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Here is a new youtube video today by Dr. "Ron Polarik"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIVEfVGLBQ

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Just another psych-op spread all over the internet. The Guy talking doesn't have a face or a real name and we are supposed to believe what he says? It has been "planted" everywhere on the internet. Hummm....
Some links:
The "polarik" entity appears to have been created specificly for this controversy. His TownHall persona uses the name "Ron Polarik". However, I cannot find that name (or Ronald or "R") in any phonebook. The only "Polarik"s I could find are a Jeffrey Polarik in Wisconsin and Penny Polarik in Michigan. However, I doubt that "Ron" is actually Jeff or Penny. (Please don't harass Jeff or Penny. It's not their fault that Ron chose the same last name.)"

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/5678

http://my.barackobama.com/page/commu...patgund/gGgLsY

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You really do sound like you are in a state of denial. It is obvious you are part of Obama's flock, but many do not share your views.

"Ron Polarik" is an alias name. He has received death threats from Obama's followers.

Best wishes to you.

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I dont buy it. If you believe whoever put this together, Obama and his circle of power already has the ability to fool the people currently in power. Come on, do you really think a forged document wouldnt have been spotted by the folks in power? The same people that lie, cheat and kill to stay in power didnt check him out thoroughly? I think not.

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As i said before, you should get another name.

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No, I think the DNC, and as you put it, "the folks in power" DO KNOW, that it is a forgery. I've done my research, have you done yours?

We shall see how the next 2 months play out.

Peace out.

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As I posted to you before. If you had read my posts carefully, you would see Bodhisattva is my dog's name. I am a SPIRITUAL WARRIOR with Bodhisattva tendencies.

And I am not afraid to take on people like you. You have no intelligence in your responses, you just attack people.

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Let me get this straight. You are behind the idea that he forged his birth certificate? Do you really believe that the DNC or any political party has such control?

Remember, the people running all the agencies who do the background checks/investigations were appointed by Bush. Majority rule only dictates passage/blockage of legislation. The real power in DC is held by the GOP. Trust me, I've lived and worked there all my life and mix with these folks. They are all packing up and looking for new jobs like they do everytime power changes hands here.

I'm guessing you still believe this forgery claim/
If so than who is he really? Was his mother real? Did his father really leave him or was he actually his mentor? What about his grandparents who raised him? Are they in on it? Who trained him for the role he is playing? When was he instructed on what he was supposed to do? What is his goal? Does his wife know? What about that wild pastor? He sure didnt sound muslim. Bible thumpin christian with sympathy for black america for sure.

When I ponder all the angles on this it just sounds crazy to think its true that he forged his birth certificate. This is compounded by all the false charges against him during the campaign that, by the way, were dismissed by the opposing party as being false.

Reading web pages and listening to youtube can only be considered as research if it is balanced by researching both sides of the argument. I doubt that is the case here. You are cherry picking information from one-sided sources. this makes you a puppet. A sheep. Wake up. Become aware of all the information. Keep the world well informed.

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some Comments -

1. I am quite surprise that even before Obama has a chance to get into the white house/ or start work, so many things are said and judgement are made.
2. Amercians have made their choice so give him a chance to perform.
3. It is easy to sit by the couch and pass judgements - how about the critics - what is it that you have done that your comments are so valid? if there is proof, show it - let us have the knowledge and make the judgement on own. :thumbdown:

There is a new captain on board the ship USA - before he can set the sail, people are already trying to sink the ship! I say, let him make the first sail and see how he will perform. if we want to judge him with the other presidents before him, make sure you compare him based on the situation that each president faced during that time.

I am neither a supporter of anyone, I am happy to see some other person than the current president on that ship. If that new captain says he will make changes - I am all for it!!. The tests have already started with the preparation work and his first public test will come as soon as he is sworn in.

As far as I see, this new president elect is doing his homework, making careful choices. Whoever he chooses, there will also be critics - good or bad - its there.

You can write a thousand of essays on the new president elect but if he hasn't got the chance to do anything - what does it say about your essays? ? bedtime fairy tales?

Good or bad information, if there is just heresay, just keep an open mind on things. :nono:

so channel your energy to doing more positive things. :naughty:

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It is correct that DNC and many others know there s an issue the size of a mack truck coming at them. Ask yourself how they won the primaries, how Clinton was side-lined etc. and then let us step back in time a bit.


hueyii

Well you are joking right? You really do not know who he is? Do you read any other sources other than Avalon and massmedia? I really thought we were beyond all this and everyone at Avalon had somehow done their homework. Ask yourself this: Do you find it normal that all his school and university records are sealed? Does that give you a hint where to start?


