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Dear friends there is a fair amount of fear mongering on this forum.
Get off it.
Why?
A story.
One of my close friends was a Black Belt Karati Instructor, as fit as could be.
He took the advice to get various flu jabs over the years has had numerous health issues since, he was genuinely concerned about getting flu and after all he is over sixty and that age group is suposed to be more likley to die from flu. Is that so?
I doubt it.

Anyway positive thinking boosts the immune system.
All fear without exception reduces the natural ability to avoid illness.

The fight or flight syndrom produces an adrenalin high and then the crash,

Very successful athletes may get nervous but they dont have fear the moment they start performing. Their best performances ocur when they get in the "zone"

If you trace fear down to its ultimate cause, its a fear of death.
Remove the belief that you die and you remove all fear.
If you have the slightest faith that there is life after death then what is there to fear.
If the world ended to morow could you cease to exist? I think not.
So why worry?

Any good spiirtitual teacher looks years younger then their age.
Eckhart Tolle is in his 60s he looks 50. Dr David Hawkins in his 80s and full of life.

Books like "The Power of Now" by Eckhart and "Power versus Force" By Dr Hawkins will hellp to developpe a belief that there is life on going after death of the body.

Power is of the Divine, force is of the ego.
The ego produces and loves fear. Power being of the Divine promotes health and well being.

You have a choice choose wisely.

Im not saying put your head in the sand, dont be aware of what is happening in the world, no im saying be aware of the events of the world but dont get caught up in it.

Papers are sold on bad news,
There is so good news out there but rarely reported because it is so common place that it dosent sell newspapers.

Once we get off the bad news addiction then we might just see a better world.
We tend to attract what we think on.
Think positively then thats what we attract into our lives.
The opposite also applies.

Losers limp explains it well.
I watched on tv an Oxford Cambridge boat race a while back. At the end the winneres were full of life ecstatic. The losers exhausted slumped over the oars. There was only several foot between the winning result and second place (only two boats).
Thats the difference between believing you can win and doubting your ability.

Reporting fact is one thing, drawing all kinds of conclusions from it is different.
Two plus Two still = Four as far as I know.

You will always find evidence to support your point of view, just let go of a point of view and see what happens.

The ego will go to enormous lengths to prove itself right.
Who cares!!! Its a so what!!
Having a point of view is human and fine but dwelling on it and thinking it is the truth and the only possible point of view is unhealthy.

And thats just my opinion
Feel free to differ.

Chris

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Agreed and well put.

Be greateful for all of your experience not just what you term as good, but everything. Every moment has a purpose...


Cheers.

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Chris, this is very true.
There are some intentional tricks here to draw our attention toward fear.
There is no other way to prevail them, than to focuss on our basic positive ideals.
Let us not allow to be involved into labyrinths without exit.

Love&Respect

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Thanks for comments.
The thread will probably not get get a lot of attention.
Being realistic, which is positive.
After all who thinks/realizes that they are fear mongering?
:mfr_lol:

Now If I stared a thread entitled. "Hear This I have proof we are Doomed"
Of course your going to die we all do.
But not yet I hope.

Only thing to be frightened of is fear.

Chris

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Thank you very useful, I may add that fear is just ignorance, if we learn and dispel the darkness of a subject we no longer fear

So the best way to overcome fear is by confronting what we fear, understanding which are our choices and what we can do about it

Love

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Yes and no. Just one word confront.
That which is given energy tends to persist.
Confront implies force.
I spent years as a therapist helping people overcome transcend fears/phobias.
NLP was very helpful, Hypnotherapy too.
You cant force fear to go it will fight you with the same degree of energy you use to fight it off.
Sometimes outside support and help is necessary.
Dispel I agree with totally, evaporate it.
Understanding great too.
Visualizing what live will be like, lived full of confidence is helpful.
Assume a virtue and it yours.
Hope this is of help to some one.
Chris

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Hi Greybeard--

'If you trace fear down to its ultimate cause, its a fear of death.
Remove the belief that you die and you remove all fear.'

these words are the heart of what you're saying, i think -- wise words -- i have had some painful lessons this lifetime re acting from fear

i myself really don't see any fearmongering on either the PC or the PA forum -- i see a lot of info, including some very helpful info of a spiritual nature

