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Antonia 02-03-2010 12:32 AM

Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
I'm flabbagasted .... how far does the censureship go?? I was in the middle of a heated debate with a sceptic friend on Facebook and I cout and pasted Steven Greer's open letter to Obamma that was posted on the net last year and next thing....big alarm bells and I was instantly disabled and told the material was offensive bla bla .... what the F.....? Is this some kind of petty burocratic mistake with Key words ? or serious censership does any one know???? or had similer experiances????

mntruthseeker 02-03-2010 12:40 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonia (Post 232586)
I'm flabbagasted .... how far does the censureship go?? I was in the middle of a heated debate with a sceptic friend on Facebook and I cout and pasted Steven Greer's open letter to Obamma that was posted on the net last year and next thing....big alarm bells and I was instantly disabled and told the material was offensive bla bla .... what the F.....? Is this some kind of petty burocratic mistake with Key words ? or serious censership does any one know???? or had similer experiances????


Hey joine the club...............I got booted too for posting the video of the vet that was disclosing how many military men and women are AWOL


I have had many weird things happening to me also but I won't let them shut me up.

Snowbird 02-03-2010 12:44 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker (Post 232589)
Hey joine the club...............

I have had many weird things happening to me also but I won't let them shut me up.

Very, very ditto!!!!!

monique 02-03-2010 01:07 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Antonia, here, in south of south america, a judge censorship and close a site of a newspaperman who write about the corruption of politicians from my city ... bad, very bad the reproach in the internet !!!!!!!!! Monique.

Zeddo 02-03-2010 01:21 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
On a different thread someone wrote about taking back ownership of the media. Personally I think that the internet is "the media" and that we need to take back ownership of THIS media.
Let the newspapers do what they do I could care less, but we need the internet free, free from everything especially ownership by the goons.

This is just the beginning, they want to shut down ALL free thought and expression and they won't stop until we do something about it.

The internet market is HUGE, if we all stopped using it to trade and barter, they would lose their revenue and would have to rethink how they "do business". After all, it is the masses who own the net, and not the few who wish to be king. We can topple them if we were of a mind. What if everybody decided to shut down their facebook accounts in protest? They would mess their trousers because they earn a LOT of revenue from that.

WE HAVE THE POWER, BUT DO WE HAVE THE WILL?

Z

mntruthseeker 02-03-2010 01:27 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Exactly Zeddo

I stopped going to certain sites so as I wouldn't drag the "dirt" with me from facebook

I managed to get up there but under a different email............just to continue on with my postings to heck with them

Antonia 02-03-2010 01:43 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
have just opened up a new account on face book, Toni Leslie, my nick name for real... any way now that I've done it I've lost all interest in going and notifieng all my old Facebook friends.... I'll have fun tomorrow attempting to re post the offending e-mail... Ill have to play around and take out words like Obamma and sensitive info etc and see if it goes through or if I get the " No No None of that here" squad on my case again...hmmmmm

carriblu 02-03-2010 02:11 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
watch out, soon they'll be calling you guys terrorists

Operator 02-03-2010 02:34 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Bummer ... I know how it feels ... every now and then I write a reaction to online articles of a dutch newspaper.
They've clearly listed what their house rules are, before you can reply you have to agree to their rules.

But once in a while the reaction is rejected ... they only say it's in conflict with their house rules. They won't tell you
which one and why .... But I have my doubts ... when rereading my reaction I cannot find any violation to their rules.
It's just because the topic must be too hot ... :nono:

I even considered this week to open a thread and post all my rejected reactions there. This way it becomes clear
what the topics are that are a nono for them .... :tongue2:

mntruthseeker 02-03-2010 03:14 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
hey Operator thats an idea.....I got the craziest letter a few months back from facebook that caused me to re-think of where I go next. I kept it and I should post it up there for all to see what jerks they can be when they want to

Its obvious whats going on

Zenbuoy 02-03-2010 03:35 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
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The employees who shut you down are surely reading the stuff here, yes?



:welcomeani:

Bobbie 02-03-2010 03:42 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
See what happens if you refer to him as the O'man. :lmao:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonia (Post 232602)
have just opened up a new account on face book, Toni Leslie, my nick name for real... any way now that I've done it I've lost all interest in going and notifieng all my old Facebook friends.... I'll have fun tomorrow attempting to re post the offending e-mail... Ill have to play around and take out words like Obamma and sensitive info etc and see if it goes through or if I get the " No No None of that here" squad on my case again...hmmmmm


Swanny 02-03-2010 11:49 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
When I send messages I have to put in security check words, none of my friends have to do this :sneaky2:

tone3jaguar 02-03-2010 12:33 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanny (Post 232755)
When I send messages I have to put in security check words, none of my friends have to do this :sneaky2:

sounds like maby your computer is not saving the facebook cookies for some reason

shiftmonkey 02-03-2010 02:22 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeddo (Post 232598)
What if everybody decided to shut down their facebook accounts in protest? They would mess their trousers because they earn a LOT of revenue from that.

