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efields 11-08-2008 02:11 PM

We Could Create our New World Order!
 
What is so wrong with a New World Order? I think it would be great. We have done so well, the way it is now, right? A NWO would be a chance to get Humanity all on the same page. A NWO would be a shot at reducing/eliminating corruption. A NWO could mean, rights for all and an end to Genocide, War, and tyranny.

Of course I understand what is commonly thought by the choir here. But why go there. Why does it have to represent a Draconian 1984? Even if it is brought forward by the PTB, who's to say they will be successful in their attempt to 'control' the machine? A NWO could be their very undoing, having all the 'baddies' in one place, with no one to be a scapegoat. To my vision I think a NWO, is our best bet, at survival. Imagine the Global ramifications in terms of going Green, and an equal share of resources! An end to petty bickering and foolish wars. An end to waste and world hunger. An education for all with one standard and an end to separation. I see it as our only hope. A chance to end NeoCons and hate groups once and for all. I say Bring It On! A NWO is probably what we need for the ET's to be able to feel safe in contacting us! Again I say Bring It On and end Back room Power Deals! One Planet One Rule. All Humans Here, sounds pretty good to me. Rmember we are in control. We could have the 'NWO' of our dreams ! We don't have to be sheeple! Total Transparency!

borrasca2012 11-08-2008 02:20 PM

Re: We Need a New World Order!
 
.....JEPP!!!!!!..... i think so to....... sorry to say !!!!!!:original:

but perhaps not so extrem like the extrem endzeit profets say.....



just some easy global solutions:original:

TranceAm 11-08-2008 02:23 PM

Re: We Need a New World Order!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by efields (Post 74657)
What is so wrong with a New World Order? I think it would be great. We have done so well, the way it is now? A NWO would be a chance to get Humanity all on the same page. A NWO would be a shot at reducing/eliminating corruption. A NWO could mean, rights for all and an end to Genocide, War, and tyranny.

Of course I understand what is commonly thought by the choir here. But why go there. Why does it have to represent a Draconian 1984? Even if it is brought forward by the PTB, who's to say they will be successful in their attempt to 'control' the machine? A NWO could be their very undoing, having all the 'baddies' in one place, with no one to be a scapegoat. To my vision I think a NWO, is our best bet, at survival. Imagine the Global ramifications in terms of going Green, and an equal share of resources! An end to petty bickering and foolish wars. An end to waste and world hunger. An education for all with one standard and an end to separation. I see it as our only hope. A chance to end NeoCons and hate groups once and for all. I say Bring It On! A NWO is probably what we need for the ET's to be able to feel safe in contacting us! Again I say Bring It On and end Back room Power Deals! One Planet One Rule. All Humans Here, sounds pretty good to me. Rmember we are in control. We could have the 'NWO' of our dreams ! We don't have to be sheeple!

We could reprint them little red booklets of Mao.. I think it worked out pretty well in China on a small scale, didn't it?

efields 11-08-2008 02:33 PM

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LOL. Way to go, with a positive tilt there, TransAm. LOL, I love it, 'little red booklets', Umm yeah that WOULD do it lol sheeesh Preachen to the choir there buddy!

optimistic 11-08-2008 02:42 PM

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I agree, we do need a New World Order, it is the only logical leap for mankind.

Just not the NWO of FEAR the PTB want to give to us, the one with the microchips, censorship, police and intense surveillance.

There is no reason we can't have a NWO of PEACE.
It does not have to be brought in with war, famine and disease.

Mike_Jetson 11-08-2008 02:45 PM

Re: We Need a New World Order!
 
NWU

New World Unity

Go ahead and keep accepting the word 'order' Its a nasty word/meaning

Operator 11-08-2008 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by efields (Post 74657)
What is so wrong with a New World Order? I think it would be great. We have done so well, the way it is now?

My guess is that you don't live in Africa or South East Asia right ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by efields (Post 74657)
A NWO would be a chance to get Humanity all on the same page.

Well we don't all fit on one page ... however wait and see, when they are finished it will come close.

Uniformity is typical for fascism. Diversity is a wonderful thing. If we would all be plumbers we would die in a couple of days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by efields (Post 74657)
who's to say they will be successful in their attempt to 'control' the machine?

