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Kulapops 01-14-2010 02:02 AM

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Hi ! I went to see Brian Gerish give a talk tonight.

And it was very good. But his angle is talking about what Icke and Jones say... that is, the physical reality of the calamity.

I've been feeling for a while now, intuitively, that although on the physical plane a lot of this stuff is true (there are rockerfellers, there are illuminati, there are plans for a global police state) it's not the whole truth.

See, because Brian got talking about we need to stop this, we need to fight, it got me thinking... like I have passed that point.

For me, it keeps coming back to 'consciousness is the key' and love.


Did you know that the name for the ying-yang symbol is actually 'tai-chi' (somethingness)? This symbol depicts the interplay of ying and yang... of duality. Tai-chi was created from wu-chi (nothingness).

Wu-chi created tai-chi to experience itself. So consciousness expressed through duality is born. By knowing hot then, we understand cold... One defines the other.

I thought, as I heard Brian talking (...about a call to wake people up in time to stop the bad stuff that is planned for us...) that maybe the fight is not what it's all about.. , the reason why the world is apparently going to such extremes of dastardly plans and revelations is not so that we fight back so good will conquer the tryanny, but so that we the masses will understand duality. This distinction will become so obvious (because everything looks sooo wrong when you first see behind the curtain) that everyone will understand what duality in conscious form is.

And Maybe that is the real reason for the world behavng as it is currently ?

Perhaps when everything is bold in black and white, we will be ready for the next step... which is unity from duality. Only when everyone understands duality can we get unity. That's my thought.

So it's not about fighting, or struggling or vanquishing tyranny - this only heightens the dualism...it's about sharing consciousness between all. Knowing and feeling we are all one, and all are responsible creators of the whole reality. This will be done from the heart, with love and knowledge and maybe then the universe will turn on a dime.

Who knows what happens after that change, but I think that's what the timing of the conscious evolution is all about.

These two things are on the same timetable:
1: The physical... struggle of great opposites on the world stage (government vs the people, sickness where there should be health), and
2: On the consciousness path, a transcendence to unity from within the individual. All individuals at once as one.

So my inkling is that part of our preparation (as well as the matches and the lamp oil :original:) must be in the recognition of the other person as being ourself. We can no longer afford to distance those we dislike as bad or separate, or perceive an another side making plans against us, ... this will only prolong the duality... we must open our hearts to the bigger picture...

Unity from duality.

peace n love

K

P.S. Not that I feel like I'm ready to become part of the borg , mind. I hope it's better than that ! :original:

Apologies for the long post... but it just came to me tonight and I wanted to share it with you peeps. Any thoughts welcome ? Maybe I'm late to the party and this is already written in a hundred places around Avalon !

Gnosis5 01-14-2010 05:15 AM

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Hello Kulapops,

Wouldn't be too hard for you to guess that I might be one of the first members to pop in here and make a comment. :original:

Some speak of going to the positive end of the polarity, but that implies that the negative end still exists and eventually one will whipsaw back over to the negative end. There is still the old win/lose game being played out even if one is operating from the positive end of a polarity.

Polarities are one of the first things we did after separation from Source and after we formed some Prime Thoughts, imho. I'm not a technician, obviously, just have a a few proactive tools for speeding up the address and complete resolution of polarities which I have trained on me. The more I look and see the more I know.

Jim Self: http://www.masteringalchemy.com/jims_articles.html explains the basics better than I can.

I've had a few adventures this lifetime but nothing to compare with the adventures I'm having now -- dissolving polarities.

I don't know, perhaps the poles still exist and I am only making it so that I am free to express any finite or infinite point between the two ends of the pole.

Good thread.

Gnosis

Gnosis5 01-14-2010 06:03 AM

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So it's not about fighting, or struggling or vanquishing tyranny - this only heightens the dualism...it's about sharing consciousness between all. Knowing and feeling we are all one, and all are responsible creators of the whole reality. This will be done from the heart, with love and knowledge and maybe then the universe will turn on a dime.
I have incorporated clearing sessions as part of my weekly routine for over a year and I use a technique or process that unfixes me from polarities as they come up in my sessions. I don't go hunting for them, only deal with the ones that are in current dramatization. There are plenty, large and small, some I would never have consciously thought of as polarities.

I have recently been told by three different respected psychics that I am very spiritually grounded, and it is because of all the work I have been doing, clearing polarities.

Even though clearing polarities is a commitment to a routine and requires some discipline (working with someone helps) it is a more truthful way to tame the "enemy".

I can give a lot of personal examples, but enough others have come before me and said it all before and I'm just following the footsteps (or breadcrumbs) of some highly respected beings in our history.

