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feeler 10-16-2008 09:06 PM

Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

“Such a mass visitation, at this stage in our planetary game, would be an absolute tragedy — an irreversibly vast insult to the free will of the overwhelming majority of people on Earth who would see it as a horrific and terrifying event, based on their Hollywood movie conditioning.” – David Wilcock
The so-called "free will" of the majority is formed or based upon the many years of deceit, disinformation, mind-control techniques, alien intervention (both direct and indirect), and manipulation. The “will” is hardly qualified to be considered as “free.” IMO, what we have is enslaved will. What I am hoping to see is that the enslaved will is freed at some point in time. What’s your take?

SOUTHERNCALIBELIEVER 10-16-2008 09:12 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Wont happen as long as we have these so called "leaders" in office.

Love/Light 13 10-16-2008 09:14 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
the point that DW is trying to make is that all souls in the universe(s) have first and foremost the liberty of free will. Whether we want to admit it or not, we all signed up to live in this place at this time, and we must figure out why we chose to do this in the first place. A mass sighting is not in the plans at this time in Earth's history. Humanity must figure things out for themselves.

Earths concious beings have allowed themselves to be controlled for millenia because they have misinterpreted the true nature of all that is. Our current philosophies lead us to the conclusion that "GOD" is outside of ourselves, and therefore we do not to the inner work necessary to prepare the planet for its next stage of evolution.

Free will is the first distortion of our true existence. David Wilcock was right about Oct. 14, and has a positive message for humanity. Not surprising then that so many try to discredit his work.

As unfortunate as it may be, we will be enslaved on this plante until we take responsibility for our role in the creation of this existence. We must view the world as a macrocosm of our own inner battles...................

L/L 13

********************************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

SOUTHERNCALIBELIEVER 10-16-2008 09:20 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Good words...I agree!!

I do think people are starting to wake up, I know I have within the past year.
Sometimes I think it's a waste of time trying to wake people up (not saying its a bad thing to do) I think people just seem to be waking up on their own, people have their own switch so to speak.

Reveling John 10-16-2008 09:38 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Blossom apologizes (thanks to Zorgon for the link):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm4v8ylAxTc

Great Love,
John

Anchor 10-16-2008 09:40 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
The title of this thread is wrong. You cant cancel something that wasnt planned in the first place.

A..

SpaceMonkey 10-16-2008 09:44 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
personnaly i think it was a rumor that got out of hand. Don't get me wrong im a believer in flying saucers and all that but like i said on another site, if the october 14th event happened, i would walk the streets naked. It was rumour and everyone believed it, at least it will teach us to be careful on who to believe.

arcora 10-16-2008 09:46 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anchor (Post 53660)
The title of this thread is wrong. You cant cancel something that wasnt planned in the first place.

A..

Yep.

And any 'visionary' who gives it credibility is suspect.

feeler 10-16-2008 10:08 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anchor (Post 53660)
The title of this thread is wrong. You cant cancel something that wasnt planned in the first place.

A..

Yes it is. An alternative title could be:

No planned event for Oct 14 due to "free will" per David Wilcock

Thanks.

Rebel4Life 10-16-2008 10:11 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
David keeps getting funnier and funnier :roll1:

Rareheart 10-16-2008 10:15 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Stay tuned kids...because Love/Light 13 is correct.
Quote:

Our current philosophies lead us to the conclusion that "GOD" is outside of ourselves
Our changing philosophies and our current technology will beg us to search within for answers...as "science" and "faith" meld.
The writing is on the wall.

feeler 10-16-2008 10:16 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Love/Light 13 (Post 53644)

Earths concious beings have allowed themselves to be controlled for millenia because they have misinterpreted the true nature of all that is.

Would you consider a wife as someone allowing to be controlled, if she is being a good wife while her husband is cheating on her?

Theresa 10-16-2008 10:21 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
thats right, it wasn't "cancelled", it wasn't meant to happen.

I watched Blossom's video on the 16th and my heart goes out to her so much. I am also a channeler, and had an experience 2 years ago where it was communicated to me to trust that something would happen, that I REALLY REALLY wanted to happen (it was a personal issue) and it didn't happen. I can TOTALLY feel her sense of betrayal, humilitation and confusion.

