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Steven 10-22-2008 04:40 PM

The second coming of Jesus, beware of it...
 
Edit: After having listenened the last Jordan Maxwell interview with Camelot Project, I was thinking about this thread here. The second coming of Jesus, or the new messiah. What jordan is pointing out is looking like a coming of a new kind of ''king'' to rule humanity and planet Earth. I enjoyed all the hints poeple were adding to this thread. You can see even here in Avalon project, where poeple are supposed to be aware of the manipulation throught religions/politics/science/education/finance, there are still many who beleive this coming of a new King is the messiah, savior of Humanity. So do be aware of it, or rather; Beware of it...

Hi everyone. I want to bring a subject that concerns me. And I hope it will be received with Wisdom and Discernment.

I have no intention of misleading anyone with this post. Questioning everything starting with what I'm about to write.

Considering Humanity have been and is being manipulated through the use of unfortunately corrupted religion, corrupted dogmatic science, corrupted plutocratic government/bankers, etc... Considering that an alliance of ETs from our Galaxy has the intention of using Humanity for their own purpose. Considering they can not do it with open war because of the other races of the Greater Community of our Galaxy, so they have to make us want to have them to save us from chaos and recognizing them as the true rulers/owners of planet Earth and all Life connected to it. Considering the basic Machiavelli principle to govern by creating a global problem, then bringing up the global solution like a savior, is being applied everyday by these controllers.

I have to think that the Christian beleif of a second coming of Jesus might be used by them to fool all humans. Many books I have read mention this probability. But here is a quote form "Allies of Humanity" message received by Marshall Vian Summers:

"It is our understanding that the true Jesus will not return to the world, for he is working in concert with the Unseen Ones and serves humanity and other races as well. The one who will come claiming his name will come from the Greater Community. He will be one who is born and bred for this purpose by the collectives that are in the world today. He will appear human and will have significant abilities compare to what you can accomplish at this moment. He will seem completly altruistic. He will be able to perform acts that will engender either fear or great reverence. He will be able to project images of angels, demons or whatever his superiors wish to expose you. He will seem to have spiritual powers. Yet he will come from the Greater Community, and he will be part of the collective. And he will engender allegiance to follow him. Eventually, for those who cannot follow him, he will encourage their alienation or their destruction...

... A Second Coming, then is being prepared by your visitors. The evidence of this, we understand, is already in the world..." End of the quote.

I know we have all Knowledge inside to discern this manipulation. Especially if he encourage alienation and destruction. But there might be many really absorb and amazed by such a person.

Awakening, Consciousness, Awarness... To all Humans, is my wish, Steven

Myra 10-22-2008 04:48 PM

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I only have two words. Project Bluebeam.

dayzero 10-22-2008 04:52 PM

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arcora 10-22-2008 04:52 PM

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If you follow the one they speak of you will be deceived. Only a few of tremendous faith will be able to see through the sham.

Jesus is busy so someone else is coming....:mfr_lol:

martina 10-22-2008 04:55 PM

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Me too : Blue Beam

Sarahmay 10-22-2008 04:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven (Post 58812)
... A Second Coming, then is being prepared by your visitors. The evidence of this, we understand, is already in the world..." End of the quote.

We won't be fooled again. ~~ The Who

beauwalton@rocketmail.com 10-22-2008 04:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven (Post 58812)
Hi everyone. I want to bring a subject that concerns me. And I hope it will be received with Wisdom and Discernment.

I have no intention of misleading anyone with this post. Question everything starting with what I'm about to write.

Considering Humanity have been and is being manipulated through the use of unfortunately corrupted religion, corrupted dogmatic science, corrupted plutocratic government/bankers, etc... Considering that an alliance of ETs from our Galaxy has the intention of using Humanity for their own purpose. Considering they can not do it with open war because of the other races of the Greater Community of our Galaxy, so they have to make us want to have them to save us from chaos and recognizing them as the true rulers/owners of planet Earth and all Life connected to it. Considering the basic Machiavelli principle to govern by creating a global problem, then bringing up the global solution like a savior, is being applied everyday by these controllers.

