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Old 09-15-2008, 04:37 PM   #9
Steve_G
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Default Re: Tsarion, Rose Croix, Gnostics and New Age, all connected..?

Hi all

I've checked out some of the links listed by Doom, and watched the free video Reality Check pt1. The links where a time slot is mentioned I only listened from that point on, such as his conversation about being asked to join the bandwagon of reptilians etc.

Having watched Reality Check I find that in general he is in total agreement with researchers such as Tsarion and Icke- the way the planet is run, the ruling elite, the methods of control and so on. No major differences. In fact the only difference I see from my limited exposure to Watt is that he doesn't believe there has been any outside involvement from reptilians, greys or anyone else. Fair enough, that's his choice, and he's obviously never had any experience of them. But just because he hasn't had any experience of them doesn't mean they don't exist.


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Originally Posted by elirien View Post
well this is some decent research that I have to check out for a couple of days. Really interesting. Thank you very, very much strider and the others.

I would like to add this at least:

http://video.google.com/googleplayer...&hl=en&fs=true
I've only watched the first few minutes of this so far, but already I see flaws in the debunking argument. Specifically, the use of the full passage from Isiah 13:5

"They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, [even] the LORD, and the weapons of HIS indignation, to destroy the whole land."

Throughout the Bible the use of the word LORD is misleading. In the original Hebrew text the word is ELOHIM, which is a combination of masculine and feminine. It is also PLURAL not singular. The translation we have today is roughly ELOHIM = SINGULAR GOD = LORD. A more correct translations would be ELOHIM = PLURAL MASCULINE AND FEMININE GODS = THE GODS.

So the translation would then be "They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, [even] the GODS, and the weapons of THEIR indignation, to destroy the whole land."

So if anything this strengthens Tsarion's arguement. Remember that the standard version of the Bible is the Authorised King James version, i.e. the version that King James wanted us to read. I believe the penalties were severe if you were caught with a version he didn't want you to read.


Anyhoo, the bottom line is that all information is suspect, no matter who the source is. When people such as Tsarion and Watt get up and present information to people they do so coming from a position of their own beliefs. It was summed up really well by Robert Anton Wilson when he said "What the thinker thinks, the prover proves." Set out to prove that ET's have been here for millennia and you will, at least to your own satisfaction. Set out to prove that they haven't and you will, at least to your own satisfaction.

It's YOUR OWN EXPERIENCES that count, not what anybody else tells you. We need to stop relying solely on our masculine, logical left-brain THINKING and start opening up to our feminine, intuitive right-brain KNOWING. If we rely too much on either one we get lost- over-use of logic leads to dead materialism and over-use of intuition leads to believing anything that floats into out minds because we don't critically examine it.

Personally, since I started following my intuition I've found it far more reliable than logic. It points me in the right direction and then my logical mind comes in to sift through the information.

A balance of the two is essential.

Much respect to all here, I'll watch more of this stuff and see where it goes. Thanks for the links guys.

p.s. Not shouting when I use CAPITAL letters, it's just that for some reason I have real difficulty making italics, underlining etc work on these forums. I must be doing something wrong but I haven't a clue what that might be.
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