After one has resolved their own duality that is being mirrored to them they can then resolve the opposing end of the duality for the other person too. No loss of life or limb for anyone and balance and harmony restored.

We live in stimulating times which is a great opportunity to clear: more grist (i.e. dualities) for the mill.

Greetings 01-14-2010 07:02 AM

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Total Respect.



I voice often that we need unification. Communication is the stage that we're in yes?

Kulapops 01-14-2010 11:04 AM

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Hi Gnosis and Greetings...

Thanks for your words.

Wow... Gnosis... it seems your already a ways down the path ahead of me. (But we're all one, so I'm happy for me (you) :original: ). I did think that this is surely already going on at Avalon... but it's something that's been brewing in me over a year, just by not resonating with all the doom and gloom anymore.

Yes it's real (then again it only might be, the quantum world can change things fast! ... look at the Swine Flu outcome). But intuitively I was thinking the answer lies else where.

This clearing work that you do I think will be extremely valuable to those of us who are not already working in this way (it's why I started the thread, surely that's as much a preparation for what's to come as buying a water filter etc...- if not , more so)

I will check out the Jim Self info... if you have any more interesting info, please post here.

I can also recommend the book 'Lifting the veil of Duality' by Andreas Moritz.

Best wishes,

K

rhythm 01-14-2010 11:15 AM

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Exelent info

koola

happy your still here with us

love to all

all to love ...

Kulapops 01-14-2010 11:18 AM

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hi Gnosis...

I've just started reading Jim Self's archived articles.

Brilliant !! That's exactly what I've been feeling.

Ah... I'm not nuts...

Well... not much, :wink2:

K

lindabaker 01-14-2010 12:24 PM

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The tai chi symbol, as presented in two dimensions, is just a flat thing. If you make it into 3rd, 4th, and 5th dimension, the black and white areas become tubes, or wormholes. The smaller ones are jumping off places within the other. So, if you are in the black curved section, there is a white escape route. Anybody with me on this one? Linda

Kulapops 01-14-2010 12:30 PM

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Hi Linda,

My understanding in 2d is that the black dot is yin, and is a part (belongs to) of the large black mass. Same is true for yang or the white. So, sure, if you make this into 3d, you could say that there is a wormhole which connects the two.

In tai-chi they say that at it's fullest extent, yang becomes yin, because there is no where else for it to go. (If you move all your weight forward onto one leg, it gradually gets stronger, more yang... and then finally gets weaker (yin becomes stronger) as you can go no further forward)

I like the 3d idea. why not? the 2d symbol is just a way of representing a very complex truth.

K

Gnosis5 01-14-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kulapops (Post 222352)
Hi Gnosis and Greetings...

Thanks for your words.

Wow... Gnosis... it seems your already a ways down the path ahead of me. (But we're all one, so I'm happy for me (you) :original: ). I did think that this is surely already going on at Avalon... but it's something that's been brewing in me over a year, just by not resonating with all the doom and gloom anymore.

Yes it's real (then again it only might be, the quantum world can change things fast! ... look at the Swine Flu outcome). But intuitively I was thinking the answer lies else where.

This clearing work that you do I think will be extremely valuable to those of us who are not already working in this way (it's why I started the thread, surely that's as much a preparation for what's to come as buying a water filter etc...- if not , more so)

I will check out the Jim Self info... if you have any more interesting info, please post here.

I can also recommend the book 'Lifting the veil of Duality' by Andreas Moritz.

Best wishes,

K



Hi, Kula and thanks for the reference.

Yes, every time someones goes towards permanently waking up it reverberates out. My clearing guide is convinced that the world is lightening up as a result of some of the people he has cleared. Some beings have more responsibility for this scenario than others depending on what they did to contribute to it and hold it in. The karmic people in my life are feeling the results of my clearing work. For example, my mother-in-law is no longer hating me and all I did was clear something out of her that related to my own incident.

It seems that in my case because of the psychic weight I carry with me my clearing work will take longer, but I can already feel getting lighter and less likely to want to express ego and to contemplate harm to myself and others. Coordinating with that I find that I am much greater than I ever thought I was, and that I can do great things even if they cannot be spoken or acknowledged, and they definitely do not feed my ego.

I can better understand why Jesus Christ could make such claims about himself and others might have thought he was an egomaniac, but he really was making his personal claims from an ego-less state. I understand him better now.

I realize further and better the truth in what Jesus said when he said we could do even greater things than he. We can and we will and I might rightly or wrongly add, WE MUST.

blessings,
gnosis

mudra 01-14-2010 06:30 PM

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Thank you for this wisdom filled thread Kula :)

Those wise ones who see that the consciousness within themselves is the same consciousness within all conscious beings, attain eternal peace.

-Katha Upanishad


" In the presence of Love, patterns of beauty, perfection, harmony and efficiency manifest spontaneously.

