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Ammit 11-26-2008 08:09 PM

Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Just lately I have been doing my usual star watching along with the moon, now, last week I was stood utside work at 7am having a smoke. I looked up at the moon, now, being a bushcrafter I played a little game of finding south using a house roof top as a marker.

Two days later when back at work, again outside having a smoke. I looked to where the moon was 2 days previous, wasnt there.

I turned around , looked up and there it was, now I have over the last few months noticed some strange things with the moon but not 145 degrees difference in 2 days.

Sounds awefully like bull**** but it is not.

Has anyone else noticed strange astral things lately?

Mercuriel 11-26-2008 08:14 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Yep - As well as unusual declinations of the Sun as it transits the Sky. I've been noticing this though for about a Year or so and when I tell others about it - Well y'know how that goes LOL...

:winksmiley02:

Sol Invictus 11-26-2008 08:15 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Glad its not just me.

I was up in the hills stretching the legs and watched a beautiful two thirds full moon rising. Nice i thought, very beautiful.

Two days later, a cresent moon high up in the day time sky.

Going mad? I thought I was, but alot of folks emailed me asking 'did you see it too'.

I am also UK based.

Sol.

Sol Invictus 11-26-2008 08:16 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Oh and don't even get me started about how damn white and bright the sun is.
Thats driving me potty trying to figure that one out.

Ammit 11-26-2008 08:17 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Yeah, tell me about it.
Was concerned to put it here but thought sodit. The sun as you say is changing too, as I have to keep changing the angles, lol

Squeptikal 11-26-2008 08:22 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammit (Post 87381)
Just lately I have been doing my usual star watching along with the moon, now, last week I was stood utside work at 7am having a smoke. I looked up at the moon, now, being a bushcrafter I played a little game of finding south using a house roof top as a marker.

Two days later when back at work, again outside having a smoke. I looked to where the moon was 2 days previous, wasnt there.

I turned around , looked up and there it was, now I have over the last few months noticed some strange things with the moon but not 145 degrees difference in 2 days.

Sounds awefully like bull**** but it is not.

Has anyone else noticed strange astral things lately?

So what were you smoking - really? :smoke:

Ammit 11-26-2008 08:26 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
And that is why i thought this was a bad idea.....

Mercuriel 11-26-2008 08:33 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammit (Post 87396)
And that is why i thought this was a bad idea.....

Yeah - Well - We knew They'd be along at some time. Nevermind Them - Sing It Brother. Its what We're here for...

It'll either be understood - Or those not understanding it will have another chance to do so...

:winksmiley02:

Swanny 11-26-2008 08:53 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
I've noticed lately that the sunsets are a colour that I don't think I've ever seen before

futureyes 11-26-2008 09:00 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
over the course of months now i have been observing many changes above us, around us ...

yes, the moon has been playing magician, the sun some mornings larger and prouder than i have ever seen it to be

i have seen perfect cloud formations of the faces of goddesses by day and crystal skulls in the night

all speaking to us of the changes to come, whether we choose to listen or not is our free will

it is all in the way we see things, if we see nothing then we are not ready

no need to be smoking anything, only need to be ...

listen and see ... without fear

Average Joe 11-26-2008 09:03 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Hmm, it is fairly normal to see the crescent moon in daylight during the winter, usually late afternoon on a sunny clear day (late afternoon being about 2pm at this time of year) so I wouldn't worry too much about that, its nothing out of the ordinary. I've seen it tonnes of times throughout my life.

As for the moon moving a lot over a couple of days, I have to say last week it was very light at about 11pm, so I looked out of the door for the moon and it wasn't anywhere in sight. Anyhow I walked into the garden and it was directly above the house, can't say I've ever seen it there before, or seen it anywhere near as bright? I'm not an astronomer so I don't actually know where the moon should be each night, so I didn't think too much of it.

Surely though, astronomers would have noticed if the moon was somewhere where it was not supposed to be?

Ammit 11-26-2008 09:12 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Average Joe (Post 87416)
Hmm, it is fairly normal to see the crescent moon in daylight during the winter, usually late afternoon on a sunny clear day (late afternoon being about 2pm at this time of year) so I wouldn't worry too much about that, its nothing out of the ordinary. I've seen it tonnes of times throughout my life.

