[Traverser]

Blessings to you RaKaR and to All,

Originally Posted by RaKaR

Hello again, Traverser,

I believe, i answered your question by tackling it from 'its roots': abundance being the key'.
The point is, abundance demands sustainability and sustainablity passes through a responsible attitude towards ourselves, our number and legitimate needs and the rest of Nature, Mother Earth.
How would you otherwise achieve that abundance?

I firmly believe that we could better Manage and Distribute, the resourses of our planet. Right now, as we speak, this planet is being run by greed. That is true, I hope you'd agree..?

Now that said, the power of change lies within us, All Government's and All People's of the World. We, particularly First World Countries are Consumer driven, there is too much waste, too much over indulgence, without a care or thought for others. This has to change if we want to see a shift in our current paradigm.

Here is a link to an article from BBC NEWS; The Waste & Resources Action Programme estimate that householders in the UK waste £10.2bn each year (Approx $15.0bn). This is the UK only, now take that Globally, and you get the picture. No matter your stand point on this whole issue, that would feed, give shelter and clothe a lot of people...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7389351.stm

Originally Posted by RaKaR

Our houses, recreation and sport spaces, factories... are taking much of the room.
The air and water are being heavily polluted.
Species of both the fauna and flora are being extincted, because their natural habitats are being invaded - think of honey bees, for instance.
How much cultivable land is still left?
Our food comes from the countryside - while most of us are packed in cities.

The very point you make Our homes, recreational spaces and factories taking up to much room is nonsensical. Every Human Being on the face of the Earth could live in any state in the US, this is a Fact!

The very issue of polution has to be addressed and I for one don't think that Renewable Energy is being fully utilised, no where near it. So Wind Power, Tidal, Geothermal and Solar Energy and many others need heavier investment, but that wouldn't suit the Plutocricy.

As for the invasion of natural habitats, this is created by man's insatiable greed, which I'd suggest is the 'Root Cause' here... Not, over population as you'd suggest. The World population is what it is because of the way Human Beings are forced to scratch out a living.

Originally Posted by RaKaR

How would you increase the production, to reach that abundance? - by increasing the use of chemicals, which would poison the soil and water still more?

Or are you thinking of the legendary and mysterious free energy, the panacea? - where is it? Who has it? Will those having it, share its benefits with all Mankind?

And actually, even with a free energy device, we would need to follow natural laws, that is that the land needs time to naturally recover, after a certain nombre of years of exploitation.

This point was covered in my first and second answers; Better Management and Distibution of what we already have. And Heavier Investment into Renewable Energy, much more than there is now.

I've never mentioned Free Energy up until this point. So, since you brought the subject up, I believe the technology exists. But, if they can't/won't give us Renewable Energy, then Free Energy will be a long way off. I wouldn't hold my breath, put it that way...

Originally Posted by RaKaR

Abundance is also not only limited to having enough food, clean water and other commodities; it is about creating a living situation, whereby we, Humans, could also spiritually grow - and Spirituality supposes, as a necessary condition, due care for other life forms.

So, i say, let's work with what we REALLY have and be self responsible.

I Agree with All of what you say here...
Looks like we've found some middle ground RaKaR.


Namaste,

Love and Light to All,
Trav.