U.s. Gov't will collapse before summer 2009
 

:shocked: CONFIRMED: U.S. GOV'T WILL COLLAPSE BEFORE SUMMER 2009; WILL REPUDIATE NATIONAL DEBT; ISSUE NEW CURRENCY AND DEVALUE "OLD DOLLARS" BY 90%
Hal Turner
Oct. 19, 2008
I have confirmed that the United States federal government will financially collapse "before summer 2009."
Long time listeners to my radio show will recall that as early as September 5, 2007, over one year ago, I warned my audience on the air, that this was coming.
I announced during that same radio show that the US government was secretly minting new currency, THE AMERO and revealed a plot to intentionally bankrupt the United States to force integration with Canada and Mexico. Once merged, the US Canada and Mexico would be a new entity called the North American Union. (You may listen to an archive of that show, from over a year ago, by clicking HERE)
According to a Bulletin issued out of Cannes, France, the collapse will come "before summer 2009" because the U.S. can no longer make payments on its national debt.
According to "Lettre Confidentielle de LEAP/E2020" the US economy, now in deep recession, will collapse. The resulting lack of tax revenues will make it impossible for the federal government to pay even the interest on its ten trillion dollar national debt.
On October 16, 2008, the "Global-Europe Anticipation Bulletin" told its subscribers that the present U.S. Dollar will be demonetized and a new currency imposed. "Old dollars" will be devalued by ninety percent (90%)
When the collapse occurs, countries around the world will immediately stop accepting our money. That means imports will dry up very quickly -- including food and oil imports.
Lets talk oil first
The United States uses 18 million barrels of oil each day. We produce 5 million barrels a day of our own oil and import 13 million barrels a day from around the world.
Right now, our strategic petroleum reserve has 701 million barrels of oil in storage. When the world stops accepting our currency and stops shipping oil to us, we will have to draw down on the strategic petroleum reserve by 13 million barrels per day. We will run out of oil in 59 days.
No oil means no gasoline for cars; no diesel fuel for trucks.
Everything in this nation, except electricity and natural gas, is transported by truck. No diesel fuel means no products being shipped. . . . . including food.
Now lets talk food
After our oil reserves run out in 59 days, trucks will have no fuel. No fuel means no food gets delivered anywhere.
Here in the New York City area, our supermarkets have about three days worth of food in stock. They must get deliveries almost every day to feed the population.
So . . . . . the oil reserves run out in 59 days, the supermarkets are empty 3 days later. What do you think is going to happen?
Complete Social Collapse and anarchy
The cities will disintegrate into complete chaos first. Roving bands of savages will break into homes looking to eat. If you cannot protect yourself, they will take your food.
Once the cities are emptied of food, the savages will come to the suburbs. Small local police departments will be instantly overwhelmed. Calling 911 will be useless.
If folks in the suburbs cannot protect themselves, the savages will take their food too.
Ultimately, people will start killing each other for food.
No Government money means no welfare checks, no food stamps.
When this collapse happens because the government is totally broke, the welfare checks will stop. Almost immediately thereafter, civil unrest will erupt and we know who will be doing that. . . . don't we?
Now you know why Barak Obama is being pushed so hard for President. The powers-that-be know what's coming and they want a black man in the White House with the hope he can control "his" people. It won't work. They'll just call him an Uncle Tom or an OREO cookie and then go on their merry way to rape, rob, pillage, burn and kill.
In fact, to prove I'm right about the Obama situation, check out what VP candidate Senator Joe Biden said this past weekend. Biden 'guaranteed" that Barak Obama "will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions." Telling us all that we're going to lose 90% of the value of our life savings sure will be unpopular.
I wonder if the Secret Service agents who lose their life savings too, will bother protecting Obama from assassination; or might they kill him themselves? After all, the Zapruder film proves the secret service agent driving John F. Kennedy in Dallas, turned around and shot him in the head. That's why his wife, Jacqueline Kennedy, tried climbing out of the back of the limo after it happened! She saw who shot her husband. It happened once, it can happen again!
What to do right now
1) If you live in a city, make plans to get out when all hell breaks loose. Arrange a place to stay with relatives or friends far away from the city because the cities will be deadly.
2) Start storing food.Don't wait. You have less than 6 months before the **** hits the fan. Buy canned foods because they stay fresh a long time. Buy SEVERAL 50 lb bags of rice, SEVERAL 50 lb bags of oatmeal and store them. Make sure you have lots of flour and yeast to bake your own bread. Have supplies of sugar, salt and the like. Buy powedered milk that can be mixed with water to create real milk. Refill your propane tank for your grill and maybe get some spare tanks. Do not store propane inside your house because it can explode.
3) This Christmas, forget buying presents; buy a gun or two and ammunition. Ideally you should have one handgun for each older teenager/adult in your home. You should also have at least one 12 gauge shotgun and one hunting rifle such as a .308 or 30-30. Teach everyone in your family how to use them. Make certain your children understand these are not toys and that in apartment buildings and condos, bullets can go through walls and kill innocent people. We don;t want that so make sure you teach your kids well. You're going to need guns to fend off the savages that come to steal your food. You may also need a rifle to hunt for food yourself.
4) Buy a gravity-fed water filter so you have clean water for drinking and cooking.
5) Stock up on any prescription drugs you MUST have to live.
6) If you have never hunted for food and don't know how to gut, clean and prepare freshly killed animals, LEARN. Get a couple books and LEARN.
7) Start talking to your neighbors about what's coming. Since the police will be totally overwhelmed, form local neighborhood defense groups. Get CB radios or Family Radio Service radios so you and your neighbors can call each other for help immediately. If the bad guys come, call out the whole neighborhood and use all deliberate force to repel the invaders. Don't be afraid to shoot and kill. The savages won't be afraid to do it to you!
Folks, this is the absolute worst news I have ever delivered to my readers. I shudder at what's coming. If we hope for the best but also plan for the worst, we might. . . . . just might. . . . get through this alive.
Please spread the word to prepare for this coming disaster. Europeans are already planning for it.
Final analysis
How we got to this point is simple: The United States federal government and in particular, the Congress, systematically and deliberately overspent our nation into oblivion. Our own government wrecked our nation.
In order that WE THE PEOPLE can bring justice to our elected officials, I am publishing the private home addresses of all members of the United States House of Representatives and the United States Senate.
Under our Constitution, they hold the purse strings. They are the only branch of government that can tax, spend or incur debt. Sure, they blame Presidents - that's politics. But the Constitution makes clear that congress and ONLY congress deals with money.
If you would like to know where your U.S. congressman and U.S. senators live so that you can "pay them a visit" after they devalue your life savings by 90%, I will provide their home address to you.

