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Why is this website and forum important? I won't go into details .. the only thing I'll say is that whenever I needed a well rounded opinion from all possible aspects on a certain subject, I posted it on this forum and the quality of the replies was always very high.. which in turn spoke that this is pretty much the only place on the internet frequented by some very advanced people.. how you behave here has many consenquences.. and I can't / won't say more on the topic

Energies have gone down over the last year or so, paradoxically for the reason that many more people have discovered this place.. and as more 'average' people join, the energies keep falling. I won't say whether its a good or bad thing as such things are relative.. I am just stating the observation.

http://artfiles.art.com/5/p/LRG/6/67...nd-fantasy.jpg

What this place desperately needs is a wind of fresh energy, clarifying energy sweaping the satturated growing bureacracy of too many moderators, too many rules, too much political correctness and too much following of principles. The very principles which were supposed to be only a beacon of light, have enslaved both Bill & Kerry into following them blindly at all costs (at the cost of shutting down the forum over a so called 'freedom of speech') and those that have picked sides..

A wind of dark energy is needed, filled with common sense, freed of enslaving principles and guided by only one law .. do as you will.. If this website manages to get to the next point and establishes the most needed balance between light and darkness.. great things await

Part of me wants to go full out and get involved and spill out all the details of how this could work, but this is not my battle.. I can only hope this website remains what it has been .. if not .. the torch is always passed

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The controversy, as I can quickly gather, after my two week break from the forum, is mostly over a matter of removing content, that in Bill's, opinion, works against us all in terms of the "big picture." A decision to "pull" content should be the perogative of both of the founders. The big "thinking point" here is whether or not the founders should individually use and enforce their discernment skills. Is that loss of freedom? No, not really. Removing disinfo is a decision that is content based, not personal or political. When one founder knows not to give voice to those agents of wrong, dangerous, disinfo, they should have the right to do so. If it splits the Project into two paths, then that is the best way to Ensure free speech. A positive B and K mitosis, so to speak. This way, members can get the best of both worlds, choose what to read, but still have both founders able to express individual discernment of that most important content!

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A rhyme comes to mind:

To live in Heaven with the saints...oh that will be glory.
To live on Earth among the saints...now that's another story.

My thought:

When one stands upon a mountain-top...spirituality is easy.
When one argues on the internet...spirituality is difficult.

:original: Namaste :wink2: Constitutional :wink2: Responsible :wink2: Freedom :original:

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The Chosen....Tell Me, do you consider Yourself above average?
Whatever criteria You are using?
If it's ego...well Your name says a lot.
How do?
hobbit

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hobbit: I don't want to answer that question or take the discussion in that direction

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On the contrary. I think as long as Avalon does't get shut down it is going to

become more energetic I can feel it. This site has morphed into something on

it's own and Negative energies have tried to infiltrate, but failed miserably,

because of the bonds formed on here and the mutual understanding and respect

from most members to each other.

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HEAR HEAR!!!

Kerry is on..i hope she reads your post

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My dear friends some of whom I know personally and many whom I have not yet met.

I am sure the future is going to be GOLDEN!!!

Is there any other way?! :mfr_lol:

What we should do is start a suggestion thread for ideas that can make this place rock even more then it already dose! There is news about avalon 2.0 and that's about all I have heard.

I'm sure we all have some ideas. I got a few good ones floating around me ol noodle :) If the official team wants to hear some a thread asking for suggestions and ideas from us all would be a great place to start...maybe drop a hint as to what changes are being planned...some may work some will not but its the point of getting input from all who come here to make this place awesome. advanced or beginner we can all learn from each other!

PEACE JT!

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A very positive outlook Jester, you have met another friend. :original:

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I really like what you have said Linda. I agree totally. I am an advocate of free speech and I am sure Bill is also. He did not demand the thread to be locked, he gave his own opinion. I understand his opinion, after all, we are guests here, it is not a public forum.

We should be able to say why we are in disagreement with a certain philosophy. Personally, I see the thuban material existing to confuse and divide. It is not the first time I come across that kind of perception and I find it hilarious sometimes. But it's only my opinion. If others see something interesting in this, then it should be let free. As our disagreement regarding the material.

