Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Hi guys
through the past months i watched all your interviews and then watched more videos about your interviewees to inform me better.

but what me really puzzles is, why all the people have different stories. everyone reports different facts and mostly says that the others are disinformed or liars.

especially billy meier (whom you not interviewed until now) claims to be the only contactee on the whole earth and that all the others who tell stories are mentally ill or liars.

so I ask myself: What do you guys really believe of your interviewees?
wouldnt it be damn disappointing to learn that they all lie to you and tell fairy tales?



P.S. i'm really appreciated that you made up this forum - nice work:thumb_yello:

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

They do the interviews and leave the rest to our own discernment.

Whatever is said does not matter. Many of us who have incarnated here at this time have a very good sense of truth. I can spot lies a mile away, and i suggest you learn how to do the same before you post garbage like this which obviously displays your lack of respect in what these two people are trying to do.

Try not to come accross so rude next time and maybe then people will take you up on an inteligent discussion.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Hey..

I completely agree with lock 'n load...it doesnt really matter what is said or what kerry or bill believe...they do the interviews and we take what we want from those interviews.
Maybe what all the interviewees have said is true and then some...or maybe what they say is all rubbish...the important thing is is that the information that they are giving is out there and not suppressed. (imo)
Everyone should look at the presented information and whatever resonates with them they should go with it...i cant stress enough the importance of using our intuition and gut feeling.

“Whenever you have truth it must be given with love, or the message and the messenger will be rejected” - Mahatma Gandhi

Peace

bananaman

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

as far as I know they have reliable sources, most of them have worked or know people inside government, it's a good hint don't you think?
yes, use your gut feeling and do some research on top :naughty:

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Yep, and also weather bill and kerry belive it or not is besides the point. They are interviewing people, whistleblowers who will mostly belive what they are saying is true. Its up to you/us to put the pices together with our own research and come and decide what u want to belive.

One thing to think of, especially with ex military/governemt employees is compartmentalisation. What they may belive to be true, may not nesicerally be the full story, but just the part they have been told or belive. It may not always match up with other confessions, as they will have only been told the minmum, in most cases, to what is needed for them to know for their role. Also could have been told some disinfo.

CT

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

I dont know if you guys have noticed, but Mr.King Lear was one of the interviewees on PC. I think his post was supposed to be "tongue in cheek".

By the way John, I like your tinfoil hat much better. :winksmiley02:

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Hmm Galaxy, i dont for a second think this is john Lear posting...tis someone using his image...apparently taking the p**s....
i think i will pass from debating on this thread ...trusting my instinct here!

peace to all of you!

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Journalism is impartial, you ask the questions they respond. Camelot isn't any different. What Bill and Kerry "Believe" is their own business. Their own professional opinion is different. There is a difference between what you believe and what your opinion is.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Hi, King Lear -

Thanks for the question. But your quote above is not accurate - about Camelot, at least. What you describe is absolutely not the case.

Have I misunderstood you?

Kerry and I are happy to answer specific questions about witness testimony.

We know, of course, that there are anomalies, like Clifford Stone’s 57 species of aliens (and Henry Deacon’s “over 40”) vs. Dan Burisch’s telling us that he knew of only three, plus a fourth interdimensional species of which he knew little. In this case, Dan is certainly not hiding anything... it’s almost certain that he was not told about the others.

John Lear’s information contains a lot of open speculation (although Henry Deacon told us he was “80% correct”). Leo Zagami said that Cristoforo Barbato (who was interviewed by Luca Scantamburlo, who we talked to on video) was being deceived by his Vatican Source about the 'Jesuit Footage' of 'Planet X'. Etc.

But most of our witnesses tell stories that are pretty much compatible... the puzzle pieces really do fit together pretty well.

Very best, Bill

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

And as youve outlined before Bill, the lie is different on every level. Which is why some stories may conflict.

But its not the mionor details that are of any importance (and its usually only the minor ones that conflict) Generally the major facts fit together and coincide with the bigger picture.

And personally, anyone who says that everyone else is a liar is most likely to be telling lies themselves. As my signature states ; Real knowledge is to know the extent of ones ignorance.