I believe that what happened was for a consciousness raising effect on HUMANITY, and she was being in service to that, and also, a personal spiritual growth experience for her, via the "crucifician" archetype.

That archetype is a very challenging growth process that an initiate walks. It results in huge spiritual-soul level development, but is excruciating when you are in the midst of it.

Having been through a few myself, I want to share with Blossom, if she reads this: hang in there, trust the process, stay heart centered, cry when you have to, and know this is all going to make sense to you.

I dont' see "machevellian" manipulations at hand here, just a collective spiritual growth process and clarification process unfolding on the collective soul level of learning to distinguish our EGO vs HIGHER SELF.

its all in divine order..trust the process, stay heart centered, keep meditating, and being willing to surrender the ego to be in service to your higher self. That's the "test" and the "remedy!"

~BLESSED BE~

hyatt 10-16-2008 10:31 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
im utilizing my
free will
to have as much
fun as
i can stand
and
spreading love
like
butter on
a
biscuit

Jacqui D 10-16-2008 10:33 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
I'm sitting on the fence with this one, i had to admit when i first heard about the ufo thing i thought great! but it has to be a scam right!
They would never openly advertise they would be coming to show themselves to the world,come on there are still a lot of sceptics out there sure.
David Wilcocks got it right there in his comment, the majority of the human race have been programmed to think (Aliens, safe us!! type of scenario)
Yes imagine the panic!

But watching the latest Blossom Goodchild interview on you tube i really believe this woman feels she was right, and perhaps she was who knows, i do believe she has not made much money from it all well i hope i'm right or i'm losing my strong sense of intuition on these things, she genuingly looks an okay person to me.
She was made for what ever reason to announce that message to the world okay so it didn't happen we knew it wouldn't, but it has made the headlines around the world, it has brought the whole ufo phenomenon to the fore great that's what i say, but it's made this woman look pretty stupid through it all.

Perhaps she will take heed not to shout her message out next time, lets hope the next one will be the real one and take this as the first real contact of what's to come, that's all i'm saying on this story now, DONE, FINISHED!:trumpet:

omnicentricity 10-16-2008 10:45 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by feeler (Post 53636)
The so-called free will of the majority is formed or based upon the many years of deceit, disinformation, mind-control techniques, alien intervention (both direct and indirect), and manipulation. The “will” is hardly qualified to be considered as “free.” IMO, what we have is slaved will. What I am hoping to see is the slaved will is freed at some point in time. What’s your take?

Forgive me but I don't really understand what your intention was in creating this thread. What are you saying exactly? That choice doesn't exist?

And in regards to the title of this thread - to say that the Oct 14th event was "cancelled" is to assume that it was anything even remotely close to a "scheduled event" to begin with. DW didn't say it was cancelled, he he was offering the perspective from the Law of One teachings about the implications of free will. The feasibility of aliens "just showing up" without being unanimously invited by humanity would not be congruent with other laws and rules of what it means to be a sovereign being.

Your ideas of free will are obviously very influenced by the fact that you are choosing to perceive and become preoccupied with too many of the constrictive parameters of your experience. The only reason those parameters are even there for you to see is to deepen your understanding of the playing field which you are co-creating. If you are looking out into Universe and seeing all the ways which you are held back and in which you are unable to do what you choose, guess what? This is yet another manifestation of victim consciousness. When you are degenerating your Self to experience victim consciousness, then you will tned to focus on the "disempowering stuff", no matter where you look. Nothing in your life will ever change if you are operating from there.

If this is the way you are choosing to perceive your experience, you could say that you have allowed "them" to win.

I would encourage you to examine the ways in which you are choosing to integrate all the information you have available, and shifting your perception to seeing all the ways in which you are empowered, informed and therefore able to acheive a Self-actualized state of being.

Ultimately, your experience of reality and the states of being you contribute (and thereby make available to others) actually IS genuine free will. And this is distinctly different than a paradigm where a "so-called" mental construct of "free will" doesn't genuinely exist simply because the world is more complex than you may have thought in the past. It all fundamentally comes down to choice.

