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yotta 10-28-2008 11:45 PM

Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
All:

I hope that everyone is well. I'm curious of the political spread here at Avalon and Camelot. My personal hope is that there is a fairly equal spread among us as far as political stance, as it would be a pretty powerful thing to see all "parties" here. I've always been curious of whether alternative thinkers like us exist across the board in terms of political affiliation. Of course, there is no right or wrong answer. Answer if you wish. :original: I realize this is directed primarily to US members here, but feel free to chime in wherever you are!

Best wishes,

Y.

Orion11 10-28-2008 11:48 PM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
hi yotta,

I elect you, yotta! you already sound years wiser than anyone we get handed.

so, I am electing you. :)

Hope you are well, to. :wub2:

ctophil 10-28-2008 11:54 PM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
I'm voting for Yahushua--the Son of Yahweh. Voting for a man, woman, reptilian, or whatever you are can lead to death and destruction in this world. Yahushua is coming shortly to bring the Kingdom of Heaven, and he will take over the United States or whatever it's called in 3 - 4 years. Oh, take over the world too. :) I don't really need to vote for him though. Because he will rule the Earth regardless of my input.

-Phillip

AndyH 10-28-2008 11:57 PM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
If I was American and if Cynthia McKinney was a choice I'd vote for her seeing as Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are no longer in it. TBH from what I've seen, they seem to be the only 3 real human beings left in govt.

yotta 10-29-2008 12:00 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyH (Post 64183)
If I was American and if Cynthia McKinney was a choice I'd vote for her seeing as Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are no longer in it. TBH from what I've seen, they seem to be the only 3 real human beings left in govt.


I actually thought of adding Ron Paul as he is rumored to be on the Louisiana ballot. Of all of them, he would be my choice because he has the guts to stand up to the PTB and he has the plan that makes the most sense.

Orion11 10-29-2008 12:03 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ctophil (Post 64178)
I'm voting for Yahushua--the Son of Yahweh. Voting for a man, woman, reptilian, or whatever you are can lead to death and destruction in this world. Yahushua is coming shortly to bring the Kingdom of Heaven, and he will take over the United States or whatever it's called in 3 - 4 years. Oh, take over the world too. :) I don't really need to vote for him though. Because he will rule the Earth regardless of my input.

-Phillip


and this is what ruins a good forum for real topics.

Sorry but its true. :sleep_1:

gordon 10-29-2008 12:04 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
I was one of those Australian's who DID vote for Australia becoming a republic, so I quess I choose John McCain. John McCain (and the republics) should be the next president of the United States of America. God Bless John McCain and the United States of America.

mntruthseeker 10-29-2008 12:06 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Cynthia McKinney gets my vote seeing as Dennis and Ron are not on the balot.

OMG we needed her running alot longer. You know Obama only brings his little followers to all the conerts and the all the people that buy his hype

gordon 10-29-2008 12:13 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
I am shocked!!! :mfr_omg::mfr_omg::mfr_omg: The American people have forgotten about a hot babe who should be for President! Jeri Ryan, wow! (And I still remember those scenes from StarTrek when she, (7 of 9) was naked!!!

Luigis Mushroom 10-29-2008 12:15 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
I think our elective system is a joke, but those who don't vote are no better off than those who can't vote. WHile I'd like to vote for somebody like Bob Barr or Ron Paul if he ws still in it, I don't think Barack Obama is a bad choice for the leader of the U.S. I think Sarah Palin is absolutely crazy, but part of me also thinks that she's not part of the system and that she's more of an ideologue trying to stroke her ego. Barack Obama spent his whole life being groomed to be a leader, and he was influenced by some very radical thinkers. There's no doubt he was approved by the system to be our next leader, which begs one to wonder if this change is just going to be authoritarian interjection under the guise of helping the people. However, part of me thinks he just wants to serve the country.