I have to think that the Christian beleif of a second coming of Jesus might be used by them to fool all humans. Many books I have read mention this probability. But here is a quote form "Allies of Humanity" message received by Marshall Vian Summers:

"It is our understanding that the true Jesus will not return to the world, for he is working in concert with the Unseen Ones and serves humanity and other races as well. The one who will come claiming his name will come from the Greater Community. He will be one who is born and bred for this purpose by the collectives that are in the world today. He will appear human and will have significant abilities compare to what you can accomplish at this moment. He will seem completly altruistic. He will be able to perform acts that will engender either fear or great reverence. He will be able to project images of angels, demons or whatever his superiors wish to expose you. He will seem to have spiritual powers. Yet he will come from the Greater Community, and he will be part of the collective. And he will engender allegiance to follow him. Eventually, for those who cannot follow him, he will encourage their alienation or their destruction...

... A Second Coming, then is being prepared by your visitors. The evidence of this, we understand, is already in the world..." End of the quote.

I know we have all Knowledge inside to discern this manipulation. Especially if he encourage alienation and destruction. But there might be many really absorb and amazed by such a person.

Awakening, Consciousness, Awarness... To all Humans, is my wish, Steven

If you have read, A Revelation to John, you should realise that such a person will indeed match the above description, you have just described the Anti Christ, Jesus will come just like he promised. :trumpet:

micjer 10-22-2008 05:05 PM

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Steven,

Great topic. I agree with your post.

Also project bluebeam comes to my mind also.

This goes against all that we were "taught" in Sunday school. We are supposed to be looking for the second coming.

The people I feel sorry for are all those good people that faithfully obey their church and go every Sunday thinking they will be saved. I have many family members that are very religious and would willingly follow any such manipulation.

micjer 10-22-2008 05:07 PM

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Jesus is busy so someone else is coming....:mfr_lol:[/QUOTE]





love it!!!:lmao:

micjer 10-22-2008 05:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beauwalton@rocketmail.com (Post 58825)
If you have read, A Revelation to John, you should realise that such a person will indeed match the above description, you have just described the Anti Christ, Jesus will come just like he promised. :trumpet:

This also crossed my mind. Good point.

:thumb_yello:

Scooby 10-22-2008 05:35 PM

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A false messiah is definately about to make the scene. In fact I believe there may be two. A female and a male . Satan has taken both forms throughout history. I thinks the book of daniel descibes his coming very well and I believe the zionists will try to provide the female anti christ and the mahdi or the Islamic Messiah will be the Male one. I'm not sure the female diety will make it but I believe the Mahdi will be the anti christ and is about to make the scene and will come out of one of the four horns in the book of daniel. either Iran, Iraq, or most likely Syria. He will bring peace to the world and be very powerful and bring great signs and wonders and many will believe he is the Christ but I believe that revelations is correct and Jesus is on his way.

tone3jaguar 10-22-2008 08:58 PM

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The second comming of Jesus is completely symbolic in its meaning. If one wishes to see a full definative analysis of this then they should watch the Zeiguiest Movie. The symbology is astrological. Once you see the graphics and illustrations in the movie it is hard to deny.

sternschweyf 10-22-2008 09:04 PM

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If people stopped believing in so called "holy books" of unknown origin,no one could claim or said to be a messiah,christ,antichrist,satan, santa claus or whatever that is anything else but human.

undetected 10-22-2008 09:17 PM

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I don't think the real Jesus is coming, mainly because he would be killed faster than the last time, most probably by christians themselves.

