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timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 06:51 AM

233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
NBC, FOX ,CNN not covering it ,how is that possible.
Answer it's an alien race replaceing us and they control the media.

The geneside of the human race has begun

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/01...raine_882.html

with in a few weeks all that we know is going to change

The slaughter and the harvest has begun.

If your not awake yet you will because 2010 mass awakening is revering to millions wakeing up at 4 am and taken to death camps.

3600 FEMA camps 107,200 FEMA rail cars , millions of coffins made by polyguard plastics.

And here is your proof, it's happening and western news is not covering it.

Audio:Nov 24 Dec2 Dec17 Dec30 twitter *************************
Live feed of underlying pandemic map data here
Commentary
Ukraine Fatalities Jump to 882 - D225A/N/G in Kyiv
Recombinomics Commentary 13:20
January 9, 2010

3,987,959 Influenza/ARI

233.029 Hospitalized

882 Dead

The above numbers represent the latest update from the Ukraine Ministry of health.* The fatalities in the past 3 days increased by 55, a slight decrease below the death per hour pace set last week.* The outbreaks continue to be focuses in central and eastern Ukraine.* Most areas in western Ukraine have fallen below the epidemic threshold.

However, the movement to the east paralleled the movement of receptor binding domain changes.* HA sequences released by Mill Hill at GISAID identified new complexities at position 225.* Samples from Kyiv and Chernihiv (see map) had mixed signals at positions 1 and 2 of codon 225, providing coding for D225G and D225N in the Chenihiv sequences and three changes (D225G, D225N, and D225A) in the Kyiv sequence.

The multiple changes at the same codon in a single patient are a signal of immunological escape, which may cause serious problems in subsequent waves.* The case fatality rate for recently sequenced isolates with D225G and/or D225N is well above 50%.* In Ukraine, it appears to be at 100%.* Although D225A is unique to Kyiv, the other two changes have been cited in fatal cases in Russia.

Although it remains unclear if the high death toll is linked to collection of samples from organs of dead or dying patients, or signals the transmission of a cluster of changes linked to codon 225, resulting in a more dangerous or fatal clinical course.

Collection of sequential samples from the severe cases Ukraine and Russia would be useful.* Although most of the changes have been in lung, samples from trachea. and throat samples have also yielded the change.

Media Links
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Recombinomics Publications

Recombinomics Paper at Nature Precedings






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Humble Janitor 01-10-2010 07:10 AM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
I don't think there's a nice way to say this, but I'm going to say it anyway:

I think you are pushing an agenda of fear here and it's not doing anyone any favors.

timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 09:56 AM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
What I am doing is exosimg the truth , they shouldn't have murdered aall my realitives, they shouldn't have braggd about it they shouldn't have told me al that I know , if they would have left me and my family alone I would know nothing

Try debunking or discrediting this now, if you love your family Like I loved mine then take my information and put it up everywhere because it's all true all of it.

It's a secret society of aliens who can replace us and they already control mainstream news.

It's odvious or we would know about the quarter of a million dieing in the Ukraine right now.

If you have any value of your life and all that you love and your human then take my threads and expose them everywhere or quietly await your seat on gumderson steels railcars to take you to a deathcamp near you.

They shouldn't have killed all that I love they shouldn't have wiped out my bank accounts and they shouldn't have screwed me out of my life.

If your human spread this information all my threads put th up everywhere, because there is no way a quarter million lay dieing and not one magor news service is carrying it.

Everything I have written they bragged about openly and now they are doing it , 4 million have this virus I'm Ukraine in a few weeks if will be everywhere and if you took the swine flu vaccine you have been given a death sentance, yes I hope this scares you I hope this scares you into action and you realize before it's too late in order to preserve mankind you have o expose them or wait for some of your loved ones to get kidnapped and repalaced and then you then all ofyours will be screwed like they mercelously killed off all my realitives

what scares them the most is exposure.