They were pretty successful so far ... Did you manage to stop it yet ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by efields (Post 74657)
A NWO is probably what we need for the ET's to be able to feel safe in contacting us!

Oh my gosh, you didn't know they are currently shooting at them ? You know, Most 'good' ET's support 'free will'. And that will not be found on earth anymore. They will lose their interest in earth. Make sure the quarantine is sustained. That is if we are lucky, it's more safe to wipe it out.

You probably want a Walmart and a McDonalds in every city, worldwide right ? And maybe you even want to have every city shaped the same way so it's easier to find your way wherever you are ....
Well I have news for you ... it doesn't need to be that way because you are probably not allowed to leave your area.

Please take a minute and try to come up with a country, government or parliament which is not corrupt. Can you ?
I think it was David Icke who mentioned that absolute power corrupts absolutely ... He's most likely right.

Please think again about what you wish for ....

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Originally Posted by efields (Post 74657)
A NWO could mean, rights for all and an end to Genocide, War, and tyranny.

No, that's when it will really start !

I hope you have some time this weekend to think this over again ....

Cheers

TranceAm 11-08-2008 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by efields (Post 74670)
LOL. Way to go, with a positive tilt there, TransAm. LOL, I love it, 'little red booklets', Umm yeah that WOULD do it lol sheeesh Preachen to the choir there buddy!

I know where you are coming from, and I would support it full heartedly, however, knowing what goes on on this Planet in ALL Of recorded history..

You just know, that the Neo-Cons and others that have their own superiority agenda, will stop at nothing to get at the power top of that pyramid, and even will "initiate" the voluntairy joining of the masses to DEMAND it, stimulate by planting the seeds/memes..

It is not negative ment<sp?> far from.. Just some realistic imput how absolute power will be grabbed by absolute corrupt people..

Edit: Operator.. You beat me to that one.. :-)

ghglenn 11-08-2008 03:02 PM

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Working together for the common good of Humanity and Earth are a great idea. However, having control by one group will allow for the human-condition of greed and coruption of power to be all too easily utilized on the masses. Are we willing to give our free-will away, the gift of the Creator, or are we willing to hold on and fight for what's left of our human existence?

America is the last true "Republic" in the way.
Once they abolish the 2nd amendment, "clean house" so to speak, you
will have your NWO. :wall::zip::shocked:

TranceAm 11-08-2008 03:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ghglenn (Post 74684)
Once they abolish the 2nd amendment, "clean house" so to speak, you
will have your NWO.

:mfr_lol:
There will be a page on the Internet describing in detail the holy ritual of a tar and feathering. If not a book "Tar and Feathering for Dummies". :roll1:

One doesn't play with fire in the black powder bunker.

The NWo will find out how many Americans would Co-SIGN the Constitution if asked, and if nessecary in BLOOD.
Fighting for Personal Freedom is different from fighting for your leaders....

300
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JohnWdoe 11-08-2008 03:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TranceAm (Post 74665)
We could reprint them little red booklets of Mao.. I think it worked out pretty well in China on a small scale, didn't it?


hahaha your so right Trance, you rock man.

A New World Order? hell no!! not unless WE the people get to decide what it is exactly we are getting into, we will never be force fed communism but rather awaken to it - dumbfounded.

I honestly don't think our world is ready for us ALL to connect and become a single entity, i always have said "if we could all race to space" ala Star Trek we could silence a hole lot of pain and misery, a world government is a step in the right direction but you mus understand these people want nothing more then power and if they really care for us all i want proof and it better be good.

I don't know how many people would accept a one world government, also, how many people would have to be apart of this one world religion? which is being set up right now so all the light seekers better be 100 times more aware then i am right now - because it is they who will pull the wool over the eyes and use your beliefs to further an agenda.

We all need to be on the same playing field, money needs to be abundant and everyone must have a form of crop.

