[sun-toon´]

Windows auto updated and restarted the computer while writing my post and when it rebooted it left only fragments posted. I've deleted it all and will return to Sun-Toon's post later.

Once again I find support for my hypothesis that the true nature of evil has been coded into Windows. I hope you'll eventually repost milk and honey...I apologize if I reacted strongly to your post, but you pushed my buttons when I couldn't find a way of reading it that didn't seem condescending.

Originally Posted by Czymra

I think we're all agreeing on this one, it's just semantics.... dude the terms for all this are all over the place. To one the 'spirit' is the 'source' and to the other 'spirit' is just hocus pocus, is emotion a part of the illusion or is it divine?

I don't really think we're all agreeing on this, though it appears that at least you and I are.

Originally Posted by Czymra

I agree with this, as well. I think Baxter is onto something but she has a growl in her writing.

I hear the growl, but not constriction. All this peace, light and love stuff we're constantly exposed to in the name of higher consciousness tends to cloud the concept that we just might need to be warriors...perhaps of a different sort than has been in the mix before, but warriors nonetheless. If you look further into her writing the issue of fear is addressed, as well as a lot on the law of attraction, and how she believes we can manifest reality through personal empowerment.

Dakini, I don't think it's her fear you're seeing, but more likely your own. Please don't take me wrong, I see you as owning a very evolved consciousness, but I've been outside of the traditional spiritual paradigms for some time, and I do understand where fear would come from. I think it should be there. I've experienced it every time I expand, and almost every time I've been threatened with expansion. I've experienced it over this very issue, and at more than one level. Bronte hasn't brought that out of me, since I was mostly in her camp already, but it's built into the process, and the bursting of our bubbles of awareness would be much more dangerous without it. The idea that we should be beyond fear is BS. It's a tool for exploration and growth and a necessary one.

From Chapter 10 of Bronte Baxter's blog:

If consciousness creates the outer reality, then consciousness is king. Thought is king. We can think and create unconsciously and get more of the same old thing. Or, we can think fresh thoughts, dream bold dreams, and talk ourselves into a finer state of existence. Whether we live on purpose or on autopilot, we are creating and/or allowing everything that appears in our path. Once we know this – our power to choose, our power of permission – we move from passive victims to masters of living.

Karma is a lie that keeps us enslaved to the past. Our future is not determined by what we did but by what we presently choose to think and experience. Karma only exists in the mind, in the ancient attitudes that keep us enslaved to tired-out negative patterns. Karma dissolves when we change our thinking, first consciously, then subconsciously.

When conscious and subconscious agree, and take their direction from the harmonious Infinite within, life opens out into beauty and miracles. This is the new consciousness humanity is moving into. When we arrive there, we’ll transform the world into paradise.

Her paradigm is about freedom and personal sovereignty...a different connection to the divine than the Oneness doctrines of Eastern mysticism or new age hyperbole. It's a warrior's path, and I have to say I like it.
I'm not totally on the same page with everything she has say. There are intuitions which she accepts that I never would unless I had them myself. Avoiding assumptions is always good policy IMO. Overall however, this seems as expansive as Wingmakers, actually quite similar, though from a completely different angle and with less drama.

Originally Posted by Czymra

I may not be as persistent as sun-toon' when it comes to the rejection of all old means, but I must admit that after long periods of introspection, every time I return to this attitude.
There's just too much BS out there.

I think it's safe to start with the premise that something is very, very wrong here on planet earth and with the direction of the evolution of consciousness of its principle freewill species. The "old means" was fine back before we were on the brink of global annihilation. There was plenty of time to sit in caves or monasteries and contemplate the nature of Being. I'm sure it seemed to those mystics that there was time for everything...another thousand lifetimes perhaps, and who cared if they were being siphoned, if it was the Way.

It's clear that this is no longer the case. We're on the cusp of something profound, and at the least this is a gigantic opportunity for the discovery of the true nature of our selves. The idea that such a discovery might include the knowledge that there is a matrix here on the physical plane (indisputable at this point), and that it's an extension of an astral plane matrix, which is an iteration of what the mystics believed was the whole of existence, and that the Whole is an iteration of...the Real Universe...
Is this really such a stretch?
(OK it is, give it time to integrate...I have a feeling that there's much more stretching to come.)