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Old 06-08-2009, 02:59 AM   #19
sun-toon´
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Default Re: Who are we , where do we come from and where are we headed?

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Originally Posted by Myplanet2 View Post
What he saw was real, but his explanations are from a 3D viewpoint, primarily.

For instance, his viewpoint and description of the various stratified "levels" of multi dimensional existence is partly accurate, and partly inaccurate. The levels are not stacked in "ladder" form, one to the next, and to the next, in sequence, etc. It's not like that at all. All those dimensions are right here, right now, and can't be any other way. We simply tune in to the frequency of which ever one we want to interact or perceive on. Much like you'd tune in a radio station.
This is a good assessment. I don't buy into the ladder model either. I think it's much more complicated....so much so that it's not possible to verbally describe the actual universal architecture. However, the radio frequency analogy is much better than the ladder metaphor. It's important for us to realize/remember that all the dimensions are right here. We're dreaming the world into whatever frequency we're tuned into, bringing the energy of both higher and lower dimensions into manifestation within the 3d realm.

Of course none of this will matter if the Earth is turning into a star and we're all out of here in the next few minutes. I'm not buying into that at all. It seems silly and relegates the act of awakening and expanding within the parameters of the human experience into a pointless endeavor...all way too easy and simple.


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Originally Posted by Moxie
What really jumped out at me (and I’m not wanting to start a debate here) is when he said that it’s Ego that thinks we have free will. I am the only other person that I know of that has been thinking this same thing for a few yrs, a pondering really. Here’s why: Considering, that I, and most of us do, Know & have a conscious connection to God/Creator/Ultimate Higher Self, whatever suits you to call it… then the only Will that is real and true is “God‘s... your god being". To think that you have Free Will separates you from God’s. Anyway, hope you get what I’m trying to say here. To be other than lined up with God’s will (your Highest GodMind) is to be separated into your own Egoic Will. That is what really struck me the most! When you are in conscious contact, in that state of Oneness, then you ARE your GodMind's Will, utterly responsible for EveryThing that has happened in your life.
Interesting theory, Moxie. I can't wrap my mind around the "not free will" experience. Clearly you must feel this way, so how would you describe it?

I gather from what GK is saying, that as god-beings ourselves, we came into a another god's universe in order to have certain kinds of experiences that are unique to this realm, or group of realms. If this is true, then that god is not me, or even mine (aside from our "oneness"). I am my own, and this is not even my universe, but one I'm visiting, and perhaps have become trapped in. It doesn't seem as though this god we're involved with restricts free will at all. Humans are doing whatever they feel like, unless they're under the control of the will of some other visitor to our common universal experience, one who's exercising his free will by controlling some other being. We can do anything...good or horrific, blow up planets and stars, whatever we want. There are lessons built into this however, as what we do to others we do to ourselves.

I don't feel like I want this particular god's mind, though maybe I'm looking for my own god-mind which is non-local, not only to material reality, but to the whole experience of existence in this universe. It seems to me that the primal, grand poo-bah creator did not create us to mirror It's mind and project ourselves from there, but instead to co-create new and unique realities, which we would then live within, so that we could bring novel experiences back to the One and there would be eternal expansion of all consciousness. Just my working theory...

Also, to really cut through the playlist mess, it appears that this link:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...6179D4FD44C134

...plays the whole lecture continuously.

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