So very few people on avalon
 

Hi i don't know how many other people have noticed just lately how few there are of us on here has any body got any ideas as to why that is have they all been banned in the clean up thanks just a general question im throwing out .

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Christmas Shopping ?

Obamas in now so everythings o.k. we can go back to sleep :rolleyes:

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I will tell you the reason I have asked them to please shut down my account. There are humans on here who think they are gods. They give out "spiritual information" and think that they are Jesus incarnate. (no i'm not a christian, but I am trying to make a point) In the end I realize , socializing with MYSELF and human beings is what is really going to help me grow and not this forum. This has worked for ME so far. I do come here to read articles. I wish you peace.

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you are what you project and have free will to disregard the view of others, as am i and so i live....

"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for
people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
-Noam Chomsky

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people have the information they need for survival/obama is in so its all ok now/they have formed new partenrship and ground crews/some people are weak minded and cant handle certain information./some were confused to what avalon is about and have left? there are still great threads started by GREG ARTURO for example.. the useless fluff has been trimmed and there a less threads. quality not quantity??

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Because it is Sunday? Because we need a break from time to time? Because we don't want to become Avalon-addicts? underline the correct answer:original:

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Its because of me, sorry.


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I agree some people can't handle it and would like to stay asleep and believe
that Obama's in so they can sit back on the laurels.

Anyway, those of us who are here should be. Those who feel to leave, shouldn't be here.

Either way, there is a future out there waiting and we can deal with it or we can't, it is the same.

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the most user's online was the 10,15,08 just in case you don't know-
that was during and after the whole blossom event or nonevent.
In any case it brought us all together.
people need to talk and not just about anything but topic's that are current-
and inciteful.
as long as avalon exists i will always be logging in and out-daily.
Imagination is'nt everything without a little bit of something.

freespirit

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Ive noticed a great reduction in worthless threads. I have also found some amazing information from people in here, I have found great humour, great artwork and some pretty cool interpretations of history. I also asked to be deleted a few weeks back, when avalon was full of politics and B.O. I'm glad they didnt delete me, cos since then Ive found some great stuff. Rock on! :thumb_yello:

peace

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maybe more than first glance - but all posts in quarantine being vetted before post or deletion by moderators ;)

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It goes up and down like ocean tides, some people left on their own and some were banned. Those that were banned should've been because either they were doom and gloomers or smart asses bad mouthing people.I've noticed that some of the ones who were banned are on other sites bad mouthing Avalon, which is chicken s....t in my book. That's like running home to mommy crying about some bully picked on you! If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen,get out! But if you stay, don't cry about getting burned later on.There's still alot of info. and daily news items to discuss, and alot over in Camelot to talk about and read up on.

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WOW...it was just snowing here ...

maybe, it is time to hiberate !!!

maybe, it is time to sort out your life !!!

(the biggest question, for me, right now, is, how do you face it, alone)

there is "real" work, that, i know, i need to do...
so, at this time, i am off to write my book(s)

Brightest blessings of energy, light and love to all of you...
Susan
The eXchanger

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I'm not going anywhere. I love this forum, and the people on it. The main reason I love it is, all the information that is made available. It is fringe type stuff we will not find anywhere else. We will always have differing opinions on issues, but so what? People have opened my mind to some issues. It is a bit addicting though. I have a hard time not checking in daily.

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I certainly agree with your first line Elephant Man. I learn alot from the high-quality posts here on PC and PA. I too have noticed as of late the quality of posts seem to be increasing and the sarcasm shrinking. I'm very happy to be a contributor here.:thumb_yello:
RSF

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http://freshimagehosting.com/images/...nvoi4z8n59.jpg AVALON AHHHHH:smoke:

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The Fall

The fall off in participation is possibly because when the Bush regime was in power reality became so warped that exoplotics seemed very believable. Then, there is an election and the person with the most votes wins, which lends to the feeling that reality may be returning to “normal”. I don’t believe that. In my case I am fatigued from exploring this absurd reality in the abstract venue of the Internet. I am trying to spend as much time with real live humans or benevolent ET s as possible.

I have just started visiting site. I looked at it once or twice and it was a little overwhelming. Possibly I haven’t thoroughly explored it, but I haven’t seen much comment on the New Paradigm Handbooks themselves. This material has had a powerful positive effect on me. I sympathize with George Green. He seemed depressed that people don’t have the patience to get into the books. I have given away about thirty of them and not one person I gave them to has responded to them in the same way I did. I belong to a small group of people who have actually read the things and the material has also affected them so I know it is not just me who is attracted to this stuff.