Here's the best Barack Obama video ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq8Uc5BFogE

JoshG_528hz 10-29-2008 12:20 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
come on now. it still baffles me that people actually believe mainstream candidates (republicans/democrats) are any different from one another, let alone "fit" for the job. they are told what to say. they are told how to act. I bet they even think the power given to them is their own. it's a sad situation. i have never and will never vote for a 'republicrat'. if i were to vote, which i am not doing because i don't believe my vote counts, i would write in Ron Paul (he's not a republicrat).

I vote for freedom.
I vote for happiness.
I vote for peace.
I vote for love.

sfth13 10-29-2008 12:24 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyH (Post 64183)
If I was American and if Cynthia McKinney was a choice I'd vote for her seeing as Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are no longer in it. TBH from what I've seen, they seem to be the only 3 real human beings left in govt.

Cynthia McKinney is on the ballot with Rosa Clemente for the Green Party. There is actually 13 choices for President on the ballot. Not to mention the write-in

yotta 10-29-2008 12:35 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshG_528hz (Post 64213)
come on now. it still baffles me that people actually believe mainstream candidates (republicans/democrats) are any different from one another, let alone "fit" for the job. they are told what to say. they are told how to act. I bet they even think the power given to them is their own. it's a sad situation. i have never and will never vote for a 'republicrat'. if i were to vote, which i am not doing because i don't believe my vote counts, i would write in Ron Paul (he's not a republicrat).

I vote for freedom.
I vote for happiness.
I vote for peace.
I vote for love.

While I also think mainstream politics is severely flawed, it is still reality that one of these two candidates will take the throne. Whether we like it or not, all of us will be subject to the winning administration. Many people I know say that they are voting for what they believe is the lesser of two "evils". I appreciate that point of view.

sebring1963 10-29-2008 12:40 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
looks like Sarahs' choice is made up

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14011708.html

sfth13 10-29-2008 12:42 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yotta (Post 64230)
While I also think mainstream politics is severely flawed, it is still reality that one of these two candidates will take the throne. Whether we like it or not, all of us will be subject to the winning administration.

Don't forget the House and the Senate along with the administration.

GregorArturo 10-29-2008 12:50 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
I asked that today on the phone to another Project Avalon member, and we both said we weren't voting. And look at the poll, hell ya! If you're gonna vote, Ron Paul is your best choice. However, I think it's a more powerful statement, especially among your peers, even more if your respected as an intellect (in all honesty, we're all intellects :p but if you're a college professor, thats a BIG statement), that you're not voting.

GoingToFast 10-29-2008 12:52 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ctophil (Post 64178)
yahushua--the son of yahweh.

Gesuntheit.

THE BEST GUY 10-29-2008 12:53 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
my vote

http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/...nal-poster.jpg

Orion11 10-29-2008 12:56 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gordon (Post 64190)
I was one of those Australian's who DID vote for Australia becoming a republic, so I quess I choose John McCain. John McCain (and the republics) should be the next president of the United States of America. God Bless John McCain and the United States of America.


:lmfao:

unreal

Dantheman62 10-29-2008 01:03 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoingToFast (Post 64252)
Gesuntheit.

HaHa, you're funny!, made me laugh!

Tuza 10-29-2008 01:30 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Into what!

Reunite 10-29-2008 01:41 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Where is the option to vote for Council on Foreign Relations, buildabergers or Trilateral Commission?

:nono:

Tuza 10-29-2008 01:46 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Oh you mean for anti-psychotic meds. Arcora has a link for that.:original:

yotta 10-29-2008 01:54 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Thanks to those who have participated in the poll so far! So far, we have evidence that we are *all* here. I will say that I think its important for all of us to respect differing political views. At the end of the day, we are here on this forum - which means that even though we may agree or disagree on the political front, we all have similar interests in the "big picture".

All the best,

Y.

peaceandlove 10-29-2008 02:04 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
:boat: I vote for Freedom, Peace and Prosperity TOO!