It's us or them and they are well underway to getting rid of us.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor (Post 219583)
I don't think there's a nice way to say this, but I'm going to say it anyway:

I think you are pushing an agenda of fear here and it's not doing anyone any favors.


john-d 01-10-2010 01:33 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Ive been keeping an eye on the situation in the ukraine for about a month now . There is definately something not right about what is unfolding and its even more worrying that the mainstream media isnt covering it . I think the best thing to do though is not get caught up in the fear , but get informed on things that help and try to inform others . Ive stocked up on mms , vitamin d3 and c , garlic , boneset and colloidial silver and have been advising people to do the same ( although most people just roll their eyes at me) . Slightly frustrating :)

John

Olam 01-10-2010 01:37 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
This lady has been on the case since the very begining. Lots of info there, including official medical reports from top Ukraine meds.
http://ukraineplague.blogspot.com/

Myplanet2 01-10-2010 01:50 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
I sure would love to see this kind of garbage posted in unconfirmed news, or conspiracy research, or off topic, or start a new sub forum, "I'm so terrified my eyes are bleeding". :wall:

DOMINIC 777 01-10-2010 02:11 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
WELL DONE TIMETOTALTHEWORLD...I get really annoyed when someone posts REALITY and you get labeled a as A FEAR MERCHANT...reality is reality and we have to confront it ,i would like to add a bit more
we have
1.FLU VIRUS MUTATION TAKING PLACE IN UKRAINE
2.WATER ,FOOD MEDICINE POLLUTION..creating physical and mental illnesses SOFT KILL
3.HAARP..changes weather, can annhiliate any country and fries brains
4.Psedudo alien attack..PROGRAMME GENERATED LIFEFORMS LOOK LIKE ALIENS control and domination.over the EARTH.
5.aids and other illnesses
6.FINANCIAL /AND SOCIAL BREAKDOWN
7.MASS DISCLOSURE

Many people think by being or thinking positively everything will be Alright........happened in the second world war look what happened there to some people)....love compassion is all well and good when you look at REALITY.....first.

THE above is already happening and you cannot stop INSANITY...therefore all we can do is EDUCATE , ENLIGHTEN and give KNOWLEDGE TO PEOPLE TO WAKE THEM UP TO REALITY
Does not matter how positive we think,or loving we think...insanity ..neg people will still carry their agenda through...look at the weather now with a small burst in Norway...hit northern hemisphere
try and awaken people to realty before it is too late.
Therefore people who are AWAKE are keeping an eye on reality..
lol
dom



Quote:

Originally Posted by timetotelltheworld (Post 219580)
NBC, FOX ,CNN not covering it ,how is that possible.
Answer it's an alien race replaceing us and they control the media.

The geneside of the human race has begun

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/01...raine_882.html


burgundia 01-10-2010 02:20 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Suddenly they have stopped talking about the flu in Poland. I guess people stopped getting excited about that or...got the facts....nothing in the Polish news about Ukraine in regard to the health problems of its citizens. Maybe nothing extremely serious is happening there...

gibonos 01-10-2010 02:24 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Quote:

WELL DONE TIMETOTALTHEWORLD...I get really annoyed when someone posts REALITY and you get labeled a as A FEAR MERCHANT...reality is reality and we have to confront it ,i would like to add a bit more
we have
1.FLU VIRUS MUTATION TAKING PLACE IN UKRAINE
2.WATER ,FOOD MEDICINE POLLUTION..creating physical and mental illnesses SOFT KILL
3.HAARP..changes weather, can annhiliate any country and fries brains
4.Psedudo alien attack..PROGRAMME GENERATED LIFEFORMS LOOK LIKE ALIENS control and domination.over the EARTH.
5.aids and other illnesses
6.FINANCIAL /AND SOCIAL BREAKDOWN
7.MASS DISCLOSURE

Many people which include people on this forum think by being or thinking positively everything will be Alright........happened in the second world war look what happened there to some people)....love compassion is all well and good when you look at REALITY.....first.

THE above is already happening and you cannot stop INSANITY...therefore all we can do is EDUCATE , ENLIGHTEN and give KNOWLEDGE TO PEOPLE TO WAKE THEM UP TO REALITY
Does not matter how positive we think,or loving we think...insanity ..neg people will still carry their agenda through...look at the weather now with a small burst in Norway...hit northern hemisphere
therefore become a mod and help me to try and awaken people to realty before it is too late.
Therefore people who are AWAKE are keeping an eye on reality..
lol
dom
most of us here know the situation with flu and by posting new threads each day does not change anything.

The problem I have with this individual is his language, a lot of plural instead of singular form, he can speak for himself, that his in trouble, not me.

