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Originally Posted by oedilroed

Syphoning (sexual) energy, storing that, and re - using or deploying that energy, is old knowledge.
That dates way back to Atlantis, and is of extraterestial (reptillian) origin.
Syphoning off energy is the basis of BDSM - although the great majority who practische this are unaware of this.
There exist machines to syphon off energy from individuals.
Wilhelm Reich was aware of this, and did develop his Orgone accumulator, and while his accumulator was intended to capture cosmic orgone, it could also be charged with one´s own (sexual) energy.
While this kind of knowledge is highly obscure here in the west, In the easteren countries ( India) there is a strong underground tradition in this - also today.

I have reasons to believe, that many who are adicted to BDSM activities in this life, have a history of past lives where they where energy slaves: forced to having their sexual energy syphoned off. ( or where masters who did "milk" the slaves)
Quit a lot of evil has been done in the past.
But possibly now is also the time to face this and integrate it.

I'm jumping into this a little late (having just noted this turn in the conversation) but I find the subject to be fascinating.

I'd be interested in any links that might shed light on the existence and use of machinery that siphons and stores spiritual/life or sexual energy. I have no doubt that this was a part of the Atlantean misuses of power.

I've read about the orgone accumulator, but I'm not clear on how it works. It seems that a principal component of its process would be intent.

Originally Posted by oedilroed

Yes, "addiction to abuse" does exist, and as any adiction has to do with neuroptides produced by the brain.

certain sensations (= the abuse ) are sought, because then the brain does produce the neuroptides, the sensation being only the trigger that does release the neuroptides.

Also, there is a light side to syphoning: it is a wonderful way to share in each energies: An awakened hart will dispel all dark shadows of guilt and shame

Furthermore, it is possible to take in cosmic energy while you are being syphoned, meaning you get energised while being syphoned off.

A path of experience exist to "walk through" this isue - to get released of any hold it may have on you.
BDSM can also be used as a healing experience: creating a safe environment to confront and live through parts of our shadowside: confronting the dark, without being its victim.

I'm also aware of the addiction process through neuropeptides, and of the fact that BDSM is being used, mostly subconsciously, as a healing experience between persons who have histories of being either controllers or slaves.

The neuropeptides are attached to any addiction, not only sexual or to abuse, but even to depression or paranoia. It's hard to understand that a person can be addicted to what makes them feel bad, and that it requires reprogramming through intent to change that pattern.

But, to address the subject of syphoning...It seems that this is most often done with the permission of the donor, which is usually unconsciously given (as would be the case with a concert or occult/religious ritual), though I'm seeing as I write this that there would be ways to take it with force. It seems that whatever we see in the food chain of the organic world is reflected energetically.

Syphoning is also being done by the manipulation and control of people's frequencies through television, media and music, and especially through the shaping of our emotional output by focusing on tragedies. It does feel "good" to feel grief. It's an outlet for the trauma we've been carrying for all our lifetimes. When a catastrophic event like 911, or even a singular death, like that of Diana occurs, that output must be enormous.

Originally Posted by Czymra

As for the 'sleepers' and 'wakers', I would strongly hope that none of this forum are either... but hey, if I learned something recently then it is that 'spiritually advanced' has nothing to do with how one treats other people, or at least some of them 'gurus' don't seem to have that part of it figured. Sad.

Czymra, I would say that "sleepers" are certainly present in this forum as well as dark sorcerers, psy-ops manipulators and anyone else who might have an interest the energy flow that's going on here.

Also I think "spirituality advanced" has everything to do with how one treats other people, and much less to do with the type of metaphysical information that we tend to associate with gurus. This is exactly what I was talking about in the "interview with Astralwalker" thread when I joked about writing a book.

I've gone on in what may be somewhat of a tangent to this discussion in the Hacking the Genetic Mind thread.