Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Ladies and Gentlemen, Co-creators!

Are You tired of the Status Quo?
Do You want a Future of Your Choice and Deeds?
Are You Willing to extend a Hand to a Fellow Human Being?
Are You Ready to Move Forward?
Do You have Trust in Mankind and Reason?
Do You feel Connected to Mother Earth?
Do You view Nature and All Creatures as One and The same?
Are You convinced of The Oneness of Humanity?
Are You Craving for The New Paradigm?
Are You Calling for The Creational Laws?

You can then register here to join Project Venus.

Project Venus is the alternative future world, based on Solidarity, Reason, Spirituality, Sciences, Technologie, the Laws of Creation and, before all, Hard and Conscious work we all could build upon the Foundations laid down by 'Zeitgeist: Addendum'

It is an attempt to evolve in Harmony with Mother Nature and one's own Consciousness.

At the thread 'Wat we are supposed to do' (courtesy of Member Xammy) are practical steps and emotional/spiritual preparations toward this New Experience being thoroughly discussed.
You could also know more by going through the threads: 'Zeitgeist: Addendum, a must see' and also at Project camelot, onder Books and Movies.

The Website is (from Oct. 10th): www.thezeitgeistmovement.com

The movie-Manifest of Venus Project 'Zeitgeist: Addendum' could be viewed here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...05277695921912


Behold The Future; it is within You.

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

UPDATE:

Here is the Conceptual Scheme of The Common Conscious Future:

www.thevenusproject.com

This new experimental city would be devoted to working towards the aims and goals of The Venus Project, which are:

1. Conserving all the world's resources as the common heritage of all of the Earth’s people.
2. Transcending all of the artificial boundaries that separate people.
3. Evolving from a monetary-based economy to a resource-based world economy.
4. Reclaiming and restoring the natural environment to the best of our ability.
5. Redesigning our cities, transportation systems, and agricultural and industrial plants so that they are energy efficient, clean, and conveniently serve the needs of all people.
6. Evolving towards a cybernated society that can gradually outgrow the need for all political local, national, and supra-national governments as a means of social management.
7. Sharing and applying all of the new technologies for the benefit of all nations.
8. Using clean, renewable energy sources such as wind, solar, geothermal, and tidal power, etc.
9. Ultimately utilizing the highest quality products for the benefit of all the world’s people.
10. Requiring environmental impact studies prior to construction of any mega-projects.
11. Encouraging the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavor.
12. Assisting in stabilizing the world’s population through education and voluntary birth-control to conform to the carrying capacity of the earth.
13. Outgrowing nationalism, bigotry and prejudice through education.
14. Eliminating any type of elitism, technical or otherwise.
15. Arriving at methodologies by careful research rather than random opinions.
16. Enhancing communication in the new schools so that our language and education is relevant to the physical conditions of the world around us.
17. Providing not only the necessities of life but also offering challenges that stimulate the mind, emphasizing individuality rather than uniformity.
18. Finally, preparing people intellectually and emotionally for the possible changes that lie ahead.


Like all other innovative social proposals, it starts out with a few devoted people that dedicate their time to informing others of the humane benefits of this new direction. People are invited to participate in whatever capacity they can to help carry out the initial design phases of this new experimental city. An interdisciplinary team of systems engineers, computer programmers, architects, city planners, sociologists, psychologists, educators and the like would also be needed.

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

I'm in!:thumb_yello:

Thank you...was wondering if others were hip to the Venus Project.:welcomeani:

Love & Light

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

You bet, Wes_Whitewolf, you bet!

It is taking pace and a little bit of Positivity and Forward Looking could do no harm, i guess...

Cheers, Comrade!

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

sign me up Rakar,

I am fully backing up project Venus.
The future is in our hands.
May all that come here pass the good word to their friends for the energy and the good will of many are needed for this project to come trough.

Kindness

mudra

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Van harte Welkom aan boord, Beste Mudra!
I am delighted to have you among us.

I have to notice that it is pretty symbolic: you complete The Trinity - could one wish for a better beginning?!

To born anew from oneself is indeed utterly challenging, but we shall prevail for Creation, whose Eternal Laws we are willing to apply, will always strengthen our Volition and inspire us.

We shall actively disseminate the News, sharing it with as much People as possible, at Avalon and beyond.
I will post this Initiative by the Ground Crew Networking, within the Dutch Communities and others.

Namaste.

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Yes!!
I'm in

Thank you for getting this started.

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Welcome, Honorable Dragonfly.

Some challenging but great work lays ahead; your Contribution, Leadership, Care and Dedication would be highly appreciated.

Peace and Wisdom.


RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

What is Project Venus? Will it be another forum exchanging ideas of the new Earth? Other readers may want to know.