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You know I have just seen on the computer a photo with a lot of people watching horses fight which has been banned but there still doing it - the heading was barbaric horse fights still continue .

Sometimes i think it might take a bloody nuclear war and starvation for some ignorant stupid idiots to wake up. The sooner they disappear the better. I don't care if they die tomorrow.

Sorry I am losing my spiritual side now and I am ..............angry.:mad3:

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Excellent post. The web bots have also stated the government will default by the summer of 2009. There will be a repudiation of the dollar.

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Let's suppose all the above happens. What does that mean to those of us who live within our means but do have a mortgage, minor credit card debt, and a car payment? If we can't earn money to pay our debts after this crash will we be foreclosed on and kicked out if we suddenly can't pay?

I'm going to watch this situation carefully. We own a store in our community and we could organize pretty easily to help each other out, if need be. That is if we aren't robbed blind or looted. I want to be on top of this situation.

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Yes, I also want to be ready and prepared. I have supplies and food but no guns.
I would like to get out of the city when this starts and if anyone has any ideas where to go. Somewhere not in the city, please let me know.
Thank you.

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Ah yes, from Hal Turner, known FBI dis-information plant. He is paid by the FBI to mislead people. Not a credible source....sorry.

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This is a good wake up call, but I think it is a little on the fear mongering side of things. First of all there is enough oil in this country to keep things running,(we just have to go get it). Second WE are the government, I know this sounds silly but even if Washington DC falls off the map we can make the nation run just fine and probably better. There is the possibility that food could become scarce so food storage is always a good idea.