Why not have a government sponsored grow op? they spend trillions on making missiles why not put it into our agriculture? it would be a wonderful sight to see the children of the earth back planting and picking her with care, she is the most generous giver, she needs alot of care from each of us.

optimistic 11-08-2008 03:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike_Jetson (Post 74674)
NWU

New World Unity

Go ahead and keep accepting the word 'order' Its a nasty word/meaning

I like this.

utopiandreamer 11-08-2008 04:56 PM

Re: We Need a New World Order!
 
Hi to all,

First , i would like to thank all for their honesty , in stating their opinions .
I think that TranceAm , Operator , Deoxyan , Antaletriangle , Arcon and Optimistic should constitute like a council of the " elders " . I also have great respect for the opinions of and others like JohnWdoe , gghglenn , MikeJetson etc...

I have a Question for all of you : What should YOU do if YOU were captain of a boat that is full of people , and if adding a new person aboard could make the boat sink . What would you do ? Yes i am asking , if scientifically it was proven that the world can not sustain more than a certain amount of people , what would be THE solution , without falling into Maoistic or Fascistic schemes .

I really would like an honest answer to this , as i have been searching for an answer for quite a while now without success . We need an answer that does NOT include Population Reduction , fascism or the like .

Thank You in advance for your sincere Opininon.

hueyii 11-08-2008 05:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TranceAm (Post 74665)
We could reprint them little red booklets of Mao.. I think it worked out pretty well in China on a small scale, didn't it?

You could make similar comparisons with any form of govt. That doesnt mean it wouldnt work. The trick is to eliminate the culture of greed.

We are taught to consume, that we need more, more, got to get that latest gadget, need to be in control of everything that annoys us.

Time to un-learn, teach your children the new attitude towards life etc. Think positive.

Knightbk 11-08-2008 05:11 PM

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According to this forum, many of us are going to starve and die in the next 2 or 3 years, so who cares what the NWO is.

TranceAm 11-08-2008 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by utopiandreamer (Post 74749)
Hi to all,

I have a Question for all of you : What should YOU do if YOU were captain of a boat that is full of people , and if adding a new person aboard could make the boat sink . What would you do ? Yes i am asking , if scientifically it was proven that the world can not sustain more than a certain amount of people , what would be THE solution , without falling into Maoistic or Fascistic schemes .

Thank You in advance for your sincere Opinion.

Woohoo, that is a deep question/challenge... I love it.

Gather all info related to the characteristics of the boat, and the number of passengers that want/need to sail.
Then ask if anyone has baggage that is un essential that could be left behind.. (If anyone has more then 'needed' so to speak that could be 'shared' (food/water) and thus make room for that new person.)

Bring it to a vote, whether all passengers want to take the risc for a negative outcome of the 'could' factor.

If not all/none want to take the risc for the "could happen factor", whether anyone want to give up their spot to for example a newborn. A terminal sick person who knows he ain't going to survive the trip anyway.

(Edit: The alternative in the real world at this moment is that the captain has the power of a dictator, who dictates who lives and who dies on what he indicates as reason, while himself standing above the outcome of his own descision.)

-- -----------------------------

To up the challenge can I add on to that question?
.
While the ship is at sea for a while, 2 mothers have a child.. One has already 8 children and lives in the luxury part on top of the boat, with privilege of room bought by money,, for another it is her first child and she squats in the bow where basically no one else can be added. What mother is responsible? And what kid has more rights to life, since the room on board IS limited?

PK47 11-08-2008 05:23 PM

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For Earth to be in a Galactic Family one world government is needed... but what we are seeing currently is that the world is moving more towards fascist one world order of slavery and tyranny..
If enuf ppl wake up to this truth and fight/resist the system than there is a chance of getting world government of peace love and light with galactic diplomacy....

This very challenge to all of us is necessary for our evolution and to transform earth to heaven.. because our freewill cannot be violated.
If ppl stay oblivious to this and continues their daily life without facing this challenge then they will not evolve but will get new world order of total slavery whether they like it or not!!

we have to get rid of these certain factions of corrupt greys and reptilians that are trying to bring worldwide new world Nazism!