Love is the ultimate force in the Universe; it holds every galaxy, star and planet in its place.

This energy is the magnetic power of Love, which pervades the Universe in the form of Universal Life Force

Anything that is 'nt seen , felt and integrated in the Heart will be complex enough to open the realm of dichotomies , strugle and pain ... the hard way .

No matter how long you may keep trying, struggling, striving, wanting, and seeking, you will one day come to the One Way that is easy and sure. You have the right to walk in the hard way as long as you choose; but when you are tired of wasting time, when you have fallen and bruised yourself to the point of giving up, when you have proven that man is a 'broken reed' and not worthy to be depended upon, when you have satisfied yourself as to your own weakness, and when you are convinced that there is no way out, then you will find the way in, and you will find it to be an easy way, filled with love and peace- the secret place where wisdom, courage, health and strength abound. Then you will begin to live.

The long way of the outer mind that leads to destruction is based upon the struggling and striving of the outer self in an effort to attain, climb and gain, but in the end the outer self must be convinced that it cannot lift itself.

The short way of the Master-Self leads to life eternal, and that quickly.

The inner urge is ALWAYS vibrating to the force of love, thinking not of itself but giving every consideration to the radiation of light, love and life in a lasting service to mankind. The outer idea vibrates to WHAT IT THINKS. The inner urge vibrates to WHAT IT KNOWS. The outer idea is concerned about itself or those who are of family ties or selfish choice, as it is also concerned about things, and ways and means. The inner urge gives no thought to persons, places or things, and gives no heed to ways and means, for it knows that all that is necessary is provided already, and to it one person is as worthy as another, being no respecter of persons because it makes the ever-present moment supreme in radiation.

"When the heart is healthy and fully alive, it is the most natural place to be, but when it has been forgotten and abandoned, certain difficulties will accumulate around the prospect of re-entry. The most critical issue is that the heart carries an imprint of your true character and the love that you are. That is its only recognition of you. Therefore, when you attempt to enter with false identities, spurious agendas, impure thoughts, or excess baggage of any kind, you may not present a workable entry key. All illusion, pretense, and judgment must be shed at the portal. Is this not also how you must enter the Kingdom of Heaven ... as a little child."

THE TRUTH OF LOVE IS THE SOURCE OF BEING NOW AND ALWAYS "

more to read on the Adamantine particles thread.

Love Always
mudra

Gnosis5 01-14-2010 06:59 PM

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Blessings Mudra,

As always, some tears you extract from me.

I still feel like the Tin Man who needed a heart and I think now I see why: aeons ago my friends and I were convinced that another powerful being would steal our core-heart energies so we gave the best of ourselves to one being to hold for us as a chalice. As long as we stayed connected with that being with the pink rose (or pink crystal?) heart chalice we knew we had done well. He had a unique light emanation that we would always follow down to this present lifetime.

The powerful being was able to convince me to give him my love and this week we had a final playoff and he is now clean and aware of his connection to Source, and I am now building the trust in myself to be the keeper of my own heart.

I know to some that sounds quite "romantic" but we represented an aspect of Source that was exploring conditions of love from this viewpoint, and my friends and I obliged by writing scripts and acting out our aesthetic passion plays.

blessings,
Gnosis




mudra 01-14-2010 07:15 PM

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http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs45/f/20..._sStranger.jpg

Love for You friends :wub2:
mudra

Gnosis5 01-14-2010 07:22 PM

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From Mudra:
"No matter how long you may keep trying, struggling, striving, wanting, and seeking, you will one day come to the One Way that is easy and sure. You have the right to walk in the hard way as long as you choose; but when you are tired of wasting time, when you have fallen and bruised yourself to the point of giving up, when you have proven that man is a 'broken reed' and not worthy to be depended upon, when you have satisfied yourself as to your own weakness, and when you are convinced that there is no way out, then you will find the way in, and you will find it to be an easy way, filled with love and peace- the secret place where wisdom, courage, health and strength abound. Then you will begin to live."

Yes, that rings true in my case. My first clearing guide fit in with my low self-worth and did exactly what I felt I deserved to experience and was very punishing and cruel and then rejected me but not before (with their help, ironically) I expunged myself of the need for this to happen again. I purposely asked for and received the "hard way".

The way now is quite easy, more balanced, and most days are an appreciation of getting further out of the muck and mire and closer to the absolutes of unconditional love, closer to "me" without compulsive additives.

Kula, this dovetails with your topic of resolving dualities. I am not as strong on the theory of resolving polarities/dualities as I am in the practice of it.

My aim is to see a world where even the cursed are noble and blessed.