So what if the money is no good. If money goes out of style and we all learn to barter for our goods we could do it. Your great grand parents had nothing and they survived. If we have no money and no jobs trust me mexico will want nothing to do with us, and I like Canadians. There are other ways of doing things, and buying guns and living in fear is not part of it.

Will you shoot someone just because they are hungery?
This is an opportunity to show the fear mongers how wrong they were not to trust the people. I am all for preparedness, but let's keep our heads about us.

Remember food growes from seeds, nobody can eat gold or bullets. (I know hunting is an option) but if a golden age of man is coming then let's prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Peace be with you

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Do you have evidence? or is this just a personal opinion?

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Thanks Sam,
I agree. I honestly don't even want to own a gun or ever have to use one.
It's a little bit scary. I remember the L.A. riots and how innocent men were beaten just for being there driving in the middle of the chaos.
I do have very good neighboors and I wouldn't think twice to share with them what I have bought and prepared for.
I am mixed up about this a bit because I remember the Genocide in Rwanda, the times where humans are so full of rage, they lose touch with their senses and it's like they are taken over by dark forces and they do horrible things.
I don't want to think this way, but the past has shown that people can do things they wouldn't normally do during desperate times.
I think I would leave the city if things got really rough. Maybe go to the Mountains in Georgia or something...we'll have to see.
I will also pray allot and try to focus on how we can work to help each other.

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Sarahmay, thanks for the heads up on Hal Turner being an FBI disinformant.

While I am fully aware that the US might potentially default on its loans and revert to the Amero, I don't buy the extreme negative outlook that Hal has painted in his blog entry. Instead, I truly believe Americans will reorganize themselves and emerge for the better with strong guidance from the hundreds, if not thousands of Light Workers in the country.

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Yep, here is a mainstream source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner

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Red Elk (see youtube) had a vision of this, seeing a tall man eating his baby, he says, one should pray for food, and not go to 666 (chip).
If you pray for food, food will apear before you (miracles will happen).
This is very same story I heared twenty years ago, when I was in the Himalaya, told by a monk.
Get out of the big cities, find people to go with and start a farm, take seeds,
and learn how to survive, Amerikan people should not be here on this forum any more but on there way, so to speak.

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Did mister Turner also mention the colour of those raving savages?
About Europe he is mis-informed anyway.

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Bill Ryan has put a post up re a new George Green audio on Project Camelot. He seems to be saying similar to the above. I notice there are as yet no replies to Bill's post, so perhaps others like myself are having difficulty finding it. You can find the post by going into Bill's Member profile, and through the heading "Audio of George Green" to Announcements.

I hope this is usual, and we may see some comments on the George Green video.

Noela

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I agree with Martina,
The ironic thing is I just closed on a home that I am purchasing and I have a baby and I am not able to leave to a farm land right now but if things get to the point of govt. collapse, urban life collapse, I want to be ready to just start driving and heading to an area where I can live off the land with a group of people.
That's why I am asking if anyone has an idea of a place that we can talk about and then just meet. I don't know right now but I am pretty prepared to leave if I have to, I would just need a plan of where to go.

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If you're worried go to the bank an convert your U.S. dollars into Swiss Francs.

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Check this link out for preparations. I just posted a run down of my take on how I think it will come down.

Folks when it goes down that far, don't worry about paying the house ... no one will be able to do that....

That a look at the post.
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...light=waterman

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"According to a Bulletin issued out of Cannes, France..."

i would be interested in reading the Cannes Bulletin if i could

link please?

anyways, i lived through Katrina. I saw what well-armed communites can do in a crisis. i doubt the police or military could do better.

people in our communities banded tightly together. vigilance was impressive. god be with the looter or trouble maker that accidentally wandered there.

a well armed populace bound by a common thread is a terrifying force to be reckoned with. look for example in afghanistan. russian and american might have been unsuccessful against the locals there despite all the sophistication of our armies. a sobering thought.

most of the shoot-em-up scenes about new orleans after Katrina that were shown in the msm were in poorer communities where most people were not armed cause its not exactly cheap to be armed, and/or most people had left and the thugs took over certian areas.

i personally dont believe in killing cause someone steals from you. i think its sad. if someone grabs some food then what? blow them away? naw.

while i was impressed how communities banded together after Katrina, i was very disturbed by the large number of people willing to kill another human because of theft. it disgusted me how they yearned (almost with excitement) to 'catch' some poor slob stealing a worthless flooded refrigerator or tv. this type of aggression scares me.


since katrina i never really looked at or felt the same about some of my neighbors... when law and order breaks down, and john q. public assumes absolute authority... john q. publics true personality becomes evident. i forgot the famous author of this quote but it goes something like this... 'nothing can test the character of a person greater than absolute power.'