I ran across a Paul Levy interview on this site. I thought it was very powerful. I prompted me to revisit Jung and there is a Jungian Society here and I have attended a meeting. I see the New Paradigm books as Myth, which does not diminish their truth but potentates it. If this Time is what many of think it is it makes sense that Myth will invade reality. I plan to take this lull in the action to explore my own depth. I can only blame myself for the misinformation I receive in that inquiry. I am going to gird up my loins.

I think this advice from Embracing the Rainbow is relevant.

“The focus must be more wholistic and include survival for service aimed at lifting the yoke of darkness and descending vibratory experience from humanity and the planet rather than focused on individual escape from the morass of a destructive situation. In other words there must be participation in the solution rather than using the information to abandon ship.” Pg. 4

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As with all new forums the excitement has now levelled and people have said their piece got things out in the open and now have not much else to say.
Also the last month October was a month of many observations that never took place.
One minute we were being told the financial crash would cause so many agenda's such as martial law on the streets, finding a new home for safety, food shortages etc;
Then we had the big ufo hoax which never happened, that was a big let down i might add you could feel the energy drop on the site because at last!! we finally wanted this to happen.
Then of course the American elections well that's it what next?
maybe some felt with no new info coming it it was not enough to feed their needs.
We must continue in this lull this peaceful time and reflect, the future well we will have to wait and see.
I have made some wonderful people on this site and will continue to be here and i still get that buzz like the first day when i joined.
I guess it's talking to all you guys i feel lucky that there are some many true hearts out there.:wub2::wub2::wub2:

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[QUOTE=Dantheman62;81067]some were banned. Those that were banned I've noticed that some of the ones who were banned are on other sites

really ? what other sites......?? i miss some of the some of them had good points....i would enjoy sayin hello to them.......

oh and seems as if your pointing at yourself.....bad mouthing you say ? and i quote "chicken s....t in my book. That's like running home to mommy crying about some bully picked on you!!"

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You only got part of my quote in your message, I said those that were banned should've been because they were posting stupid doom and gloom threads, or were bad mouthing people.There's a guy named gazbom or something like that, that has a blog where norval goes to bad mouth avalon, norval used to be on the forum also until he was banned. And to go elsewhere and talk trash about this forum after being banned here is chicken s...t in my book.If some people were banned there's a reason why, so no need to cry about it somewhere else. I've never talked bad about Bill or Kerry or the mods, nor will I. I've never been warned or had any infraction points or even been pm'd by any mods. You don't go into somebody's house and tell them the carpet stinks, or the paint's an ugly color, or the food sucks, it's called respect.

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SIR GALAHAD here's what happened. The forum made an attempt to go in the right direction. Babies complained and moderators fixed it.


............They did not run away they were banned. So who is running away. Who can't stand the heat. You contradict yourself. And why is there 'some bully' picking on then. That means the bully is the coward not the one standing up for themself. So you have it backwards as usual.

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Alright you need to read that again, I said that's LIKE running home to mommy crying about some bully picking on you! I didn't say they were running away!, Yes they were banned! And when I say if you can't stand the heat,get out, that means if you don't like it here then leave, don't stay around and moan and complain about it!

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That is fine except you have some illusion that they are bad people. The people complaining are still here. Like yourself who are complaining about who I see as fairly decent people. You're the ones protected by mommy and daddy not the other way around. You use the analogy it's their house. No it's the peoples house. The internet is not suppose to be private property unless you are into fascism. We make this entire thing up. The people who liked the forum are also banned too. It has nothing to do with what you said. Some left because they didn't like other people and so on. But most are too quick to be banned. The reason why you never got any penalty even though you are rude is because of being an owners pet.

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............They did not run away they were banned. So who is running away. Who can't stand the heat. You contradict yourself. And why is there 'some bully' picking on then. That means the bully is the coward not the one standing up for themself. So you have it backwards as usual.[/QUOTE]

couldn´t agree more......oh and Dantheman62 baaaa

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the voice of truth !!!!!!! thanks.....

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Well, there really is not much to talk about on this forum...


You can only go on and on about preparedness for so long.