Dear "msv"

why do you get so worked up when someone shares a piece of inconvenient information? Are we not here to find things out among other things?

If everything is a hoax and a psyop like you suggest I am glad you prove it to us who have reasons to feel differently. Have you seen the original birth certificate?

I explained to you already in another thread that many intelligence agencies around the world know that there is an issue with the composite person that was presented to the voters.

And sooner or later this issue will bubble back up to the surface. I am not telling you what I know, I am only helping to guide the search.

You have to take it easy and stay in an enquiring mind. Even the Clintons have gone very quiet on this issue, whereas usually they are quite vocal when it comes to this sort of thing. Does that tell you something?

Can I ask you who you are msv?

The fact is the paper is not a birth certificate, it is at best a COLB, and those who purport to have the real thing are sitting on it, and one has the right when in a sane mindset to wonder why.

This is something that is being looked at by many, and even in very high places. So this is not some light-hearted joking matter you can just brush off as a "psy-op," it will be more complex than you think.

As we showed you, the constitutionalists point out that the Electoral College has a duty to look into this. If it does not, it will later move into the awareness of the Supreme Court that already has heard noises about this.

If it was as simple as you make it out to be, then it would not be an issue, no? Then an original birth certifcate would have been produced and the matter would have been closed long ago.

I have to tell you this is not a psy-op. I cant tell you who my sources are but this issue is being looked into both from inside and from outside the USA.

You will admit that Indonesia is involved as is Kenya, and that perhaps even the birth certificate itself might prove irrelevant.


Peace

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Those are all great questions. And I suggest you research them. I don't have time to out line all of them for you. I simply posted the video. I have spoke personally with Attorney Phillip Berg regarding this. He has the video on the front page of his site...[url]www.obamacrimes.com... his case is before the supreme court. You sound like you have a legal background....give him a call if you wish. He does not believe this is garbage.

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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iBgkDS...eature=related

father's race - african ???

in the year he was born , it would say

father's race - negroe

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Unbiased opinions there for sure.

I wish someone was counting how many of these theories turn out to be true.

I read your link, read the other side:

This link has actual pictures of the real thing:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

In particular, this link as they expose lies from both sides:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

And this:
http://news.aol.com/political-machin...h-certificate/

We've all beleived in things that weren't true. Our society has taught us that its ok to do this to people. It's not. It keeps them lost in a world of confusion. Be a skeptic. Stay grounded. The real truth is inside of you. Seek it out and be free. Dont get caught up in the game.

May you all find peace

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Also interesting is that aprox .30 into the video he reference to a kenya birth certificate of dec 1963 yet the one they show on screen references to 1961 date 3.31 into the video

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Dont beleive it. Africans have a distinct accent as compared to African americans living in the US.

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Homework posted. The more I read, the more I see how overblown the charge is. Sorry I cant truthfully say I agree with your point of view.

The people who are pushing this have an agenda and have made other false charges. I bet they sell books. I'll meditate on it and ask for guidance. My heart tells me there is no truth in these charges tho.

May you all experience the oneness that we are. Goodnight.

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im sick of hearing about obama

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his birth certifate for the year he was born in

should state NEGRO (SORRY; i spelled it wrong)
or BLACK

african - is NOT an option - for that section,
at least, NOT in the year he was born in

besides, elections are fixed

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It is pretty clear to the unbiased observer that Obama was "chosen" and lifted out of obscurity to at least run for president, if not to BE president, as was Bill Clinton and before that, Jimmy Carter. Had anyone heard of him (outside of Illinois) before this election campaign?

Then, look at who he chose for a running mate--a powerful Zionist. And I use that term not to mean a Jew, or Israeli, but to mean a member of the Illuminati team. Also, look at who else he is choosing for his team (if he makes it into office) --Recycled Neocons and Clinton era politicians. See this:
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/10...s_white_house/

What I wonder about is, did the DNC and the PTB KNOW that this was going to be an issue, and put him forward BECAUSE of it, knowing that he is ineligible to be POTUS? Did they plan for him to be sworn in, then resign, so that Biden can take over? If Obama is rejected by the electoral college, what happens then? A couple more years of Georgie Junior, while we have another campaign?

