Good post 14 Chakras. :>)
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Originally Posted by Moxie
This is what I see. Once I had the seed planted into my mind (w/all the reading I do) that higher dimensions are not necessarily filled w/goodness/benevolence, that there are other Gods (besides ourselves) of which we might be subject to in this life........ wellllll...
that just cracks a whole new skull right?
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The key to it, to me, is that what may appear to be higher dimensions are actually more like holodecks.
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Originally Posted by Moxie
My recollection was that it was in context of our Ego, being the false free will & I find that extremely enlightening. The Ego that thinks it has Free Will has been duped. AND, have we not been conditioned alllllll out lives about this free will subject? I agree tho that our free will has been subverted by the cultivation of our self perceived separateness & uniqueness (which we are not). We are all the same substance w/the same source, but then again, so is the proverbial bad guy!
I still can't wrap my head totally around the idea that we contracted to come into this existence to run ourselves around.... that's supposed to be a joke... the big belly laugh? deep sigh...
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I'm not at one with the notion that ego is something bad or that we need to get rid of it. I see it as more of a tool that we use....but to go along with what you're saying, if Ego "thinks it has free will and is duped" what part of us
does have free will and how does it manifest?
Another thing to consider here (and going against GK's paradigm) is that everyone is
not the same. It sure
seems as if different sorts of beings have incarnated into physical Earth. Some are legitimate entities, some are what are being called
"OP's or organic portals"*...no free will there, some are outright psychopaths...perhaps an alien, parasitic life form which is able to imitate human behavior while feeding from it's interactions. And there may be more types of soul patterns involved.
For the entities anyway, they would almost have to be misguided to believe that the path of endless re-embodyment into the hell that's been overlaid on the Earth pattern is also the path to enlightenment.
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Originally Posted by 14 Chakras
The astral realm being the 4th dimension, the land of illusions and the lower levels very much where hell is found... maybe not a good idea to be getting too much of our 'truth' from the astral, nor to be aiming to "ascend" to the 4th, which would actually be a step down in vibration for most of us!
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And here you seem to support my contention that most, if not all the channeled beings are being accessed from some level of the astral plane. That in itself doesn't mean they're not benevolent, or can't be helpful, but it does mean that it's very unlikely that "8th Dimensional" beings are talking through humans....though they could be on the 8th Dimensional Holodeck, entirely caught up in their own delusions, and sincerely attempting to help, even though they are not.
Since I haven't seen this mentioned here...only "OP" in reference to "original poster"...
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*From Montalk.net:
The organic portals concept was derived out of necessity to fit a consistent pattern of anomalous data gathered through experience. Experience shows that there is a difference between infant souls and “embryonic” souls, the latter being spiritually deaf, dumb, and blind because they have not yet been “born” as individuals.
Infant souls may be immature, slow to learn, maybe taking cruder classes in the school of hard knocks, but they still evolve over a lifetime, still question things every now and then, and still show a glimmer of something sentient behind the eyes.
Embryonic souls – the organic portals – adapt rather than evolve. The difference is subtle but important. They lack the faculties for introspection, empathy, and have no use for those life lessons that would otherwise be of soul-deep significance. Thus they go through life like broken records recycling whatever meme groove their needle is stuck on. Their eyes have a peculiar emptiness, as though merely ornamental rather than functional windows to the soul.
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