Tell me how this topic changes anything, are you prepared better or just make people angry?! That's not the way to go, this way you fell into ptw trap, one has to outsmart them, but don't waste precious energy for cr.p like that.
What concerns me is that so many people here go for his provocatory posts.

If he wanted to help he would post something more relevant and positive.
I could compare his writings to deagle: fear, fear, we're scr.wed, nothing you can do, better die now.

gibonos

DOMINIC 777 01-10-2010 02:31 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
That is where you are wrong GIBONOS..we can do a lot now....people have stopped looking at REALITY ...and by thinking if we stay pos everything will turn out fine....when INSANITY IS IN CONTROL THEY WILL FINISH THEIR AGENDA...so what we have to do is enlighten , educate and give knowledge to people who have not got a clue what is going on.....the negs want 500,000 people left on the earth ...what will happen to the 93% of the rest of the worlds population?people like you and i and our families.....and do not forget the skeptics and religious groups


Quote:

Originally Posted by gibonos (Post 219730)
most of us here know the situation with flu and by posting new threads each day does not change anything.

The problem I have with this individual is his language, a lot of plural instead of singular form, he can speak for himself, that his in trouble, not me.

Tell me how this topic changes anything, are you prepared better or just make people angry?! That's not the way to go, this way you fell into ptw trap, one has to outsmart them, but don't waste precious energy for cr.p like that.
What concerns me is that so many people here go for his provocatory posts.

If he wanted to help he would post something more relevant and positive.
I could compare his writings to deagle: fear, fear, we're scr.wed, nothing you can do, better die now.

gibonos


Myplanet2 01-10-2010 02:52 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DOMINIC 777 (Post 219720)
WELL DONE TIMETOTALTHEWORLD...I get really annoyed when someone posts REALITY and you get labeled a as A FEAR MERCHANT...reality is reality and we have to confront it ,i would like to add a bit more
we have
1.FLU VIRUS MUTATION TAKING PLACE IN UKRAINE
2.WATER ,FOOD MEDICINE POLLUTION..creating physical and mental illnesses SOFT KILL
3.HAARP..changes weather, can annhiliate any country and fries brains
4.Psedudo alien attack..PROGRAMME GENERATED LIFEFORMS LOOK LIKE ALIENS control and domination.over the EARTH.
5.aids and other illnesses
6.FINANCIAL /AND SOCIAL BREAKDOWN
7.MASS DISCLOSURE

Many people think by being or thinking positively everything will be Alright........happened in the second world war look what happened there to some people)....love compassion is all well and good when you look at REALITY.....first.

THE above is already happening and you cannot stop INSANITY...therefore all we can do is EDUCATE , ENLIGHTEN and give KNOWLEDGE TO PEOPLE TO WAKE THEM UP TO REALITY
Does not matter how positive we think,or loving we think...insanity ..neg people will still carry their agenda through...look at the weather now with a small burst in Norway...hit northern hemisphere
try and awaken people to realty before it is too late.
Therefore people who are AWAKE are keeping an eye on reality..
lol
dom

Perhaps it would help to find out what Reality actually is? I think it's pretty safe to say it's not something that can be posted on a forum.

People post their opinions, observations, conclusions, assumptions, speculations, fears, rumours, unfiltered disinfo, and you call it reality?

Tell me how you arrived at the "conclusion" that what was seen in Norway was connected to weather anomalies? What fried brains? What annihilated countries? Do you have evidence of a mutated flu in Ukraine? Is there even any evidence of an unusual number of deaths that are even flu related in the Ukraine?

Reality isn't what you've been TOLD it is.

lol
MP2

DOMINIC 777 01-10-2010 03:10 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
REALITY IS KNOWING THAT THE NEGS (INSANITY) who want to depopulate 93% of the worlds people suffer from EGO PRIDE VANITY , SELFISHNESS GREED , MALEVOLENCE ,HATE etc AND THEY WILL CARRY OUT THEIR agenda WITH SOPHISTICATED WEAPONS haarp...etc....haarp has the ability to change weather , create earthquakes ..many whistleblowers concur with these views, and it can also fry brains....Why have we got both project camelot and avalon? if everything is all sweetness and light, they are out there to educate....people have stopped looking at reality ...they have to confront reality headon and then EDUCATE , ENLIGHTEN ..use the knowledge to help people in darkness(ignorance)Look what happened to the poor Jewish people in the second world war......insanity conned them.
you cannot keep on saying be pos show love and everything will turn out fine......IT IS INSANITY ...disoredered reason we are combatting



Quote:

Originally Posted by Myplanet2 (Post 219738)
Perhaps it would help to find out what Reality actually is? I think it's pretty safe to say it's not something that can be posted on a forum.

People post their opinions, observations, conclusions, assumptions, speculations, fears, rumours, unfiltered disinfo, and you call it reality?

Tell me how you arrived at the "conclusion" that what was seen in Norway was connected to weather anomalies? What fried brains? What annihilated countries? Do you have evidence of a mutated flu in Ukraine? Is there even any evidence of an unusual number of deaths that are even flu related in the Ukraine?

Reality isn't what you've been TOLD it is.

lol
MP2


Myplanet2 01-10-2010 03:12 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DOMINIC 777 (Post 219745)
REALITY IS KNOWING THAT THE NEGS (INSANITY) who want to depopulate 93% of the worlds people suffer from EGO PRIDE VANITY , SELFISHNESS GREED , MALEVOLENCE ,HATE etc AND THEY WILL CARRY OUT THEIR agenda WITH SOPHISTICATED WEAPONS haarp...etc....haarp has the ability to change weather , create earthquakes etc...many whistleblowers concur this and it can also fry brains....Why have we got both project camelot and avalon if everything is all sweetness and light....people have stopped looking at reality ...they have to confront reality headon and then EDUCATE , ENLIGHTEN ..use the knowledge to help people in darkness(ignorance)Look what happened to the poor Jewish people in the second world war......insanity conned them

Well, thank you. You make my point so well, I don't need to say anymore. lol

DOMINIC 777 01-10-2010 03:18 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Myplanet2 (Post 219746)
Well, thank you. You make my point so well, I don't need to say anymore. lol

And how many people have you enlightened about the reality?...people are falling into a false sense of security by saying , be pos etc...they are not looking at the reality.....

gibonos 01-10-2010 03:44 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Quote:

That is where you are wrong GIBONOS..we can do a lot now....people have stopped looking at REALITY ...and by thinking if we stay pos everything will turn out fine....when INSANITY IS IN CONTROL THEY WILL FINISH THEIR AGENDA...so what we have to do is enlighten , educate and give knowledge to people who have not got a clue what is going on.....the negs want 500,000 people left on the earth ...what will happen to the 93% of the rest of the worlds population?people like you and i and our families.....and do not forget the skeptics and religious groups
What I mean by positive is posting something that showns they are losing with populace, not positive thinking, which can't do anything unless it's positive feeling, but can not feel positive where you have fear all around you.
You can not enlighten someone who does not want it, it's their choice and you have to respect it. You can respond if asked, otherwise the result might be opposite.
Force will not work, same with forced vaccinations, but if people act on fear they do stupid things.
This message (about flu) was out long time ago and will be found by those who chose to look for it.
BY knowing you take away their power (ptw) and you don't need anything else, maybe couple bullets and a gun will be usefull when the time is right :-).

Me personnaly I don't care what happens to sheeple, I care for those who listen.
I don't waste my energy on thinking about, or convincing, other people, they have their own free will and can do whatever they want, should anything happen I'm not gonna cry over them.

Knowledge is good, fear is not.

gibonos

burgundia 01-10-2010 03:52 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Most of us here have known Timmy for some time and we just accept him him and his views here...and we have stopped analyzing....:winksmiley02:

DOMINIC 777 01-10-2010 03:58 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
thanks
the more I confront the fear the more positive altruistic and loving I become because I know that Mankind will suffer , but at least I am telling people about the reality of that suffering..the trouble is you could have been a sheeple, would I give up on you..... no..
lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by gibonos (Post 219763)
What I mean by positive is posting something that showns they are losing with populace, not positive thinking, which can't do anything unless it's positive feeling, but can not feel positive where you have fear all around you.
You can not enlighten someone who does not want it, it's their choice and you have to respect it. You can respond if asked, otherwise the result might be opposite.
Force will not work, same with forced vaccinations, but if people act on fear they do stupid things.
This message (about flu) was out long time ago and will be found by those who chose to look for it.
BY knowing you take away their power (ptw) and you don't need anything else, maybe couple bullets and a gun will be usefull when the time is right :-).