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What we are witnessing in the world, not just the US, is a transformation. As far as I can tell the systems have already collapsed, or lets just say put on a new mask of change to conceal the failure. Now since I love my System I live in, and want nothing but the change to not occur, yet no matter how I look at it I continue to see the failure just at a glance.

The us will not collapse in the way you think. We have big guns, and we will more then likely resist, til our last breath as a whole to this form of energy that is wishing to try to take the spotlight. Yet at the same time everyone human breathing air is fearing the same thing, which tells me their is a possibility it will not be us fighting ourselves. One thing is certain, The US will nuke everything and everyone if it fails, and something or someone tries to conquer her, just keep that in mind. You can only influence and take so much without force or violence. The future holds big guns, civil collapses lack of food, and shelters conform into order through manicured means. The US government will not collapse as long as she has weapons of destruction. Not to mention we hold most of the gold in the world... Let do some studying before proclamations of Doom.. Hard times are coming, indeed, but I do not see a symbol of union collapsing, better chances of STATES Collapsing then our federal government, which is really no state of power in the union in the firt place. I suggest all Americans read the constitution.

PEACE

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Is the sky ever going to stop falling?

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Here's the report from France referred from.

http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-28-is-...ebt_a2250.html

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yup fear is pretty interesting... Ironically the only thing important is just ourselves, staying alive not this illusion we live in, that makes it easier.. Anyhow good to see YOU are keeping your wits about you.. Lotsa cannon fodder here indeed... I think our ancestors would be laughing at many of you...

PEACE

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I believe we will ALL be at the RIGHT place at the RIGHT time. It would seem very difficult and "risky" to plan "specific" areas to flee to. besides, what are you running from?? I am thinking we will be protected although the woods "might" be that protection. I have thought hard about "where" does one go.... I must say I am prepared and would actually LOVE to live in the forests... what a gift! However, it seems ALL would "panic/leave" to the forests. If the "powers that be" have some what of an idea of a possible collapse dont you think that they would counter act any "fleeing" of people from the cities? Meaning, roads would be monitored, forests monitored etc... not to mention massive amounts of people living in the woods. Only a select few have the vehicles, supplies, know how etc.. to survive out there. Just thoughts... any thoughts? :original:

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or buy organic soil :original:

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To many people would be attached to the system.. (matrix theory) many will die, unable to survive, especially the weak, females, children, etc. etc. Not to mention I am sure fallout would be in the equation... Bad thing to talk about... Not smart to wish for failures we are at a pinnacle in mankind.. No right place, for failure... Just everyone losing... Nothing good, balance would be tilted so badly, you would never feel human again.. just a animal.. Dillusions of greener pastures thru failure are just what they are.. It would take a long time to find a place safe... To start over.. Chances of survival nil.

PEACE

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I see what you mean. Thanks.

I don't really consider Wikipedia too reliable a source either, since anyone can write the entries, but he does seem pretty bigoted.

I like to allow for people to change. George Green did. If what he used to do, and almost did were to follow him around, we'd miss out on a lot of good information.

