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yiolas 08-29-2009 09:51 AM

Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
This question has been bothering me for a while now. Those of us who are awake and aware know that human beings can create their own reality either consciously or not via their emotions and thoughts. We know that any idea or desire that reaches a critical mass within the global mass consciousness can be physically manifested.
My question is: Is the recent upcoming crop of movies and tv shows based around the destruction of the earth as we know it, purposefully being put out there to influence our hearts and minds to the extent that we will unwittingly manifest these events into reality?
Furthermore, it seems that the more violence, death and destruction reported on in the news the more there is to report on. Take for example, today’s front page on msn features a section called “Earth Gone Berserk” Videos: “Mother Nature at her angriest”, where you can click on the pictures and see videos of earthquakes, volcanoes and wildfires.
You could dismiss this theory by saying that an attempt to influence or manipulate what is on people’s minds would require the concerted effort of thousands of controllers. But if you take into consideration that in the United States the media is controlled by a monopoly of just a handful of large corporations, it makes the idea of conspiracy very feasible. Just wait until the “2012” movies start making their appearance. The images of world destruction that will be imprinted in our global human psyche will have great repercussions. Which is what the illuminati are striving for?
I can not think of a single film, tv show or news article highlighting the world in which we would like to live in. A world filled with peace and love. A world where we all live in harmony and respect for the earth and each other.

Karen 08-29-2009 10:17 AM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Yes to your first question. Yes, yes, yes, I agree with it all.

I quit watching TV and movies a long time ago after learning about the law of attraction.

There's a consciousness scale - it only takes about 9,000 people of high consciousness to change the world.

Let's do it!

day 08-29-2009 10:44 AM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yiolas (Post 164960)
This question has been bothering me for a while now. Those of us who are awake and aware know that human beings can create their own reality either consciously or not via their emotions and thoughts. We know that any idea or desire that reaches a critical mass within the global mass consciousness can be physically manifested.
My question is: Is the recent upcoming crop of movies and tv shows based around the destruction of the earth as we know it, purposefully being put out there to influence our hearts and minds to the extent that we will unwittingly manifest these events into reality?
Furthermore, it seems that the more violence, death and destruction reported on in the news the more there is to report on. Take for example, today’s front page on msn features a section called “Earth Gone Berserk” Videos: “Mother Nature at her angriest”, where you can click on the pictures and see videos of earthquakes, volcanoes and wildfires.
You could dismiss this theory by saying that an attempt to influence or manipulate what is on people’s minds would require the concerted effort of thousands of controllers. But if you take into consideration that in the United States the media is controlled by a monopoly of just a handful of large corporations, it makes the idea of conspiracy very feasible. Just wait until the “2012” movies start making their appearance. The images of world destruction that will be imprinted in our global human psyche will have great repercussions. Which is what the illuminati are striving for?
I can not think of a single film, tv show or news article highlighting the world in which we would like to live in. A world filled with peace and love. A world where we all live in harmony and respect for the earth and each other.


Thanks for this post.....it says a lot and I sense you would like to say so much more. Please do, I really enjoy your clarity and seeing beyond the obvious. Its why I started a thread....to give people another way at looking at what is happening in this world. From the point of view of native people. We all have heard prophecies of this coming time, but we also have prophecies of what can happen if unite, as Red Elk says...there is still is time the sky is not red.

The ptb thrive off of chaos, and more chaos, to make us feel out of control, and dependent on their legislature to 'fix' things albeit taking away more freedom and the right to privacy and to lead our own lives.

What you are seeing is what has been in place for so long, and we have felt that something is wrong for many years but could not put our finger on exactly what.

Once our eyes are open we see it all around us...and yet...the good things, kindness and love, people healing and overcoming difficulties get little or no attention. These are the things we can do on our own with a good perspective and action that follows.