Anyone who thinks they know it all or feels that they are in a place to discredit other people is only discrediting themselves.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Yea, I thought of that after posting! I guess I was naive to think the troublemakers wouldnt come crawling out of the woodwork so soon. I thought it was John's sense of humour since he's always getting bashed on other forums. Oh well, I better fine tune my "feelers". :original:

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Thank you Bill for this honest answer, that was exactly what i wanted to know.



@lock'N'load
can you please tell me why youre are so unfriendly?
i stated here a question which i think most of the neutral and sceptic first-watchers of the interviews have in their mind.

This wasnt garbage, lack of respect, rude nor unintelligent

is it just because of the "Lear" that you reply so agressively?
or is it because you cant accept that there are still some sceptics out there who doubt your religion?


P.S. it isnt to my knowledge that i anywhere admitted to be THE John Lear, i would not have expected that he is such hated:sad:
i like the oldster:original: let people say what they wish.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Your approach when talking to other people is the height of rudeness, and i show you the same respect that i see you showing others.

Did you enjoy being on the receiving end?

I didnt know who you were, if you came on and called yourself santa claus i would have responded in the same manner.


"My religion" ? Your condescending attitude puts you on the list, and just so you know.. your the only one.

Do try and talk to people the way in which you would like to be talked to yourself.

And just so were clear on why im being unfriendly, study this statement ; "Its not what you say, its how you say it"
You reap what you sow. I have no tolerance for arrogance.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

If this is your motto then i could not be rude enough to you.:roll1:


What a kind of Aggro are you dude?

I just asked a question, nothing more and nothing less.
Isnt it a normal reaction to ask oneself: "if people would tell me so much of this stuff, would i believe all this? Especially if there are some contradictions"

And so I asked this question and Bill replied in a kind manner and not with insultings like you locknload!

Put me on every list you want locknload, it doesnt bother me.
Conduit closed

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

What a bizarre response to the original fair question by, hopefully, John Lear.

There is no "fear" thinking in the questioning of everything. It is positive and leads to correct information, ultimately. How boring it is to read skeptical responses of any fashion. There are a multitude of possibilities always.

Bill Ryan and Kerry are time travelers from the future and Mr. Lear is their genetically modified puppet pretending to challenge cumulative information. Thus and arrival closer to the reality at hand through many twists and turns... FOR us.

May this space avoid pettiness to be found at ATS and the like.

I am inspired by John Lear's voice. I am awakened from the efforts of Bill and Kerry.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Bill and I are different people.

Wheras Bill seems kind enough to respond in a different manner than the one which you used to initiate the question, I prefer to answer the question in the same manner as it is asked. Treat a bully like a bully, Treat a gentleman like a gentleman.

I hoped that you would have learned something from this, but you obviously have not.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Hi again, KL:

Pleased I could help.

A quiet note:

NOT OKAY HERE. But I'm assuming that you didn't mean this literally.

Friendly advice: you might be writing things that others may find easy to misunderstand. This can cause conflict where there should be none. Your original post (top of thread) might have come over to some as skeptical, dismissive and unhelpful. I did not assume that was your intention, and replied in detail.

Moral (to all, including self): it's easy to write stuff, in passion or enthusiasm, that's not intended to be disruptive, but is. Always preview your own posts, be someone else, and imagine what it's like being that other person reading that.

Very best, Bill

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

King Lear I didn't find your post rude, I actually found it to be an intelligent question.
Like any topic regarding "beliefs" people get highly defensive when their beliefs feel threatened. Doesn't matter if it is religion or aliens. I feel this is why so many people fall into a defensive trap. They feel like they have it worked out they believe whom they believe and how dare we question anything. Same old stuff just a new religion. I tend to keep an open mind and prefer my own gut to someones else's intuition or psychic connection to some off world being.
To me following the predictions of "some person" is no more intelligent then following the bible. It is just another sheeple movement. Be it blindly following your government, religion or alien expert it all ends in the same you are being controlled by someone else's idea's.
I welcome all the interviews because it spurs my imagination and adds to the level of "what if's" in my little personal universe but I sure as heck am not going to pack my family up and move closer to the equator. Oddly enough my gut instincts says that would be a crazy thing to do and my gut has never wronged me in my short 31 years of life so I prefer it over someone else's assessment of the situation.
I am sure this will be considered highly offensive to most just like any cliches belief were doubt or questioning are considered to be go against the herd. But then I never have been one to fit into a herd very well myself.
King Lear thanks for the blunt to the point question, it's refreshing to find someone who doesn't worry about niceties.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Ahh but you see the human problem is intolerance and arrogance.
Its alright to be sceptical, but when someone comes accross as being arrogant it can light fires in peoples bellies. Im all for inteligent discussion and i keep and open mind about everything, but when someone comes along and talks like he's walked the walk it can be very frustrating to those of us who are open and willing to talk about things without feeling as if we are inferior for what we believe.