Gnosis

Gnosis5 01-14-2010 08:01 PM

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Kulapops 01-14-2010 08:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnosis5 (Post 222566)
Kula, this dovetails with your topic of resolving dualities. I am not as strong on the theory of resolving polarities/dualities as I am in the practice of it.

My aim is to see a world where even the cursed are noble and blessed.

Gnosis

Hi Gnosis, thanks for your energy and light you have shone on this thread. I agree with your thoughts.

Perhaps this is a good place for people to post information about resolving duality? It would be great to have more information like this in one place, as a beacon of light and hope... and as an alternative preparation to the standard 'physical reality' preps. This thread has been worthwhile for me alone in discovering the Jim Self archive that you posted.

Mudra... as always for me, your light dances down a path I understand, and know to be true. I love to take my own light down that same path, the path of unity and of blessed love. Thanks for leading the way by your example.

mudra 01-14-2010 09:37 PM

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http://www.art-reflections.net/image...y_scene_bg.jpg

Kula and Gnosis,

My Light is your Light .
I believe you are well on your way on the blessed path of uni-ver-soul .
Keep the thread alive with the gems of the Heart.

Love for You
mudra

Gnosis5 01-14-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kulapops (Post 222607)
Hi Gnosis, thanks for your energy and light you have shone on this thread. I agree with your thoughts.

Perhaps this is a good place for people to post information about resolving duality? It would be great to have more information like this in one place, as a beacon of light and hope... and as an alternative preparation to the standard 'physical reality' preps. This thread has been worthwhile for me alone in discovering the Jim Self archive that you posted.

Mudra... as always for me, your light dances down a path I understand, and know to be true. I love to take my own light down that same path, the path of unity and of blessed love. Thanks for leading the way by your example.


Hello Kulapops,

Yes, my mind too. We can view it technically, romantically, ecstatically, scientifically, practically, meditatively, magically...

By example, one of the polarities that took some effort to collapse was the polarity of black and white. It developed all sorts of permutations. When I did collapse it (the fixedness of it at least) I found that I no longer hated the color gray. I was now interested also in the color gray. For an artist that might be a significant ability regained.

One could very rightly ask why didn't I spot that before and simply decide not to hate the color gray. The answer is that I could have if I had even known that I was dramatizing a simple duality. Truth is, I had some very "logical" reasons as an artist why the color gray was not on my palette. I was right, gray was wrong and that was that.

If I had thought for one moment, "gee, something must be wrong with my thinking because I have such a strong aversion to gray", then perhaps I would have worked it out sooner. Until I went and looked at the matter from a superconscious state (overriding the subconscious mechanism) I was barely consciously aware of my fixity about black and white and hardly anything in-between.

Fixed dualities create inner turmoil and discomfort to one degree or another.

I may be stepping out on a limb but I am starting to see that dualities can almost always be resolved from a superconscious state. That is the subject for another post.




greybeard 01-15-2010 12:09 AM

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Duality is the way we perceive life, however it is not the way that that enlightened sages see and experience the world. They see and experience Oneness

One way of looking at it is that H2O is water.
If we start at a high temperature steam is created,
On a descending scale of temperature steam become less hot and water becomes present.
Further down the scale liquid becomes ice.
It is still H2O but at each stage there has been change of quality.

Similarly one could start with LOVE as expressed by the Divine
further along the scale human unconditional love (for all)
then love for an other.
Continuing on, eventually love is not present.
Seen in this way Love and hate are not opposites, just lot of love or absence of love.

Light has presence -- darkness is just the absence of light. You can shine light but darkness has no subtance.

Electricity is either present in a wire or not. There is no such reality as off-ness.

The ego depends on duality and causality, a this causing a that. (duality)

Nothing is causing anything to happen. Everything is evolving into its own potential at every moment, God is ever present in the on going act of creation which is on going evolution.

As one is part of the Totality one effects the end result but does not cause it.
The higher/powerful the spiritual vibration the more positive the outcome

I can make a statement that will be comfortable to some, not so to some, definitely not so to others.
I am responsible for the statement but not responsible for the reaction which is personal to the reactee. The reactee is responsible for their reaction.

If it was within my power I would make everyone happy and healthy, I cant.

My responsibility as I see it is to the best I can to raise my own spiritual vibration thus contributing to the raising of consciousness of the totality.
Its not what one does but what one is that makes the difference.
Because Gandhi was a high vibration soul he achieved an amazing amount through non-violence.

Can I suggest that anyone who is really interested in Non-duality gets the book on it by Dr David Hawkins "Discovery of the presence of God/ Devotional Nonduality"

http://www.veritaspub.com/

Chris

Kulapops 01-15-2010 12:15 AM

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That's great Greybeard, thank you for your wisdom.