If, against all odds, he actually is planning to come, I highly suggest he has AT LEAST these attributes:

Strength: 60/100
Dexterity: 80/100
Vitality: 2000/100
Magic: 3000/100

Fire resist: 100%
Lightning resist: 70%
Poison resist: 100%
Magic resist: 80%

Special Skills:

- Dodging bullets
- Detecting assassins from 10 miles away
- Teleportation
- Diverting homing missiles
- Purging radioactivity
- Detecting traps
- Invisibility

...with something like that, he might be able to survive, but I still doubt anyone would really listen to him any more than anyone listens to me.

As for the probability of the PTB creating a fake Christ, I'd say quite high, even though I still think it wouldn't be very successful, for the same reasons as mentioned above. Even with creating "miracles," most people would suspect he's a faker. People these days don't trust anyone, especially if he's "different."

whitecrow 10-23-2008 04:18 AM

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People will see second comings and false and real messiahs just the way they find pictures in the clouds. And then in hindsight they'll find all the little details and fit it all together perfectly.

Some will never believe it. Some will never believe anything else.

Anchor 10-23-2008 04:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by undetected (Post 58986)
I don't think the real Jesus is coming, mainly because he would be killed faster than the last time, most probably by christians themselves.

If, against all odds, he actually is planning to come, I highly suggest he has AT LEAST these attributes:

Strength: 60/100
Dexterity: 80/100
Vitality: 2000/100
Magic: 3000/100

Fire resist: 100%
Lightning resist: 70%
Poison resist: 100%
Magic resist: 80%

Special Skills:

- Dodging bullets
- Detecting assassins from 10 miles away
- Teleportation
- Diverting homing missiles
- Purging radioactivity
- Detecting traps
- Invisibility

...with something like that, he might be able to survive, but I still doubt anyone would really listen to him any more than anyone listens to me.

As for the probability of the PTB creating a fake Christ, I'd say quite high, even though I still think it wouldn't be very successful, for the same reasons as mentioned above. Even with creating "miracles," most people would suspect he's a faker. People these days don't trust anyone, especially if he's "different."

:mfr_lol:

Oh man, I so love that. You so have it! With people like you on the team, we cannot be beaten.

A..

gordon 10-23-2008 05:22 AM

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With all of thease so called 'holy threads-posts' - wonder why there will be a Anti-Christ.

Tuza 10-23-2008 06:07 AM

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Norval and Gail's research puts a lot of light into this matter.:original:

Treckie 10-23-2008 06:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Myra (Post 58816)
I only have two words. Project Bluebeam.

I'll second that.:smoke:

Ashatav 10-23-2008 07:27 AM

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I have THREE words for that... Project Blue beam, hahhaha

no

haha

In the Leo Zagami's camelot interview he says that the Jesuits (the people who control all the creapy organizations, created the illuminati, infiltrated the freemasonry, etc.) are Aware of the new spirit focused age of humanity in where we will live in the future (not new age, that's completely infiltrated by jesuit, just see that the father of that movement Was a jesuit, pierre teilhard de chardin) will be out of reach so he Want to have a messiah and that's what they tryed to do with the reverend Moon and other who doesn't have a decent end, haha.

That's what they want, have a messiah to control the next "spiritual focused world" who are coming, that's what Leo Zagami says in the camelot interview about the topic.

Look at this about the jesu-its http://hardtruth.navhost.com/blackpope1.html

Cheers!

Steven 10-23-2008 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashatav (Post 59346)
...Look at this about the jesu-its http://hardtruth.navhost.com/blackpope1.html

Cheers!

Thank you for the project Blue Beam information. It will be very useful for many of us here.

Special thanks to Ashatav. The link you provided is very interesting. It not only concur with other information I got from the Black Pope and the Jesuit connection, but also goes further. Yes, I have watched all Leo Zagami's interviews and I must say this guy point out something very interesting.

I red many times the book of Revelation of John and it shows up well the anti-Christ. Nevertheless, the Bible have been so many times altered that you can't trust it alone. You must have at least one other source the verify it's veracity. Plus, the Earth's Elite are trying to make it all happen like a script, including all negative aspect of it. It's like making a prophecy and with all the power in the world trying to make it happen. To this, I don't subscribe.

