Who's the real god worshiped by high rank masons?
 

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi..._rank_masons_/

A short video that concerns the name of the masonic 'gods' and the masons as a religion.

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Interesting. Whenever I come across anyone who wants to educate themselves more on the Masons, I point them to this website: http://www.ephesians5-11.org/ which has their rituals, grips and passwords, as well as explaining what they mean.

Steven

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Nonsense.

Masons do not worship any god because it is no religion.
That's why any free man of any religion can join.
In Masonic lodges therefore discussions about religion and politics are a no no.
It is true that Masons use religious symbols or better said: Uses symbolisme several religions also use.

The inventors of Jahweh have named every other diety than theirs "the devil."
Christianity actually is the only religion with this god/devil duality, the devil being the dark side of the force.
The name Jahweh as the name of god is only as old as christianity so let's say about 1500 years and before that time this god was called Adonai, the jewish name.
Humanity has always had its gods and their names may differ but the idea behind it:
"The highest and almighty being" is the same.
People seem to need a supreme being.

It is true that the old order of the Knights Templar had rather weird, exotic (to say the least) rites.
It is also true that FreeMasonry is said to stem from those Knights Templar but

FreeMasonry is not a religion but a brotherhood and the secret word is NOT Jabulon.

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Apologies for not posting any detail concerning the link.This is the first time.

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I wonder if there are any masons on this site just a thought and would they admit to it!
In the lower ranks of freemasonry they would not know what their higherarchy are involved in even secrets within there own kind!
Tells you what kind of people they are really doesn't it! :thumbdown:

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Yeah exactly Jacqui-the lower ranking masons haven't a clue of what the higher eschelons are involved with.You could be a mason and still be in the same ignorance as a non mason.

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I have been a free mason for 11 years and also reached the higher ranks not 33th though and not in America but in Europe.
I left because of the masculine form of the order which I could not combine with my marriage anymore.

Antaletriangle, I am not defending freemasonry because it needs no defending but I see you judge something without having the faintest idea of what you are talking about, maybe because of the mystery clouds hanging around it.
Well then let me tell you that free masons have been chased and killed by the catholic church like the jews were chased by the germans in the 2nd worldwar. The germans chased freemasons as well and many were killed.

Why?
Well, the task of every freemason is to independantly look for truth. That's his task.

So what do you get? You get men who diligently study things and research and investigate problems of life and everything around them and that results in people, able to form their own opinion because they have checked and double checked the things they are talking about.
They can think and come to conclusions on their own and most of them are well trained in that art.
A fascist goverment like the germans in those days (and any fascist government nowadays) of course can not tolerate people thinking for themselves so they have to be destroyed.
That's why they are hidden and work out of reach of profane eyes.
But their work is inner work and as a brother you take an oath never to betray your brother so among brethern you are safe.

But still what do you get?
Oh I can't see them, they must be doing something bad..... ow dangerous.....
The christian way of thinking and judging.

Let me tell you that freemasons spend millions and millions on philantropic goals but they never will say that it comes from the masons as they work in silence.
My old lodge for instance supported a lepre-colony in Indonesia and payed for a school in one of those villages.
The children never knew where the money came from and they shouldn't know.
All they knew was: study is free.

Maybe I changed your mind a little or am I a suspect now?? :shocked: :sneaky2: :zip: :lmao:

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Are you sure Peer i thought you couldn't leave once you joined isn't it something to do with the ritual you take part in when you are asked to join?

I have heard differently and i have to disagree.
Did you have to gve your soul Peer?
If so what are you doing on here?
Do you really think we are that stupid?

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Lucifer, very few people understand the lucifer concept.

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Then you heard wrong.
You can leave whenever you like and come back as well.
In the rituals you go through death and resurrection and as you see:
I made it!
In no way you have to give your soul away.
I don't think your stupid, you just don't know.
You still believe in the boogieman?

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So peer you have been reserected hm!! just as i thought, the masons have a good way of trying to elude the people of their true nature of business on this earth.
What do you say of necrophilia?
I have been around to long to believe what you are saying and perhaps i don't know it all but why do you have to join any group in the first place if your aim is to help others why join freemasonry.
Because your freemason ancestry goes back a long way from grandfather, father, son are you a martin Peer?
If you are talking about percecution you are talking of the templars yes!
The templars the founding freemasons.
And were they not here for a reason other than setting up their lodges times gone by and setting there agenda's even then.

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All I know is that you don't and I can see that.
What have masons to do with necrophilia?
I think I have been around a bit longer than you my friend and I have learned not to judge things I don't know about.
But you don't have to believe me.