Sometimes, there are as many opinion as the totality of people in a group. We just have to learn how to give our opinion without reacting to others opinions like if it were attack on our beleif system. After all, the thuban material is nearly all about beliefs and perception.

Namaste, Steven

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A heart based experience creates positive changes .
Creating a greater coherence of hearts beyond and above mental dissonances is what will make the difference to the future of Avalon .
Its time everyone outgrowth it's inner dichotomies and steps out as the pure Loving essences that we are .

Love Always
mudra

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I suppose a little hobbit is deemed too low down , or sub average???
Sorry, I don't see any difference in anyone, we are all one, it's just that we have forgotten so.
You're the one who proclaimed some sort of superiority and that others are below average, so sorry if you don't want to discusss it , but I will, and recognise the multitude of talents that all the posters on here have, and do not appreciate any talk of superiority by anyone, it's a short step to the nazi gas chambers with that sort of thinking.
Hobbit

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Classic :biggrin2:

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I agree... this board has provided a quantum level of growth for me. It is wonderful to have a place to go to for a sounding-out of consciousness struggles ( and joys/revelations) and to be able to delve into issues and explore the possibilities in my spiritual journey. No one can do this alone.- I know- I have tried and I never get very far...

I understand that there are going to be squabbles, that is a given - as each of us tries to comprehend the implications of the facets of the issues within ourselves... I do understand that feathers can get ruffled in the guidance/correction process of each persons growth (I am not perfect either)... and I both agree and disagree on the censorship of strife... but I also realize that some of us are more spiritually mature than others and that there needs to be some sort of supervision to keep tempers tempered while we all attend to our own growth paths...

I sincerely hope to see this board continue onward (and upward) as i feel it is a vital component for all of us.

:thumb_yello:

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I like your style Jester ! I side with the optimists too !

Is there any other way indeed ??

Yes, of course there is ... but I like this one best.

(and That's what tiggers do best!)

As far as the suggestions box goes.. after a few forays into the chat room.. I'd just love to have some online game or other we could all swamp en masse. That would be hilarious. And I'm not talking about yahoo cribbage... Although.. if anyone fancies a game..! No. I mean imagine something like Nightfall or Sims - where we could interact in virtual 3d... lol...

Can we not have an Avalon Bar..where our avatars can meet and buy each other cocktails ?! What you type goes into speech bubbles.... :original:

No on second thoughts.. scrub it.... it might only increase the drama !

:original:

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JesterTerrestial,
I consider the chosen ones post to be a CLASSIC.
A classic of division, they drees people up in silly uniforms to make them feel special....superior.
That post is everything that is wrong on here, cliques and little private clubs, the whole stupid site went to pay only???
You may as well form another branch of the masons if You follow that thinking.
There should be no division, nobody strutting about thinking their some form of film star or something, thats possibly what Kerry has fallen for?
Some pretty face telling Her She can be a star?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Z8m...eature=related
hobbit

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Please be a little more careful of the language you use. Is it necessary to call someones information that they have spend valuable time developing, as dis-info and dangerous? Why would you say this unless you wish to push an agenda or have proof to the contrary.

Do you have proof?

Please don't 'protect' me or this forum from 'dangerous information'. We are quite capable of making that determination on our own.

Peace

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There is Yin and Yang in internet forums as well.

If we can succeed in taking this to "the next level", we will discover things exponentially to what we are now.


Look above, Seek within
Find a single grain of sin
Not blot it out, nor let it consume
But be aware, to let other things bloom.

May your choice choose well
May the light be seen
Banish the thought of a hell
For all things shall soon be green.
:original::original::original:

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"No on second thoughts.. scrub it.... it might only increase the drama !"
Kulapops

:mfr_lol: I thought you already learned your lesson with on-line interactive avatars:lol3:

IMO - I have learned as much, or maybe more from everyone who participates on this forum as I have from the PC videos. However, if it wasn't for the PC videos and webpage, I would never have found this forum:original:

There is a need for both to continue and this maybe this is the catalyst for new growth.

