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sammytray 11-07-2008 05:29 PM

Government to give every american 1,000,000
 
Here is a great idea... mentioned on a talk show by Russell Crow.

Here is how you solve the american debt problem:

Every american citizen (what 300 M or so) should be given 1,000,000. Total government bailout - 300 Million. Wouldn't this kick start the economy? Wouldn't this put the money back to the people instead of the 700 Billion + to the crooks?

Hmmmm :original:

Big difference between 300 Million and 700 Billion +

371 11-07-2008 05:31 PM

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No offense, but that's absurd.

One word: INFLATION.

sammytray 11-07-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 371 (Post 73682)
No offense, but that's absurd.

One word: INFLATION.

Better than Depression?

371 11-07-2008 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sammytray (Post 73683)
Better than Depression?

Same/similar outcome IMO. Too much money= cash becomes worthless.

QueenOfLeon 11-07-2008 05:40 PM

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I think they should just right off everyones mortgage. Give them their house.

simple.

sammytray 11-07-2008 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 371 (Post 73689)
Same/similar outcome IMO. Too much money= cash becomes worthless.

to much money? 300M ? How about 1 - 2 Trillion?

Orion Morris 11-07-2008 05:40 PM

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This is stupid... They dont want to solve the debt problem.... That is why it is here...

they planned it.. Just like they planned Obama...

Ali Quadir 11-07-2008 05:44 PM

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There are only 300 Americans? :mfr_omg:

300 million divided by 1 million each... :zip:

sammytray 11-07-2008 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ali Quadir (Post 73699)
There are only 300 Americans? :mfr_omg:

300 million divided by 1 million each... :zip:

:lmfao:

Okay wait a minute.... 300 million people x 1 million dollars = ?

Orion Morris 11-07-2008 05:49 PM

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oh my god.... This would never happen... They set it up... They dont want a cure... If you gave every American 1 million each they wouldnt show up to work...

Quit this..... Somebody delete this thread

sammytray 11-07-2008 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Orion Morris (Post 73707)
oh my god.... This would never happen... They set it up... They dont want a cure... If you gave every American 1 million each they wouldnt show up to work...

Quit this..... Somebody delete this thread

That is the whole point. Not show up for work.

Orion Morris 11-07-2008 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sammytray (Post 73711)
That is the whole point. Not show up for work.

Ok now I understand.... You are six years old....

If we didnt show up to work then how would that help the economy...
Who would we buy stuff from...
What would we eat...
People have to go to work so we can sustain ourselves...

371 11-07-2008 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sammytray (Post 73711)
That is the whole point. Not show up for work.

Yeah, and make ourselves even poorer...

sammytray 11-07-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Orion Morris (Post 73714)
Ok now I understand.... You are six years old....

If we didnt show up to work then how would that help the economy...
Who would we buy stuff from...
What would we eat...
People have to go to work so we can sustain ourselves...

Hmmm six years old :original:

anyway,

WE DO NOT WANT THIS SYSTEM! Do you? I would like something new that does not include $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - Greed, Corruption, etc...

Seeker Mom 11-07-2008 06:01 PM

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This sounds wonderful. I'd love to be given a million dollars for doing absolutely nothing. Then again, people have killed each other for only a few dollars, so if this happened I'd expect the murder rate to skyrocket in this country. Lots and lots of people would not only want their piece of the pie -- they'd want yours, too. :lmfao:

ralok_j 11-07-2008 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sammytray (Post 73718)
Hmmm six years old :original:

anyway,

WE DO NOT WANT THIS SYSTEM! Do you? I would like something new that does not include $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - Greed, Corruption, etc...

The only way to achieve this system is to completely bankrupt the current.

371 11-07-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sammytray (Post 73680)
Here is a great idea... mentioned on a talk show by Russell Crow.

Easy for him to say, he's frigging rich!

sammytray 11-07-2008 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ralok_j (Post 73721)
The only way to achieve this system is to completely bankrupt the current.

Hmmmm again, it seems that this is what needs to happen. In order to bring change or a "new" system, the "old" must be purged, dissolved and gone. Isnt that what we want? A new system not based on greed and a false currency?

sammytray 11-07-2008 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 371 (Post 73730)
Easy for him to say, he's frigging rich!

Yes he is, and probably lost.

371 11-07-2008 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sammytray (Post 73734)
Isnt that what we want? A new system not based on greed and a false currency?