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

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I have always found that when fear arises, and it will, I must face those fears -- look them straight in the eye -- and I always manage to overcome them. For we have nothing to fear, not even fear itself. :original:

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Morning to you Grey you are in quite a cheerful mood today.
Good and bad experiences when we take the fear factor away leads to profound insights , that leads to peace and tranquility. A few times in my life fear has hit me. One time I was swimming in the Ocean and a got drag down by a huge wave. No matter what I did I could not pull myself up. In moments like this your life flashes before your eyes my fear turn to happiness and hope a very distinct voice just said, 'don't give up' , so I did not and then I made it to shore, happy as can be I felt like a new man was just reborn in that moment. If we give in to fear we missed the point of what awaits for us once we overcome our fears, the chance to explore, learn and experience.

Is time to go Blessings to all...:original::thumb_yello::wub2::wub2::wub2:

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You have to go through it to get through it...imho
:original:

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Yes this is true.
Each fear gives a choice to build spiritual muscle or get dragged down by it.
Any one who is not fond of the word spiritual can of course substitute -- positive thinking.
Speaking generally of course.
Chris

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{quotes of greybeard} positive thinking boosts the immune system.

Im not saying put your head in the sand, dont be aware of what is happening in the world, no im saying be aware of the events of the world but dont get caught up in it.

Papers are sold on bad news,
There is so good new out there but rarely reported because it is so common place that it dosent sell newspapers.

Once we get off the bad new addiction then we might just see a better world.
We tend to attract what we think on.
Think positively then thats what we attract into our lives.
The opposite also applies.


Losers limp explains it well.
I watched on tv an Oxford Cambridge boat race a while back. At the end the winneres were full of life ecstatic. The losers exhausted slumped over the oars. There was only several foot between the winning result and second place (only two boats).
Thats the difference between believing you can win and doubting your ability. {end quotes}
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I agree^^, The images in our heads have a very good chance of materializing. We need to be very careful when dwelling on undesired thoughts. :thumb_yello:
If only people knew how to empower themselves without fear...
Fear is an serious issue, it often discourages people from living up to their true potential.

Peace

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Yes had a similar experience Frank my friend.
I kissed the beach.
It sure strengthens one.
Chris
Chris

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believe in oneself brings peace and tranquility, we realise that´s nothing to fear.

:original:

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let's face it almost EVERY "insider" interviewed by Project Camelot paints a very challenging and dramatic or "fearful" picture of what our near future may look like...they give their SMALL slice of what they have been told is going on with the Illuminati's agendas...they are usually not very spiritually developed and hence come to very "fearful" conclusions about things....so if you complain about this forum being "fearful" than why are you even here on this forum...Project Camelot has interviewed so many "fear mongering" insiders who play in to the Illuminatis fear spreading games, whose projected futures have already not occurred...for example...economic cpollapses last year,Swine flu mass deaths last year,massive terrorist attacks last year...none of them have come to pass....what most of these people fail to see is that timelines they speak of have already collapsed as they speak of them...so don't take any "insiders" opinions too seriously...mine gthe gold from the ***** and work on raising your own frequency,that's the best thing you can do for yourself and the planet...it's an INSIDE job,not an "insiders" job

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Thanks for this love your signature.


Yes the whole world belongs to us.
Lets change it.
Mind you to be honest my world doesn't need changed since I changed my mind.
Ch

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Thank you for your observation greybeard, I should have chosen my words more carfully

What I intended to convey was to have the courage to look at our fears

as in confront - deal with (something unpleasant) head on; "You must confront your problems";


Love

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To the pure all things are pure.
"Nothing is right or wrong till thinking makes it so" Shakespeare said that.

However not everyone is at the point where they can shrug of "bad news " and call it a learning experience, takes time to develop that kind of attitude. Took me half a life time.
and dont test me yet on everything -- smiling.

I chose the title of the thread to attract attention therefore healthy debate.
If I had called it The good news thread (great idea why dident I ) then only the people who are allready aware of the power of the positive would have read it.

Ultimately nothing is bad or good it just is.
People who share their strength and hope on the forum lift those who struggle with the "news" So there is a balance here.

