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Control of avalon - domain name transfer
Hi all,

For those who are not aware, Project Avalon was taken off-line for the past few hours due to a dispute between Bill Ryan and myself in regard to the removal (closing) of the Thuban thread. I closed down the Forum to prevent further destruction of this thread and to ascertain from Bill, why it had been closed. I later learned that he had not actually closed it himself but wrote a message advising the Mod team that it should be closed. As a result it was closed. I have not seen this message. I advised Bill that I temporarily shut down the forum for a few hours and wanted to discuss this and other things that he has been doing that are in violation of copyright law as well as slander of a certain individual. I wanted to prevent any further violations of this nature, due to the fact that his actions threaten me, my status as a youtube director, Project Avalon and Project Camelot as his actions leave us open for lawsuits.

For some reason Bill chooses to ignore this and continues to make disparaging remarks about Jack Burns who accompanied me recently on my trip to Europe and in the U.S. conducting Camelot interviews. Bill was of course invited to come along declined as he wished to remain in Switzerland and did not want to go along with me or with Jack. As I mentioned on Camelot, my plan is for Jack Burns to work with me via my new site Project Camelot Productions to create Camelot conferences worldwide, once an investor has been found.

It will be of special interest to all that Bob Dean has embraced Jack Burns as a brother and we spent many wonderful hours chatting about many subjects while in Laughlin. Bob and Jack share a background in the military. I will be releasing an upcoming interview with Bob in which he substantiates further witness testimony from several of our whistle blowers.

It is important that people recognize that with over a million visitors a month and a pending TV show in the works Project Camelot is vulnerable to become a target of the PTB (powers-that-be) at any time. It is with this in mind that all must realize that using a very famous song such as the Beatles IMAGINE on a Camelot video would be unacceptable... without first obtaining the copyright license. This is common knowledge in Hollywood as well as in media circles worldwide.

I have now relinquished control of the projectavalon.net domain name. I wish to state here that I do not agree with the editorial stance of this forum and do not agree with the removal of the Thuban thread. This site is now completely under Bill Ryan's control.

I am working to establish an overall portal page where links to all our respective sites will be including a link to Project Camelot.

Best wishes,

Kerry
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..."if you build it they will come"
Field of Dreams

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I am so confused right know wow :shocked:. I don't know what to believe

anymore. Kerry have you read this thread yet. Bill Ryan's Post on project Avalon

chat.

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I love you Kerry.

It would seem that the planets are working against everyone right now.

Thanks for your courage.

Love,

Kriya

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As long as whistleblowers and good info is put forth I will continue to support PA/PC. :)

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Kerry, whit respect I will say that don't exist a neutral investor in this world and the succsess of PC is because is good as gold, trust. Monique.:shocked:

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That is very sad news to me. PA activities should not endanger PC. I see a lot of misunderstanding, and also different point of views creating a split. It's in the air, I see it everywhere... Let the wind pass before making decision. Maybe a couple weeks... Or might there be other things we do not know... Anyway, I will follow you both on your journey, seperated or together.

Namaste, Steven

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Bill Rayan = 1

Kerry Cassidy = 1

1+1= Everything

2-1= Nothing



TR

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That`s a really good advice.
I hope K&B will take it.
Love them both.

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will originator's of threads
be allowed to choose
whether their posts go to project avalon
and/or project camelot ?

thank you

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I wonder what loyal Mod will be sacrificed this time to appease the B&K Gods?

Who will be the scapegoat this time so B&K can walk around unstained from their sins?

How many lies will they tell and retell to defend their morality?

B&K stand on a pile of mods and members who have put their hearts and souls into Avalon... only to be sacrificed to the greater good of "Avalon" in order to cover up the greed and pettiness of B&K.

This is no more than a public domestic situation. The kids (members) are being split up amongst the parents. The property is being distributed equally, each one trying to destroy the most loved aspects of the other.

"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned / Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned." "The Mourning Bride" (1697) by William Congreve.

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Hi,

I just read this post from Kerry and understand some of her points.