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I live in the Country on a farm that has been in the family for over 100 years. I live in a very tight knit comuunity which is comprised of a large amount of my family. I read posts from many of the suburbanites who have a backpack full of stuff and think they are going out into the country and just survive. It is not going to happen unless you plan on hitting a National Park. You are on the Titanic and there are only so many life boats. The people here are not going to let people just come hunkerdown and eat off their food stocks, yes they will help people traveling through but like a hotel at some point they will turn you away. Unless you have a skill they need or an ability to operate a weapon you are the useless eater so lovingly refferred to by the Illuminate Think about it, you understood the situation and prepared yourself and your family, you told people to get ready and they responded with a bug out bag and then show up on your door step or lifeboat which is at capacity. Guess what, If it comes down to you eating or my family...You die. if it comes down to saving you from a roaming gunman who didn't have such a hang up about taking your stuff or me comprimising my family or position guess what ...you die again.
I think the peace and love stuff is great, It will work well in a FEMA camp, until human nature shows up and somebody decides they don't like the way you look or want a trinket you may have. I have been around Violence the majority of my life and believe me, many of you on this site are deluded. When it gets down to the crux of the matter humans are animals and when stress is applied to strategic points you will see a Rawanda or a Holocost right here in the good ole US of A. You will see brother sell out brother and Mother turn in her son. If you think I represent small minority of how people who are preparing think, you may find yourself surprised.
Some people, believe it or not, are offended by the thought of a New World Order, some people are not tolerant in their beliefs, Some people believe in the Constitution and the flag and the hundreds of thousands of men and women who have died to protect them, those people are not going to just go away into the night. They are not going to just let this happen. The first mistake they will make is to try and disarm the public. There are over 200 million guns in this Country in the hands of over One third of the population. If just One percent of the gun owning Population decides they are willing to fight , you will have a force larger than that of our whole Military, which a good percentage of which would likely refuse such orders as to fire on Americans or confiscate weapons. They will try it anyway beliving they have a tech advantage. This will be held in check most likely by an incredibly pourous amount of intel leaks as pipelines and infiltration into government command becomes apparant. Guess what, When the fighting does start, it will develop into an insurgency and then you and me both will be seen as the enemy by the very people who run the country now. The reason being because they will have no way to know who is good and who is not, their will be no profile that will work. How do you solve such a delima? Look at Iraq.

They are going to catalog every human, and guess what else They are already doing it. Don't you ever wonder why they are developing the biometrics and computer softwares that they are, Do you think if On Star can unlock your car from a call center in Virginia, that they can't apply your left rear brake while your traveling 60 MPH down a rural road or cut your fuel pump and stall you in a turn on a major crossroads? Or are you under the assumption that they have it tied into a direct line to the carlocks only, somehow bypassing your on-board computer out of an act of benevolence? They actually want to put one of these chips in your Body. Do you think they could send a current to the SA node in your heart and have you suffer an arythmia or perhaps send false impusles into your Central Nervous System at just the wrong moment. I am sorry to bear such weighty news but somebody has to let you know about what other people are preparing for. When Governments fail people die, I will not tell you these things are etched in stone and are going to happen I pray they don't. Unfortunatly history is against us and as cliche as it is , it does have a profound ability to come back around. Yes our Grandparents survived but I would have to argue that our collective moral compass is slightly different than that of the1930's, overlooking or marginalizing that one fact alone would be a fatal error . This is not a personal attack in any way, I pray for your safety and that of all the other members on this site as well as the people of this great Country. I want the world many of you speak of but it would require me to deny too many things that I have witnessed and lived through. many of these viewpoints are valid and in many respects very noble. Many of you have come to your conclusions the same way I came to mine, through your life experience showing that there really are two truths. Your viewpoints do show me a purity of concious that I wish I still held.

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thank you Mori. it is a convincing article and i can see how it could spawn this thread. still... i cant help but feel that with most of the worlds wealth tied up in america, it seems unlikely that the powers that be (ptb) would allow america to just 'blow away'. seems they have too much invested but i certainly could be wrong no doubt. that being said, america appears to be the worlds best armed civilian population and perhaps then america could be 'the fly in the ointment' for establishing a one world government.


the average american will not consent to this i suspect and the ptb understand this and have arranged to bring down america creating a 'docile' america that will readily cooperate with the rest of the planet. additionally, the ptb have a vested interest in making the world hate america so that americans will fall in line with the rest of the world. judging from my research i suspect that that getting the world to hate america has moved a long way towards being accomplished in light of americas world wide reputation at the moment. i think that, again... , afghanistan serves as a sobering reminder of what an armed population can 'pull off'. i suspect the ptb have a very delicate situation at hand whereby they must bring america under the yolk of global governance but must do so in such a fashion that the population does not become overly 'aroused'. a delicate problem indeed. the last thing they want is an angry mob of armed people 300+ million strong with nukes at their disposal as a last resort. this would essentially be be what the west considers 'the iranian threat', of course in this context it would be iran on maximum steroids, as viewed by the ptb. i believe a timeline is critical for the ptb to have success with respect to america. first they cannot do anything rash or too fast. they must make the people of america suffer economically for a good period thus softening them for the final coup de tat. i think this may be the reason the dollar has suddenly gained in value when the whole world including americans understand that this is not logical with americas spiraling debt and prolific printing of dollars out of thin air. the ptb are trying to 'massage' america as the 'take-down' progresses.


