[orthodoxymoron]

This is strange. I like Jordan Maxwell...but I liked the debunking video(the hour long video linked at the beginning of this thread)! Seashore, I watched the one you referred to...and I don't know. Nothing surprises me. I use various sources as clues for arriving at my tentative conclusions. This includes Jordan Maxwell. I think it's very hard to seriously research the occult and secret societies without getting pulled toward it. This can be a dangerous area of research. I think a lot of what we discuss in this website can be dangerous...some of it can be extremely dangerous. To some extent...we are playing with fire. However...to be ignorant of what is really going on in our world and universe can be even more dangerous. We are in the middle of a war-zone! If someone is 'exposed' as being Masonic, Illuminati, Secret Society, Jesuit, CIA, NSA, Disinfo-Agent, etc, etc, etc...this does not mean that they should not be listened to. These people probably know more about what is really going on than anyone! I probably wouldn't want to get very close to them...or buy a used car from them...and they may be very hardened and calloused people. They have probably seen more...and been involved...in more dark activities than we can imagine. I tend to think that some of the best friends of humanity may turn out to be good bad-guys. People on the dark side...who do the right thing...when it really counts. I think I'm a good guy...but I am admittedly very naive and squeamish. I would not survive for long in these groups. I therefore will never have inside knowledge. I will always be on the outside...looking in. This is fine with me!