Just my two cents! :original:

herbivore 11-08-2008 05:59 PM

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i think anyone can see that the new world order the powers that be are enforcing isn't a positive one. they've always been and always will be bent on power, manipulation, wealth, and dominance.

optimistic 11-08-2008 06:14 PM

Re: We Need a New World Order!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by utopiandreamer (Post 74749)
I have a Question for all of you : What should YOU do if YOU were captain of a boat that is full of people , and if adding a new person aboard could make the boat sink . What would you do ? Yes i am asking , if scientifically it was proven that the world can not sustain more than a certain amount of people , what would be THE solution , without falling into Maoistic or Fascistic schemes .

I really would like an honest answer to this , as i have been searching for an answer for quite a while now without success . We need an answer that does NOT include Population Reduction , fascism or the like .

Thank You in advance for your sincere Opininon.

So easy...

You build a new boat that has room for everyone.

Similarly, you can increase the sustainability of the Earth through green living, sharing (help third world countries instead) and if that doesn't work, start colonizing the moon (publicly :P), terraforming mars, etc.

That's not even considering the use of suppressed technology which would accelerate the process drastically.

ophiuchus 11-08-2008 06:38 PM

Re: We Need a New World Order!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by efields (Post 74657)
What is so wrong with a New World Order? I think it would be great. We have done so well, the way it is now, right? A NWO would be a chance to get Humanity all on the same page. A NWO would be a shot at reducing/eliminating corruption. A NWO could mean, rights for all and an end to Genocide, War, and tyranny.

Of course I understand what is commonly thought by the choir here. But why go there. Why does it have to represent a Draconian 1984? Even if it is brought forward by the PTB, who's to say they will be successful in their attempt to 'control' the machine? A NWO could be their very undoing, having all the 'baddies' in one place, with no one to be a scapegoat. To my vision I think a NWO, is our best bet, at survival. Imagine the Global ramifications in terms of going Green, and an equal share of resources! An end to petty bickering and foolish wars. An end to waste and world hunger. An education for all with one standard and an end to separation. I see it as our only hope. A chance to end NeoCons and hate groups once and for all. I say Bring It On! A NWO is probably what we need for the ET's to be able to feel safe in contacting us! Again I say Bring It On and end Back room Power Deals! One Planet One Rule. All Humans Here, sounds pretty good to me. Rmember we are in control. We could have the 'NWO' of our dreams ! We don't have to be sheeple! Total Transparency!



it's not that the concept is bad, it's that the zionest and teutonic powers that be will have supreme dictatorial power over everything on the planet. it's not a good concept right now, the way things are,world bankers dominating all our lives. if they get their hands around this it will only be more for the worse for no one would ever give up that kind of power,control,wealth,or stature. we can't trust our corrupt government now,could you you imagine if they didn't have to answer to anyone! so i must ask you,"what fairy tale do you come from?"or "what mushrooms have you been eating?" you need an antidote quick. either you are very naive or need to become more informed. sorry.......

Jacqui D 11-08-2008 06:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by efields (Post 74657)
What is so wrong with a New World Order? I think it would be great. We have done so well, the way it is now, right? A NWO would be a chance to get Humanity all on the same page. A NWO would be a shot at reducing/eliminating corruption. A NWO could mean, rights for all and an end to Genocide, War, and tyranny.

Of course I understand what is commonly thought by the choir here. But why go there. Why does it have to represent a Draconian 1984? Even if it is brought forward by the PTB, who's to say they will be successful in their attempt to 'control' the machine? A NWO could be their very undoing, having all the 'baddies' in one place, with no one to be a scapegoat. To my vision I think a NWO, is our best bet, at survival. Imagine the Global ramifications in terms of going Green, and an equal share of resources! An end to petty bickering and foolish wars. An end to waste and world hunger. An education for all with one standard and an end to separation. I see it as our only hope. A chance to end NeoCons and hate groups once and for all. I say Bring It On! A NWO is probably what we need for the ET's to be able to feel safe in contacting us! Again I say Bring It On and end Back room Power Deals! One Planet One Rule. All Humans Here, sounds pretty good to me. Rmember we are in control. We could have the 'NWO' of our dreams ! We don't have to be sheeple! Total Transparency!