Me personnaly I don't care what happens to sheeple, I care for those who listen.
I don't waste my energy on thinking about, or convincing, other people, they have their own free will and can do whatever they want, should anything happen I'm not gonna cry over them.

Knowledge is good, fear is not.

gibonos


gibonos 01-10-2010 04:05 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Quote:

thanks
the more I confront the fear the more positive altruistic and loving I become because I know that Mankind will suffer , but at least I am telling people about the reality of that suffering..the trouble is you could have been a sheeple, would I give up on you..... no..
lol
thank you,
but you have to remember that sheeple chose to be sheeple, that's their karma,
so let it be,
I want to do as much as I can to save myself, if a helpful hand comes to rescue that's fine, but I don't expect a saviour. Some christians are waitng little over 2000 years :-), and guess what THEY have to do it themself, not external force. Like gatorade says
Quote:

is it in you?
YES IT IS

gibonos

DOMINIC 777 01-10-2010 04:15 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
I agree totally with what you say, it is in us..and we have to do it almost alone......how many books have you read? , how many forums videos have you seen to enlighten you?..... how many whistleblowees have you listened to?there are many out there who need their eyes opened and then they awaken....by showing them REALITY it could be the trigger these sheeple need
lol


Quote:

Originally Posted by gibonos (Post 219774)
thank you,
but you have to remember that sheeple chose to be sheeple, that's their karma,
so let it be,
I want to do as much as I can to save myself, if a helpful hand comes to rescue that's fine, but I don't expect a saviour. Some christians are waitng little over 2000 years :-), and guess what THEY have to do it themself, not external force. Like gatorade says YES IT IS

gibonos


gibonos 01-10-2010 04:26 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
To be honest I didn't read a lot of books, don't listen to most of whistleblowers, cause their information can be valid only once. Once they go public, that's it! they no longer have the insight into secrets, unless it's disinfo (lindsey williams to name just one).

To make something clear I accept any information, don't rejct it.
The message has to go out and about, but the form has to be appropriate, no fear.
That's my only point, scaring the sh.t out of sheeple is not the way to open minds.

gibonos

AscendingStarseed 01-10-2010 04:34 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Ok Totellthetruth, if only 882 have died out of well over 200,000 hospitalizations that isn't a terribly high number of deaths proportionately. I really think it's important to have faith that humanity has allies and that the forces of good will succeed, if that weren't true this mutated plague would've spread much further by now. It had the whole month of October to spread to the rest of the world before they shut the borders down in the Ukraine, I had expected this thing to spread much further by now...thankfully it hasn't appeared to.

Vaccine shipments disappeared and all kinds of things have happened to slow down the spread of the virus, so that they finally called off the swine flu fake pandemic.

So get proactive instead of choosing fear which lowers your vibration and immune system. Chose to "visualize" the virus losing strength and dying off in the population, also boost your immune system with the right supplements to fight of any pathogens you might encounter.

Just as there are bad aliens out there causing problems, there are also good aliens who are much more powerful, far greater in number and who also have the power of God on their side....hmmmm, who do you think will win? I personally have all the faith in the world that we are well represented in Heaven and that our side will win.

So chill-out and quit :wall:

Fear only breeds more fear...and spreading it is bad for your karma

Myplanet2 01-10-2010 04:56 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Fear behaves just like a real virus. It's catching.

There is nothing wrong with letting people know what's going on that they should be aware of. But to jump to unwarranted conclusions which aren't supported in any way, and even embellishing them to make them scarier is simply spreading fear just like a virus.

It's like handing someone an anti viral agent laced with virus. It doesn't make any sense.

DOMINIC 777 01-10-2010 05:12 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Not if you confront it ...confronting fear makes you stronger altruistic and compassionate....HAARP will do a great deal of damage when they turn it full on, FLU PANDEMIC is in a stage of being mutated,water ,food medicine is poisoned and polluted ..and Programme Generated LiFE FORMS MANMADE e.t's are real..in prepration for pseudo alien invasion to cause FEAR STATE SO PEOPLE WILL ACCEPT control and domination.....however if you know the invasion is a sham ...there will be no FEAR and how much strronger will we be.This is covert wisdom.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myplanet2 (Post 219788)
Fear behaves just like a real virus. It's catching.

There is nothing wrong with letting people know what's going on that they should be aware of. But to jump to unwarranted conclusions which aren't supported in any way, and even embellishing them to make them scarier is simply spreading fear just like a virus.