As for the moon moving a lot over a couple of days, I have to say last week it was very light at about 11pm, so I looked out of the door for the moon and it wasn't anywhere in sight. Anyhow I walked into the garden and it was directly above the house, can't say I've ever seen it there before, or seen it anywhere near as bright? I'm not an astronomer so I don't actually know where the moon should be each night, so I didn't think too much of it.

Surely though, astronomers would have noticed if the moon was somewhere where it was not supposed to be?

Dont know about astronomers, but, I have seen changes from day to day but not on such a great change as last week. If others are seeing it too then great, im not mad.

Average Joe 11-26-2008 09:16 PM

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Well yeah, I've pretty much seen the same as you more or less, except I thought nothing of it at the time. But no, you're not going mad.

Certainly, seeing the moon in daylight isn't madness, its a fact.

futureyes 11-26-2008 09:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammit (Post 87420)
Dont know about astronomers, but, I have seen changes from day to day but not on such a great change as last week. If others are seeing it too then great, im not mad.

madness is ego, ego won't get us through the eye of the needle ...

trust will, trust you see what you do

not with your eyes, trust you see with your heart

John aka#404 11-26-2008 09:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercuriel (Post 87383)
Yep - As well as unusual declinations of the Sun as it transits the Sky. I've been noticing this though for about a Year or so and when I tell others about it - Well y'know how that goes LOL...

:winksmiley02:


OMG finally somebody else to talk to :)

For 2-3 years now I have noticed the oddities (declinations, brightness) and mention to people and of course, they just stare at me.

I do not project any theories... only the question "what is going on?"


John
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burgundia 11-26-2008 09:51 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
You've made me think about it. I'll start observing the sky too.

sleepingnomore 11-27-2008 01:03 AM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Strange you should have this thread, I was thinking of starting one.

Every night I take a walk to gaze at the sky. Three nights ago it was an incredibly clear night out as I looked up the stars seemed to bright so I stopped to check for the usual formations. I thought they were strangely low in the sky, I don't know if it was an optical illusion but then I noticed one large star with hundreds of pinpoints of light around it in a random pattern. I thought it was strange and just as I was thinking this it disappeared. I looked away and caught it appearing again out of the corner of my eye. I just stood there dumbfounded wondering what it was. As soon as I formulated that thought I saw a large white helicopter, larger than any I had ever seen before with a red stripe on it, very low in the sky flying in that direction. It made no sound and came from a direction where there is no known airport or military airstrip. I thought how odd???? Then another plane coming from an opposite direction, higher in the sky was headed that way almost in an intersecting pattern. I tried to see what was happening and then they all seemed to disappear behind the treeline.

I've watched the skies for many years and seen strange independantly moving lights but nothing like this. I'm still shaking my head as to what was really there, I know it isn't my imagination.

blastawaycas 11-27-2008 01:19 AM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Agree with average joe i have observed the moon in positions i have never seen it in before as i took the dogs on the front late at night i was somewhat startled to see the moon over the top of our roof (not literally) never seen it there before, it always arises from the north sea over eston hills in an arc looking south this path took it right above me as i stated it somewhaat startled me

and as for the sun my goodness....how dazzingly bright lately

Ampgod 11-27-2008 01:19 AM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
I'm glad you mentioned this.
I thought I was nuts! :original:

(Maybe I am) hahahaa

Sol Invictus 11-27-2008 01:27 AM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Average Joe (Post 87416)
Hmm, it is fairly normal to see the crescent moon in daylight during the winter, usually late afternoon on a sunny clear day (late afternoon being about 2pm at this time of year) so I wouldn't worry too much about that, its nothing out of the ordinary. I've seen it tonnes of times throughout my life.

Please read my entire post. The moon was seen at night a good size and in a clear sky. 2 days later its a cresent and high up in the sky. Thats NOT possible at all. the moon cannot just decide 'hell, ill appear at night rising in the sky AND during the day'.