1. Where ever you host, they have Terms of Agreements to follow
2. If some person writes in stating a site is violating some legal law with correct proof then the hosting company must take action.
3. People love to threaten online sites. If you can avoid it then stay out of the arena.
4. The bigger you are the more of a target you become.

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Sorry, but it doesn't even seem like you read the post. This has nothing to do with "sacrificing" mods, this is a conflict between the respective founders of the projects that happen to affect members but mostly it affects their stance towards whistle-blowers and other individuals within the PC network.

I see no signs for a reason to remove any mod's. That is absurd and not the issue.

But "control of information" debate is a serious topic, and it should be discussed. No one has the right to take on a "mentor" role or guide peoples perception of the 'truth', not mod's, not Bill and not Kerry. You read what you feel drawn to, and you make up your own mind.
Thuban as well.

If someone is proclaiming ritual abuse or something of that like, that is not Ok, but then you don't swing freedom of information, you swing common sense.

So the "do you have children?" metaphor won't work, no-one should take upon them self to "guide" anyone here unless they ask, not anyone.

This is not church.

Thank you for your time,

Tommy

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What is needed is a cooling period... (collect your thoughts)...

After, a time, a sort of pretrial conference... NOT A TANTRUM !!!


Shutting down the forum was a TANTRUM....


Adults learn to Talk...



Trooly,

Tango



.

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Having read Bills points in the chatroom, (which still need to be verified - maybe a video ofBbill confirming he typed all that stuff) I think kerrys statement is weak. That is all.

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BINGO!

This whole conflict just seems childish and silly in my eyes and it serves as a distraction from issues such as the current earth changes (quake in Chile) and so forth. The PTW get what they want when we become distracted.

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A call for focus..

thank you HJ and all..

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Not at all Humble Janitor. As we work through our issues, we deal the PTW the greatest blow we can, because they depend utterly on our remaining befuddled in our confusions. We're sorting. And the Universe is pushing the process. Let's not take hasty steps that interfere with our individual and collective corrective actions and healing processes.

We are on the right track, even when the fan gets splattered

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I completely agree. (with 777)

I have nothing but gratitude to Bill and Kerry for creating this site and this space for us. All their hard work.

Even with the familiarity of knowing who they are or might be from reading their words and seeing their videos, I do not for one minute believe that I own a piece of them.. nor of the piece that says 'they are BIll and Kerry'... they can be whom they choose to be, together or separate, one forum or two.

Would we put such restrictions on ourselves that we demand from them?

If either wanted to work in Macdonalds as of tomorrow, that would be fine with me. Whatever further insights or words they have to give is also up to them. As it is for anyone else on this forum.

I am glad that you have written something about the matter Kerry, and Bill has too. So we are not wondering about what may be.

This is a kindness from you both.

We must all find our own way in this world. We cannot find it through the lives of others, though we see our own reflections in them.

Peace and love to all of you,

K

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Why are Bill and Kerry fighting they should no better than that.

With all I have learned from them and others it seems as they are going against all they have been teaching.

Is it me or does the TV show seem weird.
They have gave up a lot of time and money to do what they have done and
I am so grateful, but it seems as if their moods are changing to the ego side?

Wish them well they are great brave people and hope they can work out whatever they are fighting about. Just does not seem right coming from people like them that know better.

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I am a new member here, and thought i had found a place of freedom and truth, .... so when i see things like petty squables boil over and actualy shut a forum down, it makes me wonder if i havnt swapped one Controler for another, this forum i thought was for all of us to express our thoughts, ideas, however wacky they may seem, i relise we dont live in the world we all would like to, but i can show many forums that refuse to kowtow to the PTB, and dont worry about copy right laws ect: and stay online with out trouble,

my real point is, we are supposed to be the awake ones... yet when we subscribe to this ego/ pettiness, we leave ourselfes open to ridicule and certainly dont help others to awaken, this in fact is just what the PTB want,

So bill and kerry, whatever your reasons for your disputes and no matter whos right or wrong, you are doing yourselfes and all of us a great diservice by your actions, you both started this ball rolling you have a responsibility to see it through to the end, let go of ego, and remember what it was that got you to started in the 1st place,

one last thing, for you both to have helped bring us all togetheryou deserve
a big thank you, but this thing isnt realy about you two is it, its about every one, you were just the catalist we the masses are the flow ,


sorry to all if i sound a bit angry , but it had to be said ,

love and light to all DJ

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i send my love to both bill and kerry and wish them all the best on new adventures,

keep those heart fires burning and radiate love out
it will be ok

love m x

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Be Love Bill and Kerry as this will make you One.
The love flow is the stargate to the new universe .
Dichotomies we must leave behind . They are the very
stuff this old world is made .