I am convinced that this is where our true 'battle' lies over the next two years. Not with illumiati, occult, satanists and fema camps and swine flu, but the 'front-line' will really become our individual relationship with ourselves, and resolving our own dualities, our perception of external duality and with the love (this is surely the definition of unity, no?) of which you speak.

Exciting times indeed.

K

greybeard 01-15-2010 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kulapops (Post 222729)
That's great Greybeard, thank you for your wisdom.

I am convinced that this is where our true 'battle' lies over the next two years. Not with illumiati, occult, satanists and fema camps and swine flu, but the 'front-line' will really become our individual relationship with ourselves, and resolving our own dualities, our perception of external duality and with the love (this is surely the definition of unity, no?) of which you speak.

Exciting times indeed.

K

Yes Kulapops

Like you I see all the things you have mentioned as a distraction.
We individually change, the world changes.
Our perception changes to nonduality, no enemy is possible and there are no exceptions to this rule. There is no they and us!!!


The definition of madness is doing the same thing and expecting different results.

Throughout history we have fought this, made an enemy of that, sometimes for very noble reasons. Basically none of it (resistance --fighting) has worked.
Hate the enemy is still hate, and carries a certain negative loveless energy, just creates more of the same.

To be clear though, unconditional love is not gullible or naive, the other is loved but the actions are not condoned.
There is an awareness of what is appropriate, what is right action will follow automatically as is necessary.

At higher levels of consciousness hate is just not possible.
Jesus on the cross is a classic example. "God forgive them for they know not what they do" In other words they were spiritually asleep, unaware of Oneness.

If mass consciousness is raised enough then war dissolves and we are left with peace which is always present.
It really is very simple the old ways have not worked and cant work. Unless the spiritual environment is raised it will be more of the same. The human race has been at war for 95% of its history, and we think we are civilized. Ha Ha!!! We just got cleverer at killing people.


Now I believe we have a real chance of truly evolving. There is new energy coming into the solar system, that is proven.
We do our best to let go of our personal negativity, belief systems programing etc and leave the rest to our Creator.
Exciting times indeed.
Chris

Gnosis5 01-15-2010 01:08 AM

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Hello Greybeard,

I read your post and some of it I did grasp and some of it did not quite grasp on first read. Will come back to it a bit later.

What I am experiencing is a sense of equanimity which is becoming more often than not in spite of my tendency to want to be passionate.

How did you arrive experientially at this level of understanding?

greybeard 01-15-2010 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Gnosis5 (Post 222766)
Hello Greybeard,

I read your post and some of it I did grasp and some of it did not quite grasp on first read. Will come back to it a bit later.

What I am experiencing is a sense of equanimity which is becoming more often than not in spite of my tendency to want to be passionate.

How did you arrive experientially at this level of understanding?

Hi Gnosis
Like you my passion has decreased, there neither attraction or aversion. If something happens and appropriate response is passion then thats what happens, if nothing of a passionate nature occurs thats ok too. You can apply that to virtually anything. Its like living life fully in the moment, no matter what.

My understanding of the moment came mainly second hand at first through the books cds, retreats etc. The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle was a big break through, up till then it was all Indian Sages, very valuable.
My main source now is Dr David Hawkins.

Personal "proof" came through meditation which delivered some shattering experiences which I had not expected or looked for. One left me blissed out for two days. Never felt so loved in all my life. Just very fortunate.
We are all equal though. Put no head above your own.

Chris

Gnosis5 01-15-2010 01:44 AM

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Is it possible to live in all the moments at once? Sometimes it feels like it. When I was a mom with a house and a career it was called multi-tasking.

Gnosis5 01-15-2010 01:49 AM

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Oh, no that's okay, you can go first and be above me and tell me all about it, no problemo :naughty:

Never had much patience for meditation but I aim to put myself into some Transcendental Meditation when I finish this stage of self-development. The thousands and thousands of years of meditation have smoothed the edges off.

Nevertheless have heard some neato experiences from some of my more meditative friends, er, acquaintances.

Do you think you might be building on other recent lifetimes you spent meditating?

Gnosis5 01-15-2010 01:57 AM

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I am on the fringe circle of some self-enlightened beings who have developed their own approach to resolving dualities:

The Gunas Technique

"The gunas is an ancient technique for merging polarities which has come down to modern times through yoga."


greybeard 01-15-2010 08:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnosis5 (Post 222796)
I am on the fringe circle of some self-enlightened beings who have developed their own approach to resolving dualities:

The Gunas Technique

"The gunas is an ancient technique for merging polarities which has come down to modern times through yoga."