I'm quite sure he didnt enjoy how i talked to him and that was my intention.
Why? .. thats easy :tongue2:

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Thank you carliec

And I'm glad that Bill understood that i stated this question without a bad intention nor in a dismissive way.

Get that straight, I admire the two for the wonderful and deeply committed work they do!:thumb_yello:

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Lock in load, you are obvousley the agressor. He asked one question, I wouldnt worry about it. We shouldnt be arguing about this stuff anyways. You posted the first hostile word when you called his question garbage. Their is no such thing as a stupid question.

love is forgiving

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Nope, im quite sure if you read through the topic thouroughly you'll find his post is full of inuendos.

But that aside, i offer a hand of friendship to King Lear :)

Peace and best wishes

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Brother, let it go.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

[QUOTE=Bill Ryan;

Friendly advice: you might be writing things that others may find easy to misunderstand. This can cause conflict where there should be none. Your original post (top of thread) might have come over to some as skeptical, dismissive and unhelpful. I did not assume that was your intention, and replied in detail.

Moral (to all, including self): it's easy to write stuff, in passion or enthusiasm, that's not intended to be disruptive, but is. Always preview your own posts, be someone else, and imagine what it's like being that other person reading that.

Very best, Bill[/QUOTE]


wise words captain Bill !!

It is something i try and make a habit...survey my posts before sending as another might interpret it...yet, sometimes we can have a knee-jerk reaction...and sometimes, we need to go back and acknowledge a person if we feel it was a judgement..!

I learn from this forum every day....we are all teachers
( in denial sometimes lol)

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

The question that started this tread was a valid question. It was directed at Bill and Kerry and was asking a direct question based on a persons observation. I did not feel that it was a personal attack and I don't think anyone else should have taken that position. There is already so much crap on other sites that we don't need to have members attacking each other over something that someone takes personal.

We all can ask for clarification on a point if we feel that a question was asked inappropriately. Please, let's be growups about this.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Locknload, if I were you, I'd try to practice what I preached. You should edit your post and while keeping the same opinion as is your right, to word it in a kinder and gentler fashion, otherwise you come across as a hypocrit. This isn't a place for hostility and even though I partially agree with what you said, the tone of each of your posts completely turned me off and made me not even want to consider your opinions. You are the only person in this entire thread with any hint of negativity. Until you learn to see this, you will continue on your arrogant way, regardless of how correct your views are on many topics. Your offer of friendship to the original poster here did not seem sincere at all.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

In 'Educating Rita' there is a classic line, when the Prof. aka Michael Caine gets a bit wound up, Rita turns to him and with a twinkle asks "Is that you when you're angry ?"
She doesn't take the bite therefore is not bitten. :mfr_lol:

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Ok people, Bill has asked you once already to keep it civilised, now I'm telling you!

Please bear in mind when replying to post's that this is a global community, and everyone's 1st language is NOT english! Therefore the way the post is worded may not be the way the poster intended to convey his/her message.

If in doubt ask for clarification. No more warnings, this thread gets locked next time!

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

I think this is a very important topic and I thank you King Lear for asking such a question. I have my own little addition to this question. What do you guys (Bill and Kerry foremost) think about William Cooper's MAJESTYTWELVE?

Especially these lines:


and



These are just questions and I am just asking them. I am not accusing anyone of anything. Although since I like William Cooper very much and you guys have a tribute page made for him I think it is a fair enough question.

Thank you guys very much for your continuous and productive work. It is a good thing that people have a forum to discuss these things and I'd like to thank you once more for this beautiful effort.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Thanks, Elirien:

These are very good questions - specific, and clearly coming from a place of genuine curiosity - with good reason! So it was an excellent contribution.