El

PS - it is possible that I may learned more than I wanted to know on the chat.....:yikes: (kidding)

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Hobbit, I do agree that we all have a role to play. Its obvious to me because here we are. Going pay was not such a bad idea IMHO because the truth sayers are a minority and somehow we had to guide the REVOLUTION that AVALON IS! Did you see the crap that was posted...what about after the subscription ended...look at the wonderful posts that were added. I saw a few more of those today.

The team has done a great job for the most part minus a few little bumps here and there. But com on look what were doing! Look what we have been up against! I do not think Kerry is falling for anything. I have not met her or Bill in person but have a great deal of respect for them both. The work they did seriously saved my life! I was a lost soul and the connections that have happened since I joined this amazing virtual community are "out of this world"! The next phase is gonna be intense!

We are all important! Your special, just like everyone else! :thumb_yello:
However some folks seem to have a great responsibility.

I do believe it is way past time to polarize our intentions positive. No time to start like now. We must rise above and work as a team to be able to functionaly help humanity into the golden age! peace jt!

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I agree wholeheartedly. I think the people of Avalon are fast becoming its biggest resource, including all our relative journeys of self discovery.

That's why it's a shame when the forum goes down... and you find yourself looking for friends in the chat room.

When you think of the hundreds of members of Avalon, don't you think that it's amazing that we get along so well?

I think we should be pleased with that... and gratitude is definitely due to the Mods and to B & K for facilitating this learning arena.

for me, the vids are now totally secondary. For one, I'm not as worried anymore as I should/could be... and two.....er..., two... oh well, someone wake me up when we have some decent UFO footage !

That's another great thing about this forum ! When I first found camelot, I had no one to ask, so I watched everything ! Now I have the views of people I trust or know to go on... so you get to read about it on the forum first before investing an hour and a half of your life.

(still, that hour and a half tends to end up spent in the forum.. no I'm not sure if I'm really winning.... :original:)

K

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Some people really can't wait to start a fight, lucky for them they are not worth the fight (referencing to hobbit).. as I said in my initial posts.. energies have been dropping around here lately

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The inner struggles reflect our outer struggles with each other. I think it is a very difficult job to separate yourself from the information and people you interview. It can have an effect on both a positive and a negative level. As project avalon and project camelot are frequented by so many cyber users across the globe we will get smother with all kinds of energy. It is up to each one of us to maintain our composure amid the storm.
The quality of information posted on this forum is overall very high. We are all contributors , lets continue adding positive value to this forum with our participation in it. Those that have hidden agendas will be affected by the contagious virus of respect and love that we all share for one another irregardless of differences of opinions, backgrounds , believes, philosophies, religions,etc..

Blessings to all...:original::thumb_yello::wub2:

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"The quality of information posted on this forum is overall very high. We are all contributors , lets continue adding positive value to this forum with our participation in it. Those that have hidden agendas will be affected by the contagious virus of respect and love that we all share for one another irregardless of differences of opinions, backgrounds , believes, philosophies, religions,etc.."

HERE HERE, Frank! :thumb_yello: I appreciate your putting it so well .... gratitude, respect and love ..... REGARDLESS ...... that's the "ticket" imo!!

love,
hippihillbobbi

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I see the Thuban stuff as disinfo because it is just too self-centered to make any sense. Read the first post and tell me that it's not something out of an erotic novel.

Anyone with a computer and a creative mind can type up stuff and claim to be from another galaxy. That's the problem with this site. We're giving too much of our energy to such things and we're not getting physical proof that these entities are real.

Call me close-minded if you want but at least I took the time to read some of that forum.

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YOU are what is typically WRONG, I am not picking any fight of any sort, just sick to death of the system where people place others in sort of league tables, ususlly with themselves at the top.
It's used to divide everyone, and to keep the general population in servitude.

"Lucky for them they are not worth the fight( referencing to hobbit)"

That sums up what I am sick to the back teeth of totally, moronic garbage that leads to self superiority and detachment , where one set of people think others are disposable.
Who the F*** do You think YOU are ????????
Hobbit

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Hello,

Hobbit I hear you,

Chosen you also,

Now lets stop the fight, Sort it please, JT's posts are a worthy read.