WE HAVE THE POWER, BUT DO WE HAVE THE WILL?

Z


I shut down my facebook account months ago because it started to feel like I was part of a corporate data mining experiment. All those stupid apps coming at me got to be really annoying. :nono: End of rant :original:

If you are interested in getting involved there is an organization called EFF that does a lot to keep free expression going on the internet: http://www.eff.org

Swanny 02-03-2010 02:23 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Just got this message from a friend

Quote:

WARNING!! go to privacy settings, click blocked users and enter automation labs in the name search box, you will see a list of random people who have access to all your account details... block each one seperatly to secure your account again... i had 28!!!
I had them as well

enemyofNWO 02-03-2010 02:58 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Just the last few months I received two emails requests from Facebook to join . I just ignored it . it's not worth talking to them . I always thought that facebook is a dream come true for the spooks organizations on this planet .
Half of the world is concerned about "privacy " and I am on of those . That website creates a surreal situation of unknown people who pretend to be friends . I would never dream to entrust Facebook or any other organization with my personal details . In my situation being a person of special interest to the spooks , it would be a terrible mistake that would open endless possibilities of infiltration .
Sorry to hear about your bad experience Antonia . It seems to me that Facebook behaved exactly according to my lousy expectation of them .

Stardustaquarion 02-03-2010 03:41 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
I am sorry for you Antonia it must be rather umpleasant for you to go through this experience, I also have had emails and videos deleted from facebook it is getting rather pathetic. The only reason I keep the account is cos family abroad

I think that censorship has always been there and the things that don't get censored normally are in keeping with TPTB agenda...

Love

Swanny 02-03-2010 03:48 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanny (Post 232799)
Just got this message from a friend



I had them as well

Looks like it's nonsense
http://www.snopes.com/computer/inter...mationlabs.asp

Peace of mind 02-03-2010 04:04 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Facebook, Myspace and the like are just monitoring hubs for the PTB. We can not forget that DARPA had the internet way before the populace knew it even exsisted.

Peace

illuminate 02-03-2010 04:17 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
unfortunately, I don't find this surprising.
the US government, owns, operates and controls facebook and myspace,
and they have for quite sometime now.

they like to keep track of their children :original:

please don't be fooled in thinking, "they" don't know your every move,
and I mean every! and we make it so easy for them...

they just love how we put every thought and plan on these social networking sites,
they love to see us tweet all day on twitter, they love that we use gps and carry
cell phones with us everywhere, they love us using credit and debit cards...
everything is recordable and traceable, right down to that little box hooked
to your tv and even the HD tv itself, never mind the satellite technology
that can peek right into your windows :original:

I'm not trying to induce an orwellian fear here, this is simply the truth of the
world we live in these days.

and you should be careful, because with a little thing called the "patriot act"
they can get away with anything!

thank god we live in the land of the free?


~ one love ~

Peace of mind 02-03-2010 04:36 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
^^yup, land of the free, haha

I’m not only amazed at how Goggle map is able to scan the license plates on cars but also the ability to see the make/design/ and color of people clothes walking by…you can literally take a cyber ride thru anyone’s neighborhood. How is this done…do they use cameras on police cruisers? Or is this technology similar to the tech seen in the movies Déjà vu and Minority Report? Amazing and sneaky...not sure if i really like it either...

Peace

Swanny 02-03-2010 04:43 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
They just drive cars along the roads with multi-direction cameras mounted to the roofs. I have seen them a few times now.

People are worried that facebook won't be free soon. Suits me :original: but I don't think they will ever charge as like has been said they use it for info on all those registered.

Fredkc 02-03-2010 04:50 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Yes, I have a Facebook account.

That said, I only have it because several friends bothered the hell out of me until I had one. They're still not happy as I only check it about once a month, if that.

If you want my opinion, as an IT guy, here is what I recommend;
Drop Facebook! And drop Myspace!

Instead, just go down to the closest bus depot, and start licking toilet seats.
1. You will probably get fewer viruses.
2. Fewer Spyware bots.
3. You will also probably meet a better class of people.

Plain enuff for ya?

Fred

housemouse2 02-03-2010 04:53 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Facebook is connected to CIA people. Do not put anything of real value on that site. You could deemed a "domestic terrorist."

