[Czymra]

Originally Posted by sun-toon´

I'm jumping into this a little late (having just noted this turn in the conversation) but I find the subject to be fascinating.

I'd be interested in any links that might shed light on the existence and use of machinery that siphons and stores spiritual/life or sexual energy. I have no doubt that this was a part of the Atlantean misuses of power.

I've read about the orgone accumulator, but I'm not clear on how it works. It seems that a principal component of its process would be intent.

Get the book "Psychic Sexuality" by Ingo Swann. The most in depth explanation of all things sexual and astral. Admittedly the first half of the book goes on about establishing context and definitions and only the last part is really interesting but it is a very interesting exploration also on how the non-visible part of existence has been 'bullied' out of acceptance.

I haven't finished it yet but found some things very revealing. It's not entirely conclusive but hey.... what is?

Torrents exist, might be easier then hoping to find a real copy.

I'm also aware of the addiction process through neuropeptides, and of the fact that BDSM is being used, mostly subconsciously, as a healing experience between persons who have histories of being either controllers or slaves.

The neuropeptides are attached to any addiction, not only sexual or to abuse, but even to depression or paranoia. It's hard to understand that a person can be addicted to what makes them feel bad, and that it requires reprogramming through intent to change that pattern.

But, to address the subject of syphoning...It seems that this is most often done with the permission of the donor, which is usually unconsciously given (as would be the case with a concert or occult/religious ritual), though I'm seeing as I write this that there would be ways to take it with force. It seems that whatever we see in the food chain of the organic world is reflected energetically.

Syphoning is also being done by the manipulation and control of people's frequencies through television, media and music, and especially through the shaping of our emotional output by focusing on tragedies. It does feel "good" to feel grief. It's an outlet for the trauma we've been carrying for all our lifetimes. When a catastrophic event like 911, or even a singular death, like that of Diana occurs, that output must be enormous.

I'm glad you're bringing in the emotional aspect. I haven't really considered that enough yet. I've had another thread 'On Emotion' that kind of died a slow death and digressed... there I referred to our addiction to emotions and how it is used to fuel us in doing the 'wrong things', the short time satisfaction... find the post for more detail. The search is with you and I can't be bothered to cut of the stream of writing.

The emotional side is what I have been missing from the rituals as 777 illustrates them. Now however, I can see why those rituals release an energy within the masses through those emotions, to me this seems much more important than the fact that symbols are being used. It's still beyond me how those symbols could channel the energy (or whatever it is that steers this process) but now things are slowly falling into place, especially when you mention Princess Diana etc. The focus so far was always on the ritual, the symbolism, not the emotional energy that is focused at the event.

Maybe I didn't see the wood for the trees.
Thank you.

Czymra, I would say that "sleepers" are certainly present in this forum as well as dark sorcerers, psy-ops manipulators and anyone else who might have an interest the energy flow that's going on here.

Also I think "spirituality advanced" has everything to do with how one treats other people, and much less to do with the type of metaphysical information that we tend to associate with gurus. This is exactly what I was talking about in the "interview with Astralwalker" thread when I joked about writing a book.

I've gone on in what may be somewhat of a tangent to this discussion in the Hacking the Genetic Mind thread.

I am sure there are but let me roam with my naivety just a little longer... there's only one of us here after all.
I agree that the conduct with other people is probably the main signifier of spiritual development, but sadly the 'spiritual skills' (for the lack of a better term, maybe "Siddhis" does it) don't seem to be handed out on a basis of brownie points.