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Swanny 11-30-2008 09:48 PM

Did you see that???
 
I have always seen things that aren't there out of the corner of my eye, you know when your sat watching the tele or on your pc and you think you saw something move, you think it might be a spider or something but there isn't anything there, but lately have noticed this happening a lot more.
Mentioned it to my friend Flynt the other day and he has also noticed it happening more.
Anyone else noticed this?

feardia 11-30-2008 09:52 PM

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I'm going to start a survey on drug and alcohol abuse among avalonians, we need to know. :rasta:

Antaletriangle 11-30-2008 09:53 PM

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I have that constantly whilst i write this now even!!! Sometimes it startles me lol.

feardia 11-30-2008 09:57 PM

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I get that all the time, but i just thought it was flashbacks...

Subsonik 11-30-2008 10:45 PM

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Wierd, this had just happened to me an hour ago and I had also been noticing it going on a lot more frequently when I'm alone - sort of like the devil watching you from behind your back! I wonder if it's something neurological or psychological? Or maybe we are being watched... :P

HOPEFUL 11-30-2008 10:50 PM

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burgundia 11-30-2008 11:00 PM

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Happens to me too.

Sanat 12-01-2008 12:20 AM

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It's the socalled "veil" that is getting thinner. The astral realm is "superimposed" on our realm. You can clear the room by simply invoking the Light of the Infinite Creator. Any being that is not of good intention will be gone. There are "helpers" working on us all day/night long these days. Upgrading our energy bodies etc. In the state called "sleep paralyzis" one can find oneself in between the astral realm and the "normal" realm. Here many people see many different beings as if they are in the same room (but they are in reality in another realm). Nothing to fear or worry about.

alice goes nuts.... 12-01-2008 12:33 AM

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i would go for the stress and nevrological view.......i had this a short periode many years ago after severe stress....it seemed like i sometimes saw a insect on the side of my vision field.....but it went away...i think this is normal, have heard about many others that have had this without reason....

Frank Samuel 12-01-2008 01:17 AM

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Wether you realize it or not we are multidimensional beings, your physical body is in the 3rd dimension your spiritual self is in communication with other spiritual beings in different dimensions . It can freak you out at times, accepting it as a part of who you are opens your world to an incredible amazing experience of alter realities. Children are more suceptible to this world. These entities cannot influence you unless you let them, if you are not aware of them they will often influence your unconcious mind and the realm of your emotional stability. To say that your world is alive in more ways than you can imagine is an understatement. We are magnets and attract anything and everything imaginable and not imaginable, the old saying be careful what you wish for applies very much to this world. Learning how to control this world of spirit and be at peace with it will help you to create harmony around the world of others. For me the war of the spirit is more real and dangerous than the 3rd dimensional wars on this planet, spiritual dark entities feed on hate and guess who's is feeding them. Dark entities are attracted to havoc and chaos, our biggest mistake has been rejecting and denying the existence of this world. It is said that these dark entities greatest victory is simply hiding in plain sight. In regards to this reality the statement of the blind leading the blind is applied to us humans . I guess we all need a pair of spiritual seeing glasses.:naughty::nono:

saggyash 12-01-2008 01:28 AM

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I also have had the corner of the eye syndrom as I call it. My girlfriend has also had it many times. It definately is happening more often now and I just send my love to whom or whatever it is and chuckle to myself...aha caught you.

Peer 12-01-2008 01:31 AM

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I thought only I saw them till I found out what they were:
They are Gneechees.

Little energetic beings that live at the very edge of your energy field.
If you try to focus on them they just disappear so you can see them only from the corner of your eyes.
Pretend you don't see them so you can carefully observe them.

They will not harm you.












:eyes: :mfr_lol:

brutus35 12-01-2008 01:41 AM

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Thanks for the info. "Peer"
I normally try to relate to them by turning slowly, still looking out of the corner of my eyes, and say things like "whats going on buddy", being friendly, hoping that they will make themselves a little more visible. Nothing has happened yet, but I am hoping..:trumpet:

Koyaanisqatsi 12-01-2008 01:47 AM

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i smile and enjoy the show. i understand that if i need to be contacted then i will be if not then i won't


:wink2:

Dantheman62 12-01-2008 01:54 AM

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Peripheral vision defined......Peripheral vision is a part of vision that occurs outside the very center of gaze. There is a broad set of non-central points in the field of view that is included in the notion of peripheral vision. "Far peripheral" vision exists at the edges of the field of view, "mid-peripheral" vision exists in the middle of the field of view, and "near-peripheral", sometimes referred to as "paracentral" vision, exists adjacent to the center of gaze[citation needed].

Peripheral vision is weaker in humans, compared with other animals, especially at distinguishing color and shape. This is because the density of receptor cells on the retina is greatest at the center and lowest at the edges (see visual system for an explanation of these concepts). In addition, there are two types of receptor cells, rod cells and cone cells; rod cells are unable to distinguish color and are predominant at the periphery, while cone cells are concentrated mostly in the center of the retina (the macula).

Peripheral vision is good at detecting motion (a feature of rod cells), and is relatively strong at night or in the dark, when the lack of color cues and lighting makes cone cells far less useful. This makes it useful for avoiding predators, who tend to hunt at night and may attack unexpectedly.

Peripheral vision loss may occur due to a number of ocular or neurological diseases or disorders. Glaucoma, stroke, branch retinal vein occlusion, branch retinal artery occlusion, ischemic optic neuropathy, and transient migraine are some of the more common causes, whereas retinitis pigmentosa, choroideremia, gyrate atrophy, pituitary tumors, optic disc drusen, brain tumors and aneurysms, and tilted optic discs are uncommon or rare. [1].

The distinctions between central and peripheral vision are reflected in subtle physiological and anatomical differences in the visual cortex. Different visual areas contribute to the processing of visual information coming from different parts of the visual field, and a complex of visual areas located along the banks of the interhemispheric fissure (a deep groove that separates the two brain hemispheres) has been linked to peripheral vision. It has been suggested that these areas are important for fast reactions to visual stimuli in the periphery, and monitoring body position relative to gravity [1]

Dantheman62 12-01-2008 02:19 AM

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Oh, and Swanny, it happens to me too!

Circlewerk 12-01-2008 03:01 AM

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This has been happening my entire life.
And on occasion, there are voices to accompany what is seen peripherally, as well as a heaviness of energy that makes my entire body feel as if it shifts in a wave pattern, as if i go in & out of my skin, or, I feel as if my ethereal body shrinks to the size of a needle point, or grows beyond my frame of vision....
When I first mentioned this to my family (1985), they freaked out & had all kinds of tests run on me. I was a year & 4 months sober at the time.
Every test, then & since, bore normal results.
The one difference that I experience now, is that what is normally only in my peripheral, has become center stage.
And, I don't know about you guys, but usually when I would turn to see what my peripheral had caught, it would be gone.
Not anymore.
It remains, anywhere from 3 to 10 seconds.
And they're not just dark shadowy mists anymore. They're white, gray, silver & gold.
I am now 25 years sober.

So, perhaps for some, it can be chalked up to nerve damage, or anxiety..but I personally would not label my experiences either of those.
I am at peace with all of this because these experiences don't scare me, or define me.

Peace,
CW

RubyTuesday 12-01-2008 03:09 AM

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I've noticed a very definite increase in seeing things out of the corner of my eyes. I've noticed it's easier to "catch" them if there is a hallway or doorway in my peripheral vision. Don't know why. :original:

Frank Samuel 12-01-2008 03:30 AM

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I often hesitate to speak of this but when I was younger I would stop people on the streets and speak to them about the spiritual world surrounding them.
Due to the controversial nature of the subject matter and the obvious reponsibility of connectting to the inner world of others I just became silent. For the purpose of just giving information I would say that being sensitive to your spiritual world can transform you. Unfortunately religion has not been kind to spiritual seers , I would point out that all of us are seers you just don't realize it. It is sad to see how we as adults help to shut down the spiritual eyes of our children, seeking psychologist and psychiatrist to drug our children braiwashing their minds. Is obvious how we throughout history have been brainwash into becoming disbelievers into the very nature of our being. In this matter religion and science has only help us to become blind and insensitive to our spiritual self.

flynt144 12-02-2008 07:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by feardia (Post 89119)
I'm going to start a survey on drug and alcohol abuse among avalonians, we need to know. :rasta:

:lmao:

flynt144 12-02-2008 07:34 PM

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As for problems with our eyes forget it, I've consciously used my peripheral vision for 20 years,serves me well. Get my eyes tested every year no problems, never worn glasses and Swannys eyes sight is way better than mine!:nono:

Christo888 12-02-2008 07:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HOPEFUL (Post 89142)
It sounds like one of anxiety symptoms or peripheral vision problems (nerve damage may cause this).
You may see stars or movements out of the corner of your eyes that don't exist. You may also see flashing lights in your eyes or your vision may seem almost kaleidoscope-like. Sometimes you may feel that there is a dark object or something just on the outside edge of your vision, or that your vision is narrowing.

Relax, catch up on sleep and if it continues you should see an optometrist.

Hopeful.

You sound like a paid agent of Dis-information!

Bonnie 12-02-2008 08:59 PM

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I guess this kind of coincides with what Frank initially wrote above. I have read about what is referred to as dark shadows or shadow people. As I understand, they are beings whose presence can be felt and are usually spotted out of the corner of one's eye. These beings feed off of negative thought patterns/vibrations and can encourage negative situations.

Subsonik 12-02-2008 09:52 PM

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Woahoh!! This has all gotten much heavier than I had imagined. I don't think there's any explanation for what that effect is, it could be a great many things. Peer, I see what your saying, when I look into a clear blue sky I usually see those tiny little dots of changing colour moving all around almost like dust but not affected by volumetric light. Don't know why I can only usually see them against a bright sky though. I can focus on them but they never go out of focus really - they just move too fast to follow. Anyone else seen these? They're quite entertaining if you're bored:P

IronWoman 12-02-2008 10:01 PM

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I kid you not! this is really did happen!!!!

lol.. well it's not that big of a story..

.. (my mom had asked me to grab something from down stairs).. so i'm walking.. and from the corner of my eyeball i see a black cloudy mist just floating there. Right when i noticed it.. i Fell down!!


later.. i realised it was Friday the 13th!!!!

WEird...

franciejones 12-02-2008 10:03 PM

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My stepson and I repeatedly see things in our peripheral vision.
The first time it really scared Allen. After some assurances, he is now more curious and reports each incident with true excitement...I think its happening more frequently every week.

Lady of Light 12-02-2008 11:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanny (Post 89118)
I have always seen things that aren't there out of the corner of my eye, you know when your sat watching the tele or on your pc and you think you saw something move, you think it might be a spider or something but there isn't anything there, but lately have noticed this happening a lot more.
Mentioned it to my friend Flynt the other day and he has also noticed it happening more.
Anyone else noticed this?

I have ALWAYS seen these things my whole life. It was always brushed off whenever I would tell someone, so I stopped mentioning it to people. I went for years not saying anything about it accept for when someone would mention to me that it was happening to them. When I met my boyfriend, he said he has always seen these "shadows" too. These last few years have been very comforting knowing that I am not alone and that I can share with others.

Lady of Light

Wetpicketfence 12-03-2008 12:45 AM

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dark pulsating spots with tiny white orbs floating around, when I am hungover....

Sol Invictus 12-03-2008 12:48 AM

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Hey swanny - I call these the 'jelly baby men' due to their opaque nature and yet when looked at with the pheripheal vision they look dark or black.

My cat actually chases things i see in the corner of my eye around the living room. I leave her in the room at night and I am assured a sleepless night.

Guess she must like the taste or some thing.

Lady of Light 12-03-2008 01:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wetpicketfence (Post 90162)
dark pulsating spots with tiny white orbs floating around, when I am hungover....

I get similar things when sober. I don't drink. Haven't had even a sip of alcohol for over 3 years. I've come to regard anything of this nature as being absolutely normal.

Lady of Light

371 12-03-2008 01:44 AM

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One of the first things I learned when I went on ops was about 'retina burn'. Meaning, if you look at something straight on and keep looking at it eventually you'll get retina burn and you won't be able to see clearly. It's basically eye fatigue from staring at one spot for too long.

I was taught to always keep looking around, even if you've got to look at one specific thing intently. It seems weird that if you're not looking directly at it you might miss something but in fact if there's retina burn you can be looking RIGHT AT whatever it is and still miss it. The trick is to 'see' it out of the corner of your eye.

Anyone ever notice how when you see something out of the corner of your eye almost always when you turn you're head there's nothing there? Some say this is a glimpse of entities that we can normally not sense. Could be. Is it also a physiological/psychological effect? Definitely.

It's a natural reaction to turn your head to look at whatever you saw from the corner of your eye, its a survival mechanism. But what if you DIDN'T turn your head? Would this thing stay there? Or would it go away just like if you turned your head? There is such a thing as jumping at shadows, meaning if you're expecting to see something (anticipating or fearful of it) you're more likely to think you've seen if, if only for a moment.

Also notice how people just seem to 'know' when someone is looking at them often times. Like when you're sitting in your car at a light, and you KNOW the person in the car next to you is staring at you. Basically this is (and 'retina burn') were the reasons I was strongly encouraged to develop better use of my peripheral vision. If people think you're oblivious and don't realize they're there you have the advantage. Also, if you're watching someone who's paranoid, one straight look in their direction and it's blown.

I encourage everyone to try to improve their peripheral vision. You'd be surprised how good you can get with it. There IS a limit to how much you can see but it's all about being aware, and seeing something different than what your eye is looking at. And remember, if you stare at ANYTHING long enough it will begin to look like something else- beware of illusions. But that's another topic.

Here's a fun illusion

Antaletriangle 12-03-2008 01:50 AM

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I remember that a long time ago i was informed that when you look at a bright sky and you see the odd black dust like particle in your field of vision when you try and focus on the nearest point you can i.e. your own eye these are pieces of detached retina that naturally occur as the body is constantly renewing itself cell by cell and nothing to concern yourself over as it's a natural process.Just thought i'd mention it as this was mentioned to me out of curiosity more than anything.

Sol Invictus 12-03-2008 01:51 AM

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371,
I do love it when people post factual explanations for the reason why my cat chases around the room the 'illusions and retina burn' I don't have.

I also love it because it goes to such great lengths to explain why in my bedroom at night she will sleep soundly curled up under the cupboard in her box, but in the living room she will create mary hell until it all falls silent.

She is way way more aware than any human, and if she is chasing the 'things' I glimpse, thats good enough for me to dump the 'illusions and retina burn / floaters explanation' in the 'thanks but no way am I going there' bin.

That said, if it helps you sleep at night to believe that, fair play.

371 12-03-2008 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sol Invictus (Post 90203)
371,
I do love it when people post factual explanations for the reason why my cat chases around the room the 'illusions and retina burn' I don't have.

I also love it because it goes to such great lengths to explain why in my bedroom at night she will sleep soundly curled up under the cupboard in her box, but in the living room she will create mary hell until it all falls silent.

She is way way more aware than any human, and if she is chasing the 'things' I glimpse, thats good enough for me to dump the 'illusions and retina burn / floaters explanation' in the 'thanks but no way am I going there' bin.

That said, if it helps you sleep at night to believe that, fair play.

I'm sorry if I came off the wrong way. I fully believe that such things exist. I was just talking in a general sense, as when you're specifically looking at/for something. And that can also mean psychologically, whether a belief in such things might make you more apt to have a glimpse of these things or they are just products of a fantasy prone mood.

Animals are real good indicators, or 'tripwires'- they often give the first sign something is amiss. That being said, also most animals will (seemingly) sometimes jump at shadows. And they are in tune with us- when we're agitated or expectant they respond accordingly.

BTW Sol Invictus, I'm not saying you've got a fantasy prone personality or that you're expectations are influencing your cat. I'm not being sarcastic, also I really am not saying that. I'm just pointing out that that can be a factor, it's ultimately up to the individual to come to their own conclusion, and I respect yours.

Sol Invictus 12-03-2008 02:22 AM

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As I respect your opinion; you have been given good opthalmic advice to care for your eyes in a harsh environment, and it is sound medical advice.