Thanks,
Suriel

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Hello Surel,

Project Venus is the alternative future world, based on Solidarity, Reason, Spirituality, Sciences, Technologie, the Laws of Creation and, before all, Hard and Conscious work we all could build upon the Foundations laid down by 'Zeitgeist: Addendum':http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ist+-+Addendum

(the website will be launched Oct. 10: www.thezeitgeistmovement.com)

It is an attempt to evolve in Harmony with Mother Nature and one's own Consciousness.

For the time being you could know more by going through the threads:'What we are supposed to do'(by Xammy, onder 'General Discussion'); 'Zeitgeist: Addendum, a must see' and also at Project camelot, onder Books and Movies.

Behold the Future, it is within You.

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Thanks for the information Rakar.

Peace,
Suriel

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

You are welcome, Surel.

Regards,

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

I'm in. Thank you for the initiation & work.

Future is ours.:thumb_yello:

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

I love what the project stands for so count me in

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Seems like, coughs, BS to me. The 'city' designs are nonsensical in that they do not utilize the best human-altered landscapes design system we have available now. The 'idea' of food production is simply that, an idea, untested, unverified and unproductive. Floating around the sea in a high tech thing-a-ma-jig seems like a great idea until you get marooned on the dead sea of plastic between Hawaii and California.

All in all it is kind of like a great passing of gas without capturing said gas to cook your KD....Those 'in charge' need to hone up on some basics besides bedside drawings and grand design scenarios. Looks pretty much star trekkie to me. Speaking as a Permaculture Design Consultant and all....I'd rather hit the high seas with a bunch of drunk pirates than build some useless thing with this bunch of old hippies.

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You ever stop to think, the movie "Zeitgeist: Addendum" could have been the answer to the prayers of those who are awakened? I like what Jaques Fresco said "It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than the way it is right now." (I don't think I got the name or the phrase right but you get the jist of it ;) )

The creators of the movie did their part, hopefully the website can organize enough people to make this whole thing possible. Count me in. This whole thing can only be possible if the revolution is peaceful and the old rulers are granted amnesty. Otherwise we would be no better than the old rulers.

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I found it both positive and IMO a mixture of the future and the past (nature)combined. I think this would be a great project for sustainable living. We truly may be in need of different types of living modules. It was quite breathtaking to me as I viewed most of what was on the site. The only thing I found I would need to adjust in my life was the plastics throughout the living quarters. The transportation systems were quite inspiring as well as the future cities. I have had visions of the dome type homes but were partially underground and grouped with more than one family unit there was also a larger dome type city that was above ground and quite large which used a type of small craft to journey to. Count me in as well.

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

I can hardly wait.

Sign me up.

Thanks

peace for all

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Whilst not an expert on Secular Humanism I have an instinctive mistrust of anyone that wants to tell me what the "The Creational Laws" are.

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Welcome on board,
Storm4Ce; PerthDanny; Jeff Delano; Trishsgate; Dominic.

Lance; Bagatell, we are Co-creators, it is in our own hands.
As for the Creational Laws, they are but Harmony with Nature, they are out there in the Heart of Mother Earth; they are within Us.
We shall give Project Venus a try with all our Human Grandeur and also Imperfections.

May this Day also be in the Sign of The Spirit.

Here is then the Conceptual Scheme of The Common Conscious Future:

www.thevenusproject.com

This new experimental city would be devoted to working towards the aims and goals of The Venus Project, which are:

1. Conserving all the world's resources as the common heritage of all of the Earth’s people.
2. Transcending all of the artificial boundaries that separate people.
3. Evolving from a monetary-based economy to a resource-based world economy.
4. Reclaiming and restoring the natural environment to the best of our ability.
5. Redesigning our cities, transportation systems, and agricultural and industrial plants so that they are energy efficient, clean, and conveniently serve the needs of all people.
6. Evolving towards a cybernated society that can gradually outgrow the need for all political local, national, and supra-national governments as a means of social management.
7. Sharing and applying all of the new technologies for the benefit of all nations.
8. Using clean, renewable energy sources such as wind, solar, geothermal, and tidal power, etc.
9. Ultimately utilizing the highest quality products for the benefit of all the world’s people.
10. Requiring environmental impact studies prior to construction of any mega-projects.
11. Encouraging the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavor.
12. Assisting in stabilizing the world’s population through education and voluntary birth-control to conform to the carrying capacity of the earth.
13. Outgrowing nationalism, bigotry and prejudice through education.
14. Eliminating any type of elitism, technical or otherwise.
15. Arriving at methodologies by careful research rather than random opinions.
16. Enhancing communication in the new schools so that our language and education is relevant to the physical conditions of the world around us.
17. Providing not only the necessities of life but also offering challenges that stimulate the mind, emphasizing individuality rather than uniformity.
18. Finally, preparing people intellectually and emotionally for the possible changes that lie ahead.