I trust you'll find a way to unity and harmony even if on different journeys.

I Love You both
mudra

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sometimes toothfairy, one must just see things for what they are and let go
no need for fighting, its a compleate waste of energy
only love can move mountains and be the change thats needed
love
m x

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Almost noone seems to choose to rise above the drama.. as the agents of the Matrix best said it: 'only human' :wink2:

The worst thing about it is that it is about a pretty much non-issue.. the thuban nonsense full of fantasy mixed with fiction thread and the heather 'made up in a teenage basement' material..

We say we want the system down.. but do we have an alternative to replace it? How can we ever hope to organise and collaborate with 6 billion people when even 2 people can't govern a simple online forum without going into a full out war with supporters on both sides.. but then again, as Ra put it .. the vast majority will repeat third density.. and for a good reason imho

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John Milton

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The first fall was thinking that finally you had found refuge in avalon, the next was believing that your refuge was a fortress.

Dont be lulled into the next thing, whatever that thing might be. We only test ourselves, what was found out, ask yourselves?

Ask yourselves what might seem like a luducris question; if it was all fake, if they were all actors; every avalon poster was there to find out who you were, would it matter?

What if I was a con woman, would you be bitter, humiliated, or would you care a whit. This is a practice area where practically nothing can happen to you.

What do you do, will you do?

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i like them both for different reasons i hope that they do what they posted on camelot where they both present different material from their own perspectives under the same umbrella of camelot.. seperation of space is needed for both to investigate their own avenues more fully.

again at first a got lost in the info then went further into my learning process and discernement. i took the information and added bis together , getting a sense of the overall picture and what is going on to some degree on earth behind the scenes. i dont take anyones information as gospel. i do think lots of the information is valid in a general sense as its touted around on many other forums and from many other sources. sometimes the minutae of things and drilling too deep into the rabbit holes can get you into trouble . its all conjecture , 3rd hand (testimony?) and supposition.

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Haven't timed it, but you're allowed to use 30 secs iirc...Not sure about the U.S. but fair and not for profit use is normally alright as well (obvioulsy as long as the song isn't on a dvd later).

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Just my two cents.

First, one of my favourite quotes: "Truth never damages a cause that is just." - Gandhi

Second, I think we are living extraordinary times. All this is bigger than us and it is not about our egos at all. We are here to learn and help other people. Please think about it. I really hope you find a way to keep your wonderful task.

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Quote:

"It is important that people recognize that with over a million visitors a month and a pending TV show in the works Project Camelot is vulnerable to become a target of the PTB (powers-that-be) at any time. It is with this in mind that all must realize that using a very famous song such as the Beatles IMAGINE on a Camelot video would be unacceptable... without first obtaining the copyright license. This is common knowledge in Hollywood as well as in media circles worldwide."

It is very sad, I am confused, very much...very hard to understand all what is going on now....but...my feelings are, that Kerry is not being fully honest with her written statements (excuses)....My strong feeling is telling me, she is going straight hand in hand with EGO....
Did she just use Bill to advance her own future career...?

Bill was in their interviews excellent counter part...(his intelligence, his peaceful demeanor, his intellectual capacity, him always being fully respectful towards guests and towards Kerry...).


Yes, I am sad about all of this!!!


Namaste,

Majda

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When I did a couple of different courses we were taught "effective listening skills" which over the years have helped me pick up a few things.

After reading Bill's and Kerry's posts etc, there are a couple of clues that point to what could be going on. If I posted my thoughts here about them I would get banned. It's that freedom of speech thing again.:naughty:

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:naughty:

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I think it may be time for all parties concerned to take a breath.
Forget about who said what and think about who really merits your trust.