I don't even know if this is approaching and answer to what you are seeking, but the concepts you are expressing could perhaps be refined a bit to derive a more precise question.

Fundamentally, I think that at some level, it's likely you are asking a question that does come down to CHOICE. My take is that marginalizing my ability to choose is not the type of being I choose to be. I still put my conscious focus giving all that I am to everything else, as often as I can remember to do so.

Rareheart 10-16-2008 10:47 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Each new person spends many years developing the skills needed to operate in an environment which has been tailored to suit "mans needs". 'Man' has created an un-natural environment which has bent natural laws to near breaking point.

Though we possess the power to create our own "reality"...we must follow rules.
Simple yet unyielding rules.
Not the least of which is...Balance.

The only thing I can say about balance is:
Balance will ("will" in every sense of the word)

feeler 10-16-2008 11:00 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by omnicentricity (Post 53724)
The feasibility of aliens "just showing up" without being unanimously invited by humanity would not be congruent with other laws and rules of what it means to be a sovereign being.

The chance of UFO being “unanimously invited by humanity” is next to nil. You are in the minority. The next 9/11 (if the power that be so choose) will crystallize the “victim consciousness” among the mass for good. This thread is to discuss whether the respect to the populace’s “free will” is a logical reason or explanation for a mass sighting not to take place on Oct 14.

Magamud 10-16-2008 11:26 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
I apologize for random thoughts and spelling first.

I think this event was one step closer to contact. Thawing out perceptions and allowing flexibility in.

Could this event have manifested, why yes.

Could this event have been disastorous yes could it have been wonderful yes.

I am more inclined at this time to take a risk on humanities ability. We have been governed so long with Big Daddy Govt making decisions for us and treating us like kids that I can throw up! The secrecy has dispupted the natural frequency. Its radioactive so to speak.

I think manifesting reality is equal to the inner/outer work of peoples intention and just by reading some of the people here, we all seem to be gurus in reality but we have forgotten ourselves in this prison planet.

Maybe our intention is to move this planet through something.
We must petition the Free Will Council!

I think we are so distorted here that we look for perfectionist metaphysical ideas. We are so enslaved that we will take on another 20 years to ablsolutely clean my spirtual thought.

I believe the Free Will Council wants to hear WTF! We are in the embrace of the Galactic Empire and this place is not prosperous for beings of the creator.

I have a good feeling their are some benevelont beings biting at the chomp to come in hear and kick some ass and get rid of this prison. They just need the go ahead and wanting of the people. One of us is as strong as a thousand.

Understanding of how much manipulation, deception and secrecy is a key. When enough of us realize this and find the equal ground and self esteem to communicate to the cosmos contact will happen.

This time continuum could end at any time. I would like to believe I am here to make a smooth transition between worlds.

Godspeed

Steven 10-16-2008 11:28 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Theresa (Post 53694)
...distinguish our EGO vs HIGHER SELF...

Six words, only six words. The key is there. Six subtle words to contemplate during a lifetime.

We are on the same journey and the same path.

All my blessing to you and your beloved, Steven

omnicentricity 10-17-2008 12:20 AM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by feeler (Post 53749)
The chance of UFO being “unanimously invited by humanity” is next to nil. You are in the minority.

Um - I was agreeing with DW's assertion that the possibility of a mass sighting was nil to begin with. I don't know what minority that puts me in...

When I first saw this youtube video, I laughed and gave it the same level of consideration that I would to any random silly video, like someone getting whacked in the balls with a whiffle bat. It made me giggle for about 10 seconds and then I moved on to something else in my life. I don't really know how that makes me a minority LOL. Could you please elaborate? :)

Quote:

The next 9/11 (if the power that be so choose) will crystallize the “victim consciousness” among the mass for good.
Well, that is quite a victimized understanding to be projecting. Are you saying that another 9/11 type event (assuming that one manifests) would indisputably solidify victim thinking for YOU? Because speaking for myself, I KNOW that anything that happens around me, catastrophe or miracle, will only serve to awaken my essence even more, because I am the one who chooses to respond to external events. I don't speak for the rest of humanity because I am not arrogant enough to think that everyone responds to everything the same way I would.