Good morning Gnosis5
To my understanding the Gunas are a process, perception and attitude to life change as each guna is moved through.
Enlightenment/ self realization can occur without being aware of Gunas and without using any particular technique. Spiritual language can be misleading. Self-realization dosent mean you have done it yourself rather that the Self has been realized.
You cant make it happen.
All we can do is remove, to the best of our ability, that which obstructs the reality that we are one with God. The rest is up to the grace of God.
Be kind to all life including your own, is enough. technique is not necessary.

Cant remember any past lives but they probably play a part in the way this life starts. Past karma to be resolved.

Regards Chris

mudra 01-15-2010 12:53 PM

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Hello friends,

I would like to bring here a passage from an interview of Eckhart Tolle on polarities.

Enjoy :)

The entire phenomenal universe exists because of the tension between the opposites. Hot and cold, growth and decay, gain and loss, success and failure, the polarities that are part of existence, and of course part of every relationship.

KE: Then it’s correct to say, we can never get rid of the polarities?

ET: We cannot get rid of polarities on the level of form. However, you can transcend the polarities through surrender. You are then in touch with a deeper place within yourself where, as it were, the polarities no longer exist. They continue to exist on the outer level. However, even there, something changes in the way in which the polarities manifest in your life when you are in a state of acceptance or surrender. The polarities manifest in a more benign and gentle way.

The more unconscious you are, the more you are identified with form. The essence of unconsciousness is this: identification with form, whether it is an external form (a situation, place, event or experience), a thought form or an emotion. The more attached to form, the more unsurrendered you are, and the more extreme, violent or harsh your experience of the polarities becomes. There are people on this planet who live virtually in hell and on the same planet there are others who live a relatively peaceful life. The ones who are at peace inside will still experience the polarities, but in a much more benign way, not the extreme way in which many humans still experience them. So, the way in which the polarities are experienced does change. The polarities themselves cannot be removed, but one could say, the whole universe becomes somewhat more benevolent. It’s no longer so threatening. The world is no longer perceived as hostile, which is how the ego perceives it.

KE: If awakening or living a life in an awakened state does not change the natural order of things, duality, the tension between the opposites, what does living a life in the awakened state do? Does it affect the world, or only one’s subjective experience of the world?

ET: When you live in surrender, something comes through you into the world of duality that is not of this world.

KE: Does that actually change the outer world?

ET: Internal and external are ultimately one. When you no longer perceive the world as hostile, there is no more fear, and when there is no more fear, you think, speak and act differently. Love and compassion arise, and they affect the world. Even if you find yourself in a conflict situation, there is an outflow of peace into the polarities. So then, something does change. There are some teachers or teachings that say, nothing changes. That is not the case. Something very important does change. That which is beyond form shines through the form, the eternal shines through the form into this world of form.

KE: Is it right to say that it is your lack of "reaction against," your acceptance of the opposites of this world, that brings about changes in the way the opposites manifest?

ET: Yes. The opposites continue to happen, but they are not fueled by you anymore. What you said is a very important point: the "lack of reaction" means that the polarities are not fueled. This means, you often experience a collapse of the polarities, such as in conflict situations. No person, no situation is made into an "enemy."

KE: So, the opposites, instead of becoming strengthened, become weakened. And perhaps this is how they begin to dissolve.

ET: That’s right. Living in that way is the beginning of the end of the world.

Read full interview here :
http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Tolle3.html

Love Always
mudra

greybeard 01-15-2010 01:59 PM

Re: Resolve your dualities as preparation for 2012
 
Thanks Mudra I read the Eckhart / Kim article in full from the link you posted.

I have found that unconditional love is not a personal even, love just flows.

Theres a song with these words " If you cant be with the one you love--love the one your with"
Who ever is in front of you at this very moment , give them your full attention, be very present and they will know they are respected honored and therefore loved.


Chris

Gnosis5 01-15-2010 04:49 PM

Re: Resolve your dualities as preparation for 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greybeard (Post 222893)
Good morning Gnosis5
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All we can do is remove, to the best of our ability, that which obstructs the reality that we are one with God. The rest is up to the grace of God.
Be kind to all life including your own, is enough. technique is not necessary.

Regards Chris

Good morning, Chris!

You and I are dining in the same restaurant making different selections off the menu. Technique was and is my choice and did and is helping me remove obstruction to the reality that I am one with Source/God. As far as the rest being up to the grace of God, well since I am Source/God I guess whatever technique or process I discover that works is by my own grace.

It is more natural for me to be kind to all life and I thank the techniques I employed upon myself. Yes, I could have taken a different route. Each being has their own preferences.

In this "buffet" you chose one item for your body/self to process and I chose another. My role is to present a menu of choice.

"Technique" has worked for me to the extent that yesterday I processed out some remaining compulsive attachments and went out the top of this universe and visited a universe above this one. An ability re-gained, and retained my equanimity and interest during the whole journey. Also decided to check out the "Universe Below". Saw that it was occupied.