Inquiring miinds want to know. I want to know.

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Nice try Exchanger, however you are trying to work the equation forward! This is all inverted and backwards.

By allowing Obama to get elected, the masses that voted aren't going to allow the Constitution to stand in the way of their man, and those in power know it. Yes, there may be a mainstream disclosure but do you believe that it will benefit mankind?

Some lies are meant to stay hidden and in this case, it may be better to let sleeping dogs lie.

You have my empathy.

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Whew,

St. Clair, we are in trouble. I had no clue that there was this much denial.

It will decided by the Supreme court, and it will be what it will be. And what it will be is many freedoms lost.

We are moving through Obama's handlers into an unprecedented time of political corruption. About the time we thought the Clinton's were corrupt, we get the Bush corruption. Then as soon as we think it can't get any worse than the Bush clan we get Obama and the old NWO guard gets placed back in power!

America, under the next puppet controlled president is headed for total dictatorship. And when some of the cool aid drinkers of America start bleeding I would not be surprised that there will still be denial. We have no time to waste, and so unfortunately no time help them from getting hungry bellies, the denial is desired and there taken upon themselves and will manifest. This is a perfect example of the real manifestation that occurs by participating in a belief system.

It isn't the talking and debating of such realities that causes the manifestation it is owning, and participating that causes the manifestation. And right here on this thread there is a perfect example. So, as Kerry has said entertaining the thought does not mean I participated in manifesting it.

Let us not ignore the common sense that produces benefit through dialog as opposed to the superstition that just talking about undesirable events will manifest things. So, let us focus on our ground crew work, and continue to put together our regional and sub cultural economies. Let's continue to realize we will be needing each other to make it through. And if people are in denial to do any of these things say a prayer for them and move on to the next person.

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Why is it that everyone assumes that we're living in times of enhanced corruption? Just look at the Kennedy thing, when I was a kid. Kennedy wants to wrest control from the CIA, while banging one of their biggest blackies' wife. He gets whacked because of it, and then she gets whacked by the younger brother Bobby. Then to restore the original balance, Bobby gets whacked. Talk about corruption! JFK was a major flaunter of power getting off on LSD, and numerous other goodies.

We only believe that this is a new standard of corruption because of our limited experiences.

I heartily agree with the end of your post...

Let's get on the with Ground Crew work and quit flirting with whitey disenfranchisement. Shift happened! Impotent remorse is not a worthy endeavor. :sneaky2:

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I found it quite amusing that when he was elected the bbc had film crews in kenya. They had alot of his family members on film cheering for him. What I found amusing was, they where in a crappy tin shed and looked very poor indeed. If he can leave his own family poor and in poverty, why is he goingto help the families of the USA one little bit?

It's clear he couldnt give a damn.

The devils pupput.

Regards

Bobcat

p.s. He still hasnt produced his origional birth document. If he had nothing to worry about he would have just shown it in public and told everyone to calm down !!!

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It is ALL imploding...no matter who is in office!

The downward spiral is already in full momentum.

Politics, the crock of lies as we know it, IS leaving the planet!

It is now up to You and Me and Our Own Higher Help!

What do You want Your Life to be?

Make it so and be it!

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Yeah, I heard a lot about his Kenian birth.

See these links for more details:


http://noiri.blogspot.com/2008/10/bo...l-general.html

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/20...ves-in-the-uk/

http://obamacrimes.com/index.php/com...n-berg-v-obama

But what we can do when Obama is the person who more money has rised in the militari-industrial complex ever?

PD: the same persons who backs Obama are the persons behind the media, Obama is the person who more money has rised betwen the bilderberg grup to(the true name of the bilderberg is the "comitee of 500" did you know? hehe).

Cheers

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HELLO!!!

Let us tread gingerly on eggs and refrain from throwing stones when sitting in a house of glass.

There were two candidates in the race, both backed by the current overt and hidden establishment. This has been the case before, how could it be different this time?

St. Clair obviously favoured the McCain/Palin ticket. Even to the extent of squeezing an interpretation of Palin's astrological chart and pronouncing her ticket to be on the winning side. Then offering an apologetica that did not even address the salient point, namely that of him stretching his credentials as a professional astrologer a wee bit too far. And to what purpose? A McCain/Palin win would have been an equally challenging situation for those who want a real change of direction, given the McCain/Palin connection to Zionists, Jesuits, the open backing by a Rothschild, Christian Dominionism and Fundamentalism etc etc

How unbiased was this, St Clair?