One good advise though:
Take a good look at your avatar and then read your own words again and see if they fit together.

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Sorry peer my avatar has nothing to do with my post i know you can't say to much because you either do not know what your higherarchy know or you are not saying.

You can not upset me by your remark about my avatar either i am true to myself are you?

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Unfortunately Freemasonry has been high-jacked by the Fallen Ones. Some of the rights involve the use of skulls and bones (sound familiar?) I would estimate that many tens of thousands of corpses (or their bones) are used in Masonic Temple rites just here in the USA alone. Any serious study of this fraternal society shows a complete overlap of its dominant members and the ruling elite (including most US presidents) who are orchestrating a take over of the world as we speak. IF ANYONE TELLS YOU THAT THE FREEMASONS ARE A PHILANTHROPIC ORGANIZATION HAVE A GOOD LAUGH AND THEN SET THEN STRAIGHT!!!

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The hidden hand's explaination

Our Creator, is the one you refer to as 'Lucifer', "The Light Bearer" and "Bright and Morning Star".
Our Creator is not "The Devil" as he has been spuriously portrayed in your bible. Lucifer is what you would call a "Group Soul" or "Social Memory Complex", which has evolved to the level of the Sixth Density, which in effect, means that he (or more accurately "'we") has evolved to a level sufficient that he (we) has attained a status equal or arguably 'greater' than that of Yahweh (we have evolved higher than him). In appearance, were you to gaze upon Lucifer's fullest expression of our Being, the appearance would be that of a Sun or a "Bright Star". Or, when stepping down into a 3rd Density vibration, we would appear as what you may term an 'Angel' or 'Light Being'.

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Okay guys wait a minute,outside of Mr. Peer how many of you know anybody who is a free mason? There's many lodges in PR, funny thing about these so called rituals because these lodges are out in the public view. Now I am not defending the masons, I just want a show of hands of how many are former members talking about first hand experience.
The list of members of the Free Masons is public, why? Is this is such an evil organization why would they risk being discover ? I am not saying that evil people cannot join the free masons, they are in every sect of society. Mr. Peer is honest and brave enough to come foward with his account. Please take that into consideration. As a matter of fact a few project avalon members have come foward I have said that they or family members where free masons. In my case I have friends who are or have family members that are members. I cannot view these people as evil. Take into consideration how many organizations are view as evil. Catholics, the goverment, black ops groups within the goverment, Muslims, Hindus, Sihks, Shintoism, Tibetan Buddhism, Buddhism,Communism, Socialism, Aliens, anarchist, New Age, White Brotherhood,Homosexuals,, Moonies, Krishna movement, Free Masons, The Illuminati, The Jesuits, Jews, Kabalist. You get the point, somewhere in this evil list we are all included none of us are off the hook unless you are a fundamental evangelist saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. From their viewpoint we are all going to hell. Ouch !!!

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Lucifer for sure. He/she/it needs our energy to keep their dimension going. You sold your soul for rock n roll/power/knowledge etc...

Freeman perspective and Alan Watt is good at elucidating this subject.

http://freemanarchives.com/

www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com

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Close but yet so far

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Please share your wisdom

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What's going on inside Bohemian Grove???

Thanks to Alex Jones we got a snippit of some bizzare rituals conducted by masons wearing satanic robes worshipping the deity molach

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When i found this out i was really mad, but wisdom does bring sorrow because we don't like being fooled.

LUCIFER and Satan is a well guarded concept and are just two of the many names for the sacred feminine energy we know as Kundalini. The ancient wisdom teaches us that life has two truths, relating to the lower and higher vibration of all things. There is the destructive and constructive. The destrutive path of lucifer is when the sexual powerful and creative energy is channeled downward. This is the beautiful angel Lucifer that was cast down because it wanted to be above God IE TPTB. This is the symbolic king of the babylonian Empire. Her name is also Quetzalcoatl.

This is the falling ASTEROID OR ASTAROID. Roid meaning violence and agression that you get from a falling star, steroids, or staroids. Lucifer was also known as the ASSASIN , get my drift. :mfr_lol:
i will create a post on this in detail so people will understand who this falling Astaroid is and not what.

HELL HAS NO FURY LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED(THESE are the kind of phrases that this knowledge is hidden in.

How to raise the Serpent in this wilderness of worldly illusion is THE most guarded secret on the planet .Forget UFOS and Free energy.:mfr_lol:

And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to HIM was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

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looking forward to it, could you also post links...cheers :original:

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I don't know of any links to give you at this time. I always ask questions about what most consider to be MUNDANE.

