Abraxas has been enjoined and his group is closed Edited
 

Tango felt the need to ban abraxas without warning
and to close the group


I would like to know why?

Re: Abraxas was banned and his group is closed
 

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Tango? He isn't a moderator?

You are refering to this I think:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showp...83&postcount=1

Namaste, Steven

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Tango isn't a mod. Must have been someone else. Nobody claims the deed in the "final thuban thread". My money would be on Richard.

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makes sense enough said where is the delete button for this thread...?

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There may very well be good reasons to put a stop to certain activities...for legal and ethical reasons...but the abraxasinas threads may contain valuable information of historical, contemporary, and future value. I find pulling all of the abraxasinas and Thuban material http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=20721 to be very curious. I did not identify with or subscribe to the Thuban material...but I smell a rat. I'm sorry...but why can't the objectionable and legally problematic posts be removed (and safely stored)? This site has gone down so many times...that I suspect foul-play and powerful plug-pulling. I'm not mad...I just wished to place this point of view on the record. There needs to be a way to access the abraxasinas and Thuban material...even if it's complete BS...and abraxasinas is the most unsavory character imaginable. It may have great research value. If abraxasinas was in the process of turning from darkness to light...and was beginning to expose the darkside...this material takes on even greater value. I made a couple of pointed posts on the abraxasinas thread...and abraxasinas did not respond to the second one...which was the most intense. Then...last night I thought I saw a very brief UFO dogfight (my first sighting - and I'm not sure what I saw - or thought I saw). I felt sick. Now I feel even sicker. I wished to attempt a cordial and friendly conversation with abraxasinas...but now I can't. Nobody can. Again...I hope that the reasons for this action are as stated...and that they are not being imposed by alphabet agencies or underground bases.

OK...you pulled my thread titled "Thuban Thoughts". Why? Please restore this thread immediately. Now I am mad. Who's next? Has the crack-down started? Don't chip me bro!

Now...back to your regularly scheduled program. Stay in your homes. Everything is fine.

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I have to agree with some of your points, ODM. I'm not sure it's necessary to wipe out every trace, as has been done. at least removed from public view, anyway. (there's a locker in the staff area where this stuff is kept)

I also agree that your discussion thread had no business being lumped in with Abraxasinas' threads and his social group area.

But something tells me that there is no regret over having had the opportunity to take this action present itself. And we're not ever going to see any supporting evidence, for or against, so it seems a little like a done deal. (Except for your discussion thread. I'd really like to see justification for removing that).

If the "subject" of Thuban is now banned along with the purportedly offensive material, then it's a censorship thing, and "Houston...we have a problem".

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This fits much of what's been going on lately on this forum, but I'll post it here:

"You are afraid of us - afraid of change.
I don't know the future, I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end.
I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
I'm going to hang up the phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see.
I am going to show them a world without you - A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries.
A world where anything is possible.
Where we go from there is a choice I leave with you." ~Neo

KOYAANISQATS!

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I was hoping for improved relations with the Thubans. How about "Live...from the Thuban Mehta Center for the Performing Arts in Alpha Draconis...it's 'Christmas With the Thubans'...with a special appearance by 'The Groovin Thubins'! My goodness...haven't we all come a long way from the dark days of the Thuban Missile Crisis??!!"

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so was abraxis just a nutter trying to pick up conspiracy-forum chicks?



edit: just kidding guys, I have no pro or anti thuban stance.

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:mfr_lol:

That was good! :lol3:

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Not really. I don't think that has left certain minds and consciousness at all. Just notice that announcement thread. It's called final, it's locked, yet not stickied. To me, that says "go away, and the sooner the better".

If I were you, I'd push to have your thread restored, after any needed editing. That's been done before. In fact I did just such a project here one time. I sorted a big bunch of threads that were in the holding pen, for whether they should just be deleted, or given a new home in an appropriate sub-forum after some editing of nasty comments, and that sort of thing.

So your thread could be restored and anyone still interested in discussion of the topic could do so. It's died down a lot, but there was still some active debate and discernment taking place, which is a good thing.

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As a forum moderator, I was not advised of this.

I am working very hard at the present to get to the bottom of this.

Perhaps this whole forum has been taken over?

Uncle John

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i have never had anything,
but, been treated with respect by tony/abraxas ?

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This is a conspiracy forum? No wonder I'm such an odd ball here. :argue:

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Yes Uncle John


Ask Richard and Tango

Jealousy can do terrible evil things to people

So evil they begin seeing Evil in everyone

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WHAT?!