Ch

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Yeah, we can say that everything is "perfect" in our manifestations because they reflects which kind of energetic frequency we have chosen

Ideal is to be in resonance with Source and to live in harmony with the laws of the universe

Love

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Hi your a Star.
After my comment I realized there are other meanings to the word confront.
My apologies.
I love people posting as it helps me greatly, it triggers responses which are sometimes not completely appropriate.

Ch

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Looking around the cave men slowly approached the Dinosaur, quietly approaching hearts pounding with fear, senses peaked to the limit.

Adrenalin pumping through their system to the point of recognizing any movement and being able to react as in reflex.

They knew before the beast moved it was coming, because their inner instincts were open almost allowing them to see into the future... :starwars:


Fear is actually an important part of preparing for a battle, getting past the fear gives strength to the point of heroism.


now the real question is, who is instilling the fear and what do they gain by bringing us to the point of lighting up our abilities?

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It's incredible that consciousness manifests itself in such manner. This morning I had a mind bubble consisting of an 'avalon-eckhart-tolle-now-nothing-to-fear' compounds. I'm fascinated by this connectedness!

And as a side note on a subject; being now in presence and not feeding your mind with fatal scenarios and digress about what can happen seems to be the only logical way (although the mind/ego says the opposite). We are going to die, that is our physical bodies will, and we can't do anything about it. So why fear it and try to omit what's inevitable ? Fear nothing and live your life the path of love :)

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Could it be by being tossed into these likely scenarios, our minds are getting preprogrammed so if and when the day comes we are prepared to act?

The world has plenty of sheeples that wake up go to work, come home and go to bed with no thoughts of what might be coming in the future.

this is a meeting place of the gifted from around the planet, I would love to see a pinmap of the areas watched by this forum.

We aren't afraid of jumping into a subject and discussing the possibilities for all those reading along. As we are discussing best possible scenarios for an outcome, we are sharing wisdom to many that might need it in the future.

So I'm afraid the fear does have its purpose and strange as it may seem is doing all of us good.

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Good post's Rock, they make us think.

Every time we overcome fear we advance and grow as a being, and every time we give in to fear we retreat and do not grow as a being and will just face the issue again in another fashion. To arrive at a state where there is truly no fear is to be a master of one's own life.

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It comes to the point where fear is non productive. ie rabbit in the headlights.

A rock climber is aware of the danger of climbing yet he cant afford fear.

Im suggesting that knowledge and preparation is one thing fear another.

A fireman need a cool head when rescuing some one from fire, he needs to calm the person that he is risking his life to save, of course its dangerous, would fear help? I think not.

The Climber and fire man are totally in the NOW. They cant afford to think of fear, or whats for supper for that matter. Their lives and others depend on being completely focused.

So Im suggesting that we have evolved beyond the animal instincts, they have served us well. Now we have the ability to be aware of danger with out the need for fight or flight adrenalin, we are evolving becoming more Right brain humans.

Ch

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The rock climber and the fireman overcome their fear through their experience and training. This is their process of evolution. As one becomes more knowledgeable through experience the fear subsides. The fear of climbing and firefighting subsides.
Upon arising in the morning and walking through the kitchen and you happen to step on a wet rope fear will seize your mind thinking it is a snake ready to bite, but as you look down to see the snake you then realize that the supposed snake is a rope and the fear is gone. Learning from this experience the wet rope will have no more fear in your life should you step on it again. Had it been a snake, a quick reaction on your part induced by the fear may have saved you from a deadly bite.

~Namaste

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A Ramana and the rope,
Yes the illusion of fear has to be faced.
Different strokes for different folks.
Mountain folk know the dangers of running from bear which would seem to be a fear induced panic reaction.
What is appropriate in one situatiion would not be appropriate in another.
In general adrenalin fight or flight is not healthy but it might save your life long enough for it to be unhealthy. :mfr_lol:

Id rather be happy :mfr_lol:than right.
Nothing I say or think is written in concrete.

Eckhart Tolle said "Dont take your thoughts too seriously". Im trying ---very.

Namaste to you too.

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The only point I am adding here is that I do not think that we will wake up one day evolved out of our fear. The fear of death - the fear of the unknown - the fear of pain - the fear of being alone, etc, etc, We will need to face each and every fear and then see them for what they are - oh, fear is that you again, how are you, well you can go back to where you came from now I am done with you - Overcoming our fear through knowledge and experience and learning to live in a state of peace, recognizing that we have nothing to fear, not even fear itself, we will find ourselves fearless. Fear is overcome by facing them through knowledge and experience.