Namaste, Steven

Orion Morris 10-23-2008 04:42 PM

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Well if Jesus is coming...

We better hide the beer!!!

micjer 10-23-2008 04:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion Morris (Post 59678)
Well if Jesus is coming...

We better hide the beer!!!

Nah I am going to put a couple of bud on ice for him.:mfr_lol:

conjuredUp 10-23-2008 05:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sternschweyf (Post 58977)
If people stopped believing in so called "holy books" of unknown origin,no one could claim or said to be a messiah,christ,antichrist,satan, santa claus or whatever that is anything else but human.


Bravo!
And seconded.
BUT... we have to stop believing anything else but OURSELVES.
Only I know my truth.
And you yours.


LOVELOVELOVE,
C

Scooby 10-23-2008 07:21 PM

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The thing to fear are the ones that fear Jesus. In these uncertain times as things go into chaos these are the ones that will be turning Christians in just like they did in Germany. Also I find it funny that those that scoff and berate Jesus in times of perilous crisis are the ones that drop to thier knees first. Just ask vetrans of War they always seem to have stories of this. I love how new agers always talk of love, acceptance, live and let live, peace, and passivisism but when the chance arrives they find every opportunity to dismiss and even berate others beliefs, especially Christians, however vaguely thier attempts to do it. Gods richest Blessings~~

Magii 10-23-2008 07:36 PM

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Here is ur Second Coming of Jesus --


"Prince Christian of Denmark"
born October 15, 2005


He is the son of Crown Prince Frederik and his wife, the Australian born Crown Princess Mary.

Take note of the names ..