If this were a local squabble, we might have just wished good luck. Since much more is at stake, let us hope that this administration develops in a more positive direction than our worst fear tries to dictate.

The world is ready for a change, but the change will have to start inside each and every one of us.

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I have been following both sides of the Obama issue since he and Hillary were in the spotlight together

I watched the Sinclair stuff emerge, and wondered why Hillary didn't take that and run with it. Even if it were all LIES he backlash alone could have won her the nomination.

I saw the Muslim accusations go by and nuthin

and then this birth certificate thing, again nuthin coming from the political arena

folks these are the same people who tried to connect him with terrorists organizations to win an election

yet nothing on such a simple solution as his place of birth

this issue that has seen tons of legal action throughout the election by various groups yet all were legally blocked left and right, and it is rather odd that one would desire to withhold showing their birth certificate in such an time as an election when just showing it would stop all these inquiries and accusations in the first place

even more strange is the complete lack of interest in the opposing team that has no problems saying "he rubs elbows with known terrorists"

either he has adequate credentials and they have been checked and accepted by those who would see him fail


Which is the stance many Obama defenders take, and they may very well be right and maybe there is just alot of believable dis-information floating around which is natural for a election year, we cant count out the possibility of error when emotions are high, political events such as elections are engineered to heighten people's emotional state; so personally I accept this as a possibility, and in this case Obama's actions confuse me...so I can see the propensity for suspicion and if Obama was not your pick for the presidency then of course you can compound that suspicion towards conspiracy theories; seems natural


OR


"They" are aware of his fraudulent credentials meaning there must be an agenda going on in which the opposing team is participating in as well


and if the latter is the case, then we have good cause to worry because then we are all witnessing another staged event to get someone "chosen" into office, not that this has not happened over and over already

I just read the "voice of the white house" over at tbrnews.org today. I read an aticle called A Knife in the Dark and learned that some of the angry hard core GOP "criminals" are going out and funding racists and or Obama opposing organizations to get them to do their dirty work for them by promoting deep resentment against Obama, and perhaps even pulling a trigger

The Klan is experiencing a major resurgence and the economy and other current domestic issues are contributing to their anger and conviction not to mention that the white race may not be the dominant race in America in another generation.

Wouldn't it just be the kicker, that the assassination of the first black American president, was already planned to be used to send everyone over the edge and create a need for the martial law they so seem to want, and all the actions that follow which we have already considered in other conspiracy theories

it would also be a great blow for internet censorship since the internet was used to incite many hate crimes, giving them a reason to further their internet regulation schemes

Hate crime legislation would be called for as a solution to the increasing tensions between black and white, the same hate crime legislation we see as conspiracy theories today

come to think of it, it could move their agenda ahead a great deal in many areas

were he assassinated it would send this nation into absolute chaos, perhaps even worse then Kennedy

we all know order comes from chaos, an order that could be viewed as salvation by the sheep?

and if they character assassinated him before the nation by removing him due to a supreme court ruling on his birth certificate, that too could suffice into sending this nation into absolute chaos as well

enough for martial law perhaps?

I'm not saying I like the man, but look at his following and the effects he has already had in the geopolitical arena, and determine the backlashes of a blow like this

all the while the people who were REALLY meant to be in office got to move in finally as originally intended, and you can tell from recent MSM news on Hillary she is already frothing at the mouth over the Sec. State position and has probably already moved her desk in the office without even having the title yet

I agree that there is alot going on here, and the birth certificate thing is a huge deal, but I think there are bigger things happening here and this new presidency is under NO such scrutiny so far, better to be asking why Palin or Hillary didn't jump on this. Palin, bless her heart, was probably pulling her hair out to keep from saying anything about it if indeed there is a conspiracy here

Suspect Obama ONLY if you will, I suspect the whole damn thing, and I am more suspicious of the WHOLE group of people who have also not called his credentials into question more than just an agenda in which just a president elect lied about his place of origin

Paranioa?

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Lets nominate Kerry for President in the next elections, lets check her birth certificate beforehand just in case is a forgery, we don't want to start any threads regarding the aunthenticity of the validity of her citizenship. It has occur to me that Obama might be an extraterrestial, I wonder if they have birth certificates. Obama what planet are you from ? He looks a little grey to me !!!!:naughty: Now we can all rest better knowing that the president of the USA is an extraterrestial. We come in peace you earthlings!!!:naughty::mf_rosetinted::chair:

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Agreed. Can we just get on with it?

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Give it up already.

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And you're spreading a lie. How does it feel to do that?

Anyone can create a youtube video and claim to have dirt on another person.

ENTIRE Political Forgery Exposed !
 

And again and again and again...

It is ALL imploding...no matter who is in office!

The downward spiral is already in full momentum.

Politics, the crock of lies as we know it, IS leaving the planet!

It is now up to You and Me and Our Own Higher Help!

What do You want Your Life to be?

Make it so and be it!

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Dear Friends...


EagleSpirit is correct with the statement here.



Look friends, Bodhisattva is correct too, and if she has the courage to point out the elephant in the room that everyone wants to pretend does not exist, then I salute her for that fortitude. She is one of the few who does not hesitate to do what is right.

Excellent points made by HERETIC in his/her post.

I would like to add to those who keep repeating the lies about Palin that Mrs. Palin is of an Oecumenical Christianism type that has nothing at all to do with what she was accused of. Everything the media made up about her has been debunked by now.

Let it rest now. Ask yourself only this: If the mass media (controlled by you know who) attacked and smeared and slandered the Palins in such blatant ways, does that not tell you something?

We had a member here in the early days who knew the Palins for decades and he wrote about it and I posted it in threads that were deleted. Also if you know what Lindsey Williams stated about oil worldwide and oil in Alaska and connect these dots you ought to get the true picture without me stating the obvious.

I agree we can move on. Lady Bodhi, you agree? We move on? Let them figure it out....

If you want to keep goin and find out more, you can count me in to back you up. I think McCain and Palin have signalled we can let it rest, things will sort themselves out in the most surprising manners soon is all i can "predict"no pun intended...

Peace

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a friend gave me this responce.

this stuff is interesting but try not to get to wound up over it. Much of it is bad science with a clear political agenda. The Republicans and the far right do not like the current political situation at all and there crying has only just begun. Keep the faith,

Im not sure on this subject. lets say its true. then what do you all expect would happen? hillery is president? hum? gorge stays in office a while linger?

interesting.

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personally. I think we should line up most all of the politicians on the steps of the capital. and :giljotiini: then hold new elections. anything less will just produce more of the same.

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You ought to be kidding, St. Clair! I have seen plenty of media slander on Obama, to put it mildly. It tells me that slander is standard fare in all of our media these days.

'Oecumenical Christianism' is not a very precise term. I seem to remember that Leo Zagami claimed that Oecumenism is run by the Vatican and the Jesuits, and that their meetings have weapons trading as a side show.

What I know about the Oecumenical movement, is that it has the Roman Catholic Church as a driving force. The Vatican regards all protestant groups as heretical, lost sheep that will understand that the Pope is their one and only shepherd.

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What would a "white hat" do if he were president? Give me an example of any political figure globally who MAY NOT be corrupt? How about Evo Morales of Bolivia. He is working on socialism, but he's a really good guy as far as I know. What is it that you are all so afraid of with Barack Obama that hasn't been done before. From kool-aid drinker to the ever SO smart all knowing ones on this thread. I still find it interesting that this info is same info blasted by right wing media. Again, these are the same people who gave us Bush/Cheney. I keep hearing how we're all doomed, and how stupid we are that we don't see it coming. What the h*ll are you talking about? What's going to happen? I've read all the conspiracies, what is the worse thing that will happen, debtor prisons, death? The amero, staged terrorists attacks, homeless, poor, hungry, broke. Most of this stuff is already happening. Why are there two threads by same poster on this issue with a video by a guy who won't even say who he is? Everytime I end a post like this I just want to erase it. Feels like such a waste of time.

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Tara
Yes I agree.

Indeed, yes there is Evo Morales to whom I dedicated a page in my book, Aquarius One and capricorn one, the tribal leader, installed elected simultaneously to the little bottle neck whale appearing in London.... and there is also Vladimir Putin and his student Medvedev, and a few more, such as Mr. Klaus, Czech President, and a few more, hidden in waiting for later. Believe it or not, and Palin is one of "us" too hidden in her "disguise." It would be best she just looks after her immediate surroundings, as we all do in our radiant zones, see Morales, Klaus, Putin, et al.