Yeah but that's not what we'll get....

It's be a new system- based on greed and false currency....

Jnana 11-07-2008 06:24 PM

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If you give 300 million people 1 million dollars each it will cost 300 TRILLION dollars.

If you cut that back to $100,000 for each American that is still 30 trillion dollars.

If you give 300 million people 1 dollar each it will cost 300 million dollars (plus several dollars in processing costs for each check sent!).

The current total US National debt is around 10 trillion dollars. Divided by 300 million that means we each owe around $33,000 dollars to the national debt collection agency.

sammytray 11-07-2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 371 (Post 73737)
Yeah but that's not what we'll get....

It's be a new system- based on greed and false currency....

what do you want 371? Would you still like to use $$$? Doesn't $$$ distract us?

The meek shall inherit the earth

Money holds us into ego and prevents us from "waking up". Take away a mans money then suddenly he listens. :winksmiley02:

sammytray 11-07-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnana (Post 73748)
If you give 300 million people 1 million dollars each it will cost 300 TRILLION dollars.

If you give 300 million people 1 dollar each it will cost 300 million dollars (plus several dollars in processing costs for each check sent!).

right you are :original:

Can you do the math for 100,000 for each american?

There is a point to the thread.

ralok_j 11-07-2008 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sammytray (Post 73734)
Hmmmm again, it seems that this is what needs to happen. In order to bring change or a "new" system, the "old" must be purged, dissolved and gone. Isnt that what we want? A new system not based on greed and a false currency?

We may want this, but the majority may be scared of this. In order to to facilitate the change the current system would have to be exposed and destroyed. People would have to come to the realization that money, material goods, and consumption are the tools that caused the failure. But would this be positive? What if we, as a race, lost the desire or ability to continue medical research and treatment? What if our life spans decreased to an average of 50 years?

Orion Morris 11-07-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sammytray (Post 73753)
right you are :original:

Can you do the math for 100,000 for each american?

There is a point to the thread.

You cant even do math....
You obvously never even thought about the concept of what your saying...
You have contridicted yourself....

First your are saying give us money... Then we dont need money...
:shocked:

woodshreder 11-07-2008 06:34 PM

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This is as I have explained on a previous post Admitted to me by the office of Kucinich via a telephone converstion an actual option to our crisis
http://www.nesara.us/pages/home.html
Peace Love Light

Truth voice 2012 11-07-2008 06:36 PM

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I agree with both sides here in some way. I too want to be rid of the monetary system also (because its a control system like all the others) however, Ive my brain twisted in a knot trying to think of ways of how it could work and for the life of me I cant think of anyway it could be possible. We are so conditioned at this stage now that our brains havent the neural capacity to create new pathways to see things differently. Oh well, NWO: 1,
humans: 0 on this one. :tears:

sammytray 11-07-2008 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ralok_j (Post 73755)
We may want this, but the majority may be scared of this. In order to to facilitate the change the current system would have to be exposed and destroyed. People would have to come to the realization that money, material goods, and consumption are the tools that caused the failure. But would this be positive? What if we, as a race, lost the desire or ability to continue medical research and treatment? What if our life spans decreased to an average of 50 years?

Well put,

Are you saying why can't we have a smmmmooooth transition?

Are we aware of a possible DNA transformation/enlightenment that will occur, thus allowing for the "new Paradigm" - ?

Maybe we as a race will "evolve" into beings who can heal?

sammytray 11-07-2008 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by woodshreder (Post 73761)
This is as I have explained on a previous post Admitted to me by the office of Kucinich via a telephone converstion an actual option to our crisis
http://www.nesara.us/pages/home.html
Peace Love Light

This is interesting... no comment. :original:

sammytray 11-07-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by woodshreder (Post 73761)
This is as I have explained on a previous post Admitted to me by the office of Kucinich via a telephone converstion an actual option to our crisis
http://www.nesara.us/pages/home.html
Peace Love Light

Well yes... a comment

How does this help the "awakening" and being prepared for "new" cycles so that we can collectively bring on the "new Paradigm". I am certain Nesara teaches nothing about "who" we are and "what" we can "BE" or "BECOME"

sammytray 11-07-2008 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnana (Post 73748)
If you give 300 million people 1 million dollars each it will cost 300 TRILLION dollars.

If you cut that back to $100,000 for each American that is still 30 trillion dollars.

