people being herded into gold for the kill?
 

here is an article on the value of gold that i would recommend to anyone who has bought gold or is contemplating buying gold. this guy states anyone buying physical gold is in for a losing proposition. that there will be no hedge. if my comprehension of the article is correct, it says we're being herded into gold for the kill. it's from rense.com, "planetary deflation","explaining gold to gold bugs again", by al martin, 11-7-8. if anyone could shed some light here because this flys in the face of a lot of other info(or propaganda). certain groups know that a panic stricken population is primed to be taken advantage of to separate them from their money and security if they're fool enough to be influenced by hysteria.http://rense.com/general84/planet.htm

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I will have to agree that WHENEVER advice is given as to investments (like gold) through main stream media, you can bet your but there is a good reason for it and it probably isnt for all who buy gold will be somehow "safe" from a collapse.

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It is true that someone who buys gold or silver right now as an "investment" is mistaken. Owning gold and silver now is not about "making" or "earning" money, it is about transferring assets from u.s. dollars, which will soon become relatively worthless, into something that retains value. Purchasing freeze dried foods could be viewed in the same light as the proper motivation to purchase gold and silver right now.

p.s. those being set up for the kill are the ones investing in the Comex market, purchasing "paper" gold and silver instead of obtaining the physical...


Z

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A flood of gold that has been secretly held back will surely cause deflation.

One example that popped into my mind was if a currency change from dollar to something else was to take place at the same time as massive gold deflation but a lot of folk had no choice but to cash in their gold for new currency then that wouldnt be nice

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Any deflationary effects are temporary, because we have an economy based on a fiat currency, of which our wonderful FED has a love of printing only bounded by how many keystrokes on a keyboard Bernanke can make in one day. The downward pressure on gold and silver currently is done via manipulation of the Comex, which cannot fill outstanding orders. When the temporary dollar rally ends, and it crashes, gold and silver only have one direction to go, especially if there is a new global currency backed entirely or partially by gold/silver, which would be the reason for governments to hoard it, other than the reasons that we all should be holding it, of course - it has value based upon its limited quantity, unlike the dollar, which is nothing more than an IOU backed by colorful paper.

Z

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Most people are in some kind of debt, usualy CC. What is going to happen to people who are carring debt? I would think it would be better to have ready assets or a savings right now? i know people who are charging there supplies, food supplies ect. are they making a huge mistake?

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I've wondered the same thing for a while. What happens to your credit card debt if it all goes into the crapper? I mean, can they take your home from you if you can't pay your credit card bill? If the blood from a turnip maxim holds true, what can they do about your cc debt? Repossession of assets?

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Amero....here it comes...

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some have said the same about silver along with its 90% above ground being spent on industrial use with markets like china & india up & coming.

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Hi,

Well you know of course what they say: "To find a crook follow the money".
So, why follow the money ? You will end up with crooks !

Follow your sense and take care of your health and sustainability.
You need less (or no) money the more you are able to take care of yourself (and 'as much as possible' others of course).
This will be difficult for lots of people but it doesn't mean you shouldn't start.
When the going gets tough the ... so prepare (be less dependent on money)

Cheers

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just read another article on marketoracle.com.uk that supports my initial article on rense.com stating gold will level out at about $500 because of deflation.http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article7198.html any comments? are we being sucked in?

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That's a fact Jack!

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Al Martin also predicted that the election would be called off.

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I have to say that my impression of rense.com is not good - swift-boating rants; really anti-Semitic - tending to reflect poorly on any who associated with them - just another way for the 'powers-that-be' to set us fighting against and blaming one-another and distract us from improving ourselves and our situation.

On the other hand I do think that in a real emergency - precious metals decline in value because folks need necessities (food etc.) and are willing to sell their commodities to get them.

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most credit card debt, is NOT SECURED

however, if it is a line of credit, and, it is against your home

then, i suppose, they could

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I tend to believe that god or silver is not a good idea. It has been artificially kept down over the last 6 months. Rense.com is right on target. It should be 2K per oz by now. I have seen it drop over night as much as 30 US dollars for NO APPARENT REASON. And to add to the opinion of Rense, they sound anti-Semitic because that is where the money is...face it. I don't think they want us fighting amongst ourselves, they just wnat us to see things from a different angle. I think there are rotten eggs in every sect. Some rotten eggs have more money, and that is why the attitude. Don't get me wrong, I love the Jewish faith and what it stands for. It's not my opinion, just a fact... to see the root cause of all things, follow the money. The answer is always there.