However, the single fact that i am wearing cat 4 sunglasses all year round now to combat the bright sun is a very stark indicator to me that the suns brightness is changing dramatically.

Average Joe 11-27-2008 01:49 AM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Sorry Sol, I didn't read your post properly.

I'm not an astronomer so I don't know how quickly the moon would go to a crescent from more or less full, or how high it should be in the sky each night, but I have to say seeing the brightest moon I've ever seen directly above my rooftop seemed at the very least odd, because I've never noticed that before.

In fact what made me notice is because it was so light outside (moonlight) at 11pm on what should have been an ink black dark winter evening and so I went outside to investigate. "Strange" thought I. "Never seen moonlight this bright". "and where the hell is the moon?" I then thought. "oh its directly above my roof. What the **** is it doing there? Never seen it there before?" I concluded.

Maybe we should check this out, and compare what we see to what we should see according to the textbook. Certainly if anything unusual has occured, astronomers aren't telling.

McMaster 11-27-2008 10:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sol Invictus (Post 87385)
Oh and don't even get me started about how damn white and bright the sun is.
Thats driving me potty trying to figure that one out.

So it's not just me then, great!
Summer is coming here in Australia, and we usually have lunch outside. Sun is so bright and somehow to me it looks like a blueish hue to the light. I have had my eyes watering heavily more than once because of this.

E: I think this all could have something to do with "electric Universe" and plasma driven electricity currents in space.
Been reading this site for couple of days now. Very interesting stuff: The Electric Universe

Video on the issue: Thunderbolts of The Gods

elsinorelore 11-27-2008 10:36 AM

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Its not just me either! Yeah!!! Ive been watching and observing since Sept., I think it was, and yes, Ive been noticing strange stuff too!!! Also with some constellations, and starts that seem to blink, and pulse alot more than "normal" in a wide range of colors. And the sun and moon, well Ive too noticed what youve all said previously, so what do you think it all means? Why havent we seen more articles about this from the big wigs who understand the science? Seems like theres an awful lot of us, all over the world who are noticing, and watching! Too many of us to call us all crazy, RIGHT!!!

blastawaycas 11-27-2008 02:55 PM

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With regards to all the above could it be the result of the chemtrails we are all seeing after all these years of chemtrails in the sky that what we are witnessing is due to this "pollution" it is now distorting the atmosphere like a heathaze would distort what you would be looking at....if you get what i mean!!

A bit like filters on a camera lens maybe.....just a thought


regards everyone

sleepingnomore 11-27-2008 03:02 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
I was originally thinking more holagraphic technology initially, but who knows?

brutus35 11-27-2008 04:02 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
I have been observing the sun's possitioning over time which seem strange to me, but I thought, it was just me dreaming. However, based on the observation of the different stellar bodies by different people, and the fact that the earth is constantantly on the move, I want to suggest that the anomally that we are observing might very well be with the changes going on with the earth, (i.e dimensional/reality changes) and not necessarily with the other bodies.:trumpet:

Sol Invictus 11-27-2008 04:08 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McMaster (Post 87744)
So it's not just me then, great!
Summer is coming here in Australia, and we usually have lunch outside. Sun is so bright and somehow to me it looks like a blueish hue to the light. I have had my eyes watering heavily more than once because of this.

I used to fly gliders, and I can say that in the last 2 years the light at altitude has become almost unbearable unless the strongest <6% cat 4s are worn.

I used to be good to go in cat 3s and <12% lens strength. Some things happening, but the masses when you try talk about it? they just shrug and go 'well, I don't know, I don't really pay much attention'.

Sol Invictus 11-27-2008 04:10 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blastawaycas (Post 87565)
Agree with average joe i have observed the moon in positions i have never seen it in before as i took the dogs on the front late at night i was somewhat startled to see the moon over the top of our roof (not literally) never seen it there before, it always arises from the north sea over eston hills in an arc looking south this path took it right above me as i stated it somewhaat startled me

and as for the sun my goodness....how dazzingly bright lately

Agree on both counts. Moons out of position at times, the suns way brighter than it ever has been, and some times watching the stars I get the idea we are under a holographic sky and not the 'real deal'.

