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Originally Posted by Myplanet2
perhaps we need to narrow the definition of minion. It implies being a tool. Being used. But also forwarding the "Overlings" agenda.
I think my definition would include the idea, at least in the context of this conversation, of being a willing minion, in exchange for some self serving purpose. It could be they are being controlled through some threat or coersion, via blackmail, or the fact that they can be screwed with and made miserable if they don't play along. Or it can be for monetary or other gains, like congressmen selling out those they represent because of the promise of a lot of money, or a cushy job in PTBville after their term is up.
I think an unknowing minion would be more of a dupe, or patsy, or fall guy, etc.
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Interesting. I completely get what you are saying, but disagree that it is that black and white. Is a Manchurian candidate a minion or a victim? If you are taught from childhood that you are special, and were born to rule over others, without ever being allowed to meet or interact with those others, are you a "willing minion?" and if you have a gun pointed at your head and are asked to perform some atrocity, are you really a minion? I suppose the altruistic answer is...yes, because; "no matter what, you must do what you know is right in your heart"; but Im not sure its always that clearly defined.
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The PTB and their minions can only forgive themselves, as it's up to them to make peace with their conscience.
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totally agree...BUT...
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But I'm personally in favour of a judgement free environment as soon as we can manage it.
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...don't you think we could all
hasten the JFE by creating an environment where they would feel more at ease forgiving themselves? Maybe this is a Pollyana outlook , but it really makes sense to me. I would be more apt to admit I stole the cookie if the victim said "OK I know you stole the cookie, but let's just make a new batch and move on" ...wouldnt it be easier for everyone to get going on the New cookies?
(sorry for the LAME analogy)
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At they end of the day, they'll have done what they've done, and we'll have done what we've done and it will all just have been what it was, and we'll have a big party proclaiming how much fun it all was, and set to picking our roles in the next outing from the unity. (or decide to take a pass on the next round, if this one got a bit hairy.)
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beautiful.
