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Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron
I don't absolutely know that reptilians exist...but they are at the top of my list of conspiracy theories! If they exist within the earth in physical form...do they astrally project to manifest in spiritual form...or do they cloak their physical bodies? Or...are there demonic entities which have nothing to do with the reptilians within the earth...who appear as reptilians and greys? Are both the human and reptilian races tormented by the same demonic entities? I don't know. Or...is the reptilian and grey phenomenon completely spiritual...and not physical in any way, shape, or form? Or have reptilians and greys been created in the deep underground military base genetics labs to provide demonic entities with physical bodies? The whole alien and ufo phenomenon seems to have both physical and spiritual components. It also seems to have both man-made and other-worldly components. I sometimes think that all of the secret government, new world order, terrorism, wars, assasinations, conspiracies, etc...are all tied into whatever the above phenomenon really is. Bill Cooper tried to figure out the 'alien presence'...but was frustrated. He saw isolated cockroaches...but he could never find the wall where the rest of the critters were! The various cover-ups and idiotic governmental actions may indicate that something very, very disturbing is going on. I would like to know the truth. On the other hand...the real truth may be too difficult for the public(of which I am one) to deal with. I don't really expect the government to blurt everything out. If I were in the government...I'd probably be trying to cover everything up too! If I were told the whole truth privately...I might totally shut-up because I might conclude that the public could never be told...and live a life of quiet desperation...as I suspect that many insiders do. However...the public should seek truth and disclosure in just about everything. When things are hidden...corruption and evil tends to multiply...and spiral out of control. Has the behind the scenes situation spiraled out of control...or have things been out of control for decades, centuries...or thousands of years?
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To my understating and experience I can assure you that reptilians do exist in physical as well as in astral plane. I have personally encountered some nasty ones in astral plane. At the beginning it always ended up in nightmare but now I can easily handle using protection. If you tend to think naughty things in astral plane then you will easily encounter them

but be aware this can have psychological as well as some physical effects. Physical reptilians here on earth are mostly Lemurian Dracos. Shapeshifting which David Icke talks abt are different thing and that pertains to illuminati who are basically half humans half reptile. In general, if you understand that the physical reality is hologram and projection of mind than it's not that hard to understand shapeshifting process. If someone's body is composed of 50/50% split between human and reptilian DNA then the soul personality of that body manifests either human or reptilian appearance according to it's mind pattern. If this body is used by reptilian soul personality then it appears as reptile and to change in human form it needs to ingest human blood, hormones, organs to boost human energy as to appear in human form. The shapeshift is instantaneous process meaning atomic restructure of the whole body and organs. Change in mind pattern -> utilize reptilian DNA -> manifest physically as reptile and vice-versa.