It's like handing someone an anti viral agent laced with virus. It doesn't make any sense.


timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 05:15 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Let the debunking and discrediting begin. Yes they want you to turn the other cheek, they want you to do nothing, ignore it, hope that it will go away. They want you to pray and trust Jesus, they want you to say look it's the end times, it was fortold to us by our profits, our profits Daniel and ezekial except the book of enoch lists them as fallen angels.

Take my information and put it everywhere, they don't want you to know they are here, they don't want people to know the truth, disclosure scares these buggers, they are parasites sucking off of us, enjoying our misery which they are creating and covering up.

The reason 230,000+ people are now dieing In the Ukraine and your not reading about it in mainstream news is because they already control the media.

4,000,000 people infected it's only a few weeks before they're mass awakening, it's only a few weeks before everything starts to fall apart, the slaughter has begun and it's a con.

They don't want you to know the truth, go review all my threads look how they line up to discredit and debunk.

In my previous threads I have told how to tell th from us.

When they couldn't debunk they would critisize
my grammer and spelling. Most of what I'm writing is done on an iPod and hard to make corrections, and all of what I have written is the truth.

They are extremily manipulative, passive agressive and they always always give themselves away when they discredit and debunk, and I hope your seeing it now, because a year ago I said my story effects all of us and now with millions of people with the new strain of this labratory made mutant strain, the infrastructure in place, maybe now you will listen to your hearts ,and not be manipulated by these lieing conning manipulating decieving evil creatures, maybe now you will see it's real because I have seen them shapeshift more then once, I can always tell them from us, and I hate them more then you can possibly imagine.

This started to be a story about a conspiracy the CIA was doing using extra terrestrials and in the process I found out everything else.

And what I found out is that we are being kidnapped and replaced.
I found out they are setting up armageddon to get rid of us.
I found out a lot from them I found out the truth.

Take a look at say one person on this thread debunking then go to my other threads look for they're posts see how they debunk and discredit anywhere they can.

Then maybe you will get it, or look at that updated report from the Ukrainian ministry of health and I ask you once again, how is it possible not one western news service Is covering it.

Then maybe you will realize all that I told is the truth. And we the human race is being conned into non-existance.

Yes, take my story and all of this and put it up everywhere.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Myplanet2 (Post 219738)
Perhaps it would help to find out what Reality actually is? I think it's pretty safe to say it's not something that can be posted on a forum.

People post their opinions, observations, conclusions, assumptions, speculations, fears, rumours, unfiltered disinfo, and you call it reality?

Tell me how you arrived at the "conclusion" that what was seen in Norway was connected to weather anomalies? What fried brains? What annihilated countries? Do you have evidence of a mutated flu in Ukraine? Is there even any evidence of an unusual number of deaths that are even flu related in the Ukraine?

Reality isn't what you've been TOLD it is.

lol
MP2


Echo6 01-10-2010 05:23 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Personally, I have seen enough evidence to support the idea that something out of the ordinary has been happening in the Ukraine for at least 3-4 months. The exact scale and nature is still open to debate.

timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 05:23 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
The ministry of Ukraine is talking about it, how they're docters and other first responders are dieing and millions effected. This ladies and gents is the type of debunking and discrediting I'm talking about. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck , well you can finish that sentance, I'm not trying to insult anybody I just call it like I see it, and guess what they just don't want you to know that they are here. They just can't stand it,they hate light of truth exposing they're evil plan,sorry to burst the bubble of secrecy , they shouldn't have killed all my realitives. The one thing the most amazing thing I learned from them , is that Yahweh is here,they hate and fear him and he is here to put a stop to all of this. But that is another thread completly another thread for another time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 219728)
Suddenly they have stopped talking about the flu in Poland. I guess people stopped getting excited about that or...got the facts....nothing in the Polish news about Ukraine in regard to the health problems of its citizens. Maybe nothing extremely serious is happening there...


timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 05:30 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
They are scared, if it weren't true they would simply ignore me, they're discrediting and debunking just gives all of it more credance.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Myplanet2 (Post 219710)
I sure would love to see this kind of garbage posted in unconfirmed news, or conspiracy research, or off topic, or start a new sub forum, "I'm so terrified my eyes are bleeding". :wall:


zaina 01-10-2010 05:31 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timetotelltheworld (Post 219806)
The ministry of Ukraine is talking about it, how they're docters and other first responders are dieing and millions effected. This ladies and gents is the type of debunking and discrediting I'm talking about. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck , well you can finish that sentance, I'm not trying to insult anybody I just call it like I see it, and guess what they just don't want you to know that they are here. They just can't stand it,they hate light of truth exposing they're evil plan,sorry to burst the bubble of secrecy , they shouldn't have killed all my realitives. The one thing the most amazing thing I learned from them , is that Yahweh is here,they hate and fear him and he is here to put a stop to all of this. But that is another thread completly another thread for another time.