Thus, no polarities/dualities = no compulsive attachments = more freedoms.

I have not obtained this absolute yet, because I did have an "attachment" in the universe above, although once I arrived there it no longer seemed important to me. I went as far as my lack of compulsive attachments allowed me to go. I would not discount that I might even lose compulsive attachments surrounding "God", or "Source".

Yes, techniques can be viewed as a via similarly to how magic paraphenalia is a via or boost for pure intention ("where two or more are gathered together..."). I even had to process out any compulsive interest I had in my particular technique. My sessions ran more cleanly after that.

Intention is senior to technique, but not always a practical entry point for the mixed lot we have here on earth. Thus, I am not going to herd people into technique, or tell anyone what they need or do not need, and at the same time I am not going to shoo people away either.

May we all be changed in the twinkling of an eye :original:

love,
Gnosis

Majorion 01-15-2010 04:54 PM

Re: Resolve your dualities as preparation for 2012
 
Good information, thanks kulapops.

Kulapops 01-15-2010 04:55 PM

Re: Resolve your dualities as preparation for 2012
 
Thanks Mudra, Gnosis and Greybeard for your great contributions.

It was Crosby Stills and Nash, who sang that Greybeard ! (or they copied the lyric from someone before perhaps?)

Love that song. It's very perceptive.

K

folotheflo 01-15-2010 05:22 PM

Re: Resolve your dualities as preparation for 2012
 
brilliant post, awesome!

my understanding of duallity/polarity

All opposites are part of the same spectrum, posotive-negative, good-bad, love-hate.
At what point does hot become cold?
You ask an eskimo and he'll tell a different answer to the texan man.
Hot and cold are just the extreme opposites of the same spectrum, temperature.
Good and evil only exists in the minds of men ( and women and other possible life forms ).
There is no good or bad, or love or hate, these are just ways to explain duality.
Negative is not bad
life will try every thing, if it works, it will indulge
'Love' is like watering a plant that needs water, you want it to GROW
'Hate' is like depriving a plant in need of water, you want it to DECAY

Gnosis5 01-15-2010 05:23 PM

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Kulapops, I am very appreciative of you for opening up a topic for communication that I had been keeping suppressed, not allowing myself full expression. The co-contribution to this thought is helping me refine my focus.

As you may have noticed I tend to contribute to where the "rubber-meets-the-road". Very practical, very grounded.

When I read "Autobiography of a Yogi" I understood for the first time that there actually was an application behind all the talk and theory and nudges and urgings ons, etc., etc. Being someone who was also very much in my mind/ego that was a good entry point for me.

That was before I knew about Zen koans, but still love my mind a bit too much to take that drastic killing-the-mind route :nono:

Ironically, the more I follow my preference to dispel dualities the more I am coming to arrive at fuller understandings of beings such as Mudra and Tolle and other WayShowers.

Source is looking at a very rich tapestry indeed.

Gnosis5 01-15-2010 05:58 PM

Re: Resolve your dualities as preparation for 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by folotheflo (Post 223135)
brilliant post, awesome!

my understanding of duallity/polarity

All opposites are part of the same spectrum, posotive-negative, good-bad, love-hate.
At what point does hot become cold?
You ask an eskimo and he'll tell a different answer to the texan man.
Hot and cold are just the extreme opposites of the same spectrum, temperature.
Good and evil only exists in the minds of men ( and women and other possible life forms ).
There is no good or bad, or love or hate, these are just ways to explain duality.
Negative is not bad
life will try every thing, if it works, it will indulge
'Love' is like watering a plant that needs water, you want it to GROW
'Hate' is like depriving a plant in need of water, you want it to DECAY


Yes, and it is only the compulsiveness or fixedness upon endsides of a duality or points within a duality that are being cleared out of me, allowing for FULL FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. It is only then that I find myself operating from the viewpoint that nothing is good or bad.

However, I would prefer balance between the stream of love, and theory and science of resolving dualities and practical ways and means to achieve this ability: Lots of forums where we philosopher kingsand avatars can rub heads over finer points of understanding. Fewer forums where sages are actually clearing themselves (i.e., beyond their intellectual comprehension) and reporting about it, presenting personal experiential data/results from applied processes.

In my case, intellectual comprehension alone can be a ruse for keeping myself from actually going into my subconscious and digging up my "stuff" that fixes me into my dualities.

Thankfully, I did not have to have more than a rudimentary understanding of the process I am employing to receive the full benefits of it, i.e., quelling compulsive dualities.

Gnosis5 01-15-2010 06:11 PM

Re: Resolve your dualities as preparation for 2012
 
IS ANYONE USING EFT TAPPING TO RELEASE DUALITIES?