Bill and Kerry started PC on a shoestring and grew together as a team. Thats got to count for something. As PC became larger, the audience, as well as potential revenue stream grew as well.

Consider Unions today who look for a big payroll to glom on to for a percentage.

I don't know the players involved in fact I am a skeptic, and don't want to train my mind to see ETs and the like. I am sure some of what PC puts forth is fact and some not. The point is IMO PC has a fine production value. I believe this fact has more to do with the break than the message. It can put a lot of pressure on people to be in the middle of something that may snowball at anytime and who have different ideas about the direction of the snowball.

The fact that Bill and Kerry contrast at times has really added a lot to Project Camelot. My hope is they will give the original team a chance to breathe and remember that they have been through alot together and can still really trust each other, other wise this project never would have came about in the first place.

Whatever happens , happens. But it would be a shame to see such a truly great team break it off.

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Im probally going to get in more trouble with what I say

Kerry, I heard alot of remarks directed towards you, but I will always keep it in my mind that you are fair and honest.

You didnt point fingers or try to hold up anyone coming forward with what they had to say.

I am all for freedom of speech and feel it should not be stopped from anyone.

We all want to be heard and no one likes to be mocked. That to me is so important and I think you took the right stand on this.

Copyright infringement is a very serious problem and should not be ignorred.

Good luck with your work and I hope to see more interviews.

Best of luck to both of you on your separate paths.

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At least it wouldnt be by me this time :)

I think Kerry has a valid point in the Copyright statement.

I dont agree that shutting down the forum was all that smart.

Somethign which is very important to keep in mind in my view is that the forum is actually back again and here we are just as we were before (well almost).

A..

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Seems to me that one important word can describe what's really going on here in this thread and who or what ever is related to it all.

No, I did not say that everyone is arguing here. It just brings to mind a few quotes about arguing. Let me know if you relate to them in anyway or maybe we could argue about it instead (kidding)

Anytime four New Yorkers get into a cab together without arguing, a bank robbery has just taken place.
Johnny Carson

“Discussion is an exchange of knowledge; argument is an exchange of ignorance” Robert Quillen

“The only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it.”
Dale Carnegie

“In Vegas, I got into a long argument with the man at the roulette wheel over what I considered to be an odd number.”
Stephen Wright

“Answer them [critics] with silence and indifference. It works better, I assure you, than anger and argument.”
Gioacchino Rossini

I mean, there's no arguing. There is no anything. There is no beating around the bush. "You're fired" is a very strong term.
Donald Trump

“My wife Mary and I have been married for forty-seven years and not once have we had an argument serious enough to consider divorce; murder, yes, but divorce, never.”
Jack Benny

“When a man uses profanity to support an argument, it indicates that either the man or the argument is weak - probably both”

“I argue very well. Ask any of my remaining friends. I can win an argument on any topic, against any opponent. People know this, and steer clear of me at parties. Often, as a sign of their great respect, they don't even invite me.”
Dave Barry

Maybe the following could be shorten a bit?

It's not whenever Kerry & Bill from Project Camelot help promote the most extremely fascinating & amazingly secret government experiences via their globally known interviews.

It's the fact that nothing, not even argument(s) should ever stop them from continuing & evolving such amazing humanitarian work so freely for our world.
- ClarityofAwareness



Kevin

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Key words of this thread's title are free speech? Bill wanted a thread closed and it was closed. Kerry was told about it and said it shouldn't be because of free speech and made a stand.

Now the forum has been turned over to Bill.

:mad3: Does anyone, anywhere on this forum came to any sort of conclusion about this at all based on the above information.:wall::lightsabre::wall:

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Kerry is in "self destruct" mode and there is no stopping her. She is now separating herself from the people who helped her make Project Camelot a success. This is a tragedy and I am deeply saddened by it. It was such a great project. I wish they could stay focused on the topic and just ignore the mess that is around them but look at the allure that Kerry is faced with. It is just too tempting for her and she is dumping the people who helped her.

I guess we are all human after all.

Goodbye Project Camelot. I will miss you deeply.