Like all other innovative social proposals, it starts out with a few devoted people that dedicate their time to informing others of the humane benefits of this new direction. People are invited to participate in whatever capacity they can to help carry out the initial design phases of this new experimental city. An interdisciplinary team of systems engineers, computer programmers, architects, city planners, sociologists, psychologists, educators and the like would also be needed.

This Projection, together with the Six Preliminary Steps, as expressed in 'Zeitgeist: Addendum', would be thoroughly discussed at the thread 'What we are supposed to do', in the section 'General Discussion'.

Namaste.


RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Please see my post re E-Prime

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Thanks, Bagatell; i am heading to the link you gave.

I just would like to add that we are essentially free to define our own Ways.
Within Project Venus, we would try New Ideas, adapt, correct or reject what doesn't work or might ruin the Harmony with Nature we would be seeking.

Regards,

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

The I which is interpreted by what may be construed as myself concurs. And what's this gibberish about 'natural laws'. All, each and every single one of them, 'laws' are made to have an opposition. Say's ayyyeee, matey.
There seems to me to be, several rather clever re-design conceptions already without getting into untested, neo-tech without working prototypes. There is for instance the newly released hush turbine, low wind, power generator out of Australia, there is 'blue energy' tidal power coming out of the orifices of vancouver, there is Permaculture, a proven technology.

Not a single iota of appropriate technology is really listed on this 'Venus' thing. Maybe the originators are awaiting the Hathors or something to come and put all their various cruddy designs into place. The grand circle city design looks good on paper, but I would prefer to have a steam-wind-solar cogeneration plant we could all gather around and talk in place of some neural, cyber nettworky (sic) thing. I'd prefer to have each ring as densely planted with the food I and my family consumes daily as possible. Not 'parks' and other such wastes of space.

Seems to me like another bunch of urbanites wanking at their dream of quasi-rurality. No clue, no conception, no grasp of the deeper meanings of food production, animal husbandry with in food production...just a bunch of folks whom want a cleaner, safer New York. Bah, friggin' humbug. I say, good luck and safe travels on your road to serfdom if the food isn't grown right there. Let machines do it...they have been...I for one, maybe others feel different, do not like processed, GMO'd food myself. So, if the most basic of human needs is done outside the parley of the average food producer/consumer. No thanks, I'll take my chances at home.

This reeks of Tavistock programming. If your nostrils ain't tuned in, ya'll won't be getting it. C'est la vie...one or two of you might. And that, is enough for me.

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

My sincere appreciation, Bagatell.

From now on, i affirm and state forcefully: I was, I am, I will Be!

Regards,

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Hey!

Its very exciting to see all this energy going in to this kind of idea!

We really should start making small lists of goals and such. To keep track of our own progress as a up and coming movement (building on the already existing movements and projects around the world involved in similar undertakings)

What I propose is a section here at Avalon, and or Blog´s and websites with:

Information about the projects that we want to push for in this world.

Ideas about local initiatives and practical action.

Perhaps we could also arrange online AND real world exhibits and workshops for the kind of visions laid out by amongst other the guy in the second half of the Zeitgeist addendum movie, Jacque Fresco.

I imagine everything from graphical representations i.e illustrations 3d views etc, to inventions, ideas presented as text in a form of library and so on..

I think these are some of the next vital steps!

And also to discuss and figure out the following;

What is this movement about?

How do we work?

What can I contribute?

How do we want to share information?

And so on...

I am very busy right now, but will return here and to other threads on this forum and others, and hopefully soon in other venues, and contribute more to the planning and actual work of making a better more thoughtful future for all of us.

Keep your cool everyone, bring out the best in each other, and show compassion!!

Peace!

:trumpet:

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Thanks for your refreshing input, Xammy; this initiative owns you a lot!

Some of the ideas you brought forward are currently onder discussion at the thread you launched 'What we are supposed to do'(General Discussion' section) and Member Aware-Belgium(a Computer Genuis!) has already created a logo for our Project - you have to see that one!

Your other insights will also be thoroughly examined in order to see how we could Practically impliment them.

Take good care of yourself.


Behold the Future, it is within You.

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

As Jaques said, it's not perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than the alternative. I particularly like the idea of switching to a resource based society. This is key. But there are some glaring inconsistencies with the design.
Also, where will you PUT this new city? You think the NWO is going to let a free society exist and FLOURISH? How will you be accepting members? If scores of homeless people come to the gates will they be turned away? What will they be turned away with?
It's sort of a Utopian concept when you look at it in a realistic manner.
HOWEVER, I'm DOWN as it's alot better than the alternative.

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Good points, Greycat.

