Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz (Post 70289)

I voted for the crispy cream donut and Starbucks...

mmmmmmmmmm:tongue2:

Originally Posted by herbivore (Post 70282)

noam chomsky goes into great detail of how the sheeple came to be in Manufacturing Consent. If you haven't seen it yet, it's time you should

Originally Posted by Shellie (Post 70371)

I am voting and I an taking my children along with me so they can see what it was like to have a say in something. They are aware that things aren't as they learn in school, but I want to be an example for them to at least learn to seize whatever opportunity they get instead of being constantly apathetic and whiny about everything and letting others make decisions for them. This is one way to speak up; certainly no one is listening, but at least we are speaking up.

Will my vote matter? No. We are choosing different wings from the same bird, AGAIN. This state is leaning heavily to one side, so my one vote won't matter much. And both the candidates are paid for and propped up by NWO thugs. But maybe my kids one day will sit down at the dinner table twenty years from now and one will say "Do you remember when...?"

America is an experiment. A lot of garbage has gotten in the way of this experiment and has ruined it. But the experiment itself is not a failure. I choose to still believe in the ideas this country was built upon. Just because people became lazy and comfortable and didn't pay attention and stop what is happening doesn't mean that when this empire falls it can't be replanted. Our 200 years are up. This country can collapse into a heap, but the NATION (people with the same ideals) I hope will still be here. The land will still be here. If we forget it, or if we forget the strength and the courage the founding fathers had, then we are done for. The rug has been ripped out from under us, so now is our chance to stand up and fix what is wrong. The system is collapsing out from under us. I can't think of a better time to re-think and recreate the world we want to live in. But we have to take that world past our front doors. We have to get it out of our heads.

BTW, I'm writing in George Carlin. The guy may be dead but I can't think of anyone more worthy to be President, even if he thinks the experiment is a joke.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=pUM9l-obnrw

Originally Posted by Kahunamahalo (Post 70506)

Good for you and well said. And for those who do not do their civic duty, you should have no say in anything about our country.

Originally Posted by OMG (Post 70229)

Warning!

Voters are mindless sheeple and doing exactly what the illuminati wishes.

If you want to make change - then LIVE it - don't GIVE it (away)!

:mfr_omg:

Note: They wouldn't allow me to post this until now - obviously too late for many.

Originally Posted by OMG (Post 70229)

Originally Posted by herbivore (Post 70589)

wow you guys have a lot of negative things to say, that's not very enlightened of you. we all know 'sheeple' are the majority of the population and they dominate the majority of the votes in elections. independent and green parties get such a minuscule amount of support in comparison to the democratic and republican parties already, if i wrote my choice for president it would be useless, a waste of time effort energy and resources.

of course this whole scenario is assuming that there is no voter fraud. :mfr_lol:

Originally Posted by herbivore (Post 70633)

excuse me Kahunamahalo, maybe instead of condescendingly calling me a child you could debate my point?

the term "sheeple" is synonymous with the unawakened souls, that should be obvious.

IMO, if you vote third party you're not putting a dent in anything. let's be real here, voting third party is like voting in a different election. it's all the dem and rep parties.

can someone explain to me the logic behind thinking a vote towards a third party (or any other non dem & rep party for this matter) will cancel the vote of someone else? how exactly does that work? are you saying because i vote Luke Skywalker, some vote somewhere for someone other than Luke disappears? say 500,000,000 vote, half dem and half rep, and my 1 vote goes for Luke and the rebellion. my vote doesn't cancel out anything because it's for a third party and therefore not nearly on the level of the democratic or republican votes.

Originally Posted by Kelphi (Post 70637)

herb,

Put the pipe down for a moment and rethink what you just said.