Sooner or later you get your alpha members, and it turns into a strange mindless challenge of people's beleif's.

I suggest more topics to talk about.

I would like a poetry section or a section where members can express other things, perhaps a debate section, so we can have debates, and learn. Perhaps a section where we can post pictures of odd things we see, news or what not. Making Avalon a more dynamic message board. I try to come on as much as I can, do I agree with every mind I meet here, no, yet instead of posting hey your a moron, I just do not post on their thread. Actually there are some threads here that actually scare me, as far as what people think and beleive, but that does not mean I am not brave enough to try to understand how, or why or for what reason they beleive such a notion. Anyhow its not the quantitiy of the product we produce its the quality...

PEACE

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In fact the answer is simpler.

"There is only one of us here."

A..

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I'm a new mod, all of the mod team and Bill and Kerry just had a nice teleconference to get us all aligned with the Avalon purpose and on the same page.

I've seen some very balanced and sensible observations voiced on this thread and I've seen a few that are not true to my understanding of what has transpired on the Avalon forum.

A few people were banned because of offensive attitudes. I don't know of any that were banned for posting "doom and gloom" info. The problem is the attitude.

How would you describe the attitude you would like your partners in an "Avalon-type" community to exhibit? Would rude and disrespectful, accusing without questioning another directly about their motives and intent be the type of people you want in your community?

And a lot of others left, on their own free-well because of offensive attitudes grandstanding in the forum.

Please don't jump to conclusions about Bill, Kerry or the mods. They have all been accused of some really far out schemes and theses accusations simply are not true. Please ask questions in a respectful way. We have some new moderators on the team now and more time to answer you about Avalon. Bill will have some time this week to answer questions - look for him to be posting a thread for you to ask questions.

Karen

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Xhaosis, I have noted your suggestions and will post them to the moderator brainstorming areas. In fact, we may start a "Suggestion Box" thread - we just need a little time to sort our way through the humongous task of "improving Avalon."

Karen

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One thing that annoys me is every time i get into a thread, and i'm enjoying reading peoples comments (like in this thread) an argument breaks out.

One person says something another doesn't like and the trading of insults begins.
This is becomming far too common. Maybe some members are put off by this, who knows.

I had hoped to find more understanding of LOVE on this forum, but maybe humanity's desire for conflict is too strong.

PEACE (please)

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Dean Plejaren,

Most "bans" are short term to encourage people to modify offensive behavior before they return again in a few days. We'd rather call it a more gentle term, but the vBulletin software is quite limited and we have to work with how the software is written. I know Bill would love to have someone design a special application for Avalon whose language would be more in alignment with his vision.

I will disagree with you - this is the internet "house" built by Bill and Kerry and we do have "rules of engagement" to treat each other with respect. Most people who have left the forum have done so because a very few people were allowed to carry on in off tangent directions. With more mods on duty now, we hope people will get true answers to their questions in a more timely matter before the conspiracy mind has concocted dozens of of untrue explanations. If you have any questions, just ask.

If anyone wants to be more in tune with the language of non-violent communication ...
please visit:
The Center for Nonviolent Communication
Global organization helping people compassionately connect with one another through Nonviolent Communication, a process created by Marshall B Rosenberg, ...
www.cnvc.org/

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Somebody said that people move on to other sites what a relief, I thought they all got rapture and became food for the reptilians.:naughty:
Well maybe one of the doom and gloom predictions became true for them.
Who knows why people leave, too much positivity can be contagious, why be happy if you could be gloomy. :lmao: Just kidding folks.:wub2:

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Yes, Macleodmunro, I agree with you. The moderators had a 3.5 hour teleconference this morning and I brought up the topic of posting info and links to help people learn about more gentle communication skills.

Karen

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Now, let's knock it off with the Obama-bashing. I'm getting sick and tired of seeing that in every single thread here.

Regardless, perhaps people are just taking a break? I don't need to be here all the time either.

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Maybe some people have found out about Dr Earths's new ecological nightclub

http://www.holisticbulletin.com/2008...club-launches/

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Hi Karen,

well, this sounds a great idea.. I for one hope this will bring about a much needed improvement, and hope this effort put into positive commnication styles will pay off for everyone... as even after the "clear-out" a week or two ago, there is still sometimes a level of communicating (by some, not all) which leaves quite a bit to be desired , my humble opinion.