I'm sorry you view the game as being otherwise, but again, that is your choice to see what you want. I would argue that you are leaving out a massive part of the picture to derive your conclusion, but we are all moving towards creating conscious cognition of all the elements in play, whatever stage of awareness we happen to have evolved thus far.

I do not perceive the same constipated reality that you are expressing, but then again I don't really choose to think in limited, pejorative absolutes. For what it's worth, I have not found such a worldview to be an effective basis for constructive thinking or communicating with others :)

Quote:

This thread is to discuss whether the respect to the populace’s “free will” is a logical reason or explanation for a mass sighting not to take place on Oct 14.
Ok, so what is it you are discussing then? What is your position?

Because it appears as though you are basically saying that:

- October 14th was supposed to occur according to a highly credible source
- you think David Wilcock offered a poor explanation for why the sighting didn't happen, because
- you think free will either does not exist or is a misunderstood concept, due to many external factors that you choose to see as more significant than your own choices

Is this correct or am I way off base here? Please help me understand, as this ineffective crosstalking of our last two posts is not really something I enjoy. Please remember we are friends here, seeking to enlighten each other :)

Greg10036 10-17-2008 12:41 AM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven (Post 53790)
Six words, only six words. The key is there. Six subtle words to contemplate during a lifetime.

We are on the same journey and the same path.

All my blessing to you and your beloved, Steven

Beautiful words, Steve. They are the key to understanding. Folks, what Steve is saying here is core teaching.

Back to the thread... We are at least 25 years away from global disclosure. Our money is dead. Our energy infrastructure is dead. This is not just the end of an era. It is the end of an age. Star people want to do business but will not disclose themselves on a global level until our nature of exchange has changed. The people of the galaxy do business in energy, personal and otherwise. Business is done base upon who a person is and what they create. Look at this society. If you get good at what you do, and government cannot control it or understand it, they will stop you. It is the opposite in the galaxy. In the galaxy, to excel is to do business. It is based on who you are. Some of us have already opened cosmic bank accounts that we will not use but our children's children will use. The energy will become the exchange. The star people are encouraging us to become responsible adults and start changing our rate of exchange and the way we create energy so that they can do business with us. The star people will not do a dog and pony show. They are here to do business. Blessings and Peace.

Thank you once again, Steve, for your wisdom.

g.

Anchor 10-17-2008 12:42 AM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Theresa (Post 53694)
I dont' see "machevellian" manipulations at hand here, just a collective spiritual growth process and clarification process unfolding on the collective soul level of learning to distinguish our EGO vs HIGHER SELF.

Well, in the big scheme of things, everything that happens, and all that is is all part of the big plan. The whole light vs. dark polarity game is just that, a set up that serves the creators purpose.

I do see machiavellian manipulations, but they, just like Adolf Hilter, all had thier roles to play and for the much greater good.

David Icke had to go through something similar when he was humiliated on television in the 80's. I remember watching it on the Terry Wogan show and I was like "Nooooooo" and cringing at what was being done, while everyone else was laughing. He has later said that this was something he now realises he needed to go through - even though it was awful at the time.

Theresa, I like your perspective on this. I was content to leave it at her being negatively greeted and misled, however you made me think.

I am reminded of the words of the bard [1] ...

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts


The thing to remember, is that it is us who get to write the script of our consensus reality - the "stage".

A..

[1] William Shakespeare - from As You Like It 2/7 http://www.artofeurope.com/shakespeare/sha9.htm

Humble Janitor 10-17-2008 02:04 AM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
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Originally Posted by SOUTHERNCALIBELIEVER (Post 53650)
Good words...I agree!!

I do think people are starting to wake up, I know I have within the past year.
Sometimes I think it's a waste of time trying to wake people up (not saying its a bad thing to do) I think people just seem to be waking up on their own, people have their own switch so to speak.

Getting there by way of learning how to control my reactions to everyday life and channel more positive energy.

May not seem that way on here but in everyday life, I see results.

gordon 10-17-2008 02:59 AM

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Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock

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Good words...I agree!!

I do think people are starting to wake up, I know I have within the past year.
Sometimes I think it's a waste of time trying to wake people up (not saying its a bad thing to do) I think people just seem to be waking up on their own, people have their own switch so to speak.
People are starting to "wake up"? LOL...All of those "people belonging in the federation of light" is in a world of their own. They also like to daydream alot, because it helps them to pretend for them to look good and to feel great!

ranma187 10-17-2008 03:52 AM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
people like goodchild believe what they channel. Why can't they accept that what they channel is either their unconcious. or just an item representing something else. You should NEVER interpret a vision or channel literally.

PodWORLD 10-17-2008 03:54 AM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
This article gives some info on channelling and has links at top to other articles.

http://www.kheper.net/topics/New_Age/channeling.htm

feeler 10-17-2008 04:01 AM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by omnicentricity (Post 53857)
Because it appears as though you are basically saying that:

- October 14th was supposed to occur according to a highly credible source
- you think David Wilcock offered a poor explanation for why the sighting didn't happen, because
- you think free will either does not exist or is a misunderstood concept, due to many external factors that you choose to see as more significant than your own choices

Is this correct or am I way off base here? Please help me understand, as this ineffective crosstalking of our last two posts is not really something I enjoy. Please remember we are friends here, seeking to enlighten each other




omnicentricity

1. Whether the source is credible or otherwise is purely subjective.
2. David Wilcock offered an explanation that, in my opinion, is not entirely complete (hence this thread).
3. My argument here is not whether the "will" is "free" but whether the "will" is "shaped" or "guided" (or misguided for that matter).


The issue at hand, as described by Alex Collier:



Quote:

"As far as our free will as compared to the free will of other races, it is one and the same. It's just that we don't as a population have the realization of the power of our collective free will. We don't totally realize the sovereignty that our free will gives us. That is why they are manipulating us through belief systems in order to try and get is to relinquish our free will, by coercing us to use our own free will against us and ask them to come down here and control us. It's a choice." - Alex Collier



Additional reference from a differenct source (note: the key words here are "undermine" and "lack" in regards to the free will):

Quote:

Coercion and manipulation undermine free will, on this view, in virtue of making agents not reasons-responsive. If Allison has been brainwashed to walk the dog at a certain time, then even if she were to turn on the news and sees that it is snowing, she would attempt to walk the dog despite having good reasons not to. Thus, manipulated agents are not reasons-responsive, and in virtue of this lack free will. [See Fischer and Ravizza (1998) for one of the primary reasons-responsive views of free will.]

capreycorn 10-17-2008 08:18 AM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
just a thought..
the 14th october anouncements mentioned a 2000miles big spaceship next to spaceship earth? 2000miles = our moon (the biggest satellite circling earth)! (remember the moon of The Truman Show..) 14th october was said to be the strongest full moon ....:bleh:

Tuza 10-17-2008 08:29 AM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
I tried joining DW forum to get an answer to my question, but couldn't and then thought better of it. So I will ask here again. I asked the fake David Wilcock who posted here yesterday (when I still thought it was the real DW):

So the aliens didn't show up because of free will, well how come there are many down here already playing around with our free will? No, there are more than the reptilians, as per whistleblowers and numerous other testimonies. I don't think I am going to get an answer from the real DW, shame. I honestly wanted his take on the question.:original:

(Deneutralizing warheads is in essence interfering with free will), although on these occasions please feel free guys....we don't need these anywhere.

Anchor 10-17-2008 09:04 AM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuza (Post 54222)
So the aliens didn't show up because of free will, well how come there are many down here already playing around with our free will? No, there are more than the reptilians, as per whistleblowers and numerous other testimonies. I don't think I am going to get an answer from the real DW, shame. I honestly wanted his take on the question.:original:

(Deneutralizing warheads is in essence interfering with free will), although on these occasions please feel free guys....we don't need these anywhere.

I am not DW.

Its not that they didnt show up. Expressing it in this fashion, implies that there was at some point, a notion that they would and that there was a hard schedule. That was just a viral idea that got started recently (its only been about 10 weeks!)