I only use it for games and 'whatcha doing?" post. Nothing more than that.

Mercuriel 02-03-2010 05:00 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Make sure You archive all of Your Important Information and Videos. This Year 2010 - The Internet as We have come to know it - Will die...

Obama's Administration has said as much in that They would like to see all Conspiracy Websites shut down.

"Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, Obama’s appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, outlined a plan for the government to infiltrate conspiracy groups in order to undermine them via postings on chat rooms and social networks, as well as real meetings, according to a recently uncovered article Sunstein wrote for the Journal of Political Philosophy."

From...

http://www.infowars.com/obama-inform...piracy-groups/

Related Link...

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...t_id=1084585##

:nono:

Shaynard 02-03-2010 05:08 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by illuminate (Post 232836)
unfortunately, I don't find this surprising.
the US government, owns, operates and controls facebook and myspace,
and they have for quite sometime now.

they like to keep track of their children :original:

please don't be fooled in thinking, "they" don't know your every move,
and I mean every! and we make it so easy for them...

and you should be careful, because with a little thing called the "patriot act"
they can get away with anything!

thank god we live in the land of the free?


~ one love ~

Stole the words from my heart.. again ;)

Living in Canada I find myself constantly reminding my Canadian friends that, "Big brother" as many call it, is not just in the US. For some reason most I know seem to believe it is just an American problem. Simply not the case.

All of my "online info" is misleading. It gives the impression I am someone I am not. I have had reasons to keep personal information safe, and the only way I know to do that, is either a) say nothing or b) say nothing of value regarding your personal self. Or not be online at all.. But then how would I watch this game? :D

Even this site is "monitored" along with everything on the internet, phone, TV.. Part of why I enjoy this site so much.. it's almost like straight defiance of that system. Fearless posting really does 'scare" "Them".

Sorry to hear about your facebook account. That must be annoying. Thank you for creating a thread about it though and prompting this discussion. :)

In light, of love
Shaynard

waitinginthewings 02-03-2010 05:26 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanny (Post 232823)

Would like to know who owns and controls snopes.com?

enemyofNWO 02-03-2010 06:21 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
"they just love how we put every thought and plan on these social networking sites,
they love to see us tweet all day on twitter, they love that we use gps and carry
cell phones with us everywhere, they love us using credit and debit cards...
everything is recordable and traceable, right down to that little box hooked
to your tv and even the HD tv itself, never mind the satellite technology
that can peek right into your windows

I'm not trying to induce an orwellian fear here, this is simply the truth of the
world we live in these days. "

I could not agree more . I am sure that each participant to this forum would have a file and a profile . Under the PTB rule , as a principle ,we are all potential criminals ..... . In some other places I also often noticed disappearing posts , that is certainly a sign of control .

Swanny 02-03-2010 07:21 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings (Post 232880)
Would like to know who owns and controls snopes.com?

Yea that's a good point :naughty:

TRANCOSO 02-03-2010 07:54 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercuriel (Post 232860)
Make sure You archive all of Your Important Information and Videos. This Year 2010 - The Internet as We have come to know it - Will die...

Obama's Administration has said as much in that They would like to see all Conspiracy Websites shut down.

"Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, Obama’s appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, outlined a plan for the government to infiltrate conspiracy groups in order to undermine them via postings on chat rooms and social networks, as well as real meetings, according to a recently uncovered article Sunstein wrote for the Journal of Political Philosophy."

Are you kidding?! They love to see who are surfing on those sites.
They're not closing down anything.

Majorion 02-03-2010 08:27 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace of mind (Post 232829)
Facebook, Myspace and the like are just monitoring hubs for the PTB. We can not forget that DARPA had the internet way before the populace knew it even exsisted.

Facebook is a classic data mining operation on a macro scale.

I have never registered and never will.

The only thing I've seen people do on Facebook is retrace old friends they always hated anyway.

Majorion 02-03-2010 08:29 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings (Post 232880)
Would like to know who owns and controls snopes.com?

Snopes is a disinformation website, they also stuck their nose in the Odigo affair of 9/11.

Astra 02-03-2010 09:01 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by illuminate (Post 232836)

they like to keep track of their children :original:

please don't be fooled in thinking, "they" don't know your every move,
and I mean every!

I'm not trying to induce an orwellian fear here, this is simply the truth of the
world we live in these days.



~ one love ~

You took the words right out of my mouth, my friend! That is why I never wanted to open a Facebook account. I had a hunch, I guess ... :wink2:
I am sorry you had that experience, Antonia.

in L:wub2:ve and Light
Astra

Mercuriel 02-03-2010 09:12 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TRANCOSO (Post 232975)
Are you kidding?! They love to see who are surfing on those sites.
They're not closing down anything.