However, it cannot account for the hundreds of people whom will stand up and say 'I saw some thing', and have perfect or near perfect vision.

I also know that if Sammie hunts some thing, its to eat it. Her nature is semi feral (she is a rescue cat) and if I leave her in the room at night alone, i can hear her trying damn hard to catch some thing.

Oh, and there are no spiders in the house because I have electrical / magnetic repellers through out.

Sol Invictus 12-03-2008 02:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 371 (Post 90215)
I'm sorry if I came off the wrong way. I fully believe that such things exist. I was just talking in a general sense, as when you're specifically looking at/for something. And that can also mean psychologically, whether a belief in such things might make you more apt to have a glimpse of these things or they are just products of a fantasy prone mood.

.

I am going to say this one thing, and please don't take it personally because it is a comment against society and its rules as a whole.

I hate it when a person can come forward and say some thing out of the ordinary and this catch all 'fantasy prone' label is used.

Children experience unusual things... they get labled as fantasy prone, drugged and ignored.

Adults see some thing unusual... they get ignored and ridiculed.

Our whole society is so wrapped into the lie sold to them by the powers above them that anything can be explained away by this damming label.

Thats why its called a fringe belief; society doesn't want to hear it, so pushes it away to the edges and beyond, much poorer for doing so too.

Any how, i'll leave this alone now as I can see the way avalon is going, and really i'll do my thing and leave off commenting and sharing... because more and more people here on the boards have a ready supply of societies labels at hand to plaster all over peoples posts.#

Peer 12-03-2008 03:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brutus35 (Post 89201)
Thanks for the info. "Peer"
I normally try to relate to them by turning slowly, still looking out of the corner of my eyes, and say things like "whats going on buddy", being friendly, hoping that they will make themselves a little more visible. Nothing has happened yet, but I am hoping..:trumpet:


They're very shy.....

Peer 12-03-2008 03:29 AM

Re: Did you see that???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Subsonik (Post 90085)
Woahoh!! This has all gotten much heavier than I had imagined. I don't think there's any explanation for what that effect is, it could be a great many things. Peer, I see what your saying, when I look into a clear blue sky I usually see those tiny little dots of changing colour moving all around almost like dust but not affected by volumetric light. Don't know why I can only usually see them against a bright sky though. I can focus on them but they never go out of focus really - they just move too fast to follow. Anyone else seen these? They're quite entertaining if you're bored:P

No that is not what is meant.
What you see is Mouche Volante, and those are proteine parts inside of the eye.

371 12-03-2008 03:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sol Invictus (Post 90226)
I am going to say this one thing, and please don't take it personally because it is a comment against society and its rules as a whole.

I hate it when a person can come forward and say some thing out of the ordinary and this catch all 'fantasy prone' label is used.

Children experience unusual things... they get labled as fantasy prone, drugged and ignored.

Adults see some thing unusual... they get ignored and ridiculed.

Our whole society is so wrapped into the lie sold to them by the powers above them that anything can be explained away by this damming label.

Thats why its called a fringe belief; society doesn't want to hear it, so pushes it away to the edges and beyond, much poorer for doing so too.

Any how, i'll leave this alone now as I can see the way avalon is going, and really i'll do my thing and leave off commenting and sharing... because more and more people here on the boards have a ready supply of societies labels at hand to plaster all over peoples posts.#

You're right in what you're saying. I'm not labeling anyone as anything, I'm just pointing out that you've got to consider that possibility, but I think you understood what I was trying to say. Maybe I just spent too much time in psychology classes, I use these terms which are really SO subjective...

I've had some personal experiences that were so weird I probably wouldn't believe it if some random person told me my own story. So I don't try to tell anyone that an experience they've had isn't real, because I simply don't know.

It's cool Sol and you're right, people want to cry BS! Pure Fantasy! when someone makes claims they don't understand. I just think in order to better try to understand it you've gotta consider it from that angle as well.

-Peace

DragulaROB 12-03-2008 04:02 PM

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that RARELY happens to me...only in a hard noticable degree

not worthy of mentioning


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