Benjamin Fulford
 

Bill: Yesterday, you reported on Project Camelot that the scheduled phone contact with Benjamin Fulford was cancelled but that he was concerned about some upcoming events. Have you heard anymore about this?:yikes:

Re: Benjamin Fulford
 

This is from Benjamin's website, most likely posted after the canceled interview.
http://benjaminfulford.com/secretgoverment.html
Bill "the Doctor"

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well if free energy emerges, that would be a good thing. I plee for a natural-decay of human numbers, so be it by "one-child-per-family" so be it by platonic shifting

you know all the pple stating that "one-child-a-family" is barbaric? I laugh at them and say "ye you prob prefer war and nukes, or a natural-planet phenomenon instead *wink"

the one child is "not good" but it beats all the other options by far.

cheers

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Thanks Dr. Who ! great news ...:smoke:

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That article has been on Benjamin's site for a few months now. It's not recent.

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WELL WELL, this could be promising news!! maybe the tide will turn in our favour sooner than we think?? thanks Dr Who for the latest... keep us posted!!

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I wasn't sure as there wasn't a date on it. It was listed near the top of the list on his site, so I thought I was recent. So I guess maybe something in this scenario has changed.
Bill "the Doctor"

Re: Benjamin Fulford
 

Your correct, the link to Benjamin Fulford site was an old link at least 6 months old. The last several talks that Benjamin has given seemed more like he was not as sure of himself or what was going on as he has been in the past. Has anyone taken notice to this?

:cheers:

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That's a really old article of Ben's from a year or two ago.. and his intel at the time was wrong.. We have asked him to date his articles but unfortunately he has not done so!

Kerry

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i think now would be a good time for his ninja friends to assassinate the secret masters of the world

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Greetings,

The latest Benjamin Fulford interview is on You Tube "Benjamin Fulford on Alex Jones - August 22 2008." There is some new information, but most is a rehash of earlier information.

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I was wondering how you got that article.....in english!
I have been checking out his Japanese blog for a couple months now and have to use a online translator to read the stuff:annoyed_h4h:
here is the link:
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

Re: Benjamin Fulford
 

Try this one.

http://benjaminfulford.com/indexEnglish.html

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Try this...

http://benjaminfulford.com/indexEnglish.html

But as Kerry pointed out, his articles are undated, so you need to think hard before assuming that any are recent! I don't THINK there have been any new English-language additions on that page for a while.

Very best, Bill

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Well thats where I found the japanese blog, if you look up on the left hand side, those have the dates written (japanese) and he writes often.The thing is, some of the blogs are relevant to Japan but not much more. The main english page that you point to only has "outdated" stuff.

Re: Benjamin Fulford
 

Hi, Folks:

We've just recorded (8 pm US Pacific time, Saturday 6 Sept) a half hour phone interview with Benjamin.

We called him on his phone and to his credit he was prepared to talk to us on record on the spot.

We're about to edit it (overtalk, noise, volume) and will post it within 24 hours, linking to it here and on Camelot.

The information was essentially what he reported here in his written article on Rense.com, rounded out with his personal opinions, concerns and analysis.

(If Rense.com is still down, the article is also available here.)

He also told us he will to an audio interview with Jeff Rense on 8 September. We did not learn what the 8 September date was all about and apart from apologizing for not going through with the interview the other night, and stating that he had to think things through very carefully, he did not explain exactly what had occurred.

Very best to all, Bill

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Copy of e-mail just sent to Benjamin Fulford:

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Hi, Benjamin -

Thanks so much for being willing to go on record with your concerns and analysis on the spot. We’re editing the recording now and will post it within hours.

The YouTube video you referenced: it’s a little hard to know how reliable the information is. There is much dramatic stating of stark facts, with apparent confidence. But it’s hard to know what’s documented and what’s opinion (or invented!) - or just pulled off other parts of the net and assumed to be fact.

Anyone who says they know exactly what is happening... doesn’t.

Essentially, this is propaganda. The purpose is to create drama and fear. The video maker is also very staunchly biblical, and has created other videos in similar vein.

BUT:

We were recently contacted privately by someone who had a friend who was a security guard at an underground facility close to and associated with the new superhighway being built from Mexico to Canada. Part of that facility is in the public domain, but part of it is not.

The security guard took our contact to a part of the facility where he showed him hundreds (or maybe thousands) of brand new German and Russian military vehicles - largely personnel carriers. He was not able to explain what they both witnessed there (and neither are we).

This was dated in 1997 or 98. We believe this report to be credible but have not published it - there was simply not enough information for it to be useful.

AND (as you probably know):

The camps are real. We have met and talked with George Green, who was asked to build one in Las Vegas. (He refused: it was built anyway, by another contractor.)

The information about the red lists and blue lists sounds like something that has been going round the internet virally. We don’t know the original source. It’s one of those things that came from one person and was then copied so many times that it seemed as if it’s coming from “everywhere” and “everyone knows it”. Actually, it could be spurious. A lot of information like this is.

[We have to say we’re dubious about the 20 Air Force Generals being murdered - and the Madam Wu information - because that has also gone viral on sites like Rumor Mill News and Fourwinds10.com. However, if you were (also) told this by your NSA and CIA sources, then we will listen VERY carefully.]

The problem is extracting the signals from the noise. There’s a lot of noise! But the apparent signals form a pattern. There’s a lot of data clustering.

Statistically, it sure looks like there’s real ground for concern. Kerry and I are both very concerned indeed and we’re not trying to blow anything off. Our own sources are saying things totally consistent with the “problem in October” scenario.

Do please let us know what you learn and tell us if anything is off record - we will honor that.

Warmest wishes as always -

Bill and Kerry


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The video Benjaimn referenced was this one. We are NOT recommending that people watch it or believe it. We just state it here for the record so that readers can understand my considered comments above in response. My strong personal view is that videos like this are irresponsible and add very litle to informed debate.

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Seconded!

But I doubt it would change anything... There will always be a heir to the throne!

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Thanks for the update Bill!

I agree about the video, not sure why it's in question here, but this is just one more of many such videos all over the internet, just more fear-mongering. So sad to think there are folks out there who really believe this stuff! But I suppose they'd say the same about me! :lmao:

Anyway, looking forward to the audio.

Re: Benjamin Fulford
 

Last night's Benjamin Fulford telephone interview (see above) has been edited and is available here.

* While we're at it, a transcript of our conversation with George Green two days ago is available here - already. Kudos to our transcription team: we weren't even aware that anyone had been working on it until it was done! (The best possible definition of delegation :original: )

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Hello Bill,
Very much appreciate you and Kerry reaching Benjamin and getting the phone interview up so quickly.

The rapid flux of changes he speaks of and word of the various factions slugging it out behind the scenes is fascinating.

These are all good bits to keep an eye on and tie in with other elements we're getting!

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Thank you Bill and Kerry for this amazing interview.:)
Let's hope the dark side loses this one.
I do think he is out of sync with the Blackwater group, as there are so many UN militia for - er - 'camp' duty.
Blackwater are the Neocons/Zionists bodyguards then?

I have posted your link far and wide as usual!

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I agree with Marty. If he has the influence that he claims, then why wouldn't they act now rather than wait for something terrible to happen?

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Here Here to the transcription team for their ability to get this information up so fast. The more information we all have, the faster we can get this out to everyone so that we can all make the necessary choices in our lives.

It is truely a shame that we have allowed our media to get so out of touch with reality. I know it is all part of the plan but, if we have to, we can go down swinging.

Keep looking to the Universe for individual and planetary guidance.

:lightsabre:

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I listened to the interview and I must say that things are getting really confusing and you dont really know what is going to happen. I mean I really cannot imagine a bunch of people preparing for something for so long and then all of sudden opting out, well if they did it would be cool. But let me act the bad guy. For example, if this conflict or drama or whatever doesnt happen now, who will control the world? the same people right? well then they will still have all the technologies and probably plan something similar at a later date. How does it make any sense? I mean you are just delaying the inevitable in a certain way. I am definately not for war but by delaying it all you are doing is putting the burden on the next generation. Unless everything comes clean I dont want it to be delayed because you will face the same situation again and how many times will you avoid it.

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I agree with your sentiments. However I can't see anything NOT happening pre-election. Battern down the hatches friends.

Peace

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I doubt that the control is in the hands of the originators.

Peace and Joy
Always

Sally Anne

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There do seem to be similarities between what Benjamin and George have been told by their sources. But as Bill has said, it's hard to separate the facts from the noise. I really believe that a lot of the noise is deliberate misinformation.

You know, one thing that I try to keep in mind is the concept that the members of the "world management team" has had MANY centuries to think of everything. Every contingency has been considered and dissected down to the smallest degree. They are not about failing, they are not about quitting, unless they are routed out completely. But that doesn't necessarily mean that something violent must happen. Humanity could collectively decide that we no longer accept being manipulated by these people.

These people are religious fanactics in their own way. But, their religion is the worship of Lucifer. And, these people were given control (or the knowledge to be able to control mass populations) by "neighbors" from elsewhere. Their given task by those overlords is to maintain control of the population through whatever means is necessary. They are also supposed to control the availability of critical resources that the "neighbors" require when they ultimately return to Earth.

So, with that in mind, the "world management team" has a job to do, and they believe they have a higher authority giving them the right to do that job.

The question is this... is humanity mature enough to realise this situation and collectively decide to choose a different future than the one the "team" and the visitors have chosen for us?

Time will tell!

Vance

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I have had some theories over the last couple of years in the run up to Nov 08. Because of people waking up to their lies the "Elite" would be hard pressed to commit another 9/11 scale attack. Simply for the fact. I don't think people would buy into it, and secondly one or two attacks are easy, well easier to de-bunk because everyones attention and resources are aimed at them. We have to assume these "Enlightened ones" have learned from the last 7 years since 9/11.

However a series of much smaller scale flase flag "Terrorist" attacks spread perhaps across the country or even including American targets abroad will service their dark needs. Rather than being made for the media, (giving the camera crews time to show up before the second plane hit) like 9/11 may infact target media outlets leading to a news blackout, or a power blackout.

This would from their point of view serve the martial law goal as they would be required to step in to bring order to the situation. If there are bombs going off in the local petrol stations, suicide bombs in the malls shootings in local government buildings, schools of what is called small town America (no disrespect intended, I couldn't think of a better term) people, well the uninformed are going to be crying out for the troops to be deployed. People that are scared are all to willing to give up their rights. And by the time its all over and people realise they have bought a lie it will be too late.

So as for False Flag a fast high intensity strike like 9/11 no, but a series of small scale attacks all over the place that last over time period of serveral hours, even days... In my humble opinion this could be what happens. Belsan or the Moscow theater happening in America is a nightmare I have had since I really started thinking about what would happen next.

Aside from this my other thoughts on the matter are that they may infact "break" a terrorist ring, or stop an attack in progress. Perhaps against the "election" process. I think this would happen closer to the election because of course the enemy "Hate our freedoms" and would try and "stop our democratic process". This is a less intensity false flag but it does allow them to spread the "Bush was right" lie and let him leave office vindicated, and of course McCain would take the torch from him. It seems as if American Presidents are crowned with a major "event" so this could be McCain's.

Really it depends how desperate these people are. If Ben Fulford is correct then the nationwide attacks might be the path they choose. If he is wrong, I still think something will happen.

Peace.

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I find Benjamin Fulford deeply puzzling, and not in a good way. I do not understand his motives, particularly when he says things that seem completely in the realm of fantasist, such as stuff about ninjas. On one level, I could understand these things, but the way in which he presents them makes no sense to me. Why be so frank about connections that sound so crazy to the average person? Why not just stick to the information that they have produced?

What I find unsettling is that I have no way of placing him. What does he believe in? What principles does he stand for? I understand his sphere of influence (I was extremely impressed that he was in a position to interview David Rockefeller Snr, if not so impressed with the interview) and I do not doubt that he has insider knowledge, but why should we listen to him? What is his motivation for what he does? How can I trust him if I do not know what he stands for?

Do any others ask themselves these questions? From the articles I read, and interviews I have heard, he does not seem to have a clear (positive) motive. For myself, he just comes across as a little fish trying to play with the sharks.

Am I wrong?

Re: Benjamin Fulford
 

I think Benjamin is pretty easy to read.

He really deeply cares about people. That's his primary motivation. One of his videos had him on the verge of tears when he was talking about the PTB plans at population reduction.

But I also detect what others observe. Embellishment for the purposes of adding emphasis, and credibility, which has much the obvious effect. A bit of Ego, perhaps?

He seems to have some connections, but seems to like to see himself as having more, and more influence, too.

overall, I believe he's a positive. His credibility will continue to suffer, though, if he doesn't stop embellishing his reports.

I'd like to see him stick more to what he does know from personal connections and interactions, and less reporting on stuff he's read on the net, like the rest of us.

Re: Benjamin Fulford
 

Two unfolding events which focus on Mr Fulford's September 8th date:

Detroit's big three are seeking government handouts

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

and the Freddie/Fannie takeover

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0908/p01s01-usec.html

The failure of Freddie/Fannie has the capacity to bring down the
entire global financial system.

Re: Benjamin Fulford
 

That is why I find him hard to read. Why embellish if the information is sound?

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I totally agree.

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the control mongers are so organized and stacked with power and resources, yet the spiritual people lack any kind of togetherness....most of us are just living our silly little dramas with our "important" family and loved ones. ugh.

And then the powerful spiritual people dont seem to care....the world is meaningless to them and theyre just dealing with cloud nine issues and getting outta here. I met one who could see right thru these disinfo clowns like nothing. But are we organized enough to take advantage of our powers? Its frustrating ay?

Why do we put up with the lies...when we should easily have a team of psychics reading right thru the lies. They could just see the lies in their aura or whatever. But instead we bumble around frantically digging thru mountains of chaos.

Just wish we were being more creative and wise with our range of assests. Of course the Cabal doesnt have moral rules like we do.

Hmm, i just dont know lol

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I like your level of thinking, but there are some other factors that should be considered. If we limited all couples in the world to a one child policy we would have to make some other serious changes to the structures of society.

There are serious drawbacks and socialization issues that come from being an only child. I have always been partial to Plato's model of all children being raised together by the community and no one knowing who their specific biological parents were. This ensures adaquate care for ALL children and being raised in large numbers ensures proper socialization...ie alturistic vs hedonistic traits are well balanced.

To put it bluntly my friend, though good for the planet, I have never met an only child that did not have some serious issues to work out as a result of it and I'm sure many here would agree with me (including only children).

Re: Benjamin Fulford
 

connecting a dot...

As Kerry and Bill asked it correctly towards the end of the interview: but what about the bigger plan, the overall world plan? It is not about the US, or the puppets in washington.

BF said that the bancrupty of the US might be postponed, even avoided by a HUGE SPACE PROGRAM. For what? To do what?

connect this with the ongoing buzz about a FAKE ALIEN INVASION and this starts to make sense on a global scale.

Fake alien invasion units the world against them, US releases info on secret tehcnology and needs money to get the production going.

venciremos.

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My 2 cents are as follows -

1. If what Fulford has claimed in the past regarding the Chinese Tongs and assassins is true. It seems, at least on the surface, very unfortunate that he would have given up the element of surprise by trying to negotiate with people who are clearly beyond any hope of reason. In that regard he either committed a great mistake, or he did so deliberately as the agent of the Illuminati. As I recall, he references an elite in the USA as the target of elimination when the major influences are in Europe, particularly Rome. Now, Fulford is talking about these people as beyond reason, when, a year ago he was sure they would listen. Why the Chinese Tong would be waiting for Fulford to give the go ahead is beyond me. Several recent earthquakes in China may be intimidation tactics along these lines.

2. I think Fulford is pointing out that there is no single faction in complete control. Even the "Illuminati (Jesuits and Bloodline Rich) " are not able to act in absolute authority. The cutthroat nature of the Illuminati seems to have imbalanced itself. Other resistance has clearly grown which I credit superficially to the internet but really to the internal increases in consciousness taking place throughout the world and beyond by the mercy of the Supreme Being. The pot is being stirred by mercy. Nothing is done without love, even the perversions of the "Bad Guys" is really a perversion of an impulse of love.

3. It is the nature of this world that good things come indirectly from those with the strongest worldly motives and whose karma has positioned them appropriately. Those with the strongest greed (attachment to inert objects) and infatuations (attachments to living things and ideas) often end up doing harsh things resulting indirectly in good results. The Supreme Being is all merciful and entirely in charge. Spirits attachments, to the temporary worlds of matter, are being broken down. More and more people will be faced with truths about this plane and its nature of lies and deceptions. It is deplorable that owning nothing and here temporarily, people are still so eager to defend it. Interest in where they really are, why they are here, where home is, who the Creator really is, and how to get home is slowly on the rise, though many shocks and jolts will be necessary to free them from the illusions of mind and ideas and images. Sincerity and humility will lead to begging of the Supreme Being for the Supreme Being himself, thus breaking the bonds of ego and the ignorance perpetrated upon them, for their ultimate good, by the Devil and his agents. Today, almost everyone begs only for object of matter belonging to the Devil; eventually the spirits will abandon such folly, asking only to know the highest love who is their true source and father. Spirits have been compelled to come here by their imperfections. Those conditions, after countless live are nearly eliminated. Some, more than others. But countless lifetimes of false attachments and deceptions need to also be broken down.

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He was right 1 child policy isnt a good thing. A 0 child policy would be good!!! Many here are discussing very dire things possibly coming right around the corner. Any sane intelligent race would stop having kids..and stop thinking of themselves and come from a worldcentric view.

How is restricting child bearing rights barbaric if having children will be much worse. Whats barbaric is being selfish and only thinking about yourself and "oh but kids are so cute, woosie woo." lol Awww dook at da diddtle baby...yea ...you so big..soooo big.

Plato was right.. the selfish ownership and click/gangs, i mean families is all part of the separation problem.

Families took away my right to go out and find my own piece of land. So their right to have babies is more important than my rights to not be imprisoned on this planet.

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Reguarding the Population decreass I think nature's been personaly on the assult for awhile.

Allready People are naturealy haveing less kids then what our grandparents were breeding at the rate of rabbits, Then there is a hell of alot more People whom simplely can not have kids be it the male sperms is bad or the females eggs, then natural disaster's and more sickness/diesea's world wide, and the well to save arguement's I wont claime there is more now then 10-20 year's ago but the mass increas of homosexuals has played a small role in it due to the natureal aspect of You need both Sex's to reproduce (No im not saying gays dont have a right to children just technicaly nature doesn't alloued them to breed with there prevered sex)

All in all We dont want people to simplely "Die" but We realy do need a decreass and so I'm just going to wait it out for the next few years and see if nature want's Me here or not.

Main thing I am worried about though is the state of the othere spiece's =/ if WW3 does happen or some desaster on a world scale I hope some factions out there has allready made plans to make sure We don't make the truely innocent suffer greatly by makeing them exstinked.

I don't buy into the whole "Animals don't have soul's" My experience with so many different spieces and indervidal personalitys has taught Me otherewise, I wounder if they to will experience some form of Spiritual Awakening?