So, is nibiru coming?
 

i'VE BEEN WATCHING VIDEOS, INTERVIEWS ETC, FROM PROJECT CAMELOT AND OTHER WEBSITES AND I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING.

THE ONLY REASON THAT I SEE FOR A GLOBAL WAR AND THE NWO TO HAPPEN IS THAT A NATURAL EVENT IS COMING FOR SURE AND THERE IS THE NEED TO HAVE CONTROL OF THE WORLD POPULATION BEFORE WE ALL REALIZE THAT THIS EVENT HAS AN EXACT DATE TO OCCUR.

SO, THE ONLY POSSIBILITY IN MY MIND FOR THIS WORLD MESS, INCLUDING THE CONTROLLED DEMOLITION OF THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM AS YOU CALL IT, IS NIBIRU COMING IN DEC 21, 2012.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS EVENT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED IN SOME OF THE PROJECT CAMELOT INTERVIEWS BUT THEY ARE ALWAYS CENSURED, OR EDITED AS BILL AND KERRY CALL IT. WHY? I HAVE TWO POSSIBLE ANSWERS TO THIS QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SAY.

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We know for sure that something will happen in 2012 but the main question is exactly what is it.

I find Mr. Bob Dean very interesting in the last interview it took me by surprise that he was referring to nibiru. I don't know if Mr Z. Sitchin is 100% right on the nibiru issue. If you search Lucas Scatamburlo interview he says that Sitchin supposedly was visited by the jesuits and warn him that he couldn't tell all of what he new.

Maybe in this solar system past did in fact some object pass over, could be a comet, planet i think we will have to wait for and specific answer to that. Every discovery out there must be related one to the other, if you take the case of our moon , supposedly is and artificial satellite , same thing to iapetus , maybe nibiru could be something artificially made.

There are many questions in this matter but not much answers , lets hope things start changing and the true comes out in time to be prepare for what ever event will happen in 2012.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20...tchy/3082054_1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajUnQqLyKec

i just found this recently posted utube vid. whats odd is that the other night i looked up at the night sky and saw a bright star that seemed out of place. i was rushing to get to my car and was late for an appointment. i stopped and thought that i did not recall seeing venus in that part of the sky before, i was right cause venus was to the left of this object which was larger than venus was very bright white and did not flicker one iota.... just continuous light emission. because it was white and not RED i shrugged it off thinking maybe it was jupiter??? shoot i was in a hurry!

then i saw this u tube vid and thought well look at that

hmmmmm

one more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5RbYovhI0g

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Thanks for your information . The above video is dynamite !
Is anybody else seen it ?
Going back to Bob Dean prediction about the timing of Nibiru if this video can be confirmed , Bob Dean information is not accurate !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5RbYovhI0g

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if i remember right i think bob dean predicted "no later than 2017"

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When i initially stumbled across Nibiru my partner went to NASA asking for answers. (I figured as they talk out of their behinds, there is no point!) However there was a section called ask an astrobiologist, and low and behold practically evry quesiton was about Nibiru, and shock horror they denied it. COMPLETELY. Obviously.

What was interesting is that when the astrobiologist was confronted about the newspaper report in 1985 stating that planet X was found, he just shrugged it off by saying we find new anomolies inthe sky all the time, and then blinded the audience with NASA science. It all seemed very fishy to me.

I swing from believing it , to not doing so. For some reason the thought of human intervention ie: martial law scares me more than Nibiru which is obviously natural phenomonon *if true*. And if it is coming there is not much we can do about it.

I guess it will be a quick way to go.

What recently re-ignited my aprehensive belief in it is the blood line insider mentioning it on Above Top Secret. As a return of a god!

having said that the hopi indians refer to it as the dark destroyer and when are they ever wrong.

if it is true there are safe places but we arent being told where they are!

So I guess we just better pray.

my 2 pence worth.

