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Seashore 01-26-2009 12:19 PM

Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
I am interested in members' philosophy about this.

If you are not a believer, can you just give your rationale?

If you are a believer, can you explain what it means to love your enemy? Does it literally mean love them or does it just mean don't hate them? And can you give some examples of how you would show your feeling?

Delphi 01-26-2009 01:20 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Hi Seashore

A very timely question.

Love in the sense of recognizing our common humanity - yes.
Love in the sense that we are all incarnate souls - yes. I am a believer but emphatically not a Christian.
Love in the sense that my enemies have a lot to teach me and that I have drawn them into my life for a reason - yes.
Love in the sense of respect and not seeking to harm - yes.
Love in the senses of friendship, desire, trust, liking, affection - NO.

Seashore 01-26-2009 01:29 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphi (Post 106656)

Love in the sense that my enemies have a lot to teach me and that I have drawn them into my life for a reason - yes.

Thanks. You express yourself very well.

I am intrigued with the concept of us drawing our enemies into our lives. We actually do that? Can you expound on that?

tone3jaguar 01-26-2009 01:47 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Love and light projected towards the forces of darkness is the only way to be done with them and not continue to manifest them back into your life. People do not want to belive that when they direct negative emotions at things that they actually manifest more of it into thier life. I made this mistake over and over again for at least 5 years. My ego wanted more to win than to take a percieved weak stance on the matter. Once my ego got the hell out of the way, it was easy to see the solution.

There is not a single specific common spiritual paradigm that does not incorperate this into its teachings. There is a reason for that. The reason is that by universal law this is the way it works.

Baggywrinkle 01-26-2009 01:56 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
I love my enemies for hate is counter productive to my
own well being.

Yet I struggle with the concept of perfect pacifism. When
it comes to my family I could not stand by and pray
while they were hurt.

As the old joke says; " Sir, I would not hurt thee for the
world, but thou standist where I am about to shoot!"

You don't need to hate them to fight them. You just want
them to stop and go in peace. If they refuse then you help
them along.

Seashore 01-26-2009 02:33 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar (Post 106666)
Love and light projected towards the forces of darkness is the only way to be done with them and not continue to manifest them back into your life. People do not want to belive that when they direct negative emotions at things that they actually manifest more of it into thier life. I made this mistake over and over again for at least 5 years. My ego wanted more to win than to take a percieved weak stance on the matter. Once my ego got the hell out of the way, it was easy to see the solution.

There is not a single specific common spiritual paradigm that does not incorperate this into its teachings. There is a reason for that. The reason is that by universal law this is the way it works.

Thank you. I think I understand what you're saying...

Seashore 01-26-2009 02:42 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggywrinkle (Post 106670)
Yet I struggle with the concept of perfect pacifism. When
it comes to my family I could not stand by and pray
while they were hurt.

As the old joke says; " Sir, I would not hurt thee for the
world, but thou standist where I am about to shoot!"

Thanks.

Yeah, I think loving your enemy does not preclude self-defense!

rhythm 01-26-2009 03:14 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
True love has no enemys
The only enemy?is FEAR...
If you trully love your self
dont you also know there
is no other !
:wub2::wub2::wub2::wub2::wub2::wub2::wub2::wub2::w ub2:

Seashore 01-26-2009 03:22 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rhythm (Post 106692)
True love has no enemys

Thanks! This part is really making me think...

Dantheman62 01-26-2009 04:12 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
I have no enemies, the only real true enemies I would ever have is the ones about to inflict harm on me or someone close to me. Then would I love my enemies.... not a chance.

futureyes 01-26-2009 04:12 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
"love your enemies" ...

i do not consider my self to have enemies ...
i only feel oneness with all ...
i respect those who consider their selves as my enemy for they are my teachers and i have that much greater love for them ...
those that wish to harm me i do not engage in their energy ... i remain indifferent and neutral with them ...
i try not to allow ego to lead my way with others ...
not about "making" my self love others ...
it is about feeling it ...
no drama ...
simplicity ...
i follow my heart ...

:wub2:

Seashore 01-26-2009 04:25 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dantheman62 (Post 106710)
I have no enemies...

Hmmmm. Interesting.

Thanks!

Dantheman62 01-26-2009 04:34 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
HaHa I should say none that I know of! LOL!

Seashore 01-26-2009 04:35 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by futureyes (Post 106711)

i try not to allow ego to lead my way with others ...

This part resonates with me.

Thanks!

Kathleen 01-26-2009 07:14 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
How I love my enemy:

This is what works for me. I visualize a silver ribbon tied between my "enemy" and me... I surround us both with white light and then I imagine a very sharp pair of scissors and I cut the ribbon. Wave good bye.

Simplistic, I know, but since I've done that I have no enemies....

Seashore 01-26-2009 07:20 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 106761)
How I love my enemy:

This is what works for me. I visualize a silver ribbon tied between my "enemy" and me... I surround us both with white light and then I imagine a very sharp pair of scissors and I cut the ribbon. Wave good bye.

Simplistic, I know, but since I've done that I have no enemies....

Very original!

Thanks.

recallone 01-26-2009 07:30 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
The greeting namaste speaks volumes, I think.
The divine in me recognizes the divine in you.
There is no enemy, but rather a part of you that you don't prefer. To assist that part of you in becoming something that you do prefer, bathe it in love and detach from it/them. Bless and release.

Seashore 01-26-2009 07:38 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by recallone (Post 106768)
The greeting namaste speaks volumes, I think.
The divine in me recognizes the divine in you.
There is no enemy, but rather a part of you that you don't prefer. To assist that part of you in becoming something that you do prefer, bathe it in love and detach from it/them. Bless and release.

I think this is profound.

Thank you.

Kathleen 01-26-2009 07:39 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seashore (Post 106765)
Very original!

Thanks.


Ohhhh...I don't know about original.... It's basically the visualization of what Recallone says:


Quote:

To assist that part of you in becoming something that you do prefer, bathe it in love and detach from it/them. Bless and release.

Seashore 01-26-2009 08:21 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kathleen (Post 106772)
Ohhhh...I don't know about original.... It's basically the visualization of what Recallone says:

Your "white light" is Recallone's "love"...

Anchor 01-26-2009 09:28 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
I attempt to love my enemies.

I dont really have enemies though, just a handful of 'interesting' people that present me with endless opportunities to improve myself.

To answer the OP specifically:

> If you are not a believer, can you just give your rationale?

Dont like that word 'beleiver'. My rationale is all is one, and that every person in my life is a reflected aspect of myself. To do anything other than love them would be, on the grander scheme of things, self-destructive.

> If you are a believer, can you explain what it means to love your enemy?
> Does it literally mean love them or does it just mean don't hate them?
> And can you give some examples of how you would show your feeling?

Love in this context is not about feeling. It is more about an "unconditional" state of acceptance, nurturing and support - etc. Love and light is all we are made of.

You are the love, you are the light of the one infinite creator. Just as I am.

A..

Seashore 01-26-2009 10:21 PM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Thanks, Anchor.

brutus35 01-27-2009 12:26 AM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
This is great, I just enjoyed reading the responses, and it wreaked of enlightment and purity of thought. Can't wait to one day meet some of you guys. And I concur, the only enemy is "FEAR"..Eliminate or obliterate fear, and life really takes off, because everything that remains is love and light.
:trumpet::trumpet:

Seashore 01-27-2009 01:05 AM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
Thanks, brutus35! :original:

THE eXchanger 01-27-2009 01:13 AM

Re: Are You a Believer in "Love Your Enemies"?
 
absolutely -- send them lots of love

(if they attack me, my protection field,
sends them back three times, whatever they sent to me,
in love)

to them, love is a poison

and, yet, to us, those who are on the right road

love is, all there really is

love/susan
the eXchanger


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