There are obviously a number of things we, our children, our grandchildren eventually, will have to invest lots of ingeniosity, skills, time and will to sort out. It is a challenging and long process; as i put it in a previous post, it is quite difficult to born anew from your own self - and creating such a Reality out of what we have right now could indeed seem rather utopical.
But, hey! Did we straight away think, accept or believe that the Earth is actually round? That man could walk on the moon? That a wireless telephone was possible? That human Organs could be transplanted? Creatures cloned?
So, it is really up to us.
The Powers-that-be would certainly do their best(worst!) to thwart to whole concept, to shake our Will and enslave our Spirit, which means, as stated in 'Zeitgeist", that we will have to be extremely vigilant and go thoroughly through the Preliminaries(personal Self commitment and Actions for Social Transformation) to unsure our Freedom of Choice and Self determination.
We here at Avalon are not alone; we do our best and add that to what other People, upon Egal Grounds, would bring forward.
I can personal not answer to all your questions, but i will certainly invest all my strength to give this Project some shape and Content.

Your contribution to the discussion at 'What we are supposed to do' in 'General Discussion' would be truly appreciated.

Regards,
RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

PS: Greycat,
One of our Pioneers just informed me that there is actually a PROTOTYPE of the CITY you wondered about in Fla, USA.
Conceptual Models and the scientific measure of their sustainability could be also be viewed and challenged at: www.thevenusproject.com

Regards.

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

An idea or thought energy manifests into reality. As the old world dies the new world begins. What may seem impossible will be possible in the new world. While we awaken, these changes can occur naturally through time. Mutual cooperation will take hold of this new concept in the thousand years of peace.

So it doesn't hurt to prepare and talk about new ideas that can benefit our future for the world. In the mean time, do the best you can in this reality.

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Those are truly wise words, Suriel!

We would certainly not evolve or gain anything substantial through inaction and apathy.

Cheers!

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Im in!! I hada vivid dream some months ago of a city in the middle of the ocean and when I stumbled across the venus project I knew straight away thats what I dreamt of. Its the best template for a new future I have seen thus far, and the principles resonate completely. Its what I have always touched on whilst fantasising about utopia but never been quite clever enough to envisage myself. Kudos to Mr. Fresco.

I want one of those thunderbird houses!!

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

I want to add a quick note. If you are reading about this whole Venus Project thing and think that you don't have to join any movement or work hard because on 12/21/2012 you are going to ascend and become a higher being because you are awakened, you are entirely wrong. You might be right about the whole ascending thing, but you will definately have to do your work in these next 4 years. Just wanted to clear that up in case someone had the lazy mentality ;)

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Welcome on board, QueenOfLeon.

We will surely find great comfort and inspiration in your company.
The discussions towards the practical realization of the Project are being held at 'What we are supposed to' by Xammy(in the 'General Discussion' section).

Looking forward to enjoying(and positively challenging!) your contribution.

Behold the Future, it is within You.

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Well done, Jeff Delano; it is always useful to check one's rank!

Cheers!

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

I'm in... but we may need a few more than we have here... ~6 billion to ~15 we have our work cut out.

I want free energy, ultimate health, harmony, etc etc

...But on the way to work I saw three to four chem trails being made in the sky and took loads of pictutres and one tracking movie on my mobile... then the thread today about avian flu and chemtrails... Evil will be counter acted by the 15 of us :)

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Welcome, Connecting with Sauce.

Step in with Peace and Determination, for there is some work cut out!
One Person can make a Difference, 15 - a Wonder...
See you at 'What we are you supposed to' by Xammy.

Behold the Future, it is within You.

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Im there too thanks for the info!

I have one thing to ask all who watched the new Zeitgeist, near the last 15 minutes there were about 3 or 4 times when I actually felt a pulse and surge go right into my heart shukra, and it was most intense and emotional.

Like a wave of heightened love entering my whole body. Very moving.

Love everything :original:

Z

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Jaques also said that it is impossible to have a perfect society. I agree, so my question then becomes, why bother trying?
In my opinion we need to dissolve the idea of societies and CULT-ures all together.
And just be.

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

You mean ther´s only one alternative? I doubt that.

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

Welcome on board, watchZEITGEISTnow; it is an honor to have you around.
Make sure your sleeves are sufficiently rolled back, for there is truly plenty of work to do.

See you then at the thread 'What we are supposed to do' by Xammy(in the section 'General Discussion') for further discussion about the steps we could reasonably take to achieve our goals.

Bagatell,
There are certainly other alternatives out there; no one stated(at least in 'Zeitgeist: Addendum') that this Path the only one is. No one told us to go for this very Path. We freely choose to try to Realize it.
You are also free to reject it for something else that better resonates with you.

Phtha,
Idem.

Behold the Future, it is within You.

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

Re: Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers
 

here's a poster i made for Zeitgeist / Venus Project, 2 formats for desktops or printing:

http://www.4shared.com/file/66332765...s_poster.html?