I'd be happy for this thread to be used for this purpose after its interesting start. :original:

But I need to come back to this, and I will do so. I'm happy for members to post questions like this (or any others which are specific) and Kerry or I can offer our personal opinions based on what we feel we know. I think that might be valuable and interesting.

They will only be opinions. In some cases, we'll have no opinion, because we just don't know at all...!

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Hi there,
We don't believe everything of course... But on the contrary most of our witnesses cross correlate and do agree for the most part.

As for Meier, whereas we would love to interview him I can't explain why his Plejaren contacts would tell him that... I have to say it isn't true... Many have contact.. and I do believe that this may be a misinterpretation of a communication -- all of us influence the clarity of the information we receive. Just by observing it all we change it...

Kerry

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

As with all the interesting intelligent individuals we have met through Bill and Kerry, it is difficult to tell where the intelligence ends and the delusion begins. We see them, Bill and Kerry, also struggle with some of the conflicting predictions regarding the prophesied earth changes.

We have to be our own guides in this regard. Prophecies fail. Things change. The future is only Potential, not chiseled in stone. As for me I glean as much information as I can, using what I can and ignoring the rest. The intelligent part will bear fruit - the delusion will be for naught. This is as it has always been.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Hi Bill,

thanks for your fast reply and of course for what you have written :original:

I'll be anxiously waiting. Some of these questions bothered me quite a while when I was watching your interviews and I believe that this forum is a better medium then e-mailing you guys, since it would probably be good to have input of other members of this forum (especially those involved in the document).


By the way, I look at it the same way you do. It's just opinions. I didn't have even the chance to listen to William Cooper live, let go shake his hand but his sincerity on these matters give me a good feeling so to speak and since I am currently investigating and researching his claims (pretty slowly) I can see how his research ties in together. Still it's just on the opinion level.


Well 'nuff ranting for tonight. Thanks again and I'll be waiting for your perspective on the matter.

Have a good night/day all of you.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

I do thank Bill and Kerry for this web site. My take that it is healthy to question things , research, test , study and connect to the web links, question everything to undestand . If our spiritual self is of ancient descent,
imagine if we could remember 1% of our past lives. I question everything,
daily not because I am a skeptic but because it is easy to be misled as our emotions lead us to become blind fanatics easily manipulated by misinformation. This is a historical fact as we struggle to rewrite our history books , understand our true origin and begin to unlock the secrets of the
universe. Love and peace to all.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

[QUOTE=King Lear;2163]Hi guys
through the past months i watched all your interviews and then watched more videos about your interviewees to inform me better.

but what me really puzzles is, why all the people have different stories. everyone reports different facts and mostly says that the others are disinformed or liars.

especially billy meier (whom you not interviewed until now) claims to be the only contactee on the whole earth and that all the others who tell stories are mentally ill or liars.

so I ask myself: What do you guys really believe of your interviewees?
wouldnt it be damn disappointing to learn that they all lie to you and tell fairy tales?
I did not think you were out of line in anyway. Just my two cents worth. It is veryhard to know if it is true until time tells us. love and peace

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

[QUOTE=nobody;4521]When looking at a subject as vast as this it sometimes help to read as much as you can before coming to any definite conclusions.
Not to take everything at face value as it stands but to look at all the pieces as a greater whole it will make it much easier to assimilate what is fact and what is fiction.

Im highly curious of anyone who claims to have all the answers. Theres no one person out there who has the right to give themselves exclusivity of information, and you'll probably notice that our very own media institutions conducts business in this way.

And that has been a very effective way of keeping a reign on information, so when i see someone claiming that it is only they who are informed and educated it tends to raise my eyebrow to their true motives.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Do we struggle? :original:

It doesn't feel like it... the summary of our current views are here in our major article 2008: The Future is Now.

Camelot is quite a large site now, and it's understandable if visitors miss the clarifications and summaries we've posted.

These (in my personal opinion) are the most important, and may be essential reading for anyone thinking of posting questions on this thread:

http://projectcamelot.org/2008.html

http://projectcamelot.org/big_picture.html (this is updated by the '2008' article above, in thelight of the decommissioning of the man-made Stargates and Looking Glasses)

http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html

http://projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch_summary.html

http://projectcamelot.org/commentary.html

Do (seriously) read these and then get back to us. You'll find that most things are pretty clearly stated - and every now and then ther's a clear "don't know yet".

