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Just a quick note, I am pleased to see that this thread is host to a great diversity of beliefs and religious backgrounds. I think that diversity is the definition of a healthy society. I am proud to be in the heady cultural gumbo of the Pacific North West!
SEIRCRAM: The house building web site that I was referencing earlier is calearth.org I spoke to my friend Hooman on the phone and his email address is hoomanfazly@yahoo.com, please feel free to ask him questions, he is looking forward t hearing from you and anyone else who likes what they see on the site! Peace of Mind, Wormhole |
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Hi Wormhole,
You asked where we had purchased our radio equipment, mostly off of ebay over the past 5 years as money allowed. Also we just purchased a book through our food coop, "Azure Standard" entitled "Preserving Food Without Freezing or Canning" by Terre Vivante. I think this book may have some of the information you were asking about earlier. We should get the book in about 10 days, so I will let you know what I found out. Elijah_house |
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Some are frozen for pies. Nothing like a hot apple pie fresh from the oven... Most of this batch will be apple sauce. I have two more boxes to do. Someone posted about root cellers. The real key is underground you can even dig a "trench line it and put away enough to use in a couple of weeks in each trench." You put cabbage, potatoe, carrots any thing that can be used from a celler. IF you need to store grain use a air tight bucket and drop a small square of dry ice "wrap in paper towel".. Pour in the grain / flour is o.k. as well then seal as soon as you see the "steam" which is the vapor showing all the O2 has been forced out. This is also a way you can store small buckets of very good apples... That is what they do in those huge storeage places control the amount of oxygen and keep them from freezing With apples you do well to wrap each one in a tissue paper first and make sure each one is sound. I will post more on storage of food if asked. I do have a question... How many of you have on hand right now enough distilled water to last 10 to 15 days. "This would be in case of your water not being in the tap". |
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Hi all – This post address volcanoesm, tsunamis and quakes, oh my!
Thanks everyone for some great posts! I love being part of this Ground Crew – I don’t feel so alone or nuts anymore. However, I have to admit that this is distracting me during the weekdays! Perhaps I need to start a new thread for those like me to learn moderation – this website is ADDICTIVE! After this post tonight I am only allowing myself to post on the weekends….! Being a Geologist, I thought I would respond to some concerns voiced about earthquakes, subduction zones, tsunamis and volcanoes here in the PNW. Indeed! - All of these phenomena are related and need to be considered. However… As most of us know, we live near a subduction zone. Basically, this means that we live on the leading edge of a continental plate (the North American Plate to be specific), which is slowly colliding with an oceanic plate (the Juan De Fuca plate to be exact). When our advancing continental shelf runs up and over the oceanic plate, forcing the oceanic plate deep down into the earth, all of that “good earth stuff” that comprised the oceanic plate melts. The melt eventually makes its way back up topside and spews out lovely melted magma from our dearly departed oceanic crust (very simplified mind you and its mixed with other stuff of course). The result? The everlasting beauty of our Cascade Mountain Range, of course! We have all been warned about the mega thrust earthquakes that occur out here every 500 years or so. And yes we are about due for another one. A large subduction earthquake would be in the range of 7.0 – 8.0 on the Richter Scale, which is a logarithmic scale; i.e. for every increase in whole number, the energy released by the earthquake increases by a factor of 10. So, A 7.0 would release 10 x the energy of a 6.0. A 9.0 would really be a whopper!! So….. a few thoughts: 1. Not all earthquakes will result in widespread devastation. Depending on the type of energy released, the epicenter of the quake, and the construction of buildings, the devastation can be a little or a lot. Most of our earthquakes in the PNW happen off the coast, within the subduction zone area. Quakes also occur very frequently (in the 2.0 to 3.0 range around most all of our volcanoes. For those of you in Oregon, please check out DOGAMIs website for excellent information on earthquake destruction zones, maps, tsunami information. Here is the link: http://www.oregongeology.com/sub/default.htm 2. Not all earthquakes release tsunamis. It depends where the earthquake is centered, its depth, and the general direction of the energy expended. Sometimes people in an earthquake can tell the direction from which the earthquake originated. As a Geologist, it is hard to believe that even a 9.0 earthquake occurring off the coast of Oregon would create a tsunami large enough and with enough volume of water to reach Portland, which is approximately 70 miles inland and upstream of Astoria. Even with a 100 foot tsunami wave, the vertical (over the coast range) and horizontal (the areal mass it must cover) hurdles would be immense, likely reducing the tsunami effect to near nothing. 