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the following quotes come from this link:

http://paranormal.about.com/library/.../aa021102a.htm



"Even mainstream astronomers have long speculated that there may be an unknown planet - a Planet X - somewhere out beyond the orbit of Pluto that would account for the anomalies they were detecting in the orbits of Neptune and Uranus. Some unseen body seems to be tugging at them. The finding was reported in the June 19, 1982 edition of the New York Times:

Something out there beyond the furthest reaches of the known solar system is tugging at Uranus and Neptune. A gravitational force keeps perturbing the two giant planets, causing irregularities in their orbits. The force suggests a presence far away and unseen, a large object, the long-sought Planet X. Astronomers are so certain of this planet's existence that they have already named it "Planet X - the 10th Planet."

The anomalous body was first spotted in 1983 by IRAS (Infrared Astronomical Satellite), according to news stories. The Washington Post reported: "A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite. So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a nearby 'protostar' that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the light cast by its stars ever gets through." "


""A Mystery Revolves Around the Sun," an article posted by MSNBC on October 7, 1999 said: "Two teams of researchers have proposed the existence of an unseen planet or a failed star circling the sun at a distance of more than 2 trillion miles, far beyond the orbits of the nine known planets... Planetary scientist at Britain's Open University, speculates that the object could be a planet larger than Jupiter." And in December, 2000, SpaceDaily reported on "Another Candidate For 'Planet X' Spotted."

Another article and photo appeared in Discovery News: "Large Object Discovered Orbiting Sun." The article, published in July, 2001, says, "The discovery of a large reddish chunk of something orbiting in Pluto's neighborhood has re-ignited the idea that there may be more than nine planets in the solar system." Naming it 2001 KX76. the discoverers estimate that it is smaller than our Moon and might have an elongated orbit, but they gave no indication that it was heading this way."

so it appears that evidence pertaining to nibiru has appeared in the main stream media but that was some time ago. since then i have not seen anything more recent except on alternative sites. the article about IRAS discovery reported in the Washington Post was quickly taken down and never heard of again. fortunately some people captured the article and you can google it to find it



:cool:

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http://www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.pdf

i found this bit from the controversial zetatalk.com. it is the most comprehensive 'safe location' document i have seen. other sources i have read to seem to correlate pretty good with the zeta one so i usually refer to it when i need to decide which way to run since i live directly on the gulf of mexico!!

:eyes:

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How do we "Know this for sure"?

So far all other predictions from 1999 on have missed the mark... so how do we know 'something' will happen 'for sure'

As to Sitchin....

I shall Quote Sitchin....


Nibiru settled into a clockwise orbit (equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth
around the Sun). Nibiru stabilized into a clockwise orbit, equal to
3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun until 10, 900 B.C.E., when
Nibiru arrived earlier, due to increasing drift from Solaris of
Uranus. Uranus' gravity sped Nibiru's orbit. As a result of this
close encounter between Nibiru and Uranus, one of Nibiru's moons,
Miranda, was captured by and became a moon of Uranus as Nibiru and
Uranus pulled at each other. From 10,000B.C.E. on, Nibiru's
revolution sped to 3.450 Earth years; which makes Nibiru's next
return 2900A.D. rather than 2012 as predicated on the earlier 3600-
year orbit

Sitchin, Z., 2007, The End of Days, pages 315 - 317

As I said... not till 2900 AD Long after we are all long gone

So now we can stop worrying about that silly planet


Besides EVERYONE knows what happened to Planet X

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg-nI_etQ4c


And Zeta talk... who FALSELY predicted it would be here in 2003, scaring people into quiting jobs, selling homes and buying bunkers was wrong

This is Zeta's orbit for Nibiru

How anyone bought into this is beyond me :shocked:

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...anetXOrbit.jpg


What is the matter with everyone? Are you all so sick of life you have a death wish? If Nibiru the Destroyer was indeed coming in 2012 should you not be out enjoying life for the next four years?

