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QueenOfLeon 09-19-2008 11:37 PM

Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Now please dont attack me cos I am a MASSIVE fan of both Bill and Kerry and if it was not for their courage I would not be as half enlightened as I am.

the truth is this never even crossed my mind untill a friend whom I am trying to WAKE UP just kept going on about it. We were watching the richard hoagland interview where he says that kerry and bill interviewing him be a very sophisticated way of getting to him *Kerry just laughs it off* but my friend said that hergiggle was telling. ???????????

I would like to add that my friend is very paranoid as a rule, hence the fact I thought he had the capacity to come out of his barn and look beyond mainstream media! but what played on my mind the most was when I noticed Kerry telling us the location of her so called safe haven?!

Maybe the paranoia is wearing off? Why does this strike me as unsensible. Kerry has done so much that would **** the PTB off.....why just give em your address?


Anybody else?

visual co-creator 09-19-2008 11:39 PM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
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QueenOfLeon 09-19-2008 11:54 PM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by visual co-creator (Post 21038)
Genuine WHAT?

That was EXACTLY my reaction to my freinds niavity! He is new to this and I am trying to educate him. I personally think that they are protected by light beings, hence they can be and have been as open as they are. If it was not for them we would not be here. But my freinds point was how can they be so blatant about where they have moved to and what they are doing without threat?

motov 09-19-2008 11:58 PM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21034)
Now please dont attack me cos I am a MASSIVE fan of both Bill and Kerry and if it was not for their courage I would not be as half enlightened as I am.

the truth is this never even crossed my mind untill a friend whom I am trying to WAKE UP just kept going on about it. We were watching the richard hoagland interview where he says that kerry and bill interviewing him be a very sophisticated way of getting to him *Kerry just laughs it off* but my friend said that hergiggle was telling. ???????????

I would like to add that my friend is very paranoid as a rule, hence the fact I thought he had the capacity to come out of his barn and look beyond mainstream media! but what played on my mind the most was when I noticed Kerry telling us the location of her so called safe haven?!

Maybe the paranoia is wearing off? Why does this strike me as unsensible. Kerry has done so much that would **** the PTB off.....why just give em your address?


Anybody else?

1. what you mean by genuine i havent got a clue....

2. safe haven is not to protect from agents of PTB but for some event of cataclysm-ish..lol... and no i dont think their undercover govt. spy out to enchant us all then rip the foundation away and turn us all in to the PTB copa...:mfr_lol:

plz delete this thred and use your time on some real mind food...

cheers m8....

mwood82 09-20-2008 12:00 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
I feel that I have little choice but to beleive what they have relayed to me. Of course those thoughts have come into my mind and it would not surprise me that Bill and Kerry are agents of the NWO, but for now I refuse to believe that.

-Mwood

Nik 09-20-2008 12:03 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
If **you evolve** as a result of their efforts to disclose hidden information, does it matter? :)

eris 09-20-2008 12:07 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
i don't doubt Bill & Kerry's integrity - but i don't always resonate with their information/interviewee's

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 12:08 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mwood82 (Post 21076)
I feel that I have little choice but to beleive what they have relayed to me. Of course those thoughts have come into my mind and it would not surprise me that Bill and Kerry are agents of the NWO, but for now I refuse to believe that.

-Mwood

Yeah me too defo. Im not having it. they have done so much for me and they dont even know it, which is whats beautiful about his forum. Sorry if I offended anyone but I felt ir was a valid question. Free speach and all that.

Much love xx

clarkkent 09-20-2008 12:15 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
my internal buls***t detector thinks they are very sincere people, and the lack of the video's being slick (i'm an editor and was initially thrown off by the "low budget-ness") is a testament that theyre just real people doing a job i dont see many others doing. the outtake from the wilcock interview was a nice "lighter" side to what they do, as most of the topics are very heavy.

im bummed they havent interviewed dr greer or anyone that backs up military abductions and PLF's (programmed life forms) but that doesnt mean theyre working for the wrong side.

as bill wrote to me, "use your inuition"

and thats what i do.

-k

eris 09-20-2008 12:16 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21064)
But my freinds point was how can they be so blatant about where they have moved to and what they are doing without threat?

'they' know where everyone is i believe

there is a tide turning, many people are on the front of the wave Bill & Kerry, Icke, etc etc - even if they took out the crest, the mass of water behind would still engulf them

remembering how powerful we are, that is waking up really really

:original:

eris 09-20-2008 12:23 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21092)
Sorry if I offended anyone but I felt ir was a valid question. Free speach and all that.

Much love xx

its really important to question everything & find our own inner bulls*** detector

i just can't stress enuf how important that is!

:wub2:

Bigfatfurrytexan 09-20-2008 12:31 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
i don't know if they are genuine or not. I do know that their content is questionable for me. The Serpo thing really was a biggie, you know?

I believe them to both be genuine. but i also believe that sooner or later (if not already) they will see the $$$ potential in this business and they, too, will be ruined like so many of the others before them.

Bill, Kerry...nothing personal. I like you guys. I hope that you prove the latter part of my sentence wrong. As well, i think that the Serpo thing was more an act of reporting on your part. The only negative is that your names were tied in with it, you know?

bodzoyfa 09-20-2008 12:32 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
To ask if Bill and Kerry are legitimate doesnt seem to be the right question to me. The question that seems the most relevant is whether or not the people that have been interviewed are genuine or not.

Kerry and Bill find these people, establish rapport, interview and deliver to us. They are simply a medium of information exchange.

I think they do a good job of not incorporating their own ideas, preconceived notions, etc in their work. When you listen to the dialogue or read the transcripts, they're just regurgitating what that interviewee has said in a more digestable way for the average person who may not understand it all so clearly, free of any personal implications.

In addition, Bill and Kerry are constantly asserting that we not believe anything that has been presented to us but rather use discernment and intuition find our own truth. To me, nothing could be more genuine than that.

Merlin 09-20-2008 12:35 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
I think when it comes to deciding wether or not somebody is genuine in what they say, I think you have to rely on your "Gut" feeling about them.
I think that your first intuitive feeling is usually correct but what happens is people start to question their own intuition and doubt starts to creep in.

I would like to ask Bill and Kerry have they approached Dr Greer to participate with the Camelot site? I personally think what that man is doing is one of the most important parts of this grand puzzle which I suspect is slowly coming together to give us answers.

If you have approached Dr Greer and he has refused to contribute, would you tell us what reasons he gave for not doing so?

Thank you

Merlin.

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 12:38 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mwood82 (Post 21076)
I feel that I have little choice but to beleive what they have relayed to me. Of course those thoughts have come into my mind and it would not surprise me that Bill and Kerry are agents of the NWO, but for now I refuse to believe that.

-Mwood

?

Do you believe everything people tell you? That doesnt sound very smart.

I have watched all of their videos and read much much information regarding 'fringe knowledge' and i come to my own conlusions based on the overwhelming compilation of information i have been privy to.

And yes, i think they are genuine.

I wouldnt be suprised if you were an agent for the NWO!

*takes thounge out of cheek* :lol3


p.s your wording their was very unusual.

Lee 09-20-2008 12:42 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Well you know we all are a little suspicious and questioning or lets face it we would not be here communicating on this site. And I think it is a healthy thing to not believe everyone and anything you hear. We have been blessed with a curious soul that desires the truth. So I think that Bill and Kerry would welcome your scepticism. One of the ways I discern the intent of someone is if they are open to scrutiny and questioning.

Shellie 09-20-2008 12:45 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
I trust Bill and Kerry's intentions and for the most part most of their interpretations. While there are some interviewees who resonate better with me that others (and it doesn't have anything to do necessarily with differing opinions on things like whether or not Planet X is real, or the nature of the Roswell crash), there is one very specific interviewee I do not trust AT ALL even though his message is attractive. I know people are talking about Wilcox in this forum, and that is not who I am referring to. I mean, this one guy makes my skin crawl, and I think he was planted for disinfo.

I wonder if anyone else out there has that feeling about anyone? We don't need any names here... just does the feeling exist?

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 12:47 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21132)
I trust Bill and Kerry's intentions and for the most part most of their interpretations. While there are some interviewees who resonate better with me that others (and it doesn't have anything to do necessarily with differing opinions on things like whether or not Planet X is real, or the nature of the Roswell crash), there is one very specific interviewee I do not trust AT ALL even though his message is attractive. I know people are talking about Wilcox in this forum, and that is not who I am referring to. I mean, this one guy makes my skin crawl, and I think he was planted for disinfo.

I wonder if anyone else out there has that feeling about anyone? We don't need any names here... just does the feeling exist?

That italian guy?

P.s ; I'm not afraid to name names lol.

Shellie 09-20-2008 12:48 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
No, not him.

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 12:51 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21135)
No, not him.

He certainly raised my eyebrow.

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 12:58 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21132)
I trust Bill and Kerry's intentions and for the most part most of their interpretations. While there are some interviewees who resonate better with me that others (and it doesn't have anything to do necessarily with differing opinions on things like whether or not Planet X is real, or the nature of the Roswell crash), there is one very specific interviewee I do not trust AT ALL even though his message is attractive. I know people are talking about Wilcox in this forum, and that is not who I am referring to. I mean, this one guy makes my skin crawl, and I think he was planted for disinfo.

I wonder if anyone else out there has that feeling about anyone? We don't need any names here... just does the feeling exist?

I have read that some people are dubious about green..with the northern hemisphere being a **** hole by the time the powers that be are finished. My mind is still open though. Im just not whole heartedely believing anything or anyone ...just taking in the info and filing it in the mind archives till I need it. What is important now I guess is staying positive and away from fear.


im not scared anymore. AT ALL.

Steve_A 09-20-2008 12:58 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Hi eris,

I am totally confident in the integrity of Bill & Kerry. To stand in front of people and begin to discuss the things that are being discussed on their website and indeed this forum, you need to ave a lot of muster. I think that if they were not genuine in what they do, like any charloton, they would have fallen by the wayside by now. In fact as I understand it, Bill left the makings of a brilliant site exactly because he didn't accept the hanky panky that was going on. Consequently the site is slowly becoming to be just another one of those virtual graveyards that we come across from time to time (actually a lot of the time) on the net.

I too have doubts about some of their guests, one of which Bill took to question in their last interview and also another who gave out absolutely no information originating from them, in other words, they repeated what another 'whistlelower' had said. It was a drag to listen to the interview as it was lengthy and like I said, in my opinion was not very 'in your face' with new info.

However I am a fan of George Green, Robert Dean and of John Lear, bearing in mind you cannot take as gospel 100% of what they say, you still have to find information from different sources before you can come to a reasonable conclusion.

Best regards,

Steve


Quote:

Originally Posted by eris (Post 21090)
i don't doubt Bill & Kerry's integrity - but i don't always resonate with their information/interviewee's


izz 09-20-2008 12:59 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21034)
Now please dont attack me cos I am a MASSIVE fan of both Bill and Kerry and if it was not for their courage I would not be as half enlightened as I am.

when I noticed Kerry telling us the location of her so called safe haven?!

Maybe the paranoia is wearing off? Why does this strike me as unsensible. Kerry has done so much that would **** the PTB off.....why just give em your address?


Anybody else?


i find this question are bill and kerry genuine quite insulting actually .. like a reverse psychology poison dart .. you say please dont attack you .. then ask a question which is a bit offensive .. and on their forum !!! :shocked:

it is a bit like when someone says .. ' can i be honest .. then proceeds to insult you .. '
It is a bit of a cheek if you ask me ..

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 01:01 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by izz (Post 21150)
i find this question are bill and kerry genuine quite insulting actually .. like a reverse psychology poison dart .. you say please dont attack you .. then ask a question which is a bit offensive .. and on their forum !!! :shocked:

it is a bit like when someone says .. ' can i be honest .. then proceeds to insult you .. '
It is a bit of a cheek if you ask me ..



I think mwood82's post was much more insulting with his subtle little inuendo thrown in there for good measure.

What a contribution for your first post mwood, after all your days on the forum!

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 01:03 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by izz (Post 21150)
i find this question are bill and kerry genuine quite insulting actually .. like a reverse psychology poison dart .. you say please dont attack you .. then ask a question which is a bit offensive .. and on their forum !!! :shocked:

it is a bit like when someone says .. ' can i be honest .. then proceeds to insult you .. '
It is a bit of a cheek if you ask me ..

Well you would say that if your defensive. Why is it an insult to question??? ..is that not why we are here? Dont be indoctrined by authority sweetness. If im insulting anyone they can delete the thread, no skin off my nose. It is Just a question. I appreciate your opinion though, however maybe you should read the restof the thread. I think I have more than explained myself.

Much love.

izz 09-20-2008 01:04 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21154)
Well you would say that if your defensive. I appreciate your opinion though, however maybe you should read the restof the thread. I think I have more than explained myself.

Much love.

i read all the thread but essentially it started in the same way that girls gossip .. you know when they say .. ' what do you think of so and so ... '

it is a cheek to ask such a question on their forum IMO

Shellie 09-20-2008 01:06 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Can we ever discuss things without everyone getting offended? I assume we are all here because we OPENED OUR EYES and ASKED QUESTIONS. Why now do we get offended or defensive or nasty at people who ask "sensitive" questions which are quite valid? If you all started a thread asking each other if you thought I was a reptilian, I would look more highly of you simply because you were stretching your brains and questioning things.

doodlebug 09-20-2008 01:07 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eris (Post 21102)
'they' know where everyone is i believe
:original:

Aye, and at this point there is no sense in any of these 'watchers on the walls' that have been sounding the wake-up trumpets for humanity to hide any way. They are doing their part and completing their mission, and taking the risks they feel they must. As we all must.
Read the mission statements for Projects Camelot and Avalon.
They have emphatically stated over and over that the information they are presenting represents many viewpoints. You can take it or leave it, your choice.
As far as being able to interview the many people who have valuable things to say, these things take time and financing. There are many of these who are getting their messages out, for the greatest and highest good of all concerned.

Brightest blessings to all :trumpet:

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 01:07 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21163)
Can we ever discuss things without everyone getting offended? I assume we are all here because we OPENED OUR EYES and ASKED QUESTIONS. Why now do we get offended or defensive or nasty at people who ask "sensitive" questions which are quite valid? If you all started a thread asking each other if they thought I was a reptilian, I would look more highly of you simply because you were stretching your brains and questioning things.

its not what you say its how you say it that matters.

I personally believe Kerry deserves the respect to have this topic worded a bit better then it was.

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 01:08 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21163)
Can we ever discuss things without everyone getting offended? I assume we are all here because we OPENED OUR EYES and ASKED QUESTIONS. Why now do we get offended or defensive or nasty at people who ask "sensitive" questions which are quite valid? If you all started a thread asking each other if they thought I was a reptilian, I would look more highly of you simply because you were stretching your brains and questioning things.

*ROUND OF APPLAUSE*

thankyou friend.


I was waiting for such a response though !!

*rolls eyes*

izz 09-20-2008 01:09 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21163)
Can we ever discuss things without everyone getting offended? I assume we are all here because we OPENED OUR EYES and ASKED QUESTIONS. Why now do we get offended or defensive or nasty at people who ask "sensitive" questions which are quite valid? If you all started a thread asking each other if they thought I was a reptilian, I would look more highly of you simply because you were stretching your brains and questioning things.

i understand what you are saying boogles but it was not a valid question.
this forum is project camelots forum ... it belongs to kerry and bill and it is very rude to question if they are genuine .. would you walk into someone's house and insult them .. if even by a back handed question ..

no i thought not !

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 01:13 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by izz (Post 21170)
i understand what you are saying boogles but it was not a valid question.
this forum is project camelots forum ... it belongs to kerry and bill and it is very rude to question if they are genuine .. would you walk into someone's house and insult them .. if even by a back handed question ..

no i thought not !

IZZ ...I understand your being protective of bill and kerry, I too am very fond of them and appreciative of what they have done for me...read back and you will read I stated that. But at the same time...it is healthy to enquire if there is a theme of thought relating to it, given we are all interconnect and we are living in a global conspiracy! Ever heard of Above Top Secret.com?

So forgive me but I think it is a well founded question once the seed of doubt was planted in my head.

Much love xx

izz 09-20-2008 01:17 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
i am not being protective .. i do not know bill and kerry but i do respect them and this is THEIR forum .. and i have a highly developed sense of justice and fairness ..

maybe this forum, their forum is not the right place to ask that question IMO ..

Quote:

Ever heard of Above Top Secret.com?
are you winding me up ! :) haha

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 01:17 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21178)
IZZ ...I understand your being protective of bill and kerry, I too am very fond of them and appreciative of what they have done for me...read back and you will read I stated that. But at the same time...it is healthy to enquire if there is a theme of thought relating to it, given we are all interconnect and we are living in a global conspiracy! Ever heard of Above Top Secret.com?

So forgive me but I think it is a well founded question once the seed of doubt was planted in my head.

Much love xx

Raising a question like this does hardly anything other then cause trouble. Its up to you to come to your own conclusions based on your observations and your intuition. Bringing this into open discussion is hardly going to achieve anything good.

*nudges QueenOfLeon* - quit rockin the boat :naughty:

Shellie 09-20-2008 01:21 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
I am not sure if I agree.

Part of me wants to start a thread with the names of everyone interviewed, so we can all post NOT what we think of them, but WHY. Maybe some of us picked up on different things... which could be better clues pointing to this illusive "truth". I don't want to cause problems or arguments, but I would truly love to learn what other people are thinking. Maybe they are thinking things I haven't thought of before.

Do you all think that is a lousy idea?

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 01:21 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond (Post 21184)
Raising a question like this does hardly anything other then cause trouble. Its up to you to come to your own conclusions based on your observations and your intuition. Bringing this into open discussion is hardly going to achieve anything good.

*nudges QueenOfLeon* - quit rockin the boat :lol3:

Thank goodness I have my life jacket on. Sheesh harsh waters here captain. :mfr_lol:

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 01:23 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21187)
I am not sure if I agree.

Part of me wants to start a thread with the names of everyone interviewed, so we can all post NOT what we think of them, but WHY. Maybe some of us picked up on different things... which could be better clues pointing to this illusive "truth". I don't want to cause problems or arguments, but I would truly love to learn what other people are thinking. Maybe they are thinking things I haven't thought of before.

Do you all think that is a lousy idea?

Actually i think thats a fantastic idea! Everyone will have perceived them in their own way so it would be interesting and maybe even enlightening to see it from a different perspective.

Just dont let me in the George Green and the Leo Zagami posts :lmfao:

QueenOfLeon 09-20-2008 01:24 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 21187)
I am not sure if I agree.

Part of me wants to start a thread with the names of everyone interviewed, so we can all post NOT what we think of them, but WHY. Maybe some of us picked up on different things... which could be better clues pointing to this illusive "truth". I don't want to cause problems or arguments, but I would truly love to learn what other people are thinking. Maybe they are thinking things I haven't thought of before.

Do you all think that is a lousy idea?

Thats all I wondered too ...since my freind said that to me I wondered if anyone was thinking the same thats all, and its not my opinion as i said in previous posts. But as this is a forum for critical thinking I thought it was safe to ask.

Much love xx

SkyWatcher 09-20-2008 01:24 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Kerry and Bill are all about openness and disclosure. Do you think for one moment that the powers that be don't know exactally where Kerry and Bill are living? Why should she hide what is probably already out in the open. After all, to buy a house sometimes even to rent, you have to do a tremendous amount of paperwork, background checks, etc. You are totally exposed financially, let alone the emotional side, if she bought a house.

Kerry and Bill are not ducking out of town when the stuff hits the fan, and Kerry has let us know exactly where she will be when it does.

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 01:25 AM

Re: Has anyone EVER questioned if Bill and Kerry are genuine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenOfLeon (Post 21188)
Thank goodness I have my life jacket on. Sheesh harsh waters here captain. :mfr_lol:

:shocked: how come the old smiley came up in your quote! So much for me striving for perfection


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