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Get a judgment, go after your assets, garnish your wages.

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Thats all I could think of when I keep hearing buy gold now before its too late. I remember what Lindsay Williams said about the late seventies when the government persuaded the arabs to buy gold. I remember myself the reports of arabs having gold fixtures on their toilets or gold toilets even, gold silverware, gold everything. They ran the gold markets sky high just for them and then guess what....the bottom fell out.

Suckered. Only thing is, there doing it to ttheir own this time the evil s.o.b.'s

This just seems like a repeat to me. Like it was long ago enough no one will put one and one together. Maybe many havent but it isnt as though were talking about ancient history here. Henry Kissinger needs some new material, he's repeating himself or has alsheimers.

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The thing is if you are starving you would give an oz of gold away for a piece of bread. So don't buy gold. Buy food and supplies. And don't take someone else's gold either for food or anything else. Feed him freely or perhaps boarder for supplies or services.

If you encounter me out there I will have food and water but I will not take gold for it, but rather something else of good use. Gold will be of no use. Food, fuel, wood, water, clothing, tools, seeds, etc.

Folks this is the end of the road. Where we are going we can not take gold.

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greetings,

as a student of precious metals, let me say this; for every chart interpreted one way, you can find 5 different opinions disagreeing. i think you will see that most of those that say gold will go down to $500, they also say that when hyperinflation starts, it will shoot up almost overnight. So do not buy gold to make money, buy to preserve wealth in the long run.

most of you that say that food is more valuable than gold, you are correct in a manner of speaking. i do not believe our civilization will get so primitive that gold will not have value. it is easily transportable and widely acceptable as a universal system of currency. i don't see the central banks stuffing seeds in their vaults.

Namaste'

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Hi Mike_Jetson,

A flood of gold on the market would not create deflation but gold inflation lowering its' value drastically.

This would mean that gold would become less useful for financial purposes.

Then the 'richer folk' buy all this low value gold and hoard it again, and, by limiting access would make it once again something of value, of course benefiting from this change of value and by controlling how much gold would be placed on the market.

It's an old Rothschild trick.

Best regards,

Steve

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So do not buy gold to make money, buy to preserve wealth in the long run.

most of you that say that food is more valuable than gold, you are correct in a manner of speaking. i do not believe our civilization will get so primitive that gold will not have value. it is easily transportable and widely acceptable as a universal system of currency. i don't see the central banks stuffing seeds in their vaults.


Isn't this what is recommended on Avalon? (whistleblowers...) Buy gold and silver coins, store food and seeds and collect items for barter. Get out of debt and off the grid as much as possible. And if you must, move to a safer place. Diversify and be flexible. Maintain a positive attitude and balance in your outlook. And get on with life!!!

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Put your money in food first- I agree w/that wholeheartedly. You can't eat gold.

That said, if you have your food supply and also have a bunch of federal reserve notes sitting around I'd put my money in a precious metal before leaving it in dollars. The dollar has decreased in value 96% since 1913. An ounce of gold will buy pretty much the same stuff it bought in 1913. A dollar will not. It seems to me the dollar is being intentionally crashed for global currency or whatever purpose they have these days. Even if there is deflation and your gold loses value it is still worth something. The dollar may not be so lucky. Anyone read up on the Weimar Republic?

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The number of regular people who can afford to buy any significant amount of gold is not big. The scam people are going to be caught by is the debt scam, loads more people are in debt than are buying gold. Most people hawking gold do seem a bit suspicious but its like the people selling wellies at Glastonbury. They charge too much for them and you know and they know you are being scammed, but you really do need them.
Alex Jones makes me very suspicious when he goes on about gold. I dunno...

gold and silver have been valuable for ever and will be in the future. They will go up and down but will not become worthless. And as a few posters have commented buying gold and silver now is not about making money its about securing the wealth you have in the most stable form you can get. paper is paper and electronic money disappears in a power cut. Gold and silver are storable and durable.
True you can't eat them but also true you can't store, preserve and maybe carry $10,000 worth of food to keep you. Food perishes.
Get a lot of storable food, and if you can also get silver and/or gold.

