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Originally Posted by Czymra

I think that if we transition from syphoning to manifestation, as they both are two sides of the same coin, then we really should be looking into this issue.

Czymra, I think you're right on it with this two sides of the same coin idea. We're always manifesting something, but not usually anything novel. Instead, the "consciousness farmers" have seeded us with the memes they want us to tend for them, for later harvest. The other side of the coin is that we become of aware of these machinations and grow what we want...to the point of intentionally co-creating reality that's unpalatable for them.

Originally Posted by Czymra

I full heartedly agree with sun-toon' here. I may be able to attract myself a brand new sports car if I find the right paths of that manifestation, or rather, if I am focused enough then that car will eventually find it's way to me. It's always been that way for me. However, I think that system of manifestation is often another dose of 'soma' as most people will manifest money or whatever it is they crave for.

The factor which law of attaction devotees rarely seem to address, of if they do they deny it, is that often times that brand new sports car was pulled away from someone with lesser power (or focus). The Abraham/Hicks information emphasizes abundance, and this is probably true to an extent, but I do think we're generally manifesting reality out of the finite substance that makes up this realm, and there's not enough of the materials of every possible desire to go around. Therefore, we may create that perfect job by taking it away from someone who needed it more. [Or we can use up the Earth's resources in a couple hundred years by making it into junk and then throwing it away.]
This can lead to paralyzing thinking, until we become like the monks who worry continuously about stepping on a bug, but to be balanced we only need to remember that it's essential to manifest mindfully.

Originally Posted by Czymra

I do believe that if we are entities of one thing, yet fragments as sun-toon' says, then it makes sense that there is (in a 3d interpretation) a load of (light) tentacles protruding from a common body. The ones who understand to move closer to the original body would then of course have more 'leverage'.
And as there is no thinker behind the thoughts, how is it we attract them to our consciousness?

I like the way your mind works... and especially because it seems different from mine. I think the "light tentacles" image is cool, and yes...the original body, or "First Source" would be where we draw from. Or, we can step down a level and open a stronger connection to the light body of Earth, the being who seems in most peril at this time. This is another way to starve the beasts...overwrite the matrix programming by co-creating in a fully loving relationship -- where the will of humanity is in union with Earth and it's already designed evolutionary framework. There's no way that program includes having it decimated by human tools of parasitic entities.

I've always thought this was the main issue, but now I'm wondering if it's possible that it's secondary to the loss of our Selves to the "brahman's" appetite.

Originally Posted by RedeZra

Man can care for family but a Saint can care for life
Does it matter if the hands are from a sovereign or from a slave

Some are doing work beyond the scopes of ordinary men

RedZra, "sovereignty" as I'm using it, isn't affected by material world status, such of freedom or slavery. It's a component of our very being, and can't be taken away by other men, or even gods...though it can be given away through free will.