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alyscat 06-07-2009 03:46 AM

Latest Clif High Interview 6/4/09
 
http://www.oneradionetwork2.com/mp3/...cial_crash.mp3

Myplanet2 06-07-2009 01:09 PM

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Thanks for posting that, Alyscat. I thought I'd missed it because I couldn't tune in during show time. I got a server off line message. I'm looking forward to listening.

chitty 06-07-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by alyscat (Post 143245)

Thanks Much:original:

Seashore 06-07-2009 02:27 PM

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Thank you for this. I was unfamiliar with One Radio Network.

Cymatic Veilbegone 06-07-2009 02:59 PM

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sounds like his linguistics are still showing the same stuff...Summer of Hell, Death of the Dollar starting this fall into next year. He didnt get to talk about the coastal event, though, which is something I'm really interested in.

Looks like the Fed is going away though , yippie!:woot_jump:

PS: thank you very much for this, I really enjoy Cliff High. He just feels like such a good soul.

Myplanet2 06-07-2009 03:00 PM

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Wow. If you only have time to listen to a Clif High interview once, this would be the one. He does such a good job describing the process he uses and then lays out what the linguistics show as likely for the next 6 months to a year. And.....what he thinks we can try to do about it ourselves, to prevent it from actually coming to pass.

Highly recommend this interview.

Seashore 06-07-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Myplanet2 (Post 143320)
And.....what he thinks we can try to do about it ourselves, to prevent it from actually coming to pass.

I'll be zeroing in on this part!! :original:

Cymatic Veilbegone 06-07-2009 03:50 PM

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I think he said that statistically, if you can get 2-3% of a given population (in this case the world population, so roughly 60 million) to become conscious and begin to focus their intent towards a specific outcome, that it will begin to fractally expand to point where its unstoppable. 100th monkey idea.

We CAN change our future. But only when we stop giving them any energy, positive OR negative. Passive Non-Compliance will implode the system.:original:

Cymatic Veilbegone 06-07-2009 03:54 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNdlf...layer_embedded

NorthernSanctuary 06-07-2009 04:58 PM

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Wow. If you only have time to listen to a Clif High interview once, this would be the one.

Yes I agree. The information is very clear. Some of the information I find is very positive. The fall of the Federal Reserve, the PTB, an opportunity to replace it with something much better and liberating, for example.

mariska 06-07-2009 05:58 PM

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thanks alyscat im listen to it right now.cheers:original:

Seashore 06-08-2009 04:06 PM

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He said there are only about 10,000 blue bloods.... Millions of minions, but only about 10,000 blue bloods.

There are 6,500,000,000 on the planet.

10,000 vs. 6,500,000,000...

But we need help from the minions...

Myplanet2 06-08-2009 05:38 PM

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I love that term "minion". "An underling; esp. a servile or unimportant one".

I think all the PTB minions should identify themselves as such. "Hi...I'm Joe Blow, minion for Rockafouler".

Seashore 06-08-2009 05:42 PM

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I love that term "minion"...I think all the PTB minions should identify themselves as such. "Hi...I'm Joe Blow, minion for Rockafouler".
Do the minions know they're minions?

Cymatic Veilbegone 06-08-2009 06:32 PM

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Yes, they even have their own lager...

http://garyclocks.com/SignJPEGS/minion.jpg

Cymatic Veilbegone 06-08-2009 06:47 PM

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lol

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/p...pictureid=6925

Karen 06-08-2009 07:18 PM

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Patrick Timpone - what a pleasure to listen to his interviewing style.

Seashore 06-08-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cymatic Veilbegone (Post 143621)

lol

Cool website:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xw-_x-xFxT...anner-700w.jpg

Seashore 06-08-2009 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Karen (Post 143626)
Patrick Timpone - what a pleasure to listen to his interviewing style.

Yeah, I love it when hosts don't interrupt their guests all the time!!

And he has a calm demeanor...

Seashore 06-09-2009 01:04 PM

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Do the minions know they're minions?
What do members think about this?

Before I retired one of my jobs was to project manage fiber optic circuits that were being installed for the Department of Defense. But it's a stretch to call that being a minion of the powers that be, don't you think?

What are some of the jobs that should be classified as functioning as minions, and do the folks involved realize what they're doing?

Do people involved in black operations, for example, know that they're minions? I would think it would be easy to simply rationalize that what they're doing is for "national security."

And also there's the problem of their livelihood. How are people to admit to themselves that their source of income is doing harm?

Your thoughts?

Cymatic Veilbegone 06-09-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by seashore (Post 143793)
What do members think about this?

Before I retired one of my jobs was to project manage fiber optic circuits that were being installed for the Department of Defense. But it's a stretch to call that being a minion of the powers that be, don't you think?

What are some of the jobs that should be classified as functioning as minions, and do the folks involved realize what they're doing?

Do people involved in black operations, for example, know that they're minions? I would think it would be easy to simply rationalize that what they're doing is for "national security."

And also there's the problem of their livelihood. How are people to admit to themselves that their source of income is doing harm?

Your thoughts?