EFT, not my preference, but might appeal to people who are more kinetic. I have used it in emergency situations and so I know it does work for a temporary relief. Choose a Way that you know you will enjoy continuing in and that offers the support you need. Unless one has a very stable epiphany (they tend to not lead to stable gains), such as a near death experience, count on a Way becoming part of your life routine.


From this weblink: http://www.eft-austin.com/eft%20articles/transformconflict/index.html

"If you continue tapping you will begin to uncover your own internal dualities and conflicts. As you use EFT to transform these you will become more integrated and calm inside. You will be able to come to an acceptance that will lead to inner peace without denial of the outer circumstance. This puts you in a much stronger position to resolve a conflict with another person. It is likely you will see options you couldn’t see before and the conflict will not seem as bothersome to you as it once did. It will be much easier to communicate with clarity and respect, and the other person will feel your positive intentions and respond accordingly."


greybeard 01-15-2010 07:03 PM

Re: Resolve your dualities as preparation for 2012
 
Hi Gnosis5
love your menu.
Yes technique is helpful then even that drops away.
Tapping is helpful especially in moments of "The dark night of the soul"
AA 12 step program helped me immensely, then spending time in the presence of enlightened sages. Their auric field interacts with the students and helps clear karmic debt.
However in my case the ego is still work in progress. I have to be ever vigilant.
No gain without pain :mfr_lol:

Chris

mudra 01-15-2010 09:16 PM

Re: Resolve your dualities as preparation for 2012
 
The Inner

Question: Last night You said that by changing the outer, the inner remains unchanged, untransformed. But is it not true that the right food, right labor, right sleep, right actions and behaviors are also important factors for inner transformation? Isn't it a mistake to ignore the outer completely?


Osho: The outer cannot change the inner, but the outer can help, or it can hinder. The outer can create a situation in which the inner can explode more easily.

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Remember this: that the inner is important, significant. The outer is helpful, it is good, but you must not become focused on it. It must not become so important that the inner is forgotten. The inner must remain the inner and the central, and the outer, if possible, should be changed just as a help.

Don't ignore it completely. There is no need to ignore it, because really the outer is also part of the inner. It is not something opposite to it, it is not something contrary to it, it is not something imposed upon you -- it is you. But the inner is the central, and the outer is the periphery. So give as much importance as a periphery needs, as a circumference needs, as a boundary needs -- but the boundary is not the house. So take care of it, but don't become mad after it.

Our mind is always trying to find escapes. If you can become involved with food, with sex, with clothes, with the body, your mind will be at ease, because now you are not going towards the inner. Now there is no need to change the mind. Now there is no need to destroy the mind, to go beyond the mind. With the change of food, the same mind can exist. You may eat this or that -- the same mind can exist. Only when you move inwards... the more inside you reach, the more this mind which you have has to cease. The inward path is the path towards no-mind.

The mind becomes afraid. It will try to find some escape-- something to do with the outer. Then the mind can exist as it is. Whatsoever you do makes no difference. It is irrelevant what you do -- this mind can exist, and this mind can find ways for how to remain the same. And sometimes, when you struggle with the natural outlet, your mind will find some perverted outlets which are more dangerous. Rather than being a help, they will become hindrances.

This is what everyone is doing. If one outlet is blocked, then a perversion is bound to happen. And you don't know the ways of the mind-- they are very cunning and subtle.

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Someone is smoking too much and he wants to stop it. But smoking in itself is not a problem; the problem is something else. You can stop smoking, but the problem will remain, and it will have to come out in something else. When do you smoke? When you are anxious, nervous, you start smoking, and smoking helps you. You feel more confident, you feel more relaxed.

Just by stopping the smoking, your nervousness is not going to change. You will feel nervous, you will feel anxious; the anxiety will come. Then you will do something else. And you can find something which is a beautiful substitute; it looks so different. You can do anything. You can just use a mantra instead of smoking, and whenever you feel nervous you can say "Ram Ram Ram":-- anything continuously.
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The problem has not changed; only you have changed the trick. Previously you were doing it with smoke; now you are doing it with a word.
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You can do anything on the surface, but unless deeper roots are changed, nothing happens. So with the outer remember this: be aware of it, and move from the surface towards the roots and find the root -- why are you nervous?

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Once you come to know the roots, once the roots are exposed.... Remember this law: the roots can exist only in darkness -- not only the roots of trees, but the roots of anything. They can exist only in darkness. Once they are brought to light, they die.

So move with your periphery; dig deep and go to the roots, and bring the roots to consciousness, to light. Once you have come to the root, it simply disappears. You have not to do anything about it. You have to do something only because you don't know what the problem is. A problem rightly understood disappears.

From Osho The Book of Secrets

Love Always
mudra


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