And the only absolute is that there is no absolute. So I am sure there are a myriad of answers to this thread.

~Namaste

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I ain't ascarid of falling either.

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Hope we do get a myriad of viewpoints that helps greatly as then I have a choice of how I deal with knee jerking situations.
There is no i deal ideal way.
Eventually I got to the place that the only way to deal with a certain situation was to ask for Divine intervention to help me, in a fear filled situation. I got the help.
With Love
C

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If you refuse to let certain things get to you, there's no way they'll get to you. In other words, don't pay attention to those trying to drum up fear.

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Yes its that simple.
Thanks
Chris

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you do know, no matter how many times a doctor taps your knee with a hammer, will still cause a reflex reaction...

you can try to control it and pretend it isn't there but that little rubber hammer pierces through the illusion and your leg bounces again... :wink2:

now if you inject yourself with enough Novocaine to numb your senses so there is no feeling...

it might not move...

you step on that wet rope again 2 weeks after you convinced yourself it isn't anything to be afraid of in the dark and you will jump again...

heart pounding, adrenalin rushing, followed by a laugh and dang it...

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Hi Rocky
My favourite author Dr David Hawkins says when there is a state of enlightenment that reflex is no longer present.
The same one out walking stumbled upon a rattler, there was an awareness of danger but he said the presence of love handled the situation. He and the rattler looked at each other and the rope I mean snake slid away.
However Im not in that state so I might be real glad of a little adrenalin if the wet rope turns out to be a snake.
30 years ago I rescued someone from a fire. I was drunk at the time though. Saw smoke poring out underneath a flat door opened it, wrong thing to do, lets oxygen in. Anyway I stumbled on someone lying on the floor and pulled him out. It was so black you couldn't see an inch in front, all respect to firemen. I was too out of it to be scared. In the morning I couldent believe what I had done. Sobriety arrived in my life soon after.

Ch

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not long ago, I went for a walk down to the beach it was high tide so I entered through a different path I normally take and as usual was barefoot as I stepped through the rocks to work my way down to the sand.

as I was standing on a rock looking for my next step I felt something wet brush my ankle looking down I saw it was the tongue of a snake...

I recognized it as a rattler immediately but felt no fear and didn't jump to get from it's reach because I would have been hurt worse landing wrong on the boulders below me.

maybe I didn't taste right so he didn't bite but I thought he was just saying hi as I was passing.

It was coiled but it's rattle wasn't shaking so not disturbed at my presence.

If I was afraid would it have recognized it and struck me knowing my adrenaline was peaking ready to defend myself?

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a friend was with me on the walk and the moment I saw the snake my first thought went to her safety, I reached behind me taking her hand to direct her to a different path...

I have been tested many times that is just one I remember because it was so recent.

I was down at the beach one day with my sisters and all of their families, and my kids were grabbing my hand pulling me to head out and play in the waves but I had a feeling and told them to wait for a bit.

Suddenly my hair was standing I knew something was wrong so I jumped to my feet and looked around and then I saw it. A small toddler was climbing under a bridge the sand was pushed up so it was blocking the flow of water forming a small pool beneath.

I sprinted across the beach not even remembering my feet touching the sand as I watched him tip forward head first into the water his arms too short to push himself free.

There was barely enough room for me so I dove in head first under the bridge catching a foot and pulling him back so his head was clear of the water.

It took a little for me to wiggle back out from under the bridge, but I was right behind the life guard towers and they hadn't even noticed the commotion. I picked up the small child and walked back over to where my family was having a picnic and set him down on the blanket to join us.

15 minutes later the frantic parents came running up the beach calling out for their child...

They only spoke Spanish so my sisters translated what had happened...

It was close, but what we are here for...

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Good posts! :thumb_yello:

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Go Rocky Shorz! You are an inspiration! :thumb_yello:

At what point does facing reality become fear mongering? At what point does positive thinking become delusional and irresponsible? I like the concept of Positive Response Ability...wherein one faces reality with positive and negative thinking...and formulates positive responses and solutions.

:original: Namaste :wub2: Constitutional :wink2: Responsible :wub2: Freedom :original: