Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

Also, let us know if you plan on staying if the forum becomes a paid subscription forum.
This poll will help us understand how a paid subscription service
will affect the Avalon forum.

Thanks,
Kevin - Project Avalon Spiritual Mediator

Re: Will you leave when the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

Why make it subscription, surely knowledge should pass freely?

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I could afford to pay but out of principal for those who could not I would have to vote against subscriptions.

Would I leave? Great question but I cannot say.

If some other system of funding could be found hopefully we would never have to discriminate against people because of their inability to pay. This kind of information should be free to all.

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If there is an expense to hosting the forum. Then charge to offset the exspenses.

This is not about withholding information that is free via Camelot.

If people are actually interested in preparing, contacting folks, etc... it is worth it.

Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

WE ALL would LEAVE and just open a NEW ONE :naughty:

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I am sorry to say that i would leave if/when avalon becomes a pay site, I see no point in paying for info i can just as easily get for free.

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I love Project Avalon. I have awoken SO SO much and learned so much. Unfortunately, I have to feed my child before paying for any forum/website and I think it will make allot of people leave, newcomers who don't know what this is about wouldn't even enter, and you might lose over 50% of the people who aready come here..
I would sadly have to leave too. :(

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I agree. it's not hard to create a website and this forum is run off a basic template, so the only money it would cost to run this site is paying for server space or buying your own server. with that said if the majority of the people on this site payed a fee even a small one it would be way more than enough to keep the site going.

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I think I might have to...I don't have a credit card.... I have a debit card only and anything else thats payable on line normaly doesn't accept a debit card? What playment method would you be using? In princepal I think it's bettter as a free forum but if you need to cover running costs I understand
Antonia:original:

Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

According to this poll, it looks like that many members may leave the forum. Please continue the poll. And tell us why you think Avalon should be free.

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I wouldnt leave, in fact it would give me more of an incentive to stay.

Being an open forum, anyone no matter who they are can come on and post. Now there are people out there who get a kick out of making waves, this is just a fact.

This forum has a specific mission, and if anyone feels dedicated enough to be part of this mission then surely they can prove this by paying a small fee to be a part of it. Its not so much about the money more then how serious people are taking this place.

These are serious times after all.

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i love these forums, I am on every day ... but i don't even have enough money to pay attention half the time let alone pay extra to be on a forum

I think it would be rather unfair to the ones on a bigtime budget:thumbdown:
Why I think it should be free? well i think if any info where to be given it should be given to all. I could somewhat understand if it where a book and need the money and i am sure that P.C. needs the money, but what of the folks who are loyal to these boadrs and have no money to give.

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This is a tough one. Paying for it would probably keep the dis information out, but also potential new members. I would pay a sub, but not until the forum settles and "finds" itself. I feel that there are intentional dis informers, but this is due to the fact that most of the people in here are very aware and have pretty awesome info to share, if it was irellevant, then the wreckers wouldnt bother. I (like many) have been interested in an alternative way of life since I was a child, but man I've learned some amazing stuff in here, not least about myself. I thank you all :thumb_yello:

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i have paid a donation to cameloit paypal. i put anote saying could it be earmarked for avalon.. im assuming there is a running cost for this site. those who say they would leave the site can they afford to open another one?? id pay but i think that paypal will go bust. means of money transfer online will implode when the baks implode.. internet 2 will see sites like this with alternate political veiws banned.. ill donate to camelot while we still have the internet in its current form. i think it will be gone in 6 months and internet 2 will be in its place.. anyone else have more info?? id say strike whilst thge iron is hot and use it while we go it..

Re: Will you leave when the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

If there was a Paypal link, I'm sure that people may be willing to donate a bit of money towards maintaining the forums and the main websites.

I think this may work better than a paid subscription service. I'm not sure it's worth paying to access this forum right now with the negativity in certain areas.

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It should be free but with the ability for individuals to donate money via Paypal for operating expenses.

Again, unless the content approves, I don't think it would make sense to charge money for people to view.

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I'd probably leave as the only 'extra' I can pay for at this time is internet.

If I could, I probably still wouldn't.... I support the cause, but I try not to pay for what I can get/do on my own for free, in general. If I could afford it, I would definetly however make a donation.

But my biggest concern if this were to become a paid forum and as a result membership went waayy down- a lot of junk and disinfo might be filtered out but the forum could begin to operate within a vacuum. There's a thin line between being tight-knit and living in a bubble. But that problem would be a ways down the road if it were in fact to occur.

Diversity is important, for better or worse... and very many people have undoubtedly began to 'wake up' as a result of PC and this forum is a continuation of that.

If costs need to be covered then I totally understand, if I cannot participate any longer than I am grateful for what I have learned so far on this forum.

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Provided the cost wasn't beyond my means, I wouldn't leave. :no: The best things in life are free - but maybe the vital things might cost a smidgen. I obviously can't speak for anyone else, but I'd be prepared to pay a little more to subsidise those who could't afford the price. :original:

Has any thought been given to merchandizing? How much would members be prepared to pay for products like say, baseball caps, coffee mugs, pens and so on, with the Avalon or Camelot name and logo printed on them? :original:

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I'm not sure if im alone on this one, but this forum is absolutely full of fluff. Maybe 10percent of the posts here are anything i would call usefull. Its the same kinda stuff that goes on in other forums, they post loads and loads of fluff so that you gotta really dig to get to the good stuff. A good example of this in full swing is Godlikeproudctions forum.

