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Céline 12-18-2009 03:01 PM

Believing is the inner strength that lies within you...
 
Perhaps this is why we all fight so hard when we feel our believes are being threatened?

Perhaps this is why a place like Avalon exists ? To help make sense of a world that has been out of focus for a very long time.

May i say, the dedication of some to clear the fog is impressive ..and appreciated.

Deciphering reality from fantasy... is a big job.

Just here, right now, in my reality, my moment, my perspective, its hard enough to distinguish fact from fiction lol...

i just want to be.....

My religious background is so mixed ..you could cal me a religious mutt... technically a catholic, with an atheist father that became a reborn christian and am married to a non practicing Jewish man, but have no religious ties whatsoever, though i am spiritualy inclined.

i could not answer questions like..."do you believe in god? do you think the ptbs run the world?"...to me ..these are "Un-Answerable Questions" ..i will exhaust myself trying to figure out truth to a UAQ....

When i stop and allow myself to ...just be......all i feel is love.. i would bet you would to....

so this is my suggestion

Just be...

beren 12-18-2009 03:56 PM

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" if you are not like this little child -you will never enter the kingdom of heaven"

A very strong words.

Shaking the foundations of many ... But answer is simple.

Love & blessings Celine :original:

Céline 12-18-2009 04:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beren (Post 203988)
" if you are not like this little child -you will never enter the kingdom of heaven"

A very strong words.

Shaking the foundations of many ... But answer is simple.

Love & blessings Celine :original:


Thank you


Simplicity is divine...

when i get the opportunity to do ikebana for my clients i am always overwhelmed by the simple beauty of empty space...

beren 12-18-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Céline (Post 203995)



Thank you


Simplicity is divine...

when i get the opportunity to do ikebana for my clients i am always overwhelmed by the simple beauty of empty space...


:original:

I have in my work place five bamboo trees (very small ones) they thrive beautifully and everyone who sees them are saying they are loving them.
I get the feeling that they like that words and they thrive even more!!!

Céline 12-18-2009 04:10 PM

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Plants most definelty thrive on our energy.

Though i must admit, my husbands thumb is greener then mine...i do much better with cut flowers.

beren 12-18-2009 05:01 PM

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:original:

I like Lillies and blood red roses.

But my favorite plant is birch tree :original:

Scarab 12-18-2009 05:09 PM

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Beleifs are fine. But if you don't constantly question them and challenge them, understanding that they're only BELIEF, you'll never be able to replace them with KNOWLEDGE.

Believing and knowing are different. The nimble mind is eager to replace belief with fact. IMO.

Céline 12-18-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarab (Post 204035)
Beleifs are fine. But if you don't constantly question them and challenge them (i must disagree here, why must we?), understanding that they're only BELIEF, you'll never be able to replace them with KNOWLEDGE.

Believing and knowing are different(agreed).

The nimble mind is eager to replace belief with fact (i agree ..belief is emotionally based and fact is intellectually based , both are important). IMO.


i am not debating the need for facts...just that perhaps to much thinking about it....leads us off path...

Jnana 12-18-2009 07:36 PM

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I think beliefs are poor substitute for really finding out what makes the universe tick. If you have no beliefs, they cannot be threatened. If you have understanding based on experience, your understanding cannot be threatened. What's wrong with admitting you don't know all the answers?

Leunamros 12-18-2009 07:40 PM

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I think believing is good as long it´s not what others said you to believe.... Cool?, here you have it, another smart phrase to ad to your dictionary of smart phrases. Due to it´s retardedness.

Céline 12-18-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Leunamros (Post 204197)
I think believing is good as long it´s not what others said you to believe.... Cool?, here you have it, another smart phrase to ad to your dictionary of smart phrases. Due to it´s retardedness.

Smart...yes...a word i would use as well...

sigh...

know that you are loved Leunamros

Leunamros 12-18-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Céline (Post 204201)


Smart...yes...a word i would use as well...

sigh...

know that you are loved Leunamros


i prefer phisical love than internet love, wich is useless. But that dont makes you a bad girl :). Thanks.

Céline 12-18-2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnana (Post 204191)
I think beliefs are poor substitute for really finding out what makes the universe tick. If you have no beliefs, they cannot be threatened. If you have understanding based on experience, your understanding cannot be threatened. What's wrong with admitting you don't know all the answers?

Hmm great points!!

first...not sure i want to know how the universe ticks...do i need to?