naturally this is just my opinion and may prove to be just a load of balderdash down the road. if, however, one stops and thinks for a moment about what could become a significant problem with respect to the creation of a one world government down the road, then one must consider the hugely armed population of america. in fact, many americans are armed as well as or better than your average soldier.

again... consider afghanistan. putin and bush both know all too well about this little place.

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Ya know, I really am getting sick of all the predictions. I see them all the time. I have yet to see ONE come to pass. I know that people need to be prepared, but some of the people get really scared when they hear about things like this. I feel like I have become a more negative person by reading all these things on predicting gloom and doom all the time. From nukes to Nibiru :wall:, I really just want to enjoy my life and family:original:. Blessing to all!

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Please google search for pictures with keyword 'amero'.. its there..

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amen brother, you have the right idea. i was a bit uneasy with my last post cause its just negative but i felt i had to say it, i apologize if it was taxing to read.

without doubt, your way is THE way.

this negativity does absolutely nothing but promote everything that is wrong in this world. not only does it promote the wrong things, but it elevates them into conciousness and this is NOT what i want to happen or contribute to.

thank you for your post, it is my reality check.

god bless you and your family

celebrate them above all else

peace fellow traveler

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So now we're taking the words of a proven racist/anti-semite at face value?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner

I can't take this thread (or forum) seriously when people link to such wingnuts as Turner, Rense, Corsi or even Hannity. I feel like I'm on a right-wing political site and not Project Avalon.

Just sharing a honest opinion.

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More fear mongering.


To the OP:
Do you seriously think that the other governments in the world are going to just let the US collapse?
If you do, you have ZERO understanding about world economics and zero understanding about humanity, which basically comes down to self preservation.


Things will get bad, but not that bad.

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Of course. Everybody on this forum is so dead set on the world collapsing in the next 12 months, they can't see the forest for the trees.


This is what happens:
-People have a personal crissi
-People book mark 5-10 news sites
-They start looking at those sites 10 times a day, looking at the bad news
-Those sites show the same bad thing over and over giving the impression that the world is ready to explode. The reality is different.
-They then end up doing Google searches for "Great Depression" or "Collapse" and end up here.


The world isn't going to collapse.


Get bad? Yes. Collapse like the OP here is saying? No.

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Personally, I see it happening long before summer. I would say by March or April at the latest. Yes a lot of people will die, but a lot of them will kill themselves because they can't handle the stress of it. It is going to get ugly and a hard winter will not help.

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Assuming Obama's there as the US Pres. I guess he'll show a road or direction people can follow to find their way out of it. Black, White, Hispanic, Native or Asian, Obama's on the ball. Frankly, I feel he's smarter than smart. Where the world can, they will help Obama's Country if need be. 'Cause he inspires not just people but rekindled respect that the West lacked for so many years.
RSF

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I don't believe in a extreme way like some here do, that when I wake up tomorrow, everything will be broken. Something are already broken, the credit market for sure. The Credit market is part of a Free market basically. Because of this blunder their will be new laws, and people to blame. How things are governed in the future will change dramatically. Thats my opinion hard times ahead, but no madmax lifestyle for our generation at least. Yet you really have to look at history too. WWII is what brought us out of the depression, people do crazy things when their hungry, or cold. The thing that bothers me is if people cannot get loans for buisnesses, or people cannot support a free market from the fruits of their labor, how can we maintain this system? A free market that is.. Products will have to have a high demand yield value, people would have to want to rob, steal or barrow if they were not working, or could not find work. I am more concerned about that, keeping our markets healthy. So we can buy food.

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Is The Rothchild family really behind all this mess? the collapse of the US economy?