Ammit 11-27-2008 04:25 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sol Invictus (Post 87871)
Agree on both counts. Moons out of position at times, the suns way brighter than it ever has been, and some times watching the stars I get the idea we are under a holographic sky and not the 'real deal'.

Bloody hell Sol, thats some idea.
Do you believe they could actually pull that off?
It would be mammoth, with all the different time zones, sun sets and rises.

Harper 11-27-2008 05:10 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Well right, good to know. A moon that was so huge and beautiful that I called my friend to say go outside and look, just disappeared. I actually did a 360 looking for it, and continued all the evening. They of course thought I was gone a little in the head.

Of course there is no reason not to believe that we are moving, shifting literally to another place, I just presumed we (planets, stars, etc... ) would all be going together.

Interesting interesting folks.

Sol Invictus 11-27-2008 05:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammit (Post 87879)
Bloody hell Sol, thats some idea.
Do you believe they could actually pull that off?
It would be mammoth, with all the different time zones, sun sets and rises.

I know for 100% certain that they can 'make' fake stars in the sky. I also know for 100% certain that they can make 'plasma balls rush across the sky' and 'voices or sounds' come from them.

I know for 100% certain that with NASA doing over 190 secret military satellites with unknown capabilities 'up there' I have no doubt at all that it could be done.

It would actually explain why we see and hear of people seeing the moon twice, the sun in the wrong part of the sky and stars shifting and dancing. However...

It would be an undertaking so huge that the need or reason for doing it would be earth shattering at the very least.

Ammit 11-27-2008 05:33 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Um, ok so do you think that this might be a fair thought...

If the moon and stars, indeed even the sun as some have stated seem bigger and brighter then normal, could this mean , if indeed a hologram was being used that it was at a much lower atmosphere to hide maybe ships above?.
Hence making everything seem closer?

Just a thought, but, we were waiting for the showing of a ship a while ago, could it hide something of this nature?

Sol Invictus 11-27-2008 05:34 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
I will however add another sighting that defies any explanation and was witnessed by an entire street of people in 2003.

The road in question runs east to west, so alot of people came out to see the moon rising, yes rising in the west. It rose up, hung about for an hour and sank down again.

A full moon later that night rose as scheduled.

Twilight zone? no, but some thing so vast, so monumental is being pulled over our eyes I am sure that only one in a million is willing to contemplate it, let alone try explain it to others.

Sol Invictus 11-27-2008 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammit (Post 87920)
Um, ok so do you think that this might be a fair thought...

If the moon and stars, indeed even the sun as some have stated seem bigger and brighter then normal, could this mean , if indeed a hologram was being used that it was at a much lower atmosphere to hide maybe ships above?.
Hence making everything seem closer?

Just a thought, but, we were waiting for the showing of a ship a while ago, could it hide something of this nature?

Ammit, what i believe? truely?.... OK, here goes.

The sky is a hologram. We are under neath a flase sky that was 'swapped' in the mid to late 1990s, around 1997 at the latest. Why do i think this? because gliding gives you a weird perspective on the world, and at times I saw stars, glowing silver over head at 8k feet, and broad daylight. Other times I saw ripples running across the clear blue sky above me. I am not the only one how ever to see this.

My absolute belief is that a massive, overwhelming effort is being perpetrated against us, and that what ever they are hiding, we are not going to like. Think of it as keeping a fish tank lid on so the fish don't see the waiting cat.

Kulapops 11-27-2008 05:40 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Well, as the moon reflects the sun's light, then of course a brighter sun would = brighter moon.

I too think the sun is brighter than it was, but that's something I've noticed over the last years, rather than something recent. I thought it was because I'm a little sensitive to bright lights anyway (boy do I hate looking into headlights on full-beam!).

As for sun's position, I'm no astronomer neither, but isn't the sun supposed to track a different rise and set on the horizon between solsitices? So It should move.

If it's doing a loop-de-loop in the sky on course, well, that's another matter.:original:

What I've never understood is that if the sun always rises in the east, if it rises in a different position every day, then what is happening to east?? (I think it has something to do with the difference between grid north/magnetic north and true north. Maybe someone knows the answer to this, please?)