I look forward to your next post!!

yiolas 08-29-2009 11:28 AM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
It’s comforting to know that there are other people out there who feel the same way I do and understands that the collective consciousness of humans shapes our world reality.
A product of my awakening process is that I too avoid watching the news, so that I will not be bombarded with images of death, destruction and violence. I do not want these things to be part of my reality. My elderly parents live with me and unfortunately my Mom spends post of her day watching tv. I might as well have a cnn news reporter living in the house. As soon as I walk in the door from work, I get a concise report of the new events of the day. She is otherwise a very loving and caring person and it saddens me that I cannot get her to understand that the negative thought forms she is contributing to by watching all that **** is having the potential of affecting us all.
One of the laws of manifesting states that you should put your intention into what you do want and not want you don’t want, as the universe does not understand the words not or don't.
This brings me to the suggestion that we should all try to focus more on the things that we would like to have more of in our lives. Perhaps in addition to meditating on healing the world we should also spend some time on thinking about and feeling the kind of life we would like to have. Any suggestions?

Unified Serenity 08-29-2009 12:05 PM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Hmmm, I think even the focusing on what I want is a form of focusing on what I don't have. I am trying to focus on accepting myself and my life as it is now, and being content. Not wanting and not pushing away, but being the person I ultimately see myself as NOW.

I guess am saying for me to be the change and maybe in that, others will do the same.

mudra 08-29-2009 02:31 PM

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Thank you Yiolas for your lovely post.
Finding peace within is the key to changing the world around us.
The whole perspective of the world as it is changes completely when one
brings the mind to a perfect standstill and opens one's heart.
The mind is a blindfolder that makes us see separateness and dichotomies : good and bad, beautifull and ugly..
But the heart sees only ONE.
When we look through our heart all discremination is dissolved into a non conceptual state.
You are looking at the enterety of creation and can be responsible for it.
This is why the ancient Hawaïan healing art of Ho'oponopono has such fascinating results.
Heart is love , compassion , mindfullness for all that is .
So indeed these qualities should be attended to moment after moment .
The whole world as it is is contained into our minds .
However we can move it into our heart ..our soul foundation .. who we really are.
This is where the miracles takes place.

The great way is not difficult for those who have no preferences. Make the slightest distinction, however, and heaven and earth are set infinitely apart."

Hsin Hsin Ming


Love always
mudra

Moxie 08-29-2009 02:41 PM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
If you have a spare bedroom to make into a den, you could put the tv in there for your mother. That would make for more privacy. My husband likes to turn on the t.v. first thing... and then he walks away, so I turn it back off. You might also try to see if she'll use earphones.

Hi Yiolas... our Rhode Island Reds are now 10 weeks old! The rooster tried out his juvenile crow this a.m., thrice! chuckles...

burgundia 08-29-2009 04:56 PM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity (Post 164989)
Hmmm, I think even the focusing on what I want is a form of focusing on what I don't have. .

You do not think about it as if you didn't have it...You focus on it as if it is already yours...:original:

mudra 08-29-2009 05:18 PM

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...it's not about changing the world but it's about Knowing that beauty exists .
Simply know it and synchronistically it's comes around you .
Brook posted this on the Now is Love thread .
A pure jewel of innocence and purity.
Love is real .. it's in our the world :)


Love always
mudra

judykott 08-29-2009 05:30 PM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Thank you for posting the video here on this thread incredibly powerful, beautiful and creative.

Thanks Brook for finding it!

Unified Serenity 08-29-2009 05:43 PM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 165054)
You do not think about it as if you didn't have it...You focus on it as if it is already yours...:original:

Doesn't your signature seem to go against this? ""the more you want, the less you have. The less you have, the less you want. the less you want, the more you have. the more you have, the more you want ..."55"


Watchman Nee spoke of the concept of already having. Many call this prosperity preaching. I guess it depends on what you are envisioning of having.

"health, home, joy, peace, fulfillment in service to others and fulfilling one's path"

BROOK 08-29-2009 05:48 PM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by judykott (Post 165069)
Thank you for posting the video here on this thread incredibly powerful, beautiful and creative.

Thanks Brook for finding it!

My pleasure....it knocked me out when I found it :wub2:

Humble Janitor 08-29-2009 05:50 PM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
They are forever at war with our souls and our capabiiities.