Uhhhmmm - Yeah They will. No argument - You'll see...

That said - I'll just wait for Y'all to come round...

Archive - Archive - Archive...

:smoke:

metaw3 02-03-2010 09:30 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonia (Post 232586)
I'm flabbagasted .... how far does the censureship go?? I was in the middle of a heated debate with a sceptic friend on Facebook and I cout and pasted Steven Greer's open letter to Obamma that was posted on the net last year and next thing....big alarm bells and I was instantly disabled and told the material was offensive bla bla .... what the F.....? Is this some kind of petty burocratic mistake with Key words ? or serious censership does any one know???? or had similer experiances????

I used Facebook a few months to post conspiracy stuff. Building websites is my job. I've seen many accounts being disabled during that time. They were all disabled by automated features to prevent spamming and abuse, but it was not (political) censorship from Facebook. It could have been another user reporting a post as offensive, but it was never because Facebook don't want people saying 911 was an inside job. Facebook has so many members that it requires algorithms for automated detection of abusive behavior. There are warnings before disabling accounts but they are not always obvious if you don't pay attention. The reason why so many people think Facebook censors political material is because they don't understand how these algorithms work, and when their account is disabled, they can't figure out why their last actions on the site triggered the algorithm, but it did. There's no conspiracy here. Yes Facebook does data mining, but it's for marketing and only for the police if you break the law. Posting conspiracy stuff on the net is not against the law (yet) and Facebook does not care if you do.

Dougall 02-03-2010 10:27 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Sometimes I wonder if things like Facebook and twitter will will somehow raise the collective consciousness of humanity. All that rambling internal dialog. However I do think internal dialog needs to be shut out at times. I let the sound of my breathing be my dialog and think of nothing at all for a while. To be honest I know nothing of Facebook and Twitter, in fact I don't even own a cell Phone. It does seem strange that they monitor the content of your ideas on Facebook, just one more thing to get worked up about I guess. Pretty soon we'll all be lined up to receive the micro chip,and get a discount on goods and services. Then after the tipping point, when more people have it than not. the ones who don't want it will get an offer they can't refuse. The war on whatever must be won at all costs! Or not.

SteveX 02-03-2010 11:39 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by metaw3 (Post 233018)
I used Facebook a few months to post conspiracy stuff. Building websites is my job. I've seen many accounts being disabled during that time. They were all disabled by automated features to prevent spamming and abuse, but it was not (political) censorship from Facebook. It could have been another user reporting a post as offensive, but it was never because Facebook don't want people saying 911 was an inside job. Facebook has so many members that it requires algorithms for automated detection of abusive behavior. There are warnings before disabling accounts but they are not always obvious if you don't pay attention. The reason why so many people think Facebook censors political material is because they don't understand how these algorithms work, and when their account is disabled, they can't figure out why their last actions on the site triggered the algorithm, but it did. There's no conspiracy here. Yes Facebook does data mining, but it's for marketing and only for the police if you break the law. Posting conspiracy stuff on the net is not against the law (yet) and Facebook does not care if you do.

At last... the voice of reason I wanted to say something ealier but the truth of it I don't know the tech to talk about it. Would I be correct in saying links with other links to porn or the like are auto rejected? I remember a forum where I tried in vain to post a picture of rockets hitting a tank. The darn thing was constantly auto rejected. Turns out the picture title triggered the auto lock. Picture was called Rockets hit....... read that again rocket s hit

Swanny 02-03-2010 11:50 PM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
Facebook does share a lot of good info between it's members. I've learn some interesting stuff there

SteveX 02-04-2010 12:14 AM

Re: Have just had my facebook account shut down posting Dr Greer's Obamma email
 
AND another thing. Every computer has an ISP address. You can get rolling ISP routers BUT your Internet Company keeps a log. If the PTB wanted to know who posted such and such ... a quick call to your provider gets your name, address, bank details and full history of your web crawlings.

Also I was acquainted with a fellow, through an internet game, that worked at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). He had some dealings with wakco and that entire thing. He was under the American version of the "Official secrets act". This guy used to get drunk a lot. He hated himself because of his job. The most we got out of him, no matter how drunk he got, was he worked with the Internet and could read anybodies computer and e-mails worldwide. However, his job was confined to the USA.

I got the distinct (intuitive) impression that he was a patriot but hated himself for being part of what was really happening behind the scenes. He would drop vague reference to Americans not being informed. About, "if people really knew what happens". Hence being drunk most evenings.


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