3. In the event of a volcanic eruption, Seattle and Portland would not be wiped out. But…depending on wind direction either city could be affected by ash. Also, large debris flows could move into the Duwamish River. But Seattle’s biggest impact would come from debris being washed into Elliot Bay. Would Seattle be wiped out by a volcanic eruption? NO. As for Portland, it could be affected by light ash falls from an erupting Mt. Hood but it would not be affected by lava flows, lahars or anything like that. Would Portland be wiped out by a volcanic eruption? No. There are some good websites that you can go to where you can find well researched, science-based information on the potential for natural disasters to occur in these areas. But I must warn you these fact-based websites based on years of scientific study so they won’t be as much fun to read or get excited as the multitude of disinformation out there. I figure that my best chances for making good decisions about the safety me and my family and now all of us in our Ground Crew is to do my best to try to separate the speculation and fear-mongering from the truth and reality. I try to cross-check what I read on alternative webpages to make sure what I am reading makes sense to me…. What is great about our newly formed e-group is that if I do come across something that distresses me (economically, politically, or naturally) I can post it here for comment! |
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I've read all the posts here and will post because years ago I had many dreams about being part of a team. In those dreams, the team was always sent off "to the Northwest." Now, I can truthfully say that, from that place inside myself where my inspiration comes from, I am not truly drawn to the Northwest, but that's what the dreams were about. So I don't know what that means for me, whether I'll end up in the Northwest or not. I keep waiting for that internal guidance to kick in again.
Nonetheless, this is a very good practical discussion. Just in case I do get drawn to the Northwest, it's great to know about you folks. I have many survival skills and all kinds of low-tech living skills and would pretty much like to be living primitively now, even without any thoughts of threats of destruction. In terms of community, it's really important to examine what your true feelings are about living without modern stuff, including electricity, metals, wire, paper, and hot water. If you love primitive camping, you'll have no problem until your modern gear breaks or wears out. If you think you'll have a database ... do you think you can happily live without it? Can you make pots out of clay? And if you don't have clay, can you still find a way to make pots? Anything stored up from the modern world will be used up at some point because you've got to be thinking in terms of years here. The old skills will be what is needed. Working with your hands, working with the land, and all the physical labor that entails. If you have no skills at all other than office skills, please learn something now, anything that would be useful in a non-electric world. I would recommend that everyone should have a really good pair of hiking boots, a knife, and a firestarter (not a Bic or Zippo), and know how to build a fire. |
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http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/index.php
I check that site daily there are many other ways to look on the web page if you just go to usgs.gov you can get everything from water movement to mud flows. Any area of "Earth Science" is found there. If you have been looking you can understand that many subduction quakes are followed by a range building event. Rainer is the big guy it is covered with ice the ice never melts even in the hot summer due to how high the top is. That is why the mud flow could present a major traffic jam. Or not.. I am going now. |
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Was about to sign off and spotted this part and thread.
Here I am. Nice to meet yah all. From another forum a post I made. " New guy here, so just a few cents worth. As an old time ham radio guy and current user of VHF Marine and CB radios( i live on a boat), I think that radio is probably going to be the only things active. The more wattage (power) the better. Good high ground, and antennas, will help a great deal in talking and listening ability. A source of possible communication would be a local ham radio person. You can recognize them by the big antennas above their homes. We should all be looking up anyway. Many of them are interested in what is being discussed here at Avalon." |
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Hi Carrie1971 - The thing about earthquakes in the PNW is that there will eventually be the BIG one and so few people will be prepared. The 72-hour kit will not be enough, I think preparation for at least two weeks to keep you afloat before any services start to come back. I am having trouble now trying to pull together an "urban survival kit" to handle these types of disasters for my family AND prepare for a much more ominous world catastrophe.... I think I could plan a move from the US to the southern hemisphere, but I would have to do a LOT of convincing to a lot of people... so its just not possible for me right now. But as it is, I am thinking of researching places in southern Oregon, perhaps near Steens Mountain. It is very isolated down there are quite out of the way....
Also, Norval - I was considering a HAM radio but have read that it is expensive and that unless you are prepared to operate one that it may not be worth it? Can you tell us if there is some kind of HAM-related radio that someone might purchase to just "listen in" on the goings on? I am just now beginning to look. What about shortwave radio? I told someone earlier that I am thinking of a shortwave radio as I grew up listening to that with my parents. Is there some kind of radio we should be investing in? Thanks so much. |
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Hi Norval,
We have drake 3 transceivers and hallicrafter model S382 transceiver, we are still looking for dc power supplies for the drake (we have a dc 3 and tr 3). Most of our stuff is tube because it is impervious to the electromatic pulse of nuclear bombs. My husband was in the coast guard for 14 years active duty and 3 years reserve, the field he worked in was electronics/communications. We also have a Ham Radio and Morse Code software course and exams which we have not completed yet. We also have schematics for almost all the tube radios out there on CD's. We also have antennas. Do you know of a source for dc power supplies. We have a lot of other miscellaneous radio equipment, always had the intention of getting Ham radio operator license. So now may be the time to get going on this project. I spent some time in Ecuador with some Christinan Missionaries and he was a Ham Operator, this is of course how he communicated with friends and families in the states. This is what sparked my interest in this area and my husband has a background in the coast guard in electronics/communications and is working on the technical part of repairing the old equipment. elijah_house |
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Hello Providence and elijah_house, and to all reading here.
Try this area of the forum to get filled in on some of the info about radio communications potentials. Ham Radio stuff http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=300 Project Avalon Forum, Resources, How to learn about stuff, Amateur Radio |
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I live in Mt Baker's shadow...near Bellingham. I also have had many thoughts about establishing community thorughout my life, but never really knew how to act upon it. I have scanned most of the posts and everything listed by everyone is what I have already read or started to plan for my/our future.
This is an old, but interesting article on money and different views of economy. http://www.yesmagazine.org/article.asp?ID=886 It comes off of this site, well worth checking out, http://www.fourthcornerexchange.com/ However the article is written by Bernard Lietaer ( who wrote a book called "The Future of Money" which none of the US book publishers would publish in the US). Anyway it's a great resource to re-think and re-tool how we want our community economy to look like. I am not an economist, which is why I have been trying to figure out how to do things differently (meaning with respect to others and earth). |
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Hey DOODAH: Nice to have you with us. I lived off grid in New Mexico for several years, it was the best time I ever had. I was by myself in a straw-bale adobe, with a living roof. I put in a gravity feed well on the hill with use of a windmill to pump the water up, got a solar panel and went to the car section of the hardware store. Bought a deep cycle battery and headlights and hooked up my lighting system for under $100. Hot water was heated on the wood stove and from a black hose and reflection system off the roof, though I had a propane refrigerator, I began experimenting with ammonia in a closed hose system, I was able to get freezing temperatures by letting the sun heat the hose! I think it is possible to set up a solar refrigeration system that is closed and never needs to use fuel. Unfortunately, I never finished the project and I live in the city:tears:, though I'm in a geo-thermal building, I miss the country. I've been looking for a place to rent out in Washington or Oregon and I am still trying to make up my mind as to where the best area would be. I'd like to plant a garden again! Glad to have you with us. I have also had the dreams, though different, but I know what you mean.
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NORVAL: Just getting into being a HAM. I'm glad your here to help out. I am also trying to see what I can get going on limited funds. Just now I'm inch-worming my way through the "Radio Amateur's Handbook". I don't have the lingo to talk shop yet, so I think I'll be quiet and read! Welcome to the thread!
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Hi Wormhole,
The best and first radio is one that can be run on 12 volts DC (common car batteries) and household current (110 vac (volts Alternating Current)) Get one that can receive or tune as many bands / frequencies as you can. Dog whistle to microwave if possible. Play with it, get to know and how to use it. Many of the ham radio folks are very interested in just what we are researching here. Nice to meet Yah. |
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I'll be headed out of "range" for a week, I can't wait to come back and see how Avalon has grown! I have a question for PROVIDENCE: In your opinion, do you think that the quake activity has increased or has our capacity to measure increased and thus it appears as though there is more activity, when in fact we are simply just aware of it more often? If activity has increased, what are your theories?
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Hello NW ground crew!
I live in seattle, I am a welder, shipyard lacky. I am glad to see this thread alive and well. Seems we got the "right stuff" Well, cheers. be posting soon. If you have any questions for me feel free to PM. |
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Welcome empathy,
I have 2 grown sons that live in your neck of the woods. Always good to have new talent on board |
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Hello All :)
Douglas County checking in! BTW Newly Awakened, thanks for the great tip using trash cans for water, I have been wracking my brain for ideas for large-capacity water storage on a tight budget. I have some 5-8 gallon containers filled, and buy more each pay day along with reusing milk jugs and 2 liter bottles. Also, it is the harvest season for many fruits and vegetables, I got a dehydrator at Walmart for under $40 and have been using that quite a bit. Dried and powdered up some eggs as an experiment, worked great! For skills, not really any technical ones. I am co-op minded, and usually have people in need of some help sharing my home with me. At this point, I am the only one in my household who has awakened, I am hoping the others are coming along soon. I am enjoying this thread, a lot of great ideas :) |
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Hi Doodle bug,
We are in southern Oregon, klamath county, we lived in douglas county for awhile. Here is a link for quality bulk foods and is based right here in Oregon, www.azurestandard.com, you can purchase items online or form a coop which is what we have done, with a large enough order they drop the shipping charges, thus the benefit of the coop. We have been very pleased with their products and have been purchasing from them for several years. They have a large variety of goods including bulk items, organic, dried fruits, beans, rice, grains, flours, seeds, healthy snacks, dairy products and even refrigerated items, frozen items and produce. elijah_house |
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Doodlebug, trash cans are great as a quick fix, but the plastic does contain small amounts of lead. If you own your place and plan on staying for awhile check out;
www.conservationtechnology.com and download their rainwater collection catalog, they have everything, pumps, filters, storage etc. Right now, my storage is a single rainwater collector from Lee Valley, only holds 40 gallons. M |
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Speaking of trash cans, we use the old galv. metal ones with a heavy construction trash bag liner sealed inside the metal trash can to store our bulk emergency food in. Rodents can't get into them and they are water tight when sealed with caulking.
Yes, an old type crystal radio set is good too. :thumb_yello: Many good ideas here, many talents showing up also. Living aboard a boat gives the option of changing locations with all your possessions quickly. Not ocean travel capable though but I could make it to Alaska if I had to. :welcomeani: My wife and I are "into" what these "visitors" are up to here on earth. Disclosure, I am sure, will be more catastrophic than any war we have thus far seen. Sorry to say, but most people are not going to make the room for change, as I recently heard, "some won't, or can't adjust their thinking." Many will be the blind leading the blind so to put it. NEVER give up hope. It is yours, just like your personal integrity and honor, those things can never be taken from you. :original: |
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Hello,
I'm new here also. I live in the centre of BC and work in economic development (NGO) My background includes Banking, small business. I have government contacts as well as private at some interesting levels. Pacific Northwest (Cascadia) is interesting as a base as it already is being hived off into an economic region (PNWER.org) which includes Alaska, Yukon, Alberta,British Columbia, Washington, Idaho, Montana and Oregon. This means the platform to create a self sustaining unit is already in place, if we know how to use it. In the meantime, we need a project to put activities to ground. I would suggest the forming of a matrix of local markets, farmers markets and community markets so that we can provide a base to build small business off....This takes coordination not cash and it will give us something to sink our teeth into. As for nukes and other scares, its best we deal with the problems of the day as they unfold rather than speculate....Speculation is a weapon of the other side. |
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When I was a young person a older person remembered the War of the worlds it was only a Radio show. The story was that we were being "invaded" by people from mars... I guess there were more than a few people who ran into the streets. It makes me wonder what will happen when the national news has 24 7 coverage??? Life is a Gift and I know my soul was given a great one to be here at this "time / place". |
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Empathy here, I guess I have many skills that are useful. I have an understanding of metallurgy and repair work on ships. I know a bit about gardening, and can climb a tree... with a chainsaw. I have a lot of energy and am always willing to help those who are truly in need. Who knows what kind of bizarre circumstances we will be facing here in the northwest, I live in the Puget sound area and when the %#$^ hits the fan you need all the grunts you can get. And I am a genuine Grunt.
Please add me to your friends list only if you are a person who understands what response-ability means. Thanks and good luck this winter. It's not the end of the world ^_^;.... right? |
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While I do not think anyone knows for sure what exactly would happen on a scientific basis, on a "messages from out there" basis, we are talking about the equivalent of a major earthquake happening EVERYWHERE -- as in the "ground turning to jello for 5 minutes through out the world." I am only pointing this out so that others might think along the lines of, "If my house/shop/garage/whatever was leveled by a polar shift earthquake, would I want to rethink where I am storing things NOW?" As in you just might like to keep some supplies (short-term food, water, digging equip.) outside in a small(er) shed in case an unexpected quake event took place. |
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This is my first post though I have been a "lurker" since Project Avalon started. Just want to check-in on this thread. I have a couple of beautiful young children. They currently live with my dear friend, with whom I had been married. My priority is to stay close to them and so I see myself likely being limited in future moves to any safe area. (Their mom is not open to any of the subject matter that is being discussed at Avalon.) However, I do desire to establish a rapport with the NW ground crew. Who knows, one day I may end up moving to a future safe area established by the ground crew, bringing my girls along. Right now, I am trying to stay open to the one I think of as the Creator Spirit with respect to the unfolding of this incredibly grand adventure story. I'll keep in touch. |
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Wow finally a place to connect. I have started a community called Angelite Center to gather those who feel the calling to be of service to others.