Because if Nibiru IS real... when it hits Earth... unless you have a spaceship hidden somewhere, there is NOTHING you can do to prepare PERIOD

http://www.infosyncworld.com/gfx/art...leiades_01.jpg

Now if as some believe 2012 is a GOOD year, well then why worry?

Silly Lemmings

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i still remain very unconvinced of this issue no matter how much information there are on the internet, there are not any clear proof of it to be considered something real.

In the other hand, speculating, the possibility of it´s existence appears many times.

bob Dean told somethings about Nibiru, being a so nice person as he seems to be with high respectability, i don´t buy the story.

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Yeah I would be a gonner too cos I live literally a hop skip and jump from the sea.

Thanks for the link!! But doesnt zeta talk get alot of bad press! Isnt she a channeller?

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Funny other than the title of that video I did not hear the word Nibiru hmmmmm


Files released on UFO sightings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7398108.stm

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Hi Zorgon, i have plowed through a good deal of the zeta website but i do not recall seeing that orbit in your above linked picture. i would be interested to see the zetatalk link containing that pic. i noticed that the link to your picture does not appear to be from the zeta site but i could be mistaken

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Its a whitewash alright. how can you have a top secret file on something that doesnt exist!!

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seems they thought about that orbit in a serious drunken state

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HMMM! This recent 'v-blogger' has seen something in the NORTHERN SKY. Am I correct in thinking that 'all' the previous proclamations were pointing at the SOUTHERN SKY? The northern ICE is melting very rapidly.

I'll be having a good look at the northern horizon tonight, if it stays clear.

:fisch:

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1982? Why not try getting your news a little more up to date?

That unknown planet is Eris with moon Dysnomia...

Here is the Orbit

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Orbit.svg.png


There are others as well and even a Dwarf planet in the Asteroid belt called CERES

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancie...-EightTNOs.png


If you looking for 'enlightenment' it would be wise to study and keep up to date with new discoveries


And anyone listening to Zeta talk after the last fiasco?

Good luck to you...

Fool me once shame on you... fool me twice...

Well let President Bush explain it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM




:welcomeani:

Re: So, is nibiru coming?
 

when i stated in my post '...i saw this video hmmmm i was referencing this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajUnQqLyKec

and not the bbc video about ufo's.

i too noticed that the bbc video made no mention about nibiru and perhaps i should have not included it in my post

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good point! in the washington post article they claim that the IRAS telescope was looking at the northern sky

"The mystery body was seen twice by the infrared satellite as it scanned the northern sky from last January to November, when the satellite ran out of the supercold helium that allowed its telescope to see the coldest bodies in the heavens. The second observation took place six months after the first and suggested the mystery body had not moved from its spot in the sky near the western edge of the constellation Orion in that time."

:shocked:

so what gives?

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the size of eris does not correlate with what was reported back in 1982 by the washington post...

"The most fascinating explanation of this mystery body, which is so cold it casts no light and has never been seen by optical telescopes on Earth or in space, is that it is a giant gaseous planet, as large as Jupiter and as close to Earth as 50 billion miles. While that may seem like a great distance in earthbound terms, it is a stone's throw in cosmological terms, so close in fact that it would be the nearest heavenly body to Earth beyond the outermost planet Pluto. "If it is really that close, it would be a part of our solar system," said Dr. James Houck of Cornell University's Center for Radio Physics and Space Research and a member of the IRAS science team."

did the scientists at IRAS make a mistake?


:boat:

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yes Queen zeta gets bad press but if you think about it has any channeler, whistle-bower, informant, insider etc not received bad press from time to time? is there an exception to this rule?
:original:

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Nice info zorgon , but i was talking that in 2012 not that nibiru or any other gloom and doom thing will happen , but maybe there will be some change let's say in the way we measure time , change of calendars i don't know. I mention that date because all the different infos related to 2012 but the ones that talks about change in consciousness, perception of time. It seem we will have to wait for the date to come.

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Thanks for that Zorgon, I knew that Nibiru wouldn't be around for another few hundred years...but I didn't realize that Sitchin had revised the orbit. I haven't read End of Days yet; I'm still working on Lost book of Enki, but have read all of the others.