I have collected esoteric out of print literature for years. The old books from the 1400 and 1600s that got you burnt at the stake.:mfr_lol:

I pay very close attention to patterns and they put me on the path towards the most profound answers.

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Your on the money 777. The "great work" is intended to replace natures experience with Lucifers manipulation. Hence all the tampering of food, perception, knowledge, biology etc.... I personally like the junk DNA thing right now. Lucifer is one arrogant and stubburn son of a bitch and it just does not like the game of nature. Its not just our planet either its a conglomerate of systems. Suppressing the kundalini is it too. Subjegating women and men to stop from finding out how to transform energy, communicate to each other and enjoy your little prison planet is the game. Oh they do it so well, im in awe.

Godspeed

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Hi UG, I never stated FM was a philantropic organisation, I stated that among others they spend millions on philantropic goals and that is a fact.
Call me a liar if you want.
You, like most people here know nothing about freemasonry except what you heard in rumours.

Someone suggested that if there were masons here that they should step forward and I did because I am not afraid to tell anyone what I stand for and who I am.

But as it is clear to me that no other mason is here (or else I would know by now) I will stop posting on this thread because it is useless to argue with people so preoccupied.

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The god named EGO. The one that serves thy self.

One

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there is NO god, named EGO

ego was something, someone told you
you had, in order to control you !!!

and, for the most part, it works

see how quick the monkey stops,
when someone says, the monkey is in ego !!!

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

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The Jesuits are in command of the Freemasonry and they worship Lucifer

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I am not a mason but i do know some, they are in my family my brother in law was a master mason i have seen his regalia also hm! less said on that one i think.
The mason's are the power that be on this earth and i'm sorry to say this but if you do not join you will not get on in this life!

They are a sect to themselves and as was said before they only help there own.
They also can make peoples lives a misery, causing illness, loss of work as i believe and this is my own belief that they can take life!
When you join the masons you do have to give your soul. they want complete power over you. As Peer stated part of their ritual is the reserection of life, fine but to be reserected they first have to die YES! well then comes rebirth, taking a soul the forth dimential being comes through and takes that person over. Fantasy poppycock! i can hear you say, well this is my belief and much has been wrote about this.

Necrophilia is used in the ritual, i have known undertakers who are masons and the practice of bodilly parts have been taken for the use of ritualistic means.
The whole Bohemian grove thing is another ritual that takes place and it has been said that bodies are burnt and giving to Marduk the owl god.

There is a lot of blood ritual going on.

If these masons are such a caring peace loving group why do they form a group anyway why can't they go out nd help others as an individual.
Because everything is about money with the masons it's their god, gold is their god.
And if you want to tell me about the wonderful things they do for charity well don't bother because most charities are run by these groups and there is always a hand out for the chosen ones your hard earned cash that you give so freely to help some poor kid out in Africa, or the disabled, or the underdeveloped country will simply be lost in administration and costs to advertise.
I will not give to charity it's about time they show this for the scam that it is.

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So you are alluding that raising the kundalini is the equivalent of the ascention? Is that correct?

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Jaqui please stop your dum lies.
The ritual of death and resurrection symbolises the death of the ego and the rebirth of the being you really are.
I am glad people like you are no more in power nowadays or else I would be burning right now.

@martina:
It were the jesuits who burned the katahrs and later tried to extinct the masons because they were free thinking beings and therefore enemies of the church.

Ok, sorry for this last post.

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Based on my understanding of the teachings. All phases of initiation must have experience and then there is the ascension. The soul can at that point decide if it ever wants to incarnate again to help up lift humanity until the last soul has reached perfection or it can move on to next level.

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I know there is NO god named EGO!. It was a joke by the way. A play on words if you will. Get it now, ones ego is worshiped as a God. They worship themselves or oneself. A god named EGO, ones own ego. Think about it. lol

One

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where is that written?
this is something i hold as firm belief since very young...
(never thought that there was an option though)

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Hi Jacqui D,

On the contrary to Peer, I'm glad that you think as you do. I'm sure that you must thuink that any religion where someone is 'ressurected', 'born again' or even 'reincarneted' must be Devil worshippers. Of course that would have to include every religion on the planet as every religion has the same doctrine.

I've seen plent of photos of Freemasons and I don't thuink they wear anything too outrageous, like a bishop for example. I mean what's with that big hat and huge walking stick? It must be to capture and beat little children like the Catholics did years ago.

As for taking life, the majority of murderers are Christian. Fathom that one out.

I'm not too sure about Necrophilia. I think you need to check up in a dictionary about that one.

Why does any religious group form a group? Why are there spiritual centers everywhere? What about Sunday School trying to brainwash the toddlers? It just doesen't make sense does it? Ha damn Freemasons going to a temple. Terrible. Right? they're just like....just like.....just like Christians!
Bhuddists! Muslims! Jews! Oh my omnipotent God!

You shouldn't judge all Freemasons based on your brother in law. If he's tight with his individual charity, that's his business.

Finally, the church that is more business orientated is the Universal Church, which over here in Brazil have been indicted in crimes which include laundering money (very Christian), and have now their own national TV station, selling advertising space to all and sundry.

The richest church on this planet is the Roman Catholic church that even owns a country (Vaticano). Go figure.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend the Freemasons, I'm just trying to look at your arguments from the opposite angle so that conclusions can be made.

Best regards,

Steve

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Lets not forget one of Project Camelot's whislteblowers Leo Zagami, 33rd Freemason who delves into the lifestyle of a high ranking Freemason. He'd had enough of the horrifying Satanic, black magic rituals, mind control and torture that was going on inside the lodges, behind closed doors.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_nLfRsReGII

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Steve A.

And

Peer,

Everyone is aware that at the high degrees of freemasons exist deliberate and purposefully intended evil. Evil is a religion. Every world view is a religion. Even the blue mason's are first lured by Christian principles (a religion) and they even speak of Jesus Christ (a religion) in their lodges. Biblical characters, regardless of their insignificance, ie Hiram are portrayed and ceremoniously acted out to give the ignorant and undiscerning person a false impression.

Every ceremonial enactment within every lodge or temple is by design to ridicule biblical Christianity. Christians that are mason's are just simply ignorant.

It is obvious that what you accuse others of not understanding is the very thing you are guilty of. I would spend a little more time understanding Christianity before you let your atheistic (also a religion) belief expose your ignorance any further. For if you fully understood biblical Christianity you would understand the many cults against it and just what the NWO is all about.

Google Bill Schnoebelen and ex-33rd Illuminati mason to learn more about freemason's and what the rest of the people around here know already.

And stop it already with trying to insult our intelligence.

With Love,

Kelphi

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Hi Kelphi,

Had a quick look for Bill Schnoebelen. He studied spiritualism, ESP and ultimately white witchcraft. By the time he had his bachelor's degree, he was a full-fledged witch (Wiccan).

He's also done an awful lot in 16 years! He continued his Wicca (his wife was a High Priestess - would she ever accept anything less?) he's an expert of the inner circles of the Iluminati, he was a 32degree Freemason, has done trance channeling, they came in contact with supposedly high "Spiritual Masters" (both physical and astral beings (just in case anybody asks)), cultural spiritualism (Voodoo, etc. - what's this etc??) Thelema (the Aleister Crowley cult), Rosicrucianism, the Catholic priesthood, Mormonism, and various Eastern philosophies. Has even spent time in the 'Church of Satan' even getting into underground Satanism! Phew!

Oh I forgot.... he wrote four books with meaty titles like "Blood on the Doorposts" and "Lucifer Dethroned" and gives lectures after he became a 'Born again Evangelist'.

He even came to Brazil to spread the word. :)

Today, Bill and Sharon operate "With One Accord Ministries" (sounds like a winner) and offer not free counseling.

By the way, Aetheism is not a religion as you beleive that there is no God, ergo no religion.

Best regards,

Steve

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I'm sorry if i'm treading on toes here, but i stand by my understanding of what masons trully are.
Okay so there are some good ones i didn't say there wasn't but just getting across all this do good deed stuff is just a front as far as i can see.

It's all about money, you scratch my back i'll scratch yours!
Never mind about the poor beggers who work hard each day and get no where in their lives, just existing to pay bills etc.
Most and i say most before someone says i accuse all wealthy people of being masons but yes they are in.

I don't want to get into religion, i believe in a supreme creator yes i'm not an atheist, but i do not believe in going to church etc, that's just another form of control.

people need to see that the controllers who have us entrapped in this cycle of reincarnation are just these people.
They are in our governments, in our councils, in our education, in our health systems they are running the whole shabang!

If any of you have followed the interviews on camelot you will see for yourselves how the info comes across.
People need to open their eyes to all this, their symbology is all around us, in churches, in town halls, in cinemas even in shops, i will say no more about it just wake up!!

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Hi Jacqui D,

Just out of curiosity. What are you wanting everybody to wake up to? What are you saying is there when we all wake up?

I can see what you are standing against, but it's not very clear to me of what you are standing for.

Best regards,

Steve