Cencsorship sucks big time, but lies and disinformation should be censored. People should only be allowed to post truth and that which is deemed benificial, i know this seems like a constricting idea but think about it. If there was only truth and constructive material posted then we would be going in a truthfull positive direction. Right now avalon is stalled.

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I think there are other avenues that can be explored to generate some income for the site to cover costs. I'm all for win/win situations. I'm not against advertising if it works for the equality of the community.

I think it would be too disruptive, I've seen other forums self destruct when there are closed sections which stagnate and the flow is inward only. It creates secrecy (PC <---> PA) and inevitably elitism which would be, in my thinking, the opposite of what Avalon is trying to achieve.

I think it would be a measure of goodwill for Avalon to be free and also put to rest the concern that there was some hidden agenda, not that I believe that to be true.

Also it might be a reason that participation might have slowed--people realized that the forum would become off limits--so stopped visiting because it's future wasn't one where they were included.

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Hi,

Experience tells me that things go wrong when money gets involved.
I am sure costs are there and real, it will be difficult however to spread it equally over all members (there are so many).

Maybe I am too optimistic about this but ...
How about posting which costs are there to cover and let members decide freely to donate to see for themselves their
responsibility to keep this operation going ?

So show which amount is short for which date, or which extension is required and leave members responsible to meet
the resulting financial requirements.

Cheers

Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

I'll be gone!!!

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http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/p...pictureid=4370Bringing money into the situation; not here surely!-it's everywhere else and we talk about communities and alternative currency ,helping each other then this is proposed-i would give something to the forum in help like images/photos etc. but currency, finance??I'm a little confused now.I am a giver but i don't understand what is required here,i don't use credit cards for starters-i'm out of that race.

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I would be personally against a fee, why would I give money to put out some serious or vital information only to be drowned out by someone giving advice on how to hug a tree to make the bad men go away?

Paying a fee would mean that those with a more dark nature could flood the forum and spread all sorts of disinformation and you would be unable to counter their argument.

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I personally do alot more reading than posting, but I for one would be gone for sure if this goes to a paid subscription for one reason:
I was reading a thread a while back regarding firearms as being an item to have in preparedness. Really interesting, until the thread was shut down because "we don't condone guns".
Thats fine and all since its their site and its free. But if it goes to a pay basis, I think it should be a forum of the people. And if people want to talk about firearms, they should have right without being shutdown.
But I seriously doubt those types of rules would change.

My 2 cents.

Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

If I could pay with a laser card or possibly make a bank transfer then I'd stay.
I don't have a credit card, nor do I use paypal.

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Is that true? Guns don't kill...people kill.

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Charge for truth? Come on now.

Well if your going to charge for seeking the truth and reporting back to us that would be worthy of charge. I'd pay.

But if you've got truth all figured out and feel the need to charge for it, well that sounds like your getting organized. What a minute, are you guys starting a church?

Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

Some people want to remain undetected on forums like Avalon as credit cards track the identity of users.

I agree with a paypal donation system giving members the choice

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There has been an explosion of activity in the last 2 months with copious amounts of information shared. IMO a sliding scale of useful information, resources and links vs personal opinions will adjust to the latter in the next coming months so people may not want to pay for another's opinion..just like mine right now

:original:

Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

I will leave to.

I can pay but i will not because Bill & Kerry say they want their info for free in most interviews.

But i think this will keep away the people who post disinfo and bullocks.
But then again what are mods for, deleting disinfo and bullocks :)

So i hope it stays free, but it is your domain do what u feel is right.

Peace.

Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

I want it to stay free.

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Ditto on the idea of opening a paypal account for voluntary donations.
I know allot of independent sites/news don't charge for subscription but they ask for donations in order to keep funding their service since they are non-for-profit but at least then we have the choice.
When we can and want, we can donate and when we can't, we still can be a part of this.

Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

As an aside, I notice that all the objectors to paying a fee are looking at what information they get out of the forum. I have not noticed anyone voice an opinion on what information they can contribnute to the forum. :nono:

Strikes me that they are a bunch of takers and not givers. :thumbdown:

Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

whenever you are asked for money, raise your eyebrows..... because it´s not a good thing at all.

Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

Please don't refer about my sexual peferences again.....:tongue2:

Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

First, I just want to say, if the PTB here need funds to keep the site going, then I say its time to pony up. If the people who run this site need money and want to pursue the posters here to get it, I say go ahead. As the poster says in in the first episode of Futurama, "you gotta' do what you gotta' do."

Secondly, it is not a matter of "will I leave," so much as it is "I have no choice." I cannot contribute moniterily under subscription rules. But I bear no ill will - I'll still come and read every now and again, and I wish all here, Bill and Kerry, and our friends beyond the behind, good will and happy future.

Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?
 

I've advocated, several times, for firearms on my "For Survivors Eyes Only" thread - its been here for over a month, and the mods haven't cut it off.

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OOPS! :sorry: I didn't mean to expose you :naughty: