We understand each other it seems. Wonderful, so I'll just go on about the differences that I think will shed more light on what really can be done. I'm as unsure about those parts as anyone.
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That takes us into other realms again. I'm sure there are plenty of people in TPTB to whom that argument applies, but I'm equally sure that there are others who know exactly what they are doing, who are totally comfortable with it and will keep doing it simply because they can. They do so because at the moment they are the biggest baddest bully in the playground and there's no-one capable of stopping them, therefore (at least as they see it) they have nothing to gain and everything to lose by changing.
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The way you describe it makes a lot of sense, as there is no need to come up with the concept of the utter evil. It sounds like they are as human (?) as we are but stand furthest away on the carpet we want to pull from under their feet. This means they are no different, but they stand on the farthest edge and hardly anymore on the basis that I'm getting at.
However, they do still stand on it... and I have the feeling that if we can 'cash in' most of the 'lukewarms' they will stand in such obvious isolation that they'll have little options left.
Sure, this is a question of killing the root of evil or it's symptoms, and I might have the wrong end here by turning all of the people over that are more followers than leaders. I find it hard to believe that this is really a numbers game, so it shouldn't matter how many people are where, but if the weapons on the street are held by those lukewarms, I'd rather they'd see me as their brother.
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I'm not totally sure I understand what you're driving at here. Are you talking about recognising that the things others do that p**s you off are reflections of what you don't like about yourself, as opposed to taking personal responsibility for their actions? I won't say any more until I know what you're getting at.
This has been a really thought provoking and worthwhile thread, thanks to all involved and lets keep it going. 
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I think I mispelled something there. I meant to say "It's hard.. but possible".
Nevertheless, what I'm getting is partially what you say. I think there is a fine line, yet again, between a reflection and a cause & effect chain. They may be the same at times, but I think that the idea of 'disliking others for your own weaknesses' applies most of the times, then there is a 'focusing too much on the insufficiencies of others', and by focusing actually creating them, and last but not least, there is a cause & effect chain of an impulse that you send out and are unaware of it's real implications, which then triggers a 'bad reaction' in someone else.
All of these things however, are a way of realising that most of what we do is blaming things on outside sources, while in truth we are the source ourselves.
It's incredibly hard as I notice just now again, that in fact, the whole game of reality is more about the innate attitude we take, no matter what we try to project outwards and how many of the theoretical boxes we ticked to make a thing work out. Along those lines, the desire of 'wanting to be surprised' (by reality) is more of a being surprised at what's already there within oneself. I think Cinderella is probably the most evil story that undermines all manifestation in a positive manner, because it creates an attitude of 'wanting to be surprised... again!' something that brings back those childish memories of the first encounter. So I observed within myself that I'm trying to forget, in order to be surprised, again... but as I'm not genuinely surprised the second time, I'm actually disappointed, of course I don't want to admit that and keep going on the same strategy. What else to do after all? And time after time, the actual desire rots into an affliction that turns more into a kink of cynical self-affirmation. "Yes, the world does indeed suck."
How does this differ from recognising an actual problem outside of yourself? Well,this is the hard part really. If you go to a restaurant where the food is bad, you can either seek your failing in actually going there instead of boycotting it, you can seek your failure in all the things that you did that allowed this kind of attitude to creep up in your community, you can simply blame it on your childhood and abuse pattern, you can probably draw on so many spots that in fact, it's more easy than not to fall into the trap of self-blame/hate.
I think yet again it's a matter of balance of evaluating one's self, transmuting one's own attitude as much as we can from trying to fake ourselves into believing into actually believing.
Furthermore, it's probably about going out and making it clear (to the world) that we all live in a mutual relationship. Maybe the problem is that we seek to isolate the source of evil. Now Kymatica takes the next step and says we're all one, so what's wrong within you is wrong within me.
I'm sorry.
Please forgive me.
I love you.
Thank you.
And supposedly the magic is done... but I suppose that if you think of mutual responsibility, the presence of evil within all individuals, then one has to also account for the presence of good within all individuals. Thus, blaming one's self or blaming another is always a matter of seeking a scapegoat, be it inside or outside. Lastly, it's a focus on the 'bad influences'.
The trick is probably to simply move beyond attaching that scapegoat to a single entity, me or you, it's all the same isn't it? Yes, it gets obscure again because we're talking about a system so interrelated that cause & effect submerge into 'unrecognisability' again and it seems to not matter who did what and why, and if it's good or not, and that would yet again create an organism that can't tell the healthy cells from the ill ones.
Okay, I went way out of the loop here, and I'm getting stuck myself. But have a think about this diatribe, maybe I'm on to something.