[NorthernSanctuary]

but until you try this on a small scale your not going to be able to discern if Zeitgest can even keep their promise for this type of society....

I've spent most of my life working in an R & D environment, so I recognise that the present stage that Zeitgest ( and Jacques Fresco) is at is really not much more than a conceptual or visionary stage. Yes, it's going to take a lot more effort and work to evolve the vision to a reality, but we need to be grateful for the vision and I don't see that their role (unless they want to do it) is necessarily more than that. Their effort is more towards making people aware of their ideas, selling/ promoting it to the public; from experience I know that people that are good at conceptualizing are not necessarily good at implementing,..etc.

Other people in a grass roots movement will have to pick up where they leave off and try to implement this on a prototype level. This part, to transform a society in a evolutionary way, is a huge challenge. No single person can promise to make this happen; considering that the establish powers do not want to lose power or control, it can only happen if there is enough critical mass for people working together to make it happen. The whole process requires a lot of work, making mistakes, corrections along the way. We are talking about building a new society, a new way of thinking, so if we can do this in a generation of two, I would consider that quick.