The time is critical and we must not allow negative emotions and outcomes to manifest. I do my part to wake up everyday with an emphasis on enjoying life and living it as much as possible now that I unemployed.

burgundia 08-29-2009 06:20 PM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity (Post 165074)
Doesn't your signature seem to go against this? ""the more you want, the less you have. The less you have, the less you want. the less you want, the more you have. the more you have, the more you want ..."55"


Watchman Nee spoke of the concept of already having. Many call this prosperity preaching. I guess it depends on what you are envisioning of having.

"health, home, joy, peace, fulfillment in service to others and fulfilling one's path"

You do not understand the true meaning of the signature...read it carefully and think about it...it is only when what you want concerns the material(istic) world. And it is a type of warning against uncontrollable and excessive desires....

tone3jaguar 08-29-2009 07:40 PM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
There is no doubt that they create things for us to focus on that are in tangent with their agenda. People talk about secret mind control this and that and none of it is really needed. It is not needed for them to accomplish mind control because they have already gotten people to voluntarily sit down and have their paradigms programmed by the television and then secondly by other media sources. They now start with people when they are young. Have you ever seen the programming that is on the Disney channel? Just a miniature version of what they are pumping out to the rest of us.

If you do not experience the emotions of the events as if they have already happened + you are generally in a fear consciousness then your ability to manifest large scale change is almost non-existent. It takes 1000 people focusing on a negative future to equal 1 persons power when focusing on a positive future.

no caste 08-29-2009 07:41 PM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Q. Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?

A. No, the aerosol falling, stage managing, backroom plans, industrial food, water additives, arrogance, oil wars, fake myths, gene labs, exploding human's historical structures, engineering conflicts, news media 'authority' are part of keeping us on track.

Not only the earth's axis is wobbly now. They had a chance; it's over. Time to disengage from that ship.

Keep On Truckin'

http://insurgentcountry.net/robert_c...on_truckin.jpg

Carmen 08-29-2009 11:17 PM

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A fabulous Video Brook

Love

Carmen

runtofly 08-29-2009 11:28 PM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Did anyone else see this when it happened?
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...oof-the-times/

I read a printed copy of this the day it came out. The story behind it (or the story that was fed to all of the fast-witted journal blogs) was that a couple of New York friends got together over a few drinks at a bar, and decided that they were going to print the news that they would like to see. This was right after Obama's election, and "Change" didn't loose its positive connotation yet. One of the happy drinkers had ties to the NY Times distribution, and placed this insert in to a great deal of that day's distribution.

Knowing a great deal of the creative types in New York, I could see this possibly happening out of sheer creative play. I can't vouch that there was no tampering, but it was quite a feat all the same.