Mary + Christian

Theres also alot of symbology with flags / orgs but i dont remember all that blah blah .. :wall:

~~~
Someone wrote up a good story about this .. if u look on the net you can find it ...

Peer 10-23-2008 08:06 PM

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Imagine Jezus landing while everybody just took off for the Pleiades........
Finding just a note.........

BEER 'S IN THE FRIDGE....
:beer:

DeeZe 10-23-2008 08:11 PM

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Regarding the view as to wether or not Jesus will return in human form during this time, consider the following excerpts from "Seth Speaks".

Peace,
(:-DeeZe

pages 370-371

"The historical Jesus knew who He was, but He also knew that He was
one of three personalities composing one entity. To a large extent He
shared in the memory of the other two.

The third personality, mentioned many times by me, has not in your
terms yet appeared, although his existence has been prophesied as the
"Second Coming". Now, these prophecies were given in terms of the
current culture at that time, and therefore, while the stage has been
set, the distortions are deplorable, for this Christ will not come at
the end of your world as the prophecies have been maintaining.

He will not come to reward the righteous and send evildoers to eternal
doom. He will, however, begin a new religious drama. A certain
historical continuity will be maintained. As happened once before,
however, He will not be generally known for who He is. There will be
no glorious proclamation to which the whole world will bow. He will
return to straighten out Christianity, which will be in a shambles at
the time of His arrival, and to set up a new system of thought when
the world is sorely in need of one. :welcomeani:

page 372

There were three men whose lives became confused in history and
merged, and whose composite history became known as the life of
Christ....Each was highly gifted psychically, knew of his role, and
accepted it willingly. The three men were a part of one entity,
gaining physical existence in one time. They were not born on the same
date, however. There are reasons why the entity did not return as one
person. For one thing, the full consciousness of an entity would be
too strong for one physical vehicle. For another, the entity wanted a
more diversified environment that could otherwise be provided.

The entity was born once as John the "Baptist, and then He was born in
two other forms. One of these contained the personality that most
stories of Christ refer to....


page 373

The third historical personage, already born in your terms, and a
portion of the entire Christ personality, took upon himself the role
of a zealot.

This person had superior energy and power and great organizing
abilities, but it was the errors that he made unwittingly that
perpetuated some dangerous distortions. The records of that historical
period are scattered and contradictory.

The man, historically now, was Paul or Saul. It was given to him to
set up a framework. But it was to be a framework of ideas, not of
regulations; of men, not of groups. Here he fell down, and he will
return as the third personality, just mentioned, in your future.

page 374

When the third personality reemerges historically, however, He will
not be called the old Paul, but will carry within Him the
characteristics of all the three personalities.

page 376

I would like to make certain points clear. The "new" religion
following the Second Coming will not be Christian in your terms,
although the third personality of Christ will initiate it.

page 377

This personality will refer to the historical Christ, will recognize
His relationship with that personality; but within him the three
personality groupings will form a new psychic entity, a different
psychological gestalt. As this metamorphosis takes place, it will
initiate a metamorphosis on a human level also, as man's inner
abilities are accepted and developed.

The results will be a different kind of existence. Many of your
problems now result from spiritual ignorance. No man will look down
upon an individual from another race when he himself recognizes that
his own existence includes such membership also."

Luigis Mushroom 10-24-2008 12:43 PM

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Yes I have also heard multiple prophecies that ETs are planning to replicate our spiritual order and pretend to save us from harm we're essentially causing to ourselves. It all brings me to one conclusion.

Is this really unavoidable? Our people are unwilling to help themselves, they just beg somebody else will come in and do it for them. We have the power to change the world, make it whatever we want it, but so many people are docile and hopeless.

Gabe Gabriel 10-26-2008 05:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven (Post 58812)
Hi everyone. I want to bring a subject that concerns me. And I hope it will be received with Wisdom and Discernment.

I have no intention of misleading anyone with this post. Question everything starting with what I'm about to write.

Considering Humanity have been and is being manipulated through the use of unfortunately corrupted religion, corrupted dogmatic science, corrupted plutocratic government/bankers, etc... Considering that an alliance of ETs from our Galaxy has the intention of using Humanity for their own purpose. Considering they can not do it with open war because of the other races of the Greater Community of our Galaxy, so they have to make us want to have them to save us from chaos and recognizing them as the true rulers/owners of planet Earth and all Life connected to it. Considering the basic Machiavelli principle to govern by creating a global problem, then bringing up the global solution like a savior, is being applied everyday by these controllers.