I understand what you are saying, we all want change yes, but New World Order!!!!:nono::nono:
Nothing will change all the time we have the same people runing the world.
For change it would mean a massive turn around and i can't see that happening unless some great mass conscieness happens.:wub2:

ophiuchus 11-08-2008 07:03 PM

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here is a great article by dr. henry makow phd. who cites great examples of how and why things are, are getting worse and looks as if things will get only gloomier. your idealism needs to be christened. this is it. http://www.savethemales.ca/. the article is titled,"henry h klein-jewish martyr for american freedom".

Trishsgate 11-08-2008 07:11 PM

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Great thread. My sincere concern is what the leadership will be. Will we be allowed individual freedom to choose our own paths? Will we be allowed freedom from controls that limit or stifle creativity? I really do not like a robotic existence as in everyone fits a particular mold. We can have differences of opinions and still get along this is an essential part in the free flow of information and learning.

This is excellent. :thumb_yello:
quote from hueyii:
The trick is to eliminate the culture of greed.
We are taught to consume, that we need more, more, got to get that latest gadget, need to be in control of everything that annoys us.
Time to un-learn, teach your children the new attitude towards life etc. Think positive.

Excellent question from utopiandreamer :thumb_yello:
Yes i am asking , if scientifically it was proven that the world can not sustain more than a certain amount of people , what would be THE solution , without falling into Maoistic or Fascistic schemes.

My thoughts are let the global community know all the facts on population, educate them on the cause and effect of choices made. If they still determine to have more capacity than we can carry then all of us suffer the consequences. This starts by educating people on their personal responsibility and their choices. One should make this choice based on an individual basis and what a person can truly support. IMHO we should not have more children than we can carry individually and responsibly. Death to me is not an option, making people sick and eliminating them this way is incomprehensible. We live with this until we learn to carry our true load capacity and IMHO the Georgia guidestones, Iron Mountain et al are antiquated and misguided.

A NWO should always be by the global community and not by a select few who choose the governance by deception. Learn to govern your own life all else will fall into place.

Love & Peace
Trish

Dominic 11-08-2008 07:35 PM

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We want our new world, not the ptb's. There NWO is based on satanic, Lucifer beliefs. They have been working on this project for thousands of years. The shift is happening, They will try a few more games before they give up trust me. The shift of power that just happened in Washington will give them the power for a big final push towards their system. It is time to be strong and not accept the projected NWO. It will be offered soon as a fix to all problems.

Peace

371 11-08-2008 07:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by efields (Post 74657)
Why does it have to represent a Draconian 1984?

I appreciate your opinion. However, a little known fact is that the author of 1984- George Orwell- was a big-time player with the NWO advocates of the day. His book was a warning- that one man could bring down the system, so his argument was that as oppressive as 'big brother' was- it wasn't enough.

This information is available in many sources. The one I can reference offhand is "Mind Control, World Control" by Jim Keith.

777 The Great Work 11-08-2008 08:18 PM

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The word government is a trap. It means to govern the mental states of conciousness of the collective masses.

Another play on words :mfr_lol:

efields 11-08-2008 08:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 371 (Post 74885)
I appreciate your opinion. However, a little known fact is that the author of 1984- George Orwell- was a big-time player with the NWO advocates of the day. His book was a warning- that one man could bring down the system, so his argument was that as oppressive as 'big brother' was- it wasn't enough.

This information is available in many sources. The one I can reference offhand is "Mind Control, World Control" by Jim Keith.


As well, a group of men, could raise up the system. Again I believe we are in control and if its the PTB that usher the NWO in give them enough rope and they will hang themselves. I believe once we are all pulled together. We will effectively become more of a power than ANY group who portends to be the 'leader'. We will in effect force the best to raise to the top and the PTB could become powerless in the face of Global Intention for Good, Justice and the Cosmic Good overriding any negative poison. We could 'rise up' and become a Super power Globe and the envy of life hosting planets, Instead of the embarrassment we presently are.. Its all up to us, as it always has been and if we negate our responsibility we deserve the Draconian mess that will ensue. I envision a community of Humanists and Scientists and Doctors running the Earth. Professionals as opposed to Politicians. We need our best minds on this Not power seeking Goons... This Orb is desperately crying out for brilliant management. So far we have been asleep at the wheel. We must rise up to the call, or suffer the consequences and perish. It's all up to us. The most brilliant minds of the Globe, ought be be the Stewards of the Globe and the population the children of the global family. In such a structure the needs of the many could be protected by the few... Raise the Bar and raise the World. Time to get serious. If a Harvest Is coming in 4 years we need to put our best foot forward, for a best outcome for all, not a privileged few... Only undertakings that benefit All should be considered. The priorities adjusted to The most beneficial, to the most of the population, to be the first projects undertaken, et al. In essence to 'fast track' a Planetary Healing. The Greening of the Planet!

