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Old 05-11-2009, 12:54 PM   #4
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I want to touch upon a subject that interests me, partially after reading the recent interview with Drunvalo and a few threads in the spirituality forum.

I'd like to discuss the concepts of "good and bad" and "good and evil" and whatnot and how they affect society at large.

To me, there is no such thing as good or bad. I'm not perfect and often make the mistake of judging things as either. However, again, life is not two-dimensional and therefore, there cannot be good or evil. There has to be something in the middle. A balance.
I agree there must be a balance, and the beginning is realizing I myself am not perfect and it is by grace or luck of the draw I have not had to walk in some others shoes and had to make choices they have made. It makes it much easier to not judge when I do that.

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I'm not sure how radical this is and I'm sure it will upset people who are content at labeling certain leaders as evil (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Kim Jong Il, Saddam, etc) instead of thinking about WHY they consider these folks to be evil. Why is it that we consider these labels to be good enough when they ignore the psychology behind the actions of these leaders?
I think it is the actions of these people that others thus label them "evil". I mean Saddam and his sons putting living people in wood chippers does seem a bit evil. The others are guilty of ordering millions killed to protect their power base or political system. Does that make them evil? Hmmm, I dunno, but I'm glad they are no longer in control for the most part.

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I mean, don't people want to know how and where others went wrong?
Good question. Yes, I think understanding how they went "wrong" would be helpful. I'm still glad Hitler, Stalin, and others are no longer working their plans.

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What about the death penalty? How is killing someone that killed another person a good thing? What does that accomplish?
My first response is, "Well, they won't do that again will they?" I don't think the death penalty should be easily handed out; however, I do believe there may be certain crimes that deserve it, and the one who perpetrated it has simply used up this current life card and can go on to the other side, see what happened and hopefully learn a lesson not to do it again. Ugh, I do hate the idea though of judging them.

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These are questions that I am sure can be answered in time. However, I think we are making a mistake by labeling things as good or bad and leaving them at that.
Yes, I agree. That does seem a bit simplistic and narrow minded. If we can all step out of the "JUDGMENT" role, then these terrible conflicts that lead to violence would cease to exist for the most part. I mean, the leaders we listed obviously judged others and it lead to great violence. I think judging others is a very bad thing, and causes most of the chaos we see today, and the ptb know the power of that cycle.

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George W.Bush appealed to conservatives with his so called "Axis of Evil" speech but he failed to realize that his own actions were evil! Or did he?
Oh, he is just using the ol' tactic of divide and conquer. The goal was taking over the oil, enriching the oil cartel, and of course another glorious war to keep the people distracted, fearful, and unable to think. I do think there are those who have faulty DNA and maybe they need to move on, learn to love, remap their DNA etc and come back with a new outlook on mankind, souls, unity, love, and living in harmony not living for power over the "eaters".

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I don't know where I'm going with this post but again, we need to move beyond simply labeling things. As Drunvalo said (actually, my interpretation), we need to see things for what they really are and we need to seek out balance. We all have "good" and "evil" inside of us. It is simply a matter of balance in the universe.
Excellent post, and yes, we need to move beyond this limited way of thinking. I pray that my DNA will align and fully embrace Unity, Love, and non-judgment

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