Peace

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hobbit: Thanks for making my point. Making a whole load of assumptions about someone you don't know (me in this case) and having wild & wrong interpretations of my post about Nazis and gas chambers will get you nowhere.. As already stated I won't take this discussion in that direction.

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"Divide and conquer"....Bill and Kerry are been divided,now all that has to be done is conquer.

As much as i hate to see it...this is what i see.

WE NEED UNITY....PLEASE RECONSIDER

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Erm... I don't believe so. Do we need someone to maintain a certain state of being so that we can feel at peace?

Not likely.

Unity comes from allowing to the world to unfold as it does. Things that are out of your control are out of your control. My world today is the same as it was last week, only it has changed. :original: I am happy that it has changed.

Where is the division? There is only change and growth.

You are a day older today than you were yesterday.

Is that dying or is that living?

Your choice.

K

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I am not pushing any agenda, nor am I trying to protect you. You have the right to read anything that Project Avalon contains. You have the right to your opinion, and I am not asking you to prove what you know. Maybe what you know, and what I know, are different. I respectfully reserve the right to say that. Now, if Bill Ryan is questioning content, he has that right as this is his forum. As to proof, I may decide to go through, post by post, and back up my statements. It's so obvious, though, that I am not motivated to use up forum space to do that, really. Again, obvious in my opinion. I respect your right to disagree. Linda

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Well put some more effort in then instead of complaining about it and thereby making it even worse.

I actually know you can do that if you want. You got the chops for this.

John..

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Anchor, I understand what you are saying but as I said even though a part of me wants to get fully involved, this is really not my battle.. these are only symptoms of a much deeper problem that needs to be solved by Bill and Kerry. I tried to write few thoughts on the direction this could go in my initial post but its as far as I can go

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I don't think Bill and Kerry need to solve any problems other than their own.

I think it's great that we can post our concerns and our desires. I guess we are all as fully involved as we want to be. I wish I was less 'fully involved' but I can't seem to stop myself from posting....

Anchor... when is my temporal ban coming up please ????

I guess, the chosen, however much you feel like posting or not is also fine. You are fully involved as much as you can be.. or you'd post less/more or you'd post differently. But talking about wanting to post more but not being able too is surely likely to engage the curious... It's like not telling the end of a story...

K

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Dear Linda, the burden of proof does not fall on your shoulder, it is a misleading rhetoric. If I claim that there is 43 dimensions and 91 Universes all fold into one sphere of consciousness and then say prove to me that what I say is false. It is rather illogical, because it is mine to prove that what I say is true. Incredible claim ask for incredible facts said Carl Sagan.

Namaste, Steven

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I,ve about had it with YOU, I am making no assumptions at all, I am deeply offended by YOUR opening post on this thread inferring that some posters are in some way inferior to others, thats not assumptions or any such thing, it is highly offensive to even infere such thoughts, and surely the very essence of what needs weeding out of our present elitist society.
I don't want any discussion with thee t'old flower, don't fret about that.

I have kept fairly quiet whilst on this forum, but I reckon it's time for us little people to wake up and and say our peace.
NOBODY is better than anyone else, there are those with extra field auras about them ,autistic in particuler, with many of the youngsters out to 55 feet diameters.
Hobbit, set to ramble.

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Steven you missed the point as you do many times.

Lindas' assertions that the information was 'wrong, dis-info and dangerous' was non other than a value judgment placed upon a post by 'her' evaluation. ( so if I show up wearing a blue dress and she wishes for it to be pink... then I must change my dress to suit her needs)

I simply pointed out to her that it was 'her value' judgment and did not reflect the values of all participants.

I have no 'burden of proof' to you, Linda or anyone else about what I choose to post or not to post, or what I choose to believe or not believe.

If this is position that the owners of Avalon are angling for? Hmmmm... I wonder.

Peace

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THE FUTURE BELONGS TO ALL OF US

not, just some of us !!!

the sooner we realise that, the better

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the time for fan clubs - is OVER !!!