I think its more of a gradient-shade toward degrees of minionhood myself. For instance, I did a lot of web design/game design/advertising/marketing for comapnies like Taco Bell, KFC, etc. I started to realize what I was doing...helping to ruin the health of a new generation, and lure kids into buying products for companies I didn't resonate with. I started to feel so awful about myself that I finally quit, walking away from a really cushy job. It was making me physically ill. I guess in a way, I could have been considered one of the minions, but was not embedded so deeply that I felt there was no way out. Also, many (perhaps even most) minions probably are unaware that they are helping that cause. So...

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Originally Posted by seashore (Post 143793)
Do the minions know they're minions?

I agree, I think most do not know. Apologies for goofing earlier.

Also, I think its important to mention that on David Wilcock's site, he mentions a woman (can't remember her name and the site is down right now) who supposedly was a medium ranking Illuminati for the San Diego area. She walked away from them (has since vanished) but while she was speaking about the group, she said that 90% of people within the families (so we're talking even higher than minion rank) DON'T like it and don't want to be there, but feel trapped as they are linked through family, and also threatened with death for defection.

add: THIS is precisely why I agree with the policy of ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF WRONGDOING BUT THEN FORGIVENESS toward the Illuminati, as I think that this is the only way to open the floodgates of disclosure, and get them to feel comfortable with walking away from these groups and openly talking about it.

Seashore 06-09-2009 03:26 PM

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Thank you so much for this thoughtful response!! :original:

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Originally Posted by Cymatic Veilbegone (Post 143824)
... I started to feel so awful about myself that I finally quit, walking away from a really cushy job...

I have been thinking about this and wondering whether there are things people can do to assist others who want to do what you did, or perhaps are just beginning to think about doing what you did...

I hope members can provide some input on this...

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Originally Posted by Cymatic Veilbegone (Post 143824)

...90% of people within the families (so we're talking even higher than minion rank) DON'T like it and don't want to be there, but feel trapped as they are linked through family, and also threatened with death for defection...

add: THIS is precisely why I agree with the policy of ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF WRONGDOING BUT THEN FORGIVENESS toward the Illuminati, as I think that this is the only way to open the floodgates of disclosure, and get them to feel comfortable with walking away from these groups and openly talking about it.

I have thought about this, too, and I think you make a very good point.

Thanks again for your response!!

Myplanet2 06-09-2009 04:22 PM

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perhaps we need to narrow the definition of minion. It implies being a tool. Being used. But also forwarding the "Overlings" agenda.

I think my definition would include the idea, at least in the context of this conversation, of being a willing minion, in exchange for some self serving purpose. It could be they are being controlled through some threat or coersion, via blackmail, or the fact that they can be screwed with and made miserable if they don't play along. Or it can be for monetary or other gains, like congressmen selling out those they represent because of the promise of a lot of money, or a cushy job in PTBville after their term is up.

I think an unknowing minion would be more of a dupe, or patsy, or fall guy, etc.

CV: I'm not sure about that forgiveness idea. I'm not saying they should not be forgiven. It would just harm us to hold a grudge. But I'm personally in favour of a judgement free environment as soon as we can manage it. The PTB and their minions can only forgive themselves, as it's up to them to make peace with their conscience.

At they end of the day, they'll have done what they've done, and we'll have done what we've done and it will all just have been what it was, and we'll have a big party proclaiming how much fun it all was, and set to picking our roles in the next outing from the unity. (or decide to take a pass on the next round, if this one got a bit hairy.):naughty:

Seashore 06-09-2009 04:29 PM

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...Or it can be for monetary or other gains...
These are the ones I'm hoping can be reached and reached out to by others...

Cymatic Veilbegone 06-09-2009 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Myplanet2 (Post 143847)
perhaps we need to narrow the definition of minion. It implies being a tool. Being used. But also forwarding the "Overlings" agenda.

I think my definition would include the idea, at least in the context of this conversation, of being a willing minion, in exchange for some self serving purpose. It could be they are being controlled through some threat or coersion, via blackmail, or the fact that they can be screwed with and made miserable if they don't play along. Or it can be for monetary or other gains, like congressmen selling out those they represent because of the promise of a lot of money, or a cushy job in PTBville after their term is up.

I think an unknowing minion would be more of a dupe, or patsy, or fall guy, etc.

Interesting. I completely get what you are saying, but disagree that it is that black and white. Is a Manchurian candidate a minion or a victim? If you are taught from childhood that you are special, and were born to rule over others, without ever being allowed to meet or interact with those others, are you a "willing minion?" and if you have a gun pointed at your head and are asked to perform some atrocity, are you really a minion? I suppose the altruistic answer is...yes, because; "no matter what, you must do what you know is right in your heart"; but Im not sure its always that clearly defined.

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The PTB and their minions can only forgive themselves, as it's up to them to make peace with their conscience.
totally agree...BUT...

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But I'm personally in favour of a judgement free environment as soon as we can manage it.
...don't you think we could all hasten the JFE by creating an environment where they would feel more at ease forgiving themselves? Maybe this is a Pollyana outlook , but it really makes sense to me. I would be more apt to admit I stole the cookie if the victim said "OK I know you stole the cookie, but let's just make a new batch and move on" ...wouldnt it be easier for everyone to get going on the New cookies? (sorry for the LAME analogy)

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At they end of the day, they'll have done what they've done, and we'll have done what we've done and it will all just have been what it was, and we'll have a big party proclaiming how much fun it all was, and set to picking our roles in the next outing from the unity. (or decide to take a pass on the next round, if this one got a bit hairy.):naughty:
beautiful.:original:


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