I have to think that the Christian beleif of a second coming of Jesus might be used by them to fool all humans. Many books I have read mention this probability. But here is a quote form "Allies of Humanity" message received by Marshall Vian Summers:

"It is our understanding that the true Jesus will not return to the world, for he is working in concert with the Unseen Ones and serves humanity and other races as well. The one who will come claiming his name will come from the Greater Community. He will be one who is born and bred for this purpose by the collectives that are in the world today. He will appear human and will have significant abilities compare to what you can accomplish at this moment. He will seem completly altruistic. He will be able to perform acts that will engender either fear or great reverence. He will be able to project images of angels, demons or whatever his superiors wish to expose you. He will seem to have spiritual powers. Yet he will come from the Greater Community, and he will be part of the collective. And he will engender allegiance to follow him. Eventually, for those who cannot follow him, he will encourage their alienation or their destruction...

... A Second Coming, then is being prepared by your visitors. The evidence of this, we understand, is already in the world..." End of the quote.

I know we have all Knowledge inside to discern this manipulation. Especially if he encourage alienation and destruction. But there might be many really absorb and amazed by such a person.

Awakening, Consciousness, Awarness... To all Humans, is my wish, Steven

Hi Steven,

I believe you are correct as for the masses being fooled by this fake Christ also called the Anti Chriist.

Your advice to question everything is also a point well taken and also is taught in the Bible.

According to the scriptures that I have read to become more informed The real "Jesus Christ" will not come back to this Earth while we as humans are still in the physical bodies that we now inhabit.

There is scripture that teaches "That all flesh will be changed, in the twinkling of an eye" just before the "real Jesus" comes back.

So as long as you live in the same flesh you have now you will not see Jesus.

One day while you are going about your daily business and you notice a change in your flesh "all of a sudden", then start looking for "Y'shua Messiah" to show up but not until that point.

This is what a lot of people are calling the ascension that is coming soon. Where we as humans go into another "density" or "dimension" through the change in the basic vibratory rate that is the "current" third dimensional spin we all are living in at this time.

In other words don't look for "Y'shua Messiah" until your flesh has changed.

arcora 10-26-2008 06:17 PM

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Ask yourself honestly.

If a 'being' came to earth promising peace, love, happiness and prosperity for all in exchange for taking a little microchip, and 90% of the population bought into it - Would you be able to accept the consequences of non-compliance and go either to your death or prison?

This may be the choice we're all faced with.

milk and honey 10-26-2008 06:26 PM

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The question Gabe Gabriel is how long is a "twinkling of the eye of God"? My guess, about as long as a piece of string. Not necessarilly 'suddenly' as man sees it. I don't accept that 2012 will bring about a sudden shift or transition to a new 'density'. I believe "Ra" and David Wilcock are mistaken about that. The inner- realisation of christ consciousness (the higher- Self) can raise the vibration of body and soul so that would qualify as a "change in the flesh" for sure. But that is something that happens as each individual realises the inner- light rather than to masses of people in Dec 2012.

The 'second coming of Christ' is a state of consciousness and whether or not that translates into a golden age society in 2012, individuals can walk the earth right now in spiritual communion with the christ- Self.

"NOW is the accepted time sayeth the (inner) LORD"

motov 10-26-2008 06:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by undetected (Post 58986)
I don't think the real Jesus is coming, mainly because he would be killed faster than the last time, most probably by christians themselves.

If, against all odds, he actually is planning to come, I highly suggest he has AT LEAST these attributes:

Strength: 60/100
Dexterity: 80/100
Vitality: 2000/100
Magic: 3000/100

Fire resist: 100%
Lightning resist: 70%
Poison resist: 100%
Magic resist: 80%

Special Skills:

- Dodging bullets
- Detecting assassins from 10 miles away
- Teleportation
- Diverting homing missiles
- Purging radioactivity
- Detecting traps
- Invisibility

...with something like that, he might be able to survive, but I still doubt anyone would really listen to him any more than anyone listens to me.

As for the probability of the PTB creating a fake Christ, I'd say quite high, even though I still think it wouldn't be very successful, for the same reasons as mentioned above. Even with creating "miracles," most people would suspect he's a faker. People these days don't trust anyone, especially if he's "different."

Neo? follow the rabbit :mfr_lol:

ctophil 10-26-2008 09:05 PM