371 11-08-2008 09:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by efields (Post 74915)
As well, a group of men, could raise up the system. Again I believe we are in control and if its the PTB that usher the NWO in give them enough rope and they will hang themselves. I believe once we are all pulled together. We will effectively become more of a power than ANY group who portends to be the 'leader'. We will in effect force the best to raise to the top and the PTB could become powerless in the face of Global Intention for Good, Justice and the Cosmic Good overriding any negative poison. We could 'rise up' and become a Super power Globe and the envy of life hosting planets, Instead of the embarrassment we presently are.. Its all up to us, as it always has been and if we negate our responsibility we deserve the Draconian mess that will ensue. I envision a community of Humanists and Scientists and Doctors running the Earth. Professionals as opposed to Politicians. We need our best minds on this Not power seeking Goons... This Orb is desperately crying out for brilliant management. So far we have been asleep at the wheel. We must rise up to the call, or suffer the consequences and perish. It's all up to us. The most brilliant minds of the Globe, ought be be the Stewards of the Globe and the population the children of the global family. In such a structure the needs of the many could be protected by the few... Raise the Bar and raise the World. Time to get serious. If a Harvest Is coming in 4 years we need to put our best foot forward, for a best outcome for all, not a privileged few... Only undertakings that benefit All should be considered. The priorities adjusted to The most beneficial, to the most of the population, to be the first projects undertaken, et al. In essence to 'fast track' a Planetary Healing. The Greening of the Planet!

The only problem with that is that POWER CORRUPTS. IMO at this point even the best intent would become perverted once individuals either gain too much power or there is a power struggle.

Case in point- Project Avalon forums. Great intent, but there's a mess right now because of a clash of personalities. Picture that on a global scale. Sure, things will probably eventually work out, but as far as a NWO/global government- if it fails the WORLD is screwed.

I'm not necessarily against your idea, this is a good discussion to have. I think it's a great idea but would probably just not work in reality at this point in our evolution.

That and the simple fact that what is good for me isn't necessarily good for you. I'm a fan of sovereignty. In the US, just look at the Civil War. It wasn't about slavery- it was about states rights. Try to impose your will on someone and they'll fight back. Even if said will is well-intentioned it can have unintended consequences.

efields 11-08-2008 10:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 371 (Post 74935)
The only problem with that is that POWER CORRUPTS. IMO at this point even the best intent would become perverted once individuals either gain too much power or there is a power struggle.

Case in point- Project Avalon forums. Great intent, but there's a mess right now because of a clash of personalities. Picture that on a global scale. Sure, things will probably eventually work out, but as far as a NWO/global government- if it fails the WORLD is screwed.

I'm not necessarily against your idea, this is a good discussion to have. I think it's a great idea but would probably just not work in reality at this point in our evolution.

That and the simple fact that what is good for me isn't necessarily good for you. I'm a fan of sovereignty. In the US, just look at the Civil War. It wasn't about slavery- it was about states rights. Try to impose your will on someone and they'll fight back. Even if said will is well-intentioned it can have unintended consequences.

