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Antaletriangle 10-17-2008 06:57 PM

No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
http://www.computerworld.com.au/inde...d%3b1399635276
“Once the public has allowed the system to be established, it is much easier to block other material,” Clapperton said.

According to preliminary trials, the best Internet content filters would incorrectly block about 10,000 Web pages from one million.


Australians will be unable to opt-out of the government's pending Internet content filtering scheme, and will instead be placed on a watered-down blacklist, experts say.

Under the government's $125.8 million Plan for Cyber-Safety, users can switch between two blacklists which block content inappropriate for children, and a separate list which blocks illegal material.

cont. on link above.

deb003 10-17-2008 07:43 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Thanks for the link.

Cyber-Censorship. Insane.

Tez 10-18-2008 04:34 AM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Thankyou for the link, more controls placed on the citizens of this country, i am capable of of deciding for myself the content on reading and watching what i want. This government is now just going too far, "trying to protect us for our own good and from ourselves" - there will be many votes lost by this government in the next elections if we make it to them - that is for both state and federal.
My computer has no other access other than myself, and it is up to me what i wish to find on the internet............

The television stations air more inappropriate content, look at all the adverts they allow for sexually explicit material via SMS, porn on your mobile, explicit ads for Viagra which i became sick of watching ad after ad and no real content, so i don't watch TV anymore as the good content that used to be there is gone - so much for control in that area

:wall: :smoke: :cup:


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Orion11 10-18-2008 05:17 AM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
they can only go so far before they fall of the ledge.

and the edge is approaching quickly.

Magii 10-18-2008 05:26 AM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Hi - I'll prob be the only one here .. who will say

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA

- why do i say this ?

Cuz ur average Joe -- doesnt know much about online security --

Added a filter will help them out !

Its like .. adding another lock to your door!


----
Now .. for all who dont like more security --

Do you leave ur house door unlocked?

Orion11 10-18-2008 05:29 AM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
nono magii, that is not what is like.

Magii 10-18-2008 05:36 AM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion11 (Post 54987)
nono magii, that is not what is like.

Hey - off this one article .. I dont have all the specifics .. so I dunno what to tell ya ..


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But on a really serious note .. There is MASSIVE amounts of Clueless internet users ---

So many of their computers get turned into drones .. or bots .. and they dont have a clue!

why not protect these people?

(this maybe have nothing to do with the above article .. i duno ? im just saying )

Orion11 10-18-2008 05:41 AM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
it is not about preticting them
it is about censoring what information ppl can gether from the web.

censorship..
it is not a good thing.

Just like them, invading Iraq was for our own protection right?

Bless

2infinityandbeyond 10-18-2008 01:38 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Magii (Post 54993)
Hey - off this one article .. I dont have all the specifics .. so I dunno what to tell ya ..


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But on a really serious note .. There is MASSIVE amounts of Clueless internet users ---

So many of their computers get turned into drones .. or bots .. and they dont have a clue!

why not protect these people?

(this maybe have nothing to do with the above article .. i duno ? im just saying )



Protect these people This has to be the most uninteligent statement ive ever heard on this site so far, your very being here should signify that you have some awareness of what "protection" and "safety" is doing to the people.

If YOU want better internet security, you get it for yourself

Before you know it, you wont be able to pee crooked without the cops coming down on you.

You wont be able to empower yourself with information on the internet, just be aware that a hell of a lot more things will be made "illegal" after this is implemented.

Your supporting the very system we want dismantled, shame on you.

[MOD edit]
**********Please, do tone down a bit .It would be highly appreciated.********
Jenny

scanner 10-18-2008 01:47 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
:welcomeani: Hi thanx 4 the link you do some sound investigating keep them coming :thumb_yello:

Orion11 10-18-2008 03:48 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
2infinity,
perhaps magii didnt understand the meaning of this. .. and misinterpreted it,

thats how it seems to me anyway, honest mistake i feel.

relax a bit dude. its not like he was rude and trying to make ppl feel like poo.

no shame on anyone, no one deserves shame in this post.

some other posts, that is another question... lol

Breathe mang.
Bless

2infinityandbeyond 10-18-2008 05:10 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion11 (Post 55240)
2infinity,
perhaps magii didnt understand the meaning of this. .. and misinterpreted it,

thats how it seems to me anyway, honest mistake i feel.

relax a bit dude. its not like he was rude and trying to make ppl feel like poo.

no shame on anyone, no one deserves shame in this post.

some other posts, that is another question... lol

Breathe mang.
Bless

Maybe my reaction was over the top, but it just annoys me to see people willingly accepting the shackles that are slowly being fastened around their ankles.

Orion11 10-18-2008 05:11 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
i understand.

Magii 10-18-2008 09:27 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond (Post 55317)
Maybe my reaction was over the top, but it just annoys me to see people willingly accepting the shackles that are slowly being fastened around their ankles.

Shackles?

If protecting people is 'Willingly Accepting Shackles' then I would suggest you recheck your logic ... :sweatdrop:

mysticphoebos 10-18-2008 10:46 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Typical, Australians need protection from the government make no mistake this country is already on the NWO path and it has to be turned around real quick, people are waking up not as fast as some would like though.

Orion11 10-18-2008 10:51 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Quote:

Magii~ Shackles?

If protecting people is 'Willingly Accepting Shackles' then I would suggest you recheck your logic ...
if you think censorship is protection you should check your logic to mate.

mysticphoebos 10-18-2008 11:11 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion11 (Post 55568)
if you think censorship is protection you should check your logic to mate.