This is what made me walk away a few weeks ago, not the content of the threads or ideas (even the ones I disagreed with), but the way they often demised into slanging matches, derision, sarcasm, sometimes outright verbal abuse and often really low-level ways of speaking to people... by some (not all) members, and also some (not trying to point any fingers here! :original:), not all, mods themselves........ I think this really might have put a lot of people off. It did me! I came back as I feel this is an important place to learn and share, even though still feeling rather wary.. sometimes feels like I'm treading on eggshells.. afraid of (unintentionally) setting off any verbal 'explosions' !

So.. I really do hope this will lead to a fresh re-start for Avalon, as it is a valuable site and I for one will stay for as long as the level/tone/style of communication remains positive, well-intentioned and peaceful ... whatever is being discussed and whoever is discussing it!

Maybe then more people will feel encouraged to post and stop lurking?!

Peaceful blessings! :original:

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Hey Karen,
You had a meeting about how to keep on purpose? Feel free to share the main points with everyone on the forum who are part of it.....

It depends how wise you are. If banning people is the answer to offensive attitudes (that one interprets as offensive) it's not dealing with things but making them worse. Mainly because their attitude may not be what is offensive at all so it creates another problem instead of the solution. It may be the other person who is offensive by thinking they are superior and interpreting it as bad. People have the right to decide things. Responsibility for not being censored is everyones problem. The purpose of Avalon is not in the direction of it's defined purpose otherwise a community would be in the works that we could all participate in. There would be planning and a clearly defined progression happening that we can all track. If others express observations or judgments are labeled offensive. This is getting on thin ice in terms of covering up what others say and their own experiences. It prevents positive growth when you censor no matter what the excuse is.

So it's not attacking or accusing or an attitude that is a problem. Blaming individuals, is not kool. Not allowing them to speak, is not effective. The issue is sticking to the defined purpose of the forum. Which I see is offtrack at the moment. Maybe re-define it's purpose or stop thinking it is the purpose it advertises.

You can't stop people arguing forcefully without a regression, that is part of the process of resolving present frictions. Forcefully banning average people is going backwards. You can say they deserve to be banned and it was all correct but I wasn't born yesterday.

P.S
When you own a site that doesn't mean you own the people. Nor does it mean they are in your territory to order them as you please. This is what causes illusions that make you think certain people are above the rule of other people. It's not a pyramid. You strip people of their right to be themself.

Yes I have already got a ban as a warning for having this 'attitude' which I think is entirely offensive in itself.

I know that some people are comfortable thinking things are different without the truth upsetting them and their daily log on experience. For that I am sorry. I'd rather upset them than let others paint a picture that is not the true situation.

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I think the people most likely to find themselves invited to leave, are those who could care less whether they upset or offend others.

Any point which can be made, can be made without trampling others feelings.

There are lots of very sensitive people here, who have largely put most confrontationally polarized interactions behind them.

Many have said that proximity to this careless behaviour is a deal breaker in whether they are able to participate here or not, and unfortunately, we've lost a great many valued members.

An example would be where a poster tells another he's gotten something wrong, and then adds a completely unnecessary "as usual".

That kind of petulant behaviour can grow legs and walk away, IMO.

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1) The voice of truth? 2) Owners pet? 3) Too quick to be banned?

My comments:
1) Not the voice of truth that I hear. I see a lot of opinion there, some I agree with and much that I don't agree with and some downright erroneous.
2) I was not given any list of of "owners pets." :nono:
3) Too quick to be banned some may say, and not quick enough for others. There are many different personality types on the forum. Some love to be argumentative. Some find argumentation to be most unpleasant. The ban rate here has been very, very tiny. As the mod team continues to change members and there is more communication and training, and the work load spread a little thinner, there should be less people feeling unfairly dealt with. Give us a chance. Many times other members make complaints about a person which over time lead to that person being banned if their unpleasant behavior continues to upset other members.
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Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren
That is fine except you have some illusion that they are bad people. The people complaining are still here. Like yourself who are complaining about who I see as fairly decent people. You're the ones protected by mommy and daddy not the other way around. You use the analogy it's their house. No it's the peoples house. The internet is not suppose to be private property unless you are into fascism. We make this entire thing up. The people who liked the forum are also banned too. It has nothing to do with what you said. Some left because they didn't like other people and so on. But most are too quick to be banned. The reason why you never got any penalty even though you are rude is because of being an owners pet.