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I dowsed that article and it did not ring true. Best to make up your own minds... With regards updates on finances and slightly amusing I listen regularly to this...

http://patriotarchives.blogspot.com/ daily mp3 of news...

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Yeah true. Ill sort the food futures out first, worry about more metal later :)

Alex Jones is not doing anything wrong promoting gold

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amen!

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If you have money buy gold before 11/28/08 because the word is comex will get raided because it can not provide all of the physical gold it sold that must be delivered on that date. That means gold will shoot up.

Also buy seeds and store food not out of fear but because you must eat. Only spend your money in businesses that are local so the money gets circulated back into your community. Encourage others to do the same.

Plant a big garden this spring and put minerals down on the soil so you will have nuitrient dense food to eat. It will take less food to feed you that way and boost your immune system which will be effected by depressions of various kinds as the dollar desolves into nothing. The extra food can be traded for other things you need.

The ground crew

You might want to read:

http://www.maxkeiser.com/

http://projectavalon.net/forum/image...es/mfr_omg.gif

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I used to watch the oil commodity market as part of my investor training. What I saw was that oil had a long low base. The rise was proportional to the base. Then they crashed it, and that is still ongoing. The people who win are the people who can control the ups and downs, and, secondly, the ones who are smart enough to ride on their coattails.

The same with gold -- a long low base, then a rise, then a drop.

I'm not going to play that game.

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Yeah it's called Fort Knox :mfr_omg:

Tons of gold there...

Last time that the price of gold soared out of control... the government opened the vault at Fort Knox and sold gold. This caused the price of gold to drop sharply (read plummet) from over 700.00 to about 300.00

Everyone who bought gold lost their shirt... the money the gov made from the gold sale almost wiped out the deficit and we had 20 years of stability.

When did this happen? 1980ish

How soon we forget

Read it and weep all ye doomsayers who bought into the gold rush. Can you hear the hammer falling?

http://goldprice.org/images/monthly_dollar.gif

http://goldprice.org/30-year-gold-price-history.html

Be better to put your money into low priced stocks of good companies that can survive hard times... because they will recover :wink2:

Oh and if you do I expect a commission :tongue2:

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Did they buy their gold back later at the lower price?
Makes me think about "Trading Places" with Eddie Murphy.

btw, That is real dirty towards its own citizens..

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And then when you are done with it you can flush it down the toilet :) at least your paper currency has a useful use ;)

Interesting that there are two threads here about gold and they both say the exact opposite to each other :D

I think, like yourself, that getting into the physical commodity of toilet paper rather than the COMEX toilet paper ETF is very wise especially when the S starts HTF it will actually be a real value asset :D after all unless we all start living off light we are all going to be wiping our assets clean no matter what happens... I alway look out for BOGOF deals on loo paper :D buy low, sell high....

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I'm with you there, matey :original:

TP will be in great demand, after decades of a long low base, lol.

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TP, and, RED lipstick (without lead)

cosmetics is another way, they kill women

i was shocked when, i found out, what was in most cosmetics

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I hope all of you that have purchased copious amounts of gold have also tested said gold.

A "chemical/scratch test" kit costs next to nothing... You would be surprised what alchemists can do these days.

Test your gold. Trust me. I know many Russian Mafia types here in LA that prey on people like those here. They think its hilarious; after living through a real collapse in their mother country.

It's Big business.

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Ever one is entitled to their apinion but we don't have to agree.
Rense is wrong as the collapse of the US dollar is on the edge and then the birth of the AMERO !.
what Dollars you have will be paid back to you on 1 cent on the dollar.
You will have no choice but to except this as in order to work and be paid in amero's to pay your bill's,especially if you have a family to feed.
gold then will start to rise and will top out @$5,000 per ounce.
Then you can sell your gold for amero's if you have any but guess what not many people do as it is all been held for reason off "they would be back in the same situation if they didn't
I own gold and didn't purchase mine for re-selling but for trading for other goods.
Do yourself a favour
don't hold a large balance in your bank account and if you do transfer it to an offshore bank account you have just opened and keep your money in their currency.(not euro's but swiss franks, franks...etc)
I would say buy gold silver but guess what you can't....
Remember you will have to except the amero to live OR you could join the masses rioting, looting, risking your life.
Do the smart thing, listen to your instincts.
peace to all.
T