I completely agree with admitting we dont have all the answers...

i am humble by UAQ's (unanswerable questions)

Céline 12-18-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Leunamros (Post 204208)
i prefer phisical love than internet love, wich is useless. But that dont makes you a bad girl :). Thanks.

Long distance love is impossible?

Are you saying it is only possible to love if one knows eachother in the physical realm?

i could cite many anecdotes to "prove" the opposite...but

i have a feeling you couldnt careless...but know what?

that does not stop me from loving you

merecat 12-18-2009 08:06 PM

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Because there might not be any distance at all between us, I beleive, better to choose what to beleive than have someone choose it for you.

Frank Samuel 12-18-2009 08:12 PM

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All of answers you'll ever need are within you. Do not worry if those answers are not always forthcoming. The information field is wide open you hold the key to open the door to see that beyond death there's life , beyond suffering there's happiness is all interconnected . The time has come to lift the veil. Avalon and Project Camelot are a great place to unlock the key and begin learning about your true self. The resonator which is your heart will bring back the memories you have long ago forgotten . The ptb game is up , the world that surrounds us needs our help to do away with this madness. Love , compassion , forgiveness,
humility has brought nations and tyrants to their knees if only for a moment by people like Gandhi , Mandela , Desmond Tutu , Martin Luther King Jr. , the truth is within you to love even your enemy and do away with the illusion of power and control. For the ptb cannot control or destroy what is eternal, the human soul we all posses.

Leunamros 12-18-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Céline (Post 204221)


Long distance love is impossible?

Are you saying it is only possible to love if one knows eachother in the physical realm?

i could cite many anecdotes to "prove" the opposite...but

i have a feeling you couldnt careless...but know what?

that does not stop me from loving you


You know something?, whenever i receive a pshysical hug, or kiss, from one girl, everything you have said as somethign to consider, dissapears.

You are so innocent, to be unaware that WORDS, means NOTHING.

Céline 12-18-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Leunamros (Post 204241)
You know something?, whenever i receive a pshysical hug, or kiss, from one girl, everything you have said as somethign to consider, dissapears.

You are so innocent, to be unaware that WORDS, means NOTHING.



Whenever i embrace Richard, the love is intoxicating and can quiet my mind and fill my heart better then any words or anything could ever do...


When i watch my three grown children , laughing together i find my heart overwelmed with warmth and pride.

When i hold my grandson and listen to his laugh, i loose myself in his moment, and nothing else at that moment matters...


These are only three examples of the love i am blessed with....

i could ramble on about the various clients over the years that have touched my heart or have been touched due to my flowers...

but i wont...

i am innocent?

perhaps... but you need to know me better before have that truism..be a fact.



Leunamros 12-18-2009 08:24 PM

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lol, you unsdertand what i said, the opposite, but it was funny, lol.:newyear:


you don´t even realize, the best gift you can be aware of, is to be, even under your circumstances, to be innocent, of your own innocence, it´s fractal!. It´s letting yourself feel like a child with your own child or grandchild at the same time.... physically!.

Ross H 12-18-2009 08:30 PM

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My perception of everything is based on the foundation of my belief system, which is a construct built from the information I have received and experienced in this life. My perception is subject to change at any moment and I feel when and if it does the above statement will still apply.

The only certainty I have is this: I operate from a better place when I am of love and value to all, this is the inner strenght that lies within me.

Peace

Céline 12-18-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Leunamros (Post 204257)
lol, you unsdertand what i said, the opposite, but it was funny, lol.:newyear:


you don´t even realize, the best gift you can be aware of, is to be, even under your circumstances, to be innocent, of your own innocence, it´s fractal!. It´s letting yourself feel like a child with your own child or grandchild at the same time.... physically!.

Yes thats what i said...

i am glad my perceived lack of understanding makes you laugh...

Jacqui D 12-18-2009 09:44 PM

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All the knowledge in the world all the studying to seek answers about the mysteries of life will never be valued higher than the innocence of your inner being nurturing that which you have the life force of the ultimate creator and his love for you and vice versa if we can give back that love which we receive then we have achieved it all

truth and integrity 12-20-2009 04:02 AM

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When I read C. Rodgers personality theory where he explained that psychologically healthy people have a flexible belief system I was shocked. I my country people believed that only a weak person changes his or her belief system. His insight inspired me to feel free and to challange my beliefs.However, when I started doing it, I open a pandora box with all emotions. It was hell but it helped me to free myself, seeing that beliefs comes from my ego. Now, I am an observer. I do not make any belief personal and I can laugh more. :roll1:

Best regards,


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