But really, if you feel like making a statement and are interested in voting for one of the Third Party Candidates, then check out this post at Project Camelot:

Off-Topic: Is a Third Party Vote a Wasted Vote? (text by Chuck Baldwin)
Comments welcome there on any of the Third Party Candidates.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5658


In case anyone is interested, RON PAUL is endorsing CHUCK BALDWIN of the Constitution Party. http://constitutionparty.com and http://baldwin08.com


http://campaignforliberty.com


BLESS 'EM ALL, especially Ron Paul

Orion11 10-29-2008 02:54 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Oh you mean for anti-psychotic meds. Arcora has a link for that.
lol :)

freekatz 10-29-2008 03:02 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
If I could vote in this country I would write in Dennis Kucinich - no other choice as far as I'm concerned. The only one I know who actually walks the talk and practices what he preaches, fabulous voting record.

Dennis 2012!!!:thumb_yello:

14all 10-29-2008 03:21 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Either Mckinney or Nader (if this even matters), not sure yet....

man_is_the_bastard 10-29-2008 03:29 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peaceandlove (Post 64356)
:boat: I vote for Freedom, Peace and Prosperity TOO!

But really, if you feel like making a statement and are interested in voting for one of the Third Party Candidates, then check out this post at Project Camelot:

Off-Topic: Is a Third Party Vote a Wasted Vote? (text by Chuck Baldwin)
Comments welcome there on any of the Third Party Candidates.
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5658


In case anyone is interested, RON PAUL is endorsing CHUCK BALDWIN of the Constitution Party. http://constitutionparty.com and http://baldwin08.com


http://campaignforliberty.com


BLESS 'EM ALL, especially Ron Paul

yeah, it's a shame the only honest candidate running for this year's election was silenced by big business corporation and news networks. yeah, even if he was the epitome for capitalism, he was our only closest candidate that endorsed true freedom. the others just completely disregard the constitution.
i mean, i would think our Founding Fathers would have been on our side don't you think?

371 10-29-2008 03:43 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Sarah Palin is a Fundamentalist:yikes:..... nuff said.

MAP 10-29-2008 04:10 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebring1963 (Post 64235)
looks like Sarahs' choice is made up

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-14011708.html

:lmao::naughty::lmao::naughty::lol3::roftl:

PS im not voting..

logic 10-29-2008 08:53 AM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
You should vote and you want to know why, simple!
Just in case
What if Illuminati is a hoax and Obama is just a regular selfish politican as Mc cain but less corrupt.

GregorArturo 10-29-2008 03:11 PM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by logic (Post 64582)
You should vote and you want to know why, simple!
Just in case
What if Illuminati is a hoax and Obama is just a regular selfish politican as Mc cain but less corrupt.

Obama and McCain both voted on the bailout. Now, if you do some research you can understand how the bailout in it's essence DESTROYS the U.S. financial system. Since the U.S. started pumping in money to the financial markets, which I estimate at the moment is $1.2 trillion, most of it comes off of the printing press. Very little is actual loans from else where, as no one has the money! China is one of the few countries with serious surplus, but they've already loaned so much money to the U.S.

Let's just say they only printed off the printing press the $700 billion. Our money supply is roughly $7 trillion, that means a 10% inflation increase, also on top of our current inflation. That means your dollar eventually will be worth 90 cents when the 'real inflation' catches up.

Inflation will reach a point where countries like China and Saudi Arabia call in their treasury notes so they don't lose money from their investments (Inflation out runs the interest). And then a hyperinflation depression.

THE CANDIDATES KNOW THIS. THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE ARE NOT IDIOTS. THE PRESIDENT IS NOT AN IDIOT. ECONOMICS IS NOT QUANTUM PHYSICS (in terms of complexity).

historycircus 10-29-2008 03:29 PM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Niether.

Obama, much like Jimmy Carter, is going to ride a wave of popular sentiment to office - not so much an enthusiasm for what he brings to the table, so much as a rejection of the last eight years. Voters are going to the polls with pitch forks this year, much like in 2006. We will end up with a one term Senator who's only real connections are in Hollywood and Illinois. He may suffer the same fate as Jimmy Carter - although Obama will have both houses of Congress under his belt on day one, and for at least two years.