Taken over by who?

What dose that mean?

i really do not like it when things like this are said and or happen!

PEACE!!!

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It would be prudent if someone would come up with some sort of proof of the people that were harrassed, mmmmmh.

I am smelling those torches around the stake here.................

We are not in the middle of the 1500s now, so whether you like or dislike the person maybe some proof would be a good idea.

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I got this from Tango

Mariey.... I Love You... I just Ban, Abrax...

I can not lose you to some one that is Reading out
of the Book The Woman with the Dragon Tatto...

Don't be angry at anyone else, as it is ME concerned

about My Friend [that I Love]... Please don't Leave me

I'm protecting My community...

My Friend... That I LOVE...

With respect for you...

Trooly,


Tango

Yell at ME No one else...


Tango needs to be banned if he is allowing his arrogance to ban people without warning and without being allowed to defend themselves

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Well, well, well.

I did not follow this person because I was not interested in what he had to say.

Still, FREE SPEECH is a very important thing to me from EVERYBODY as long as they do no harm.

So, what exactly did he do for this to happen? Who called the shot?

If he stepped over the line, then I completely understand, but if not....

That would be VERY worrying for us and the future of this forum.

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Makes you wonder which other threads will suddenly disappear.....

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if someone did this, that is NOT a mod
they should be banned !!!

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I'm going to break from protocol here. Normal protocol is that moderator discussion are kept private.

Things are seriously wrong with the moderation on this forum at the current time.

I have tried to discuss this with others in management but have only been able to reach a few of them and I don't believe those I'm talking to are real.

Hold on, we will get this straighten out, but it might take weeks.

Uncle John

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SO, who is TANGO the spiritual grandfather LOL ???

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Take weeks?

Hmmmm

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SOMETHING is ROTTEN in den-mark ;)

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This is not the case.

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We should have a vote on who gets to be banned. Unless the members at avalon votes really wouldnt count anyway.Oh well, in that case. I say we should ban someone once a month. Offer them up as a sacrifice!

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Those who wanted him gone all along have this pretty neatly and tidily wrapped up now. They can't show member complaints, so we have to take their word on them. And they can't leave anything which could be construed as contributing to the complaining members discomfort in view either, which they can just claim was all of it, or that there is just too much material to sort, and it's removed pending sorting. (which will never happen)

I think those supporting the right of Abraxasinas and his Thuban threads to be here, have simply been out strategised. Which wouldn't be hard to do, because they weren't plotting anything. lol. So had no need to try to apply counter strategies to thwart the villagers who were never going to let this rest.

I'd personally be surprised if anyone told Abraxasinas to leave them alone, and that he refused to comply. But we'll never see any evidence in that regard either.

Neatly done, this was. Someone knows their Art of War.

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Our moderator conventions and understandings are being ignored at the present.

GaiaLove appears to be acting alone in his actions.

Uncle John

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Thank you Canada, I am glad to see you guys have got the gutz and the forethought to know this has been planned for a while.

You are 100% right. This has been a planned move by one of tptb who once again is going to let an innocent person take the fall.

I know I am not supposed to name call......................so.............to .... ....

you are a facist p.... and will get yours.

BTW you do know this is slanderous saying things like that that cannot be corroborated. Pr..k.:tongue2:

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Interesting....but I doubt that he is acting ALONE.

Where does Bill stand on this matter?

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It's a checkmate. Just the claim of sexual harassment takes this out of a negotiable situation. It also means they not only don't have to, but can't show supporting evidence. Checkmate.

But you can't hide your intentions and double dealing shenanigans from a bunch of intuitive people, so now what. Everybody looking knows this was the product of a well planned campaign, yet no redress can be forthcoming due to the nature of the comlaints.

Methinks this will backfire.

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The avalonwar part 3! Funny thing is I agree, i think they have been sitting around plotting this. "Hmmm how can we ban him from the forum. We cant just ban him. mwuahahah let the games begin. Avalon domination!", lol. This is awesome.

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did 'the ark' hit someone's sore spot ???

all the private group messages, are wiped out too

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Bill has already made his position clear on this. More sleep not lost.

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pretty serious things to accuse someone of esp; in a public way

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The ark?

group messages also wiped out?

Wow.....the plot thickens....

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I say you about to get banned!!! :mfr_lol:

THERE WILL BE NO SACRIFICE!!!

Do you have anything constructive to contribute to Project Avalon!!?

JTEYE