[Czymra]

Asteram, I'm not sure what to answer.
It saddens me that all that happened after I linked the two threads was aggression. It seems like the physical and spiritual people on this board won't unite, curiously for the reasons I've been investigating myself for a while.

I am now very aware of the 'all will be fine' attitude and won't let it pass just like that. I am also aware not to break the good spirit through this intellectual and emotional doubt. It's simply a process that will have to become natural.

All is possible, nothing is certain. Don't believe what you see.

As for taking physical action as regarded on this thread, I am not sure I'm convinced this is the right application. The idea is good but the concept isn't fully baked.
For once, I don't think that Zeitgeist is a very good representation of our situation. As mentioned before, it does draw too much negative focus and might have all kinds of other things 'the wrong way around'.

Be that as it may, I both like and dislike the impersonal concept.
One has to distinguish between the impact one does from person to person and a 'marketing campaign' for lack of a better word.

Regarding the campaign, I think Asteram got the right end of the spectrum.

As for one to one contact, I don't understand why so many people struggle with the concept.
As said before, be the change, the topics will naturally come up, it will show in one's actions and not in words.

Eventually, I hope that some people here might at least consider what's happening over at Nexus, or observe, because even though I can't stand behind all that is going on, it is a movement that promises to be large and is filled with loads of positive people.

In fact, I find it strange that all the critical people hang out here, while all the positives are on the other thread, we should be together to maximise our efforts and keep the intention clean.

However, I tried and will keep trying, but this shall conclude my involvement here.