If you give 300 million people 1 dollar each it will cost 300 million dollars (plus several dollars in processing costs for each check sent!).

The current total US National debt is around 10 trillion dollars. Divided by 300 million that means we each owe around $33,000 dollars to the national debt collection agency.

You are right again,

Actually we already have about 35k on each americans head owed to foreign nations. -

Okay how about 20,000 to each american :original:

ralok_j 11-07-2008 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sammytray (Post 73767)
Well put,

Are you saying why can't we have a smmmmooooth transition?

Are we aware of a possible DNA transformation/enlightenment that will occur, thus allowing for the "new Paradigm" - ?

Maybe we as a race will "evolve" into beings who can heal?

You can't have a smooth transition. People would have to be beaten up enough to want to transition to something new. They would have to have lost all faith in our current system and have such resentment for it that a new bartering type of system would be a welcomed approach.

Now if we did transform into higher beings and were able to self heal, we wouldn't need our current system. :wink2:

371 11-07-2008 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sammytray (Post 73752)
what do you want 371? Would you still like to use $$$? Doesn't $$$ distract us?

Yes, and yes.

Considering I don't have any, yes I would like to have money to use. Does money distract us, yes- whether trying to get it or get more of it, and it does bring out the worst in people.

But a cashless society- hell no I don't want that!!

ralok_j 11-07-2008 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 371 (Post 73787)
But a cashless society- hell no I don't want that!!

Interesting. Can you elaborate on why?

371 11-07-2008 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sammytray (Post 73777)
Okay how about 20,000 to each american :original:


I appreciate your opinion, but I still disagree. That's what they tried to do with the Bush 'stimulus' thing.

Any amount of money- whether for the wealthy businessman or the crackhead on the street- people are going to do with it what they will- help THEMSELVES. Whether to buy another oak desk or another crack rock, most people won't use it to improve their quality of life and will be in the same situation as before a few months down the road.

It's a band-aid solution.

Orion Morris 11-07-2008 07:08 PM

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This is stupid! It has no point.... If you want to get rid of the system then quit talking about money... The original post is totally illogical and would NEVER happen... This is a waste of our time!

371 11-07-2008 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ralok_j (Post 73790)
Interesting. Can you elaborate on why?

Sure, IMO a cashless society (at least in the near future) wouldn't be like where everyone shares and it's a utopia.

It would be like what the PTB are trying to do with RFID chips that deduct credits from your personal account when you buy something. These 'credits' are what you get paid for working, etc. except they only 'exist' in some central computer. Meaning you have to go through an intermediary for person-to-person transactions, so EVERYTHING is monitored. And if you run afoul of the PTB, they can 'shut off' your chip and you can't purchase goods, sevices, and are pretty much screwed...

sammytray 11-07-2008 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 371 (Post 73795)
I appreciate your opinion, but I still disagree. That's what they tried to do with the Bush 'stimulus' thing.

Any amount of money- whether for the wealthy businessman or the crackhead on the street- people are going to do with it what they will- help THEMSELVES. Whether to buy another oak desk or another crack rock, most people won't use it to improve their quality of life and will be in the same situation as before a few months down the road.

It's a band-aid solution.

I agree 100% - that answer was for a previous post that was to say just what you said without saying it. :mfr_lol:

Ralok- is hitting on some key points.

I am sending abundance your way 371. It might not be in the form of cash though :thumb_yello:

sammytray 11-07-2008 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Orion Morris (Post 73799)
This is stupid! It has no point.... If you want to get rid of the system then quit talking about money... The original post is totally illogical and would NEVER happen... This is a waste of our time!

comon now Morris.... it was meant for contemplation, which brings in discussions of merit. Sorry to offend you. Nothing is a waste of time.

sammytray 11-07-2008 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 371 (Post 73800)
Sure, IMO a cashless society (at least in the near future) wouldn't be like where everyone shares and it's a utopia.

It would be like what the PTB are trying to do with RFID chips that deduct credits from your personal account when you buy something. These 'credits' are what you get paid for working, etc. except they only 'exist' in some central computer. Meaning you have to go through an intermediary for person-to-person transactions, so EVERYTHING is monitored. And if you run afoul of the PTB, they can 'shut off' your chip and you can't purchase goods, sevices, and are pretty much screwed...

371, what is your "IDEAL" situation WITHOUT these systems you talk about. Maybe then it would help with the "new Paradigm" of experience. :thumb_yello:


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