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People, the second coming of Yahushua is not something to be taken lightly. There will be some false comings that will trick the mainstream audience, Catholics, and Sunday-church goers. These false messiahs will cause miracles, yes, but are puny (more dust mites puny) compared to the Son of Yahweh's appearance. When the True Yahushua arrives here, ALL of mankind will see, hear, and experience his arrival. The trumpets will be blown in the closest Heavens (the Earth sky) and the Son of Man will be shown brighter than the sun! All beings on this Earth will know Who he is and there will be no sprinkling of a doubt whatsoever (followers of Lucifer will tremble in fear...understatement). Of course, the false showing will happen first. Be on guard spiritually....seek Father Yahweh today. That's the only way you are going to have a tiny chance of surviving the onslaught of deception, death, and suffering. Don't forget that even the "elect" (seed of Abraham) of Yahweh can be deceived.

-Phillip

Steven 10-26-2008 10:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by milk and honey (Post 62092)
...The 'second coming of Christ' is a state of consciousness and whether or not that translates into a golden age society in 2012, individuals can walk the earth right now in spiritual communion with the Christ- Self.

"NOW is the accepted time say the the (inner) LORD"

Hello Milk and honey. I agree with you. When I made this post, I didn't write my view/belief about it. So, I'll write it here.

First, it's a belief, not a knowledge coming from within. I feel it is this way, but I can not say it will be true.

I believe the cosmic Christ will manifest into our Hearts. Not especially at 12/21/2012 11:11, but sometimes after it and I see it as a progressive crescendo event. Not a person embodied in the flesh, but a cosmic divine presence who already dwells in our Hearts. It will simply grow to a point where it can not be avoid by our intellect/mental/Ego anymore. All will be free to accept it or not. For those who accept, the little voice inside will become the greater presence within. No more teacher needed, no more religion, no more leader, just a nation of free Human becoming on the genuine path to divinity. Christ being the bridge between Creator and Creatures.

But as I said before, it is a feeling only from my perception, it might be something totally different.

Namaste, Steven

Kelphi 10-27-2008 03:04 AM

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Steven,

You claim you can't trust the bible? On what authority? Your own? It takes more faith not to believe the bible than to believe it. Every ancient bible manuscript that has ever been found matches what we have today my friend. I beg you, I plead with you. Please. You better investigate that before you build your own truth.

And for the people here quoting ET's aka demons. They mix a little truth with a little lie. They know their destination, they want yours to be with them.

Christs return will be like this: Christ returns in the clouds for ALL to see Him. Believers in Christ will be taken (snatched) out, aka blessed hope, aka rapture. This is not the second coming, that comes 7 years later with His saints, aka believers to do battle at Armageddon. Those 7 years will be hard for anyone to become a believer in Jesus. Satan will have a beautiful explaination of the mass disappearance. So much so that if it were possible would fool the very elect, aka saints, aka believers in Jesus Christ.

After Revelations chapter 3: All believers, aka saints, aka the church, aka the elect, aka believers in Jesus Christ, etc. are not mentioned any longer because we are not here. We are with Jesus where we will be with Him forever more. We have been raptured.

The people that remain will see the anti-christ (lucifer) immediately set up shop in Jerusalem claiming to be God and performing miracles and demanding to be worshipped. This is called the abomination of desolation in Matthew 24. This is how you will know that you have been left behind. Your only hope at this last point will be to put your hope and trust in Jesus Christ and believe that He paid the price for your sins on the cross. But if this is foolishness to you now it will be ultra-foolishness to you then because of the great deception in the land.

So instead of believing in the doctrines of demons by creating "your own reality" and looking "within self"- go find you a born again believer of Jesus Christ and pray and repent of your sins and ask God to apply His Son's shed blood to your sin debt and its all good. Its that simple. Don't gamble with eternity any longer. What have you got to loose? (nothing) What have you to gain? (everything). God says in His word that it has not been put in mans heart to know what awesomeness He has in store for His people.

Get this taken care of people. You are running out of time.

Dadrious 10-27-2008 03:39 AM

Re: The second coming of Jesus, beware of it...
 
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Originally Posted by Kelphi (Post 62461)
Steven,

You claim you can't trust the bible? On what authority? Your own? It takes more faith not to believe the bible than to believe it. Every ancient bible manuscript that has ever been found matches what we have today my friend. I beg you, I plead with you. Please. You better investigate that before you build your own truth.

And for the people here quoting ET's aka demons. They mix a little truth with a little lie. They know their destination, they want yours to be with them.