Imagine if you will, We have come together. We begin to focus on the most damaged parts of the World. Imagine how quickly, with the entire resources of the world, we apply this mighty force, to bringing relief to those most in need. The World's armies have been converted to legions of builders and craftsman being despatched to those most base areas of neglect to be transformed, into locations of splendor, where moments ago people were living in squalor, now testaments to Humanity, are erected practically overnight. The people of the planet who have been suffering the deepest degradation suddenly restored to a meaningful existence! Imagine if you will regions of hunger and sickness being transformed into fields of abundance Hunger a thing no more. Imagine the agriculture of the planet being lovingly attended by farmers of talent and tech to provide the peoples of the Earth sustenance of a Holistic nature. Armies of millions rebuilding every inch of the planet with all nations sharing whats needed to bring this to fruition. Imagine how Quickly it could be accomplished without budgetary constraints and Ideological separation, with the worlds resources at hand No competition simple cooperation of all the Peoples on earth to bring these issues to completion. what 'fun' this world could be. To sign up for a 2 year commitment to the Creation Army, a worldwide Peace Corp. We could clean this Planet up in no time. I BELIEVE We can do this If we Have the Will!! Simply imagine how proud you could be to be a member of this enterprise. All the recourses now spent for Security converted to a rebuilding platform for the Human Race. I think our Alien Brothers would smile on this. I Know we would. I know I would. I think you would too....

TranceAm 11-09-2008 12:06 AM

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Imagine if you will, We have come together. We begin to focus on the most damaged parts of the World. Imagine how quickly, with the entire resources of the world, we apply this mighty force, to bringing relief to those most in need. The World's armies have been converted to legions of builders and craftsman being despatched to those most base areas of neglect to be transformed, into locations of splendor, where moments ago people were living in squalor, now testaments to Humanity, are erected practically overnight. The people of the planet who have been suffering the deepest degradation suddenly restored to a meaningful existence! Imagine if you will regions of hunger and sickness being transformed into fields of abundance Hunger a thing no more. Imagine the agriculture of the planet being lovingly attended by farmers of talent and tech to provide the peoples of the Earth sustenance of a Holistic nature. Armies of millions rebuilding every inch of the planet with all nations sharing whats needed to bring this to fruition. Imagine how Quickly it could be accomplished without budgetary constraints and Ideological separation, with the worlds resources at hand No competition simple cooperation of all the Peoples on earth to bring these issues to completion. what 'fun' this world could be. To sign up for a 2 year commitment to the Creation Army, a worldwide Peace Corp. We could clean this Planet up in no time. I BELIEVE We can do this If we Have the Will!! Simply imagine how proud you could be to be a member of this enterprise. All the recourses now spent for Security converted to a rebuilding platform for the Human Race. I think our Alien Brothers would smile on this. I Know we would. I know I would. I think you would too....

efields, you are preaching to the choir.. There is NO sane Man or Woman who would disagree with your dream, since everyone would benefit from it evenly....
However, that means that some will lose in the process or perceive loss over benefit of being equals, they will fight it tooth and nail or try to corrupt it, or try to take it over to restore their greed for more at the cost of others..

That is why we need that shift in consciousness. but not mandatory imposed by the people at the top, but on the bottom of the pyramid on a volunatary basis.

Greed has to be perceived for what it is: a disease.. A Mental Disease.

"The slaves are either from other countries or are the Utopian criminals. These criminals are weighed down with chains made out of gold. The gold is part of the community wealth of the country, and fettering criminals with it or using it for shameful things like chamber pots gives the citizens a healthy dislike of it. It also makes it difficult to steal as it is in plain view. The wealth though is of little importance and is only good for buying commodities from foreign nations or bribing these nations to fight each other. Slaves are periodically released for good behaviour.
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efields 11-09-2008 12:22 PM

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The NWO I dream of will come sooner or later or we will be gone. We must make sure its the NWO of our dreams not the dreams of the PTB. This is our mandate...

Lesa, Al & T2 11-09-2008 12:34 PM

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Amen. New World Order sounds great to me. Why not use your enemies stragegy and turn it around! Study what they have done that works and use if for right instead of wrong. One step at a time. Just remember that little old ant. He had high hopes. Let's turn that mountain upside down!

pineal-pilot-in merkabah 11-09-2008 12:51 PM

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NEW WORLD ORDER= very powerful meme.. i dont buy it.. the idea is we are each sovereign humans working in different areas with different goals towards the greater good.. like cells in a human body.. organs and limbs are made of different cells. organs being countires, humans being cells of thise organs. working together to creatge the body which is earth

efields 11-09-2008 12:59 PM

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NEW WORLD ORDER= very powerful meme.. i dont buy it.. the idea is we are each sovereign humans working in different areas with different goals towards the greater good.. like cells in a human body.. organs and limbs are made of different cells. organs being countires, humans being cells of thise organs. working together to creatge the body which is earth

Great Image Yes I agree, but all the cells in the body are on the same page. True we are One organism and we need to all be creating the Body and eliminating Cancer cells whenever we become aware of them. Great analogy. We the Body... This is the NWO of which I dream!