Nadar, probably a good guy and supreme corporate watchdog, doesn't have a chance - heck, he's not even on the ballot in all fifty states. Plus, have you seen him lately? He makes John McCain look like a youthful lion.

While nobody is really going to the polls with an axe to grind with McCain, he's gonna' get stabbed by the pitchforks mentioned above. His star rose eight years ago, and Bush crushed it. But when you are running against mobsters like Guilianni and cultists like Romney, you will get the nomination.

Jim Webb, current governor of Virginia, should be at the helm of our nation right now. Read a book called "The Nightinggale's Song." Given his history with the Navy, given what we know about the Office of Naval Intelligence, given the wise words Webb speaks every time he gets in front of a microphone, I would speculate that he is a guy that knows a lot of stuff about what we discuss here, and genuinely cares for the human condition.

alternative-answer 10-29-2008 04:57 PM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
The looming US elections will not be an opportunity for change, both Obama and McCain are place men, they are chosen to keep the agenda going. Presidents are not elected, they are chosen, not by the people by the unseen power that controls the whole political landscape all over the world. It is the same here, golden boy Blair and now golden boy Cameron being pushed forward as the only viable leader after the destruction of Gordon Brown. Character assination is the biggest weapon to be able to effect change. If you want someone removed who present obstacles to the global agenda smear their character, dig some dirt, dirt they were probably lulled into previously which is now being used against them. They are all pawns in the game, mere commodities to be used and then discarded when they no longer serve a need.... Keeping it real!!!

Tara 10-29-2008 05:13 PM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Does anyone think things would be different today if Bush was not selected??
Check out the cost of the Iraq war. People want to bitch about socialism, but this is ok?

http://zfacts.com/p/447.html

Not to mention the lives that would have been spared.

http://www.icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx

How about George Bush signing statements giving him the power to disregard the constitution, and the law in general? And your worried about your gun rights? (By the way, I support gun rights)

http://www.abanet.org/media/releases/news072406.html
http://www.coherentbabble.com/signin...s/TOCindex.htm

There is a difference between the two parties. It may be slight, but it's enough for me. If we all want change and we want to toss both parties out, then we sure need to work a hell of a lot harder towards that goal, and long before the election. How about the American Peoples party? I know that both parties are corporately owned with an agenda. I get it. There is however, a lesser of these two evils. George Bush did come in to office as a previous oil executive along with Rice and Cheney. Cheney has made millions on this war. Haliburton stock has soared over the last 8 yrs. (well maybe not today with current economic situation ). I think Clinton was the best republican president ever, which made me vote for crazy Ross Perot. If you think voting 3rd party, not at all, or for McCain is going to help our current situation, thanks in advance for what I think will be great potential for WW3, and the downfall of this country.

On the issue of Barack, a constitutional professor, community organizer- not an oil executive- just paid off college degrees in recent years. I don't think he is what the PTB have in mind at all. The money he has raised has consisted of average 80.00 donations from American Citizens, plus obviously some corporate donors, but a majority are from people like us (no offense intended).

Check out his shoes!!

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/tal...bama-a-new.php

He is not a muslim for those of you still pushing that.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...ing_obama.html

I am very active calling congress on issues. I've seen it work and I've been ignored. The more people involved- the better response we will get.

I say vote for Obama and stay on his a**.

lennonmccartney 10-29-2008 06:56 PM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
ugh neither
its not like the people elect presidents in the u.s

joe2288 10-29-2008 08:07 PM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
im voting for pedro haha :mfr_lol:

zorgon 10-29-2008 08:15 PM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sfth13 (Post 64217)
Cynthia McKinney is on the ballot with Rosa Clemente for the Green Party.

Kewl She gets my vote :welcomeani:

Now then who else can I coerce... errrr convince... :smoke:

AndyH 10-29-2008 09:32 PM

Re: Which US presidential candidate do you think is most fit?
 
I'm hoping that the 13 for obama and 6 for mccain are just having a laugh...or maybe forgot to put their glasses on? lol


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