I think you read me wrong matey, I wrote Aussies need protection from the government they are fascist grubs, censorship is certainly not protection it is a form of CONTROL, Australians are sick of this play of words when they say

"we are doing it for your (the public) protection" = we are doing it to control you.
"we need stronger laws for public safety" = we want more control of you.
"we are putting cameras on highways to stop driver fatigue" = we are putting in cameras on the highways to see where you are.
"we need more police for public safety" = we need more control.
"we need more speed cameras for driver safety" = we want more money.
"we need tougher laws to combat terrorism and to protect people" = we want tougher laws to control YOU...
"we need tougher gun laws for public safety" = when you finally wake up to us, we got all the guns, you got sticks and stones suckers.
It goes on and on and on.

tandiwe 10-18-2008 11:24 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Interesting that a similarly timed statement from the Home Secretary in the Uk states that the internet sites that we visit will be recorded and monitored - as well as text messages etc - all in the interests of "homeland" security!

Tez 10-18-2008 11:24 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Magii (Post 54985)
Hi - I'll prob be the only one here .. who will say

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA

- why do i say this ?

Cuz ur average Joe -- doesnt know much about online security --

Added a filter will help them out !

Its like .. adding another lock to your door!


----
Now .. for all who dont like more security --

Do you leave ur house door unlocked?


It isn't about filters or virus protection on your computer for online security Magii,

It is all about the government trying to control what you can access and what you cannot, it is simple as that.

It has nothing to do with protecting the people from spam, trojans, viruses or online threats.
It is about having our freedoms taken away, yet again.

.

2infinityandbeyond 10-18-2008 11:44 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Magii (Post 55506)
Shackles?

If protecting people is 'Willingly Accepting Shackles' then I would suggest you recheck your logic ... :sweatdrop:



Protecting people? I dont need anyones protection.

With the proper education people can protect themselves.

So are you telling me you support protective oppression over individual responsibility and Sovereignty? C'mon now, when you talk in future speak for yourself buddy. If you need a layer or two of bubble wrap around you then so be it. YOU wrap yourself up, but please do not assume that anyone else feels the same way. I for one do not appreciate anyone speaking for me or assuming that i need any protection. I'm inteligent enough to protect my computer myself, or are you assuming that every person on this planet is a total moron?

2infinityandbeyond 10-18-2008 11:46 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticphoebos (Post 55582)
I think you read me wrong matey, I wrote Aussies need protection from the government they are fascist grubs, censorship is certainly not protection it is a form of CONTROL, Australians are sick of this play of words when they say

"we are doing it for your protection" = we are doing it to control you.
"we need stronger laws for public safety" = we want more control of you.
"we are putting cameras on highways to stop driver fatigue" = we are putting in cameras on the highways to see where you are.
"we need more police for public safety" = we need more control.
"we need more speed cameras" = we want more money.
"we need tougher laws to combat terrorism" = we want tougher laws to control YOU...
"we need tougher gun laws" = when you finally wake up to us, we got all the guns, you got sticks and stones suckers.
It goes on and on and on.

I'm pretty sure his post was directed at 'Magii'

Treckie 10-18-2008 11:52 PM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
That will mean the likes of project avalon & co will be locked out under the terrorism act. Censorship has already begun, or hasn't anyone noticed how the web (not the net) has been playing up?
Server change over perhaps? :lightsabre:

Orion11 10-19-2008 12:22 AM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticphoebos (Post 55582)
I think you read me wrong matey, I wrote Aussies need protection from the government they are fascist grubs, censorship is certainly not protection it is a form of CONTROL, Australians are sick of this play of words when they say

"we are doing it for your protection" = we are doing it to control you.
"we need stronger laws for public safety" = we want more control of you.
"we are putting cameras on highways to stop driver fatigue" = we are putting in cameras on the highways to see where you are.
"we need more police for public safety" = we need more control.
"we need more speed cameras" = we want more money.
"we need tougher laws to combat terrorism" = we want tougher laws to control YOU...
"we need tougher gun laws" = when you finally wake up to us, we got all the guns, you got sticks and stones suckers.
It goes on and on and on.

I actually meant that for magii, my apologies for that. i fixed it.

i agree with you. 100%

Magii 10-19-2008 12:49 AM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion11 (Post 55568)
if you think censorship is protection you should check your logic to mate.


It depends on the censorship --

If its crazy/xterme stuff - yah 100% should be censored

Magii 10-19-2008 12:56 AM

Re: No opt-out of filtered Internet,Australia then where else?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond (Post 55597)
Protecting people? I dont need anyones protection.

With the proper education people can protect themselves.

So are you telling me you support protective oppression over individual responsibility and Sovereignty? C'mon now, when you talk in future speak for yourself buddy. If you need a layer or two of bubble wrap around you then so be it. YOU wrap yourself up, but please do not assume that anyone else feels the same way. I for one do not appreciate anyone speaking for me or assuming that i need any protection. I'm inteligent enough to protect my computer myself, or are you assuming that every person on this planet is a total moron?


When you stop thinking about yourself - maybe you can see my point of view ---

Using your logic --

NO need for Policemen - just get everyone educated on using Guns / Protecting themselvs..

No Need for a Fireman - Heck .. if u have a fire .. use water and pray

No need for any sort of service from anyone else -- Lets go back into the stone age , Hunt & farm ...


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I'm not assuming anything for EVERYONE --
Im 100% sure .. majority common folk have NO IDEA on Internet Security, Firewalls, etc ...

:thumb_yello:


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