Good lookin out :thumb_yello:

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In what year are we really, Bob Dean mentioned that Jesus was born 7-years before the official year-0, and some people are talking about some English king who lived in the 1600´s who added ore tock away 6-years. It´s all wery confusing about which year we are actually living in.

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Like you ChristinCP, I have read all but "End of Days". I got partly into the "Lost Book of Enki" and got fed up with trying to get my head around Sitchin's artificial sentence structure. It was then that I started to have serious doubts about his point of view. :nono:

I'm not saying he's deliberately misleading people but while he may believe what he is saying, I feel he covers too many events which start out as conjecture and end up as an accepted fact in his eyes. :sad:

I'd love to think he was right and to be present when all the nay sayers were proven wrong. :tongue2:

Oooo! Look at that pig flying by! :mfr_omg:

Re: So, is nibiru coming?
 

here's the thing. even if 'something' does appear in the sky as we approach 2012, does that automatically mean it's nibiru? of course not. there are always other possibilities. it could, for instance, be some sort of mothership coming for whatever reason. that's just one example. the problem is that if something were to appear in the sky it would seem to verify both the nibiru and mothership theory. unfortunately, most people are going to claim it's verification for the most well-known theory. all we would be able to tell is that 'something' is approaching earth

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Since most of the top secret projects are hidden, we do not know if Nibiru is indeed on an orbit that would get considerably close to planet Earth.
We cannot refute the idea that Nibiru exist because we know so little about what the Government has up its sleeves up to now.

Anyhow, even if Nibiru would be coming, they would never admit that a planet that big will eventually cause big catastrophes on planet Earth in a future to come.

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I will get it for you... it was posted at ATS... I thought I had a link... my bad..

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Hmmm interesting theory... Now a planet that huge coming close... please explain to me just what the government has at it's disposal to hide such a huge planet in the sky? :shocked:

Of course you could just refute ALL science as well...

Funny no one called 17P/Holmes "nibiru" It was twice as big as Jupiter at one point and very easy to see with the naked eye for weeks


:thumb_yello:

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If it's been detected by the IRAS, then it is not visible to the naked eye.
It's as simple as that if they want to hide it.

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Why is it confusing? We are living in 2008...Our calendar starts at a point in time based approximately on Jesuses birth as best as they could determine it. Most people know that he was not born Dec 25th... that date was picked because Pagans already celibrated the return of the sun after the equinox and was a convienient date picked, not an actual birth date...

So if Jesus can indeed be proven to have been born at a different time... our calendar still remains the same

No confusion... just another detail of History in error.

Now what happens if it turns out as many believe that there never was a "jesus" How does that work in the 2012 predictions?


:welcomeani:

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It actually came bigger than the sun.
Not it's core obviously, but it's gazeous halo.

salute.

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So this planet is COLD? yet it shows up in IRAS?

Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS)
Infrared is HEAT... IRAS searches for HOT items...


That video you linked...

At 3:08 he says the following image of the BIG DIPPER

The image he shows is Orion

IRAS discovered a huge Nebula in Orion

This is what orion looks like when viewed in Infrared from IRAS
http://www.nasaimages.org/luna/servl...125:IRAS-Orion


Is it any wonder that everyone is so confused about this?

No one can get their facts straight Big Dipper and Orion's Belt are two of the best know constellations out there



I think not...

From the people who run IRAS

No Tenth Planet Yet From IRAS
http://web.ipac.caltech.edu/staff/tc...lanet_yet.html



:welcomeani:




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Quite true but I expected that to be too much for the Lemmings :tongue2:

My favorite part was when it looked like a Giant Cosmic Jellyfish...

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0711/holmes_peris.jpg


It was certainly visible from Earth :wink2:


oops too big...

http://spaceweather.com/comets/holme...-von-Bagh1.jpg

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And here is the the second video where he admits he was wrong......