So far as I have understood it, such "landings" or "mass-apparition" are unlikely to happen until towards the very end of the ascension process. This would be when all of the people still around are the ones that will be attuned enough to the ascension process, that thier free will desicion to go through with the process has been made. Help from these ET beings will be essential, as the Earth is being born into a new existance and it is a difficult delivery. The labor has been long and hard, and expert planet-scale mid-wifery is requried. (We can all help here)

There is an exception, in the case of nuclear weapons. The use of these will not be permitted on a wide scale because the destruction is not confined to just our plane of existence. We would be causing harm to existence that we dont even know about. Thus there is more than just our free-will at stake.

Any such attempt at nuclear mass destruction would then enable intervention. The odd bomb here and there (testing, alleged 911 mini-nukes etc) seems to be tolerable, but I think anything over a certain threshold thriggers intervention and prevention.

Should such intervention be necessary, it will be a huge karmic setback for us, and many of the opportunities that would otherwise have been available to us to learn and accelerate our evolution will be lost.

A..

Tuza 10-17-2008 09:26 AM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Thank you Anchor, I understand all that you have said, but David Wilcock stated in his October 14 statement on Divine Cosmos that this did not occur because it would violate our free will.

What I am saying therefore if DW is correct on his theory about alien intervention and our free will, then why are there still aliens down here (besides the rep's) who are interfering with our free will.

DW also mentions that we are quarantined, well I can understand that also but it doesn't stop these other aliens being here. My question still stands DW.

Now I get the feeling if there are replies it will be to the tune (there only the bad aliens and they don't care about our free will).

That doesn't cut it for me if we are very much quarantined.

Seth Haniel 10-17-2008 09:53 AM

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Never trust a given date - as most other 'life' forms are from a different space / time continuum
some are in 'no-time' some are 'future' some are 'past'.
The event will happen someday - but trying to put our material earth times to it are not possible.

So just keep on watching the sky - just keep on wondering why.

Magamud 10-17-2008 10:00 AM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Feeler I dig what your doing by the way.

We have to accept our soverignty as part of the creator.

Alot of brainwashed people act like programmed slaves stating all this mumbo jumbo intellectual metaphysical jargon like, it will happen during the ascension, its not our time, use your inner work etc... Seems to me these are just excuses. The time is now! We need to petition our own free will.

The level of deception is immense. Most cultural ideas in the super conscious collective are deceptions. For instance false flag, cultural movements (beatles, lsd, music, New Age movement, education, etc.) Not to mention the poisening by fluoride, and other chemicals causing us to accept this programming and parrot responses.

We dont have to take this ****. Were part of the creator and deserve a good environment to help our evolution.

Its terrible and unfortunately like a good slave who does not know he is a slave will give excuses as to why the illusion should continue.

Weep....

Ali Quadir 10-17-2008 12:02 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gordon (Post 54012)
People are starting to "wake up"? LOL...All of those "people belonging in the federation of light" is in a world of their own. They also like to daydream alot, because it helps them to pretend for them to look good and to feel great!

It's all part of the path. Some of us require to be with our heads in the clouds. If only for a while.

It didn't happen because it could not happen. Those that said it would happen maybe channelled the collective desire of their followers. Not actual physical reality.

Remember that this like anything belonging to current events is just part of the collective dream. It might actually be part of how this information bubbles from the subconscious to the conscious. But the lies and the misinformation should preferably be avoided.. In this situation it clearly wasn't. And that caused many negative effects.

We don't know much about the "psychoverse"... Actually I think we should hire a shaman to explain to us the basics... :naughty:

The only bad thing about all this are the negative effects. Don't let it get to you. If you believed in it or not it's not worth getting angry or sad about. It is what it is. And we'll just smile about it in the future.

It'll be a great story to tell them when finally they DO arrive. Even if I think that will be at least one more decade into the future.

feeler 10-17-2008 06:57 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
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Originally Posted by Tuza (Post 54240)
Thank you Anchor, I understand all that you have said, but David Wilcock stated in his October 14 statement on Divine Cosmos that this did not occur because it would violate our free will.