Personally, I'm interested in the Zeitgeist reference to the stars of orion's belt linking up with Sirius low in the sky to point to the sunrise on the 25th Dec. I've been looking for sirius, and it ain't been there, then it was , and then it wasn't.

This doesn't make sense to me, I thought all stars were fixed in position and revolved around the North Star (northern hem.). The only explanation I can think of is that orion has to be high enough in the sky to enable sirius to be seen (hence it's appearance/disappearance).

As for phases of the moon, bear in mind it takes two weeks to go from full to nothing, not four, so it goes from new (sliver) to half moon in just a week. Depending on where you are in the cycle (it's sinusoidal like everything else) you could get a fair increase/decrease in size in just two days.

Sol Invictus 11-27-2008 05:53 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
As the owner of a Newtonian reflector, an avid user of http://www.stellarium.org/ software, a very well trained navigator by both day and night and also navigation whilst thousands of feet in the air, I am very well aware of what #should# be where and why the mechanics, physics and mathematics say it should be there.

However, I am not talking about a constant change (although the sun is much brighter, painfully so on a permanent basis) I am talking about possible mistakes in the holographic sky, or what ever is going on up there.

I once watched a star form in the sky over head whilst high over the Uk, change a few colours and then blink off again.

Some thing is not right in the skies, and I don't think its some thing we are going to be able to figure out in the near future; just keeping tabs and making sure each other witnesses know they are not 'seeing things' or going 'crazy'.

Ammit 11-27-2008 06:01 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Quote: I once watched a star form in the sky over head whilst high over the Uk, change a few colours and then blink off again.


Ah, did not want to mention that one at first, wanted to see how many ridicules I got, then forgot it.

I see that many times down here, thought perhaps it was a plane with its lights on as we are not too far from southampton airport. As you say a bright white dot that is totally brighter then the rest, changes a hue or red and blue in slow flashes then, poof,, gone.

Dont know if this makes a difference but I usually see them about NNE.

Kulapops 11-27-2008 06:07 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
I don't doubt your qualifications. Or that mysterious things go on, or are going on. Some things, such as a moon appearing to grow in size a lot over two or three days are possible.

Would you happen to know how if the sun always rises in the east, that it rises in a different spot everyday?

That's always fascinated me.

The idea that a giant holograph is covering the entire night (and daytime?) sky is also fascinating and imaginitive, but my opinion would be that it's a lot of technology to explain away conclusively some anomolies in the sky.

Didn't John Lear maintain that the moon is a giant space station? If it's under it's own power, then it should be able to zip around the night sky at will. That would also explain it's strange behaviour, but both this theory and the holograph theory can't both be right, can they ?

What happens when you are flying in a plane at night at 30,000 feet? Presumably this is under the floor of the holograph too? that's a long way to project clearly. My feeling would be that if we're technologically advanced enough to prodcue such equipment, there's no way there'd be gliches with it.

Alexandra 11-27-2008 06:13 PM

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Altered Species 11-27-2008 06:39 PM

Re: Strange things I have noticed lately
 
Okay, this is pretty intresting. First of all I had almost the same occurence happen 2 years ago and blew it off. This happened in late January or early Febuary.

I was staying at a place where I would have to go outside to smoke and the first night I was just star gazing and noticed where the moon was. The second day at the same time as the night before I had another smoke and I noticed the Moon was atleast 45 degrees to the right of where it was the night before.

I am a surveyor by profession and I have taken solar observations with a surveying instrument of the sun(with a special lens) and I have even checked out the moon at night just for the heck of it. You would be suprised how fast the sun and moon moves when looking at either one through a theodolite(surveying instrument). We have handheld calculators that determines our position by just taking readings of the sun and entering a time, but I personally can't tell you how these calculations are actually made.

What I don't get is how the sun rises in the east and set's in the west in what is realitively the same position on the horizon only at slightly different times(within minutes) through out the year(unless in Alaska) and the moon can be this far out of position on the horizon in one day.

I would really like to hear an explanation of this by someone who is into astrology.


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