I am building a 5,000 square foot main building. I have Tepees, log cabins, and trailers and a RV for temporary housing. I have known all this for more than 20 years after a visit from a member of the galactic federation who showed me the future and taught me what I could do to help. It has sounded so crazy for so long but now most of the things he showed me and I shared with others has begun to come true. The earth changes, our weather going to two seasons, and many more things. He left me a manual of how to set up the communities and told me we needed to connect the communities to share resources. I have been here on the land getting ready and now I am welcoming any who feel the calling to be of service to others to gather here. I have solar, fruit trees and teach local medicinal herbs. I have a ham radio and license. I am willing to share all I have with others who want to come and be part of this core group to put this together. I have plenty of food to feed others who come to share in the labor. I have a milk cow and chickens. I have many heirloom seeds, I was told what grain to grow. I am in the mountains of NE Washington State this is a safe area anyone on the other side of the Cascades needs to move inland. I would like any other communities to please write me so we can connect. I was shown in the future we would not be able to travel freely so we will have runners who sneak goods from one community to another. Heirloom seeds and tools are very important to save now to use and barter with later. |
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Hello from the sunny pacific northwest, well somewhat sunny. I have been on the west coast since 2002 but researching “what the hell is going on” since 2001 and it has been a great roller coaster ride throughout the rabbit hole and out the other end.
It is refreshing to see like-minded posters that know we are not alone, that ET’s are real, they eat, and they take our human women. Once past that realization, the world takes on a whole new meaning, new perspective and the truth pops out at you. I have taken the ham radio course but didn’t do the exam, guess I should study up and arrange to do the exam. |
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Greetings PNW Ground crew.
Taking a trip to Hillsboro Oregon soon. Searching for a contact up there in case the &#(# hits the fan while im up there. Will be traveling up there to visit a family member in jail! I feel obligated to do this. But it will be a dangerous time for traveling. Can anyone help? Email me if you can. |
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Hi Friends out there -
I have been very busy at work and have not had time to come back to the post for a while. I think you all are GREAT! I thought I would answer some questions regarding quakes for those of us who are interested in these earth events (indeed we all are). The earth is a very exciting, living place and it has its growning pains as well. Of course with the seemingly exponential population growth on the planet over the last 100 years, I think that Mother Earth has a bad case of the Humans! :bleh: Since plate tectonics are part of our earth make up from eons ago, earthquakes will always be associated with colliding plates. These plates move and adjust, jostle for position, etc etc. I don't think earthquakes are increasing per se - but I do keep track of the earthquakes that happen "across the pond" in Japan and those areas, and of course in CA. When something big happens over there, there will be adjustments elsewhere- there is only so much room on our planet for these plates to move around, somthing has got to give somewhere. So.... do I think earthquakes are increasing? Not truly, no. But, as others have pointed out, earthquakes will increase around say one of our beautiful cascade peaks prior to an eruption (just remember 2.0-3.0 earthquakes are occurring ALL the time in the cascades - most of us just don't feel them where we are). Also, I do think measurement methods are more sophisticated and news of earthquakes much more prevalent. Will the BIG one occur in the PNW? Yes, of course - we have evidence of past biggies all over the place - take a look at the Siletz Bay in Oregon, OR go down to the shore at extremely low tide and you will see huge tree trunks exposed... all direct evidence of earthquake-related subsidence. I find it very intriguing. If you are really interested in megathrust earthquakes and subsidence, you may want to check out a study done about 10 or f15 years ago by Blackwell, et al where they looked at core samples from along the coasts of the PNW and were able to identify evidence of megathrust earthquakes every 500 years or so. A link I promised to Carrie1971 is here: http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index.php?lang= It shows real time earhquakes (among other natural and man-made disasters) across the world. Also, regarding polar shifts - I have not studied these too much - I do have a few rocks (Hematite, I believe) that come from a very old band of rock formation that shows at least one magnetic signature from an ancient polar shift. Have no idea how this will affect us humans, if and when this does happen. My husband also is a geologist and has studied magnetism and polarity in much more detail than I. I will talk with him and see if I can post some additional informaiton on this interesting subject. By the way, I am not sure if anyone has posted this link to Emergency Preparedness: http://beprepared.com/Default.asp?bhcd2=1221928380 Off subject: Can anyone tell me, where George Green is from? Does he live here in the PNW? Best to all Providence |
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Hello,
The reason I live on a boat is to be able to move about the Puget Sound area freely as I want. We can get away from cities quickly and into remote areas. Our boat is a very unique barge type of houseboat, called a power scow. The bottom part of the boat is made of "cast ferocement" 2 1/2" thick. There are three sections for the hull that are bolted together, the front two are cast cement hulls, and the back section is made of wood and fiberglass. The cast cement hulls are easy and inexpensive compared to all other building mediums. They can be cast in many sizes. While they are not fast going through the water, hereon Puget Sound, we can use the tides and winds to help us and conserve fuel. Our boat has three levels forward and two and a half in the back, which gives us about 1,200 sq. ft. of usable floor space. Those high sides are a great sails too. LOL Pictures in the profile photo area. Our 22 foot sailboat with 10 hp. motor are alongside, and 16 foot work skiff with a 40 hp. motor too. Besides 2- 8 foot sailing / rowing boats and 2 small kayaks. Along with a couple cars and an old 4wd jeep. |
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Hi all,
I'm up in Whatcom County, in the Kendall area, just 6 miles from the border. Being senior in years, I may not be able to contribute a lot of physical labor any more, but I have a lot of knowledge to share: gardening, food preserving, existing on limited economic resources, etc. I moved up here 8 years ago from Arizona, and have an overwhelming sense that this is where I must be, even though away from my family. I'm a bit of a loner, but would welcome the opportunity to build "community" with others who are aware of the momentous changes upon us, and who care about others. My deep spirituality holds fear at a distance. Sure look forward to knowing each of you a lot better as we work together to find out way through all of this. Love and Light JoyAnna P.S. I posted this same introduction to the "Washington" thread because I'm not sure which one to use. Should they be combined? |
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I am also in the Kendall area, Baggywrinkle so let's keep in touch somehow. Who knows who will be doing what in the very near future!
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I had a hard time sleeping last night as I heard the phone talk with Kerry and George Green. What he said about China seeing the U.S. dollar crashing and if our "Government" did not stop it from crumbling that would be taken as an act of war?? I am going to do some look and see on the Asia web sites and see if I can find that. AS for the Northwest at least we got some rain up here in the northwoods and it is fall as the fall flowers are up with their wonderful purple colors. (Crocus / Fall bulbs )... May each of you have enough and remember... Life here and now is a GIFT.. |
Re: Pacific Northwest Ground Crew
Hello folks! Wormy here. I just got back from the Cascades, upland from Vancouver BC. I have been looking for information pertaining to great floods and particularly how high the flood lines were. I ran into the source, the First Nations were more then forthcoming to me with information regarding where and how high these floods have been. I say "these" because it seems there has been more then one. They have been kind enough to share 30,000 years of flood history with me. I am honored by the chance meeting which took place and the shared knowledge.
The lines of the last great flood have been clearly marked by the First Nations on boulders up near the Blackcomb ski area. These flood lines exist from 5300 to 6500 feet above sea level on the ocean side of the Cascades. I was advised that living 5000 ft over sea level and higher is desirable, and it is even more desirable to be on the east side of the mountain range and away from rivers and flood plains. The First Nations also said that during the "Great Flood" beings called the "Transformers" came to earth and transformed people who were doing good works into elemental spirits that are eternally standing guard over the land. I was shown several places where these transformed beings exist. I was also shown a drawing of one of the "X" Transformer Beings, a very cosmic looking fellow I must say. Well, I hope that info speaks to some of us. Remember, there are no wrong choices here, only information and what we choose to do with it. ON ANOTHER NOTE: It has been suggested that PNGC gets together and talks turkey. I am all for it! If anyone would like to donate some space for a face to face gathering, I am taking notes. I will also be contacting a few experts to give talks on subjects that are of concern. If there is a subject that you feel worthy of a speaker, or if you would like to give a talk on your field of expertise then please drop me an email. IF YOU WANT TO VOLUNTEER AS AN ORGANIZER, please... Lets get together and form a committee. ALSO, if you are just interested in attending let me know. This will help in planning how large or small a venue is needed. Please send all correspondence to my personal mailbox, just so that we do not bog down the PNGC Thread. worm.hole7@gmail.com Peace of MInd, Wormhole |
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