What I am saying therefore if DW is correct on his theory about alien intervention and our free will, then why are there still aliens down here (besides the rep's) who are interfering with our free will.

DW also mentions that we are quarantined, well I can understand that also but it doesn't stop these other aliens being here. My question still stands DW.

Now I get the feeling if there are replies it will be to the tune (there only the bad aliens and they don't care about our free will).

That doesn't cut it for me if we are very much quarantined.

Excellent points Tuza.

Miriam Delicado and Alex Collier both pointed to the ugly things taking place underground. I brought up this issue of missing children multiple times in the Project Avalon forum, but most are pre-occupied preparing their trips to the hills.

- It's NOT the free will of the children to be kidnapped and be the reptilians’ daily supplements.
- It IS the free will of the vast majority of human adults to see the children of the earth grow up and have happy childhood.

This is a blatant violation of our free will. This is hypocrisy. -feeler

feeler 10-17-2008 07:04 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
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Originally Posted by capreycorn (Post 54219)
just a thought..
the 14th october anouncements mentioned a 2000miles big spaceship next to spaceship earth? 2000miles = our moon (the biggest satellite circling earth)! (remember the moon of The Truman Show..) 14th october was said to be the strongest full moon ....:bleh:

What a perceptive observation capreycorn. It's here all along. It only takes a 180 degree rotation of the satellite for the others to realize what it really is. -feeler

feeler 10-17-2008 07:23 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
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Originally Posted by Magamud (Post 54252)
Feeler I dig what your doing by the way.

We have to accept our soverignty as part of the creator.

Alot of brainwashed people act like programmed slaves stating all this mumbo jumbo intellectual metaphysical jargon like, it will happen during the ascension, its not our time, use your inner work etc... Seems to me these are just excuses. The time is now! We need to petition our own free will.

The level of deception is immense. Most cultural ideas in the super conscious collective are deceptions. For instance false flag, cultural movements (beatles, lsd, music, New Age movement, education, etc.) Not to mention the poisening by fluoride, and other chemicals causing us to accept this programming and parrot responses.

We dont have to take this ****. Were part of the creator and deserve a good environment to help our evolution.

Its terrible and unfortunately like a good slave who does not know he is a slave will give excuses as to why the illusion should continue.

Weep....

Magamud, well said. I weep with you. Others can say I'm suffering from the lower-frequency "victim consciousness" all they want. -feeler

p.s. Even a third-world country like China knew the effects of fluoride. What a joke.


http://www.fluorideresearch.org/412/...2_p111-114.pdf

KathyT 10-17-2008 07:32 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
“The feasibility of aliens "just showing up" without being unanimously invited by humanity would not be congruent with other laws and rules of what it means to be a sovereign being.”

I have way too many neighbors and friends who drop in to my house without being invited.

UFO’s have been dropping in “uninvited” on mankind for years and centuries.

People talk about “laws and rules” of the universe. Where can I find proof of these laws?

I know people have blind faith and make up all sorts of beliefs so that they can follow them.

But proof of a law which says “they/extraterrestrials” can’t “interfere” with us? Can someone please show me where that the existence of that law can be proved?

There is no proof that it exists.
There is no proof that it does not exist.

feeler 10-17-2008 07:50 PM

Re: Oct 14 event canceled due to “free will” per David Wilcock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KathyT (Post 54447)
“The feasibility of aliens "just showing up" without being unanimously invited by humanity would not be congruent with other laws and rules of what it means to be a sovereign being.”

I have way too many neighbors and friends who drop in to my house without being invited.

UFO’s have been dropping in “uninvited” on mankind for years and centuries.

People talk about “laws and rules” of the universe. Where can I find proof of these laws?

I know people have blind faith and make up all sorts of beliefs so that they can follow them.

But proof of a law which says “they/extraterrestrials” can’t “interfere” with us? Can someone please show me where that the existence of that law can be proved?

There is no proof that it exists.
There is no proof that it does not exist.


KathyT, I love your understatement - except that our neighbors and "friends" spray biological/chemical agents all over inside our houses, and bring .44 calibers as gifts to our sons and daughters. -feeler

Ref: 'The Gods of Eden' by William Bramley


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