Zenbuoy 11-09-2008 01:08 PM

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The Complete Idiot's Guide to the NWO


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSVDM2LZhOs :wall:


UFOs & the Bible in history & in prophecy-Feature ...from Norval

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...39557136&hl=en :welcomeani:

efields 11-09-2008 02:29 PM

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Seems this place is very full of fear and negativity. Every positive post is answered with Doom and Gloom. To Bad.

sunnyrap 11-09-2008 03:53 PM

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We need more cooperation less fighting between factions, not making one faction that is controlled by one small group. I deplore the homogenization of the beautiful variety and differences between the various cultures on this world. Nearly every one of America's big cities is identical in actual content to another, except for details of the landscape. I would hate the whole world to become like that--which it would. There would be no point in leaving your own community, because all communities would eventually become the same.
All skin colors would eventually melt into one skin color. All clothing become the same clothing and so forth. Pretty soon there is nothing new to experience, no difference to go taste and refresh one's senses. How destructive of life can that get?

The only purpose for a one world order is for a small faction to completely control a large population.

What are the odds any here will be in the less than one percent controlling group rather than the enslaved group? NIL.

sunnyrap 11-09-2008 04:03 PM

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Fractals. Given info posted on other threads and the paucity of new information coming from B&K, even Avalon appears ruled by the same paradigm of a small, secretive group controlling, withholding information from, the larger population, even if they consider they have 'good reason to'. My participation here while this continues will be suspended.

Zenbuoy 11-09-2008 04:26 PM

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Seems this place is very full of fear and negativity. Every positive post is answered with Doom and Gloom. To Bad.

:lightsabre: This is a place of POSITIVE LIGHT infested with negativity.

May you be well. Wishing for something without free will is negativity.
Nothing personal.

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efields 11-09-2008 05:12 PM

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To all the naysayers and all who have sooo many reasons why it will never work, why it can't work and why its silly to consider...

Consider this. With every why we can't thought, you have played into the PTB paradigm. Its as if you were hired by the PTB to keep everyone in the energy of hopelessness. With every, We can't, reason, you have made the PTB so happy that their messages of control have been adapted, even by the Ground Crew. Ah yes, the programmers have done their work well. The PTB have nothing to worry about. Even the opposition has no confidence in their power. They think themselves so helpless and weak that they dare not try to unseat the Status Quo. I put it to all the naysayers that without your support the PTB would have no say whatsoever in our future. Even the Ground Crew has been so Brainwashed that the PTB feel invincible. We are blowing it big time. The PTB could not exist without our tacit support. We have shown just on this thread that their programming has been so successful that the opposition does not even realize they have been programmed. We need to awaken and resume our Mantle of Power that we have had usurped by the PTB ,as if in our sleep. WE MUST AWAKEN. Enough Is Enough. It is as easy to accomplish what I have proposed as it is to give away the store. Easier, Its our CHOICE. Why give them an open hand. Under those conditions, well of course they will win. But by being weak and asleep we have GIVEN them the office. I say No More I say, Enough Sleep. Come together and Create the new world. I hear the words of the Beatles and all the popular music which has been admonishing us to do this Very Thing. Rather than spend all that energy you have, so much in abundance, saying why all the reasons It can never work, spend a little of that Energy on figuring out a way in which it Could Work. Why vote for them with negativity. Break free of their shackles and programs, make believe it could work, even if you can't believe it could, get out of their spell. Create your own paradigm. Create your own reality, not theirs. It's up to us! I can almost see the negative responses coming, no matter, I will Never give in to being asleep. I choose to awaken. God Bless Us All.


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