But no confusion, and not many anomalies. (See earlier on this thread for one or two of the obvious ones, which are obvious and well-acknowledged.)

* We're not yet convinced about Planet X. We're interested, and watching carefully. But not at all convinced there's a serious problem (although a large unacknowledged object may possibly exist out there). We DO respect serious researchers who insist that a problem DOES exist.

* I do not believe there will be a catastrophe in 2012. I'm pretty relaxed about that. I think there "was" going to have been one, but that it has been averted, and that's what much of the complexity of the last 50 years has been about. (Also why the underground bases are there.)

* I'm as sure as I can be that time travel, and the objectives of the various races of visiting future humans, are the key to understanding the huge complexity that's at the heart of major events in the last 50-70 years.

* The real confusion lies in interpreting the agendas and actions of the various hidden factions battling it out invisibly for control of the world - here and now. This is (in my view) what may affect our lives in the immediate future.

* We are more concerned now about a faked alien invasion than we were when we erote our '2008' article in January this year. That's about the only thing that's changed since then.

That's almost the best I can do without re-writing all the referenced articles. :biggrin2:

I'll get to William Cooper in a moment.

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Not all leaks!

Many of those listed we do not know and/or have not met - and we don't feel qualified to have an opinion. Nothing else should be read into that. This below is my personal positive response:

* I trust Linda Howe.

* I believe John Lear and Richard Hoagland are honest and have a great deal of integrity.

* I believe some (but not all) of the Apollo moon missions were faked, and that some of the footage was filmed on Earth. But we DID go to the moon. The entire story, though, is complex and very far from told.

We just don;t know enough about this - sorry. You can ask John Lear, though - he has just joined the Forum! :biggrin2:

Re William Cooper himself, John Lear's account of Cooper to us (in our original 2006 interview) rang true: that he was an assistant in Navy Intelligence who DID have the key to the safe and DID have access to certain documents, but that subsequently he got "UFO Disease" and began to exaggerate both his stories and his claimed military/intelligence status.

That's my paraphrase of what I recall John said, without looking it up. It felt accurate - but we have no data apart from John's account.

The core of what Cooper said, though, was very probably true enough, and he (with John Lear) had a very important influence in the late 80s and early 90s - convicving many young researchers (including myself) that things were both more complex and more diabolical than had been hitherto suspected by most.

Do ask John for his views!

Very best to all - Bill

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

Dear Kerry,
could you please tell us more about the huge rectangular craft you saw in Switzerland?
Did you research if the Swiss flight control did recognize anything in their air space at this night?

Re: Dear Kerry and Bill do you believe everything?
 

I hope this thread does develop into a place where the claims and counter-claims of PC interviewees can be discussed and tested. I think it would be very useful and would give everyone the opportunity to maintain objectivity.

It's worth pointing out to Kerry, Bill and all readers here that the cross correlation of testimony is no indication of it's value. That there may be a chorus of agreement between 'whistleblowers' (on any piece of information) is no indication of it's truth if the chorus is conducted by a single party feeding certain lines to us via those 'whistleblowers'. This is Propaganda 101.

Quite often the information itself may have no esoteric or prophetic value whatever but instead is created purely to justify specific elements of the agenda of the 'powers that be' or is pure distraction and fearmongering. Most of us have turned our backs on the mainstream media and religions, both of which are classic agents of herd control.

Do we imagine then that the 'powers that be' have likewise turned their backs on us? And are happy to leave us to our truth seeking through alternative sources? I don't think so. They desperately fear the loss of control (which mainstream media and religion afforded them) so they're actively involved in creating those alternative sources which we seek.

For example, when we are told that "Saddam had looking glass technology -- Gaddhaffi gave it to him -- the US military went in to get it, etc etc" ... Don't you feel relieved and grateful for the invasion of Iraq? At least on that score? Grateful for the 'prescience' and 'wisdom' of "the powers that be" that came to our rescue before Saddam could blow the planet to rubble? Grateful that there was someone 'looking' out for us? Making the right decisions in a 'dangerous world'? Ahhh the 'powers that be' work in mysterious ways don't they? Mission accomplished.

Wouldn't it be ironic if in the final analysis, all they succeeded in doing with these attempts was to bring people together, in places like this, to see through them as never before. I hope so.