Nibiru Visible To The Naked Eye Now! - vlog pt 2


"Know this. I never intended to mislead you" ~ PlanetNibiruIsHere

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Hi Zorgon,

Have you read "Dark Star: The Planet X Evidence" by Andy Lloyd. I have never read Sitchen's work, as I have been largely put off by all the negative press about his ideas and theories. However, I recently read Lloyd's book and found it both interesting and informative. You may well have read the book or at least come across his website at http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/. If not, I recommend a perusal of both.

Anyway, he does not buy into all of Sitchin's stuff, but does treat him respectfully. He speculates tha Planet X is actually one of the moons (or planets?) of a brown dwarf, which as I am sure you know is a kind of failed star, or a star that never came to be. He argues that this is within our solar system, but currently out toward or beyond the kuiper belt. A brown dwarf can apparently be around the size of Jupiter(perhaps a little bigger), though it has a far greater mass than such a planet. It is really half way between a planet and a star, as I understand it (and I am no astronomer). Thus the dark star, according to Lloyd, is a brown dwarf and thus a substellar companion of the Sun.

Lloyd argues that this dark star is currently at aphelion (furthest from the Sun) and in a very elliptical orbit. He believes that the reasons that it is not visible to astronomers, at the current time, are as follows. Firstly, because it is at aphelion and thus too distant to be easily seen. Secondly, because it is somewhere in the direction of Sagittarius, a constellation that can be found in the thickest part of the milkyway as seen from Earth. It is thus indistinguishable from the mass of stars, nebulae, etc. that litter that part of the sky. Thirdly, and finally, a brown dwarf, by its very nature, does not give off much light. The combination of these three, he suggests, is why it has not been identified and seen by astronomers. If it has been spotted, it may have been mistaken for a body outside of our solar system, as its motion through the sky (he suggests a 10,800 year orbit of the Sun) is extremely slow as compared to the orbits of the planets, from Eris and Pluto inward.

He also suggests that the perturbations of Uranus and Neptune can best be understood by the presence of a large Jupiter size body in the outer solar system. Small dwarf planets like Pluto and Eris just do not account for this. Lloyd also suggests that it is not the dark star itself that comes into the known planetary zone when it is as perihelion (closest to Sun) but one of its satelites or moons. He suggests that it is this sattelite or moon that is the famed 'Niburu', which may get as close to the Sun as the orbit of Saturn at certain periods in history/prehistory.

As I am no expert on these things, I have no idea what is and is not possible. However, on the surface, his ideas do seem to have some air of credibility about them. Anyway, I would be interested to know what you think?

If Lloyd is right, then there is certainly no suggestion that either the dark star or one of its moons is going to be entering our planetary zone in or around 2012. I certainly can not beleive any such significant body could be missed if it was actually within the planetary zone of our solar system.

Best Wishes

Truthseeker

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in the youtube video he admits he is wrong. to his credit i dont feel he acted maliciously. he now claims is Sirius. is this true? i have never noticed this bright object before. it has been clearly visible every night in the west southwest sky from sunset until about 9pm. i am ignorant of astronomy.


now here is the dumbest question of all time. i was always taught stars twinkle and planets dont. my amateur observations of the heavens over time has proved this to be true. so if this is Sirius then why does'nt it twinkle? it shines continuously like venus.

go ahead laugh but i hope someone can explain this one to me.

:zip:

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No laughing...

The twinkling effect is caused by atmospheric conditions... bright object like Venus or Sirius low to the horizon go through more atmosphere for the light to reach your eye so less twinkle.

Look at how large and orange the moon appears at moon rise or set... Partly due to paralax but also the denser air

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The fact that there may indeed be a dwarf star companion to our sun is postulated by many astronomers... but at such a distance it does not show up in gravity perturbations.

I have not looked fully at Lloyds work yet, but I will.

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I think Iv seen what is in the vidio, but it was in the sest sky very bright though it was a plane light , but didnt move, its huge, and it was up there for a few hours then was gone. this was in florida:shocked: