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Bill Ryan 03-09-2010 07:36 PM

New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Hi, Folks:

An update interview with Jane Burgermeister is posted here:

http://projectavalon.net/interviews.html

http://projectavalon.net/Jane_Burgermeister.jpg

This really is quite an interesting conversation. (Don't miss the moment of comedy after 28 minutes when the video ends - and the audio continues for a further half an hour... :) )

Very best to all, Bill

Daft Ada 03-09-2010 07:50 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Thanks Bill, nice one mate I will go and watch it :cup:

Aztar 03-09-2010 08:26 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Great Video.

She is such a cutie :)

Bill do you see any connecting links between the Jane Burgermeister interview Video & Audio and The Anglo Saxon Mission?

Daft Ada 03-09-2010 08:39 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Wow! the stuff about Ireland is amazing Bill, that really does need looking at. To be honest I can't see the control freaks in the UK ever allowing any loopholes that would give us an advantage, and if there was they would just deny it and then change it behind our backs :mad3:

amate 03-09-2010 10:55 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Thanks, this was really interesting, especially the informal off-camera conversation with all those "rubbing" sounds in the dark LOL
She is such a fine and brave lady !

Connecting with Sauce 03-10-2010 12:44 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Bill,

Nice layout of the new site, good luck with the new venture. One thing I noticed when playing inside PA site there is no time shown on the movie window.

Also will mp3's be available still? This is how I listen to most of my stuff when I'm in the car etc...

Thanks.

mkspllmn 03-10-2010 02:58 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
I have been hoping for that ray of hope.

Dougall 03-10-2010 03:31 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Have millions of doses of this vaccine been shipped to Haiti? Are all the people there who seek medical attention being given this vaccine as a matter of course? I have no info I am just asking.

777 The Great Work 03-10-2010 04:07 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Whatever you focus your attention on, is what you become conscious of.
There is no swine flu.
:lol3:

mu2143 03-10-2010 04:43 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Whatever you focus your attention on, is what you become conscious of.
There is no swine flu.
So if I just focus my consciousness hard enough, then you cease to exist??

Your not your real ,Your not your real ,Your not your real ?

amate 03-10-2010 07:05 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
The beautiful thing of Jane Burgermeister is that she brings this important information in a loving way .
She owns the info and the information doesn't own her. She is in no way obsessed by it, she is totally in balance.

She knows how to turn people from victims into warriors.
She is bringing the information through the heart and not only through the mind

Bill, that's how you are doing it as well....heart and mind in balance
The mind can be messed with....knowledge of the heart is universal

Now let's hope there will be no messing up with the universe....:lol3: :mfr_omg::lightsabre::nono:

Oliver 03-10-2010 10:57 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Two women played a key role in the victory of the humanity against the swine flu terror.

The first one is this gentle sweet beautiful being Jane Burgermeister who bring back to me the belief in my lost profession - journalism! When it is real - there is no power to stop the truth.
The second one is that brave Polish woman - Minister of health - who was watching over her people as a mother over her kids and did not allowed vaccines to be taken in her country. She gives hope not all politicians are corrupted. A big hope.

They are heroines of today`s world. Thanks from our hearts to them.

Seashore 03-10-2010 11:09 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
There is another side to this story.

amate 03-10-2010 11:11 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Oliver, I fully agree....
What is this with women.......:wub2: ??

There is another brave woman in the US wo looks after our health.
You should read and watch her !!

Rima E Laibow MD , Medical Director of the Natural Solutions Foundation . www.Global Health Freedom

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=4478



Oliver 03-10-2010 11:17 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
I didn`t know about her, amate, I will watch the video. Thank you.

And I forgot also the Great Lady former Finland`s Minister of Health dr. Rauni Kilde.

Love for all of them!

amate 03-10-2010 11:22 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Why don't we let women rule the world :original::original:

Dougall 03-10-2010 11:36 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 253288)

That first link was very informative Seashore!

Seashore 03-10-2010 11:45 AM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amate (Post 253289)
There is another brave woman in the US wo looks after our health.
You should read and watch her !!

Rima E Laibow MD , Medical Director of the Natural Solutions Foundation . www.Global Health Freedom

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=4478



There is another side to this story, as well: "Laibow's Lackeys - The Truth Behind Rima Laibow MD and her Colleagues (Parting the Curtains of the 'Natural Solutions Foundation')." by Dr A True Ott .

amate 03-10-2010 12:03 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 253298)
There is another side to this story, as well: "Laibow's Lackeys - The Truth Behind Rima Laibow MD and her Colleagues (Parting the Curtains of the 'Natural Solutions Foundation')." by Dr A True Ott [/url].

Oeps.....:wall:....this is getting interesting:shocked:
Thanks, I will see into this:sneaky2:

burgundia 03-10-2010 12:06 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mu2143 (Post 253174)
So if I just focus my consciousness hard enough, then you cease to exist??

Your not your real ,Your not your real ,Your not your real ?

maybe he will cease to exist for you..why don't you try...:winksmiley02:

Seashore 03-10-2010 12:06 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amate (Post 253302)
Oeps.....:wall:....this is getting interesting:shocked:
Thanks, I will see into this:sneaky2:

And thank you for your courteous response.

aroundthetable 03-10-2010 12:16 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Great follow up both video and audio, thanks Bill :thumb_yello: and to all who took flak trying to spread the info. :wub2:

iainl140285 03-10-2010 12:22 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amate (Post 253292)
Why don't we let women rule the world :original::original:

Ever heard of Margaret Thatcher? :winksmiley02::naughty:

burgundia 03-10-2010 12:26 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iainl140285 (Post 253309)
Ever heard of Margaret Thatcher? :winksmiley02::naughty:

That's why they chose her, because she had a lot of masculine traits...

amate 03-10-2010 12:31 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iainl140285 (Post 253309)
Ever heard of Margaret Thatcher? :winksmiley02::naughty:


Ohhhh...Was that a WOMAN?????? :wall::wall:

watchZEITGEISTnow 03-10-2010 12:45 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Thanks Bill - she's awesome ...

off topic ... I hope you gave her a flower for the 14th (Valentines) :P

Bill Ryan 03-10-2010 01:10 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Hi again, All:

To Seashore and anyone else who somehow wants to believe that Jane is some kind of fraud:

1) Watch both of my videos of her from beginning to end

http://projectavalon.net/jane_burgermeister.html

http://projectcamelot.org/jane_burgermeister.html

2) Click here to download the various charges filed by her:

http://theflucase.com/index.php?opti...mid=94&lang=en

It's entirely possible that the charges might not have been filed correctly, might [easily] have been completely ignored internally once filed, and/or may not have succeeded in their intentions. (I can't comment on any of these things: I'm not a lawyer.)

As you can also see (and which she freely admits) she entered this arena with little experience, and was not accustomed to dealing with the kind of attacks which routinely are attracted by anyone trying to make the world a better place.

But by God, she tried, and in that example she's an inspiration.

Before rushing to knock other activists, let's first look in the mirror to ask ourselves what we have each done.

We need more like Jane, not less.

Very best wishes to all, Bill

SWIFT 03-10-2010 01:13 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Hey Bill,
Great Post and brave lady,:thumb_yello:

Peace,:original:
SWIFT

mkspllmn 03-10-2010 01:36 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 253340)
Hi again, All:

To Seashore and anyone else who somehow wants to believe that Jane is some kind of fraud:

I think she is one of, if not the, most credible witnesseses Camelot has.

I also feel that she is incredibly brave and inspirational.

The world probably owes her a huge debt of gratitude for her efforts. And she actually lived to tell about it. The PTB actually got a blow right in front of our very eyes.

Long live Jane Burgermeister.

Seashore 03-10-2010 01:42 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 253340)
the kind of attacks which routinely are attracted by anyone trying to make the world a better place.

Jane Burgermeister was the first to go on the attack.

Linda 03-10-2010 06:47 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 253356)
Jane Burgermeister was the first to go on the attack
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore (Post 253287)

Because Bill Ryan continues in his support for Jane Burgermeister, which my research indicates is an error, I am posting excerpts from this more lengthy communication from September 2009 by Dr Ott at this time:

"Hello Kerry and Bill:

"Many thanks for the recent post...

"...One such call, back in March, was from a 'free-lance journalist who worked for the BMJ in Austria' who identified herself as Jane Burgermeister.

"In good faith, I proceeded to give Ms. B all the information and documentation that I had accumulated. She seemed so very legitimate and morally outraged...

"At this point, everything was fine between myself and Ms. Burgermeister. Soon, however, things started being more than a little 'strange.' Jane began 'free-lancing'unilaterally with the documentary evidences I and others had accumulated in May. (See attached white paper.) She demanded that President Obama and others be formally charged for the offense of mass murder — even though there was no credible evidence as to their actual involvement. (I tried to tell her many times that 'gut feeling' is not evidence.) She began to systematically submarine the 'team' that I had assembled, (Alexander S. Jones from the NIH, Dr. Rebecca Carley, Alan Phillips, JD, Dr. Deagle, Dr. Evangelista, et.al.) She then shocked everyone on the team by declaring PUBLICLY on radio and European TV, that she had filed HER (not our team’s) charges with the FBI IN THE UNITED STATES, and had done so unilaterally. No credit was given to her 'team.' It was all about Jane PERSONALLY!

"In her public declarations, she clearly inferred that the other team members were false 'double agents' of Big Pharma sent only to discredit HER EFFORTS! When all of us asked her to verify her claims by telling us specifically which FBI Offices she was working with, and to provide FBI case numbers – she publicly claimed we were trying to 'smear her' and then, of course, she threatened criminal and civil actions against US. All we have ever asked for is DOCUMENTATION FOR HER CLAIMS. We are still waiting for this. Three weeks after Bill Deagle and I discussed Jane’s 'filed charges' on Deagle’s radio show, Jane actually publicly claimed (falsely of course) that Tim Vawter’s petition for injunction was actually her FBI criminal charges that she had filed in the U.S...

"I would remind you that it is only 'Citizen Jane' who is publcly threatening other activists with legal action and of being dis-informers. All we have EVER done is simply to ask Jane to provide legitimate proof of her claims.

"If this isn’t bad enough, Jane is continually soliciting donations for her 'cause' – and by publicly lashing out, seeking to discredit others, she of course gets bigger donations. (Poor weak Jane, being picked on by big, mean male doctors who are Big Pharma double-agents.) Conversely, I am most definitely not doing this for MONEY, far from it. It has cost me many thousands of dollars in time and material to try and share the truth. Ditto with Dr. Deagle.

"Frankly, I am very disappointed that you have not vetted Jane B. much more thoroughly. Where are her '10 or 12 e-mails to the FBI' that she claims to have available? Since when did the FBI began placing field offices in the Austrian Embassy? Why are you so blindly taking her word for everything she claims?? (Why is she blinking so very excessively during your taped interview??)

"I can virtually guarantee that if you PRESS HER TO PROVIDE PROOF OF HER CLAIMS, you will be charged with engaging in a 'smear campaign' as well. Are you up to the challenge?? Provide us with DOCUMENTATION that she has in fact 'officially filed' her criminal charges with the FBI as she so vehemently claimed to have done back in June and July, and I for one will be more than happy to issue a very public apology to Jane. Will you press her hard for this documentation?? Or will you continue to play 'patty-cakes' with this woman?

"I submit that most intelligent, thinking people can see through Jane and her plagiarized activism for profit. Why can’t you??

"Respectfully,

A. True Ott, PhD, ND"

.

Thank you for exposing this.
I tried telling my friend about her just yesterday when he was going on and on about how great she was and he didn't believe me when I told him the truth.

I will direct him to this thread.

Seashore 03-10-2010 06:52 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Linda (Post 253621)
Thank you for exposing this.

Thank you for the appreciation; the task has been an unpleasant one.

Linda 03-10-2010 06:59 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Yes, it is always unpleasant, but necessary to help others wake up and stop following the group think.

Christo888 03-10-2010 07:12 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work (Post 253168)
Whatever you focus your attention on, is what you become conscious of.
There is no swine flu.
:lol3:

And ultimately what will manifest!


Someday the Omniscience, Omnipotence, and Omnipresence of that statement will ring through all creation.

:thumb_yello:

Have a nice day!:wink2:

gita 03-10-2010 07:17 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
I’m not sure what to believe either way but the organisers of Alternative View 4 which is ‘UK’s biggest truth event/conference’ decided to drop her as one of their speakers as she refused to provide the necessary documents to back up her claims. The requests were by other speakers but no names were mentioned. This was announced on live TV show called Edge Media by one of the organisers called Ian R Crane who himself is now accused of selling dodgy dvds! All this infighting!!:nono: The plot thickens!

Linda 03-10-2010 09:37 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gita (Post 253652)
I’m not sure what to believe either way but the organisers of Alternative View 4 which is ‘UK’s biggest truth event/conference’ decided to drop her as one of their speakers as she refused to provide the necessary documents to back up her claims.
The requests were by other speakers but no names were mentioned. This was announced on live TV show called Edge Media by one of the organisers called Ian R Crane who himself is now accused of selling dodgy dvds!
All this infighting!!:nono: The plot thickens!

When did this happen?

gita 03-10-2010 10:41 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Linda (Post 253773)
When did this happen?

Two thursdays ago on Live Tv. The same show also had Jane on last year.

Bill Ryan 03-10-2010 11:30 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gita (Post 253652)
I’m not sure what to believe either way but the organisers of Alternative View 4 which is ‘UK’s biggest truth event/conference’ decided to drop her as one of their speakers as she refused to provide the necessary documents to back up her claims.

Not so. Jane told me about this when I met her.

She was appalled that Ian Crane had unilaterally dropped her BEFORE asking her for any documentation.

She immediately offered to send documentation to prove her bona fides, but Ian Crane had already made up his mind - apparently influenced by persons unknown. Jane was extremely disappointed.

It looks like someone out there is still trying to turn this around to make Jane look bad. (Why would they do that?)

The documentation is here ... as I posted earlier. Please read it. And do also read what I wrote before risking hurting someone with inaccurate information.

Seashore, I'm familiar with the e-mail exchange between True Ott and Jane... it was copied to me months ago. I have the entire thing.

I can't and won't post it, for obvious reasons, but let me just say that I was pretty amazed with the way True Ott rounded on Jane and attacked her in that exchange - which he has continued to do publicly. I have not been able to explain the way he has handled himself.

It's worth asking why one member of the truth movement would spend SO much time attacking another, when they stand for the same cause. Seashore, you are not doing anyone a service (least of all yourself) by perpetuating this negative energy. Please stop it.

If you really want to find out more, rather than parroting someone else's attacks, WATCH THE TWO VIDEOS FROM BEGINNING TO END (have you done this?) - or, better still, take steps to meet Jane personally and make up your own mind.

It's too easy to cast judgment on another human being from one's own armchair, relying only on 'internet research'. There's WAY to much of that around.

That was my beef against Clif High, and it's also my beef against True Ott. This is why Kerry and I made all our videos: to provide the best possible substitute for meeting someone in person and getting to know them.

With best wishes, Bill

Majorion 03-10-2010 11:44 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Personally, I find Jane credible, and I was more than satisfied with the documentation.

The way I see it, is you have the anti-vaccine crowd and the pro-vaccine crowd. I can't understand - for the life of me - why anyone would promote a government vaccine or encourage others to take it, or worse yet; attack others who speak against it.

Anyone who takes a look at that old 70's American government swine flu commercial, urging people to take vaccines, and here we are same fear mongering in the 21st century, is monumental evidence of an agenda taking place, obviously the big pharmaceutical companies are involved (and who controls them by the way?) I think its safe to - at least - say that this "vaccine" is potentially dangerous and people should be well aware of this. Jane has been attacked by more than one person, which makes you wonder what "those" peoples' agendas really are.

Seashore 03-10-2010 11:59 PM

Re: New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan (Post 253851)
...True Ott ...

Dr A True Ott is a dedicated and thorough researcher and servant for the public good.


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