I was personally dumbfounded, that everything that you would want to happen- war over, sane economy (see that headline on the left?) sustainable, organic, local, new energy sources... you name it- it was in that insert. What was strange was the sensation that this positive development had to be placed as a "prank" into our real news source, since it was only feeding us doom and gloom, and death. It was shocking not because they pulled it off, but because it felt so unachievable at the time. A sort of realization that we were so far away from what we could and should be.

~~~~

I have been wanting to start a thread about artist (musicians, playwrights, choreographers, visual artists, directors, ect) that are on the right track. I can add a musician right here: Andrew Bird. His insight will blow you away. Anyone else?

Neo 08-29-2009 11:55 PM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
I thinks its quite obvious that most new entertainment media productions have a message or a program in them. It could be looked upon as a message to the masses (desensitizing/warning) or a direct attempt to steer our thinking, depends on what you believe I guess.

Being a fan of games and movies I've always asked the question, why doesnt anyone make games or movies based on peace and love? There have been some, quite good too but the all pervading theme in most entertainment is violence or anything that evokes anger.
An instant comparrison is porn = disgust,shame (insert anything negative) vs violence = glory, victory, justified hatred.
Which one is more accepted in our society? It seems that watching people get killed is fine but watching them have sex is not.....oh yes we are a messed up species.

The programming of people's beliefs runs so deep that its going to take the absolute smashing of their fixed reality to even promt a question in their mind.

T.V has been the greatest mind control tool of all time.

mudra 08-30-2009 01:05 AM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
That world of duality—you have good,
you have its opposite or opposing side.
That holds true for everything in creation.
Why would it not? Why would it be
different? It is the same for all creation.
For everything that is in its positive state,
it has its negative state which exists with
the same freedom and abundance as its
other side. So there is no one place holier
or less holy than where you now sit.

Litle Crow

http://www.honesty.org/fry/From%20th...w%20(1993).pdf

Love always
mudra

day 08-30-2009 01:16 AM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
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Originally Posted by jross (Post 165150)
I agree fully...it makes me sick!! angry at the violent, hatred fulled world they show us on TV. The news is just F***KED!!! all they want us to view is the ****! there is no love and peace portrayed, a way for a better world.

Its mind programming to the extreme!!

' they know the power of love and goodwill, compassion, humility etc, they only want us to feel seperate, fragmented, negitive, these emotions helps to keep us attached to the matrix!!!

FARK THEM!! I'M ANGRY!! :wall::wall::wall:

However...Im am a being of love and light and am grateful I am awake!

love to you all:original:

Thanks for sharing your true real feelings...I feel your anger is really good, healthy....why wouldnt people be angry when seeing the big picture...its part of the process but what makes your anger so healthy imho.....is that you balance this with love

this to me is what it means to be pro active...being honest first with our selves how we really feel...to me its the first real steps to making or creating something worthwhile...doing something about it.

how many people are really angry and refuse to admit it? what happens then ...it comes out in other ways. Being honest first with ourselves is the truest steps to doing something worthwhile for long term changes

day 08-30-2009 01:22 AM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo (Post 165144)
I thinks its quite obvious that most new entertainment media productions have a message or a program in them. It could be looked upon as a message to the masses (desensitizing/warning) or a direct attempt to steer our thinking, depends on what you believe I guess.

Being a fan of games and movies I've always asked the question, why doesnt anyone make games or movies based on peace and love? There have been some, quite good too but the all pervading theme in most entertainment is violence or anything that evokes anger.
An instant comparrison is porn = disgust,shame (insert anything negative) vs violence = glory, victory, justified hatred.
Which one is more accepted in our society? It seems that watching people get killed is fine but watching them have sex is not.....oh yes we are a messed up species.

The programming of people's beliefs runs so deep that its going to take the absolute smashing of their fixed reality to even promt a question in their mind.

T.V has been the greatest mind control tool of all time.


this is so true, and what can we do about it? I agree with you about how it is being used to create fear. Most movies today have obscene violence in them that only promote and further depravity.

Taking your idea about movies of peace, spirit and virtue - Ive proposed the idea of using these mediums to do exactly that, internet use, movies, newspapers, et al expressly for this purpose, and then to use legislation also to protect a healthy mind and spiritual well being !!

In so doing we would be protecting the spiritual wellbeing of all life and of our earth and her waters!

day 08-30-2009 01:25 AM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 165084)
You do not understand the true meaning of the signature...read it carefully and think about it...it is only when what you want concerns the material(istic) world. And it is a type of warning against uncontrollable and excessive desires....

so true...

Karen 08-30-2009 01:39 AM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo (Post 165144)
Being a fan of games and movies I've always asked the question, why doesnt anyone make games or movies based on peace and love?

There was an article quite some ago that the games (some of them anyway) are produced by the military for the objective of turning the young people into unthinking good little cannon fodder for their next planned war.

BROOK 08-30-2009 01:47 AM

Re: Is the illuminati manipulating our creational capabilities?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen (Post 165170)
There was an article quite some ago that the games (some of them anyway) are produced by the military for the objective of turning the young people into unthinking good little cannon fodder for their next planned war.

This does not surprise me in the least...these games are so violent
and geared for that directon. And the worst part..is these kids get addicted
to these games.

Can you imagine the same kids addicted to Love...Oooo...that sounds like a song :lol3:


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