Christs return will be like this: Christ returns in the clouds for ALL to see Him. Believers in Christ will be taken (snatched) out, aka blessed hope, aka rapture. This is not the second coming, that comes 7 years later with His saints, aka believers to do battle at Armageddon. Those 7 years will be hard for anyone to become a believer in Jesus. Satan will have a beautiful explaination of the mass disappearance. So much so that if it were possible would fool the very elect, aka saints, aka believers in Jesus Christ.

After Revelations chapter 3: All believers, aka saints, aka the church, aka the elect, aka believers in Jesus Christ, etc. are not mentioned any longer because we are not here. We are with Jesus where we will be with Him forever more. We have been raptured.

The people that remain will see the anti-christ (lucifer) immediately set up shop in Jerusalem claiming to be God and performing miracles and demanding to be worshipped. This is called the abomination of desolation in Matthew 24. This is how you will know that you have been left behind. Your only hope at this last point will be to put your hope and trust in Jesus Christ and believe that He paid the price for your sins on the cross. But if this is foolishness to you now it will be ultra-foolishness to you then because of the great deception in the land.

So instead of believing in the doctrines of demons by creating "your own reality" and looking "within self"- go find you a born again believer of Jesus Christ and pray and repent of your sins and ask God to apply His Son's shed blood to your sin debt and its all good. Its that simple. Don't gamble with eternity any longer. What have you got to loose? (nothing) What have you to gain? (everything). God says in His word that it has not been put in mans heart to know what awesomeness He has in store for His people.

Get this taken care of people. You are running out of time.

:lmao:

Dantheman62 10-27-2008 03:50 AM

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:no:Wow, some of you people actually scare me!

GregorArturo 10-27-2008 03:58 AM

Re: The second coming of Jesus, beware of it...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelphi (Post 62461)
Steven,

You claim you can't trust the bible? On what authority? Your own? It takes more faith not to believe the bible than to believe it. Every ancient bible manuscript that has ever been found matches what we have today my friend. I beg you, I plead with you. Please. You better investigate that before you build your own truth.

And for the people here quoting ET's aka demons. They mix a little truth with a little lie. They know their destination, they want yours to be with them.

Christs return will be like this: Christ returns in the clouds for ALL to see Him. Believers in Christ will be taken (snatched) out, aka blessed hope, aka rapture. This is not the second coming, that comes 7 years later with His saints, aka believers to do battle at Armageddon. Those 7 years will be hard for anyone to become a believer in Jesus. Satan will have a beautiful explaination of the mass disappearance. So much so that if it were possible would fool the very elect, aka saints, aka believers in Jesus Christ.

After Revelations chapter 3: All believers, aka saints, aka the church, aka the elect, aka believers in Jesus Christ, etc. are not mentioned any longer because we are not here. We are with Jesus where we will be with Him forever more. We have been raptured.

The people that remain will see the anti-christ (lucifer) immediately set up shop in Jerusalem claiming to be God and performing miracles and demanding to be worshipped. This is called the abomination of desolation in Matthew 24. This is how you will know that you have been left behind. Your only hope at this last point will be to put your hope and trust in Jesus Christ and believe that He paid the price for your sins on the cross. But if this is foolishness to you now it will be ultra-foolishness to you then because of the great deception in the land.

So instead of believing in the doctrines of demons by creating "your own reality" and looking "within self"- go find you a born again believer of Jesus Christ and pray and repent of your sins and ask God to apply His Son's shed blood to your sin debt and its all good. Its that simple. Don't gamble with eternity any longer. What have you got to loose? (nothing) What have you to gain? (everything). God says in His word that it has not been put in mans heart to know what awesomeness He has in store for His people.

Get this taken care of people. You are running out of time.

:lmao: I just had to.

It's a sad thing if one thinks they can't find 'truths' within one own self. Almost all my philosophical concepts I have developed on my own completely outside of other influences. I wrote a paper that is for the most part identical to Plato's allegory of the cave, before I even knew it existed. 2500 years apart, and developing the exact same thoughts about 'universal truths' then god damnit that has to be some serious universal truths!

Here's a lesson people in universal truth. If you were born, and thrown into a jail cell from birth with no reference material (ie holy books) and able to figure something out without any outside influences, like here's a rat, oh and there's another rat, a little bit fatter, but still another rat. OMG wait, that's two rats! Then there you go, that's a universal truth.

And thus, the two rat void the fat concept was born! :trumpet:

WineHippie 10-27-2008 04:01 AM

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