Please open a thread on Yahweh being here ,

timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 05:41 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Give it time, the doctors and nurses are dieing too.
They just don't want you to know they are here, they shouldn't have murdered my family, they should have left me alone, they shouldn't have bragged about they're infrastructure and agenda, quit never, sorry people everywhere are wakeing up, sorry if they are waking up early, because the mass awakening they have planned for us. Is at 4 am when you get dragged off to a FEMA death camp near you.

Think possitive these aliens all used to say to me, now I say , think positive and hope and pray all this information doesn't get everywhere, my guess is that humans are waking up a little early and these triple helix buggers will be put into the same deathcamps they built for us.


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Originally Posted by AscendingStarseed (Post 219784)
Ok Totellthetruth, if only 882 have died out of well over 200,000 hospitalizations that isn't a terribly high number of deaths proportionately. I really think it's important to have faith that humanity has allies and that the forces of good will succeed, if that weren't true this mutated plague would've spread much further by now. It had the whole month of October to spread to the rest of the world before they shut the borders down in the Ukraine, I had expected this thing to spread much further by now...thankfully it hasn't appeared to.

Vaccine shipments disappeared and all kinds of things have happened to slow down the spread of the virus, so that they finally called off the swine flu fake pandemic.

So get proactive instead of choosing fear which lowers your vibration and immune system. Chose to "visualize" the virus losing strength and dying off in the population, also boost your immune system with the right supplements to fight of any pathogens you might encounter.

Just as there are bad aliens out there causing problems, there are also good aliens who are much more powerful, far greater in number and who also have the power of God on their side....hmmmm, who do you think will win? I personally have all the faith in the world that we are well represented in Heaven and that our side will win.

So chill-out and quit :wall:

Fear only breeds more fear...and spreading it is bad for your karma


timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 06:35 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
They don't want you to know they're plan
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/12...Dien_Bien.html

H5N1 H1N1 Cluster in Dien Bien Vietnam
Recombinomics Commentary 03:52
December 10, 2009

More and anxiety on the basis of when Dr. Nguyen Tran Hien, Director of Institute of Hygiene and Epidemiology PRIVATE announce the result of epidemiological investigations deaths due to bird flu recently in Dien Bien. Male patients age 23 in the city of Dien Bien death from respiratory failure due to severe viral pneumonia was confirmed by test results: The patient died from H5N1.

When investigating the epidemiology of close contact with patients, medical experts are concerned when they discovered the children of influenza A/H1N1 infected patients. Meanwhile, the Forum chickens living in the cousin has test results positive for H5N1 virus.

The above translation suggests a family in Dien Bien, Vietnam has tested positive for H5N1 and H1N1.* Poultry belonging to the family has also tested positive for H5N1.

Vietnam represents a hot zone where H1N1 and H5N1 are co-circulating.* H1N1 is very promiscuous and has been isolated from a variety of mammalian species as well as turkeys.* Thus, Vietnam would offer an environment for co-infections in a wide range of host including human.

timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 06:38 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
They don't want you to know they're plan

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/01...88N_Hunan.html

Fatal H1N1 RBD Change S188N in Hunan China?
Recombinomics Commentary 15:39
January 3, 2010


November 21 evening 7:30 Xiu Zhang boy was admitted to hospital in Shaoyang city, the hospital in critical condition on the next notice, right chapter Xiu oxygen, infusion, and ECG. "7:30 admitted to hospital after my son and I have been chatting, chat to 10:30, when he suddenly froth at the mouth, unconscious."

"People from normal to death is only about half an hour." Lijun Ze said the son died suddenly so suddenly, the hospital 23:30 began to organize rescue, It was found that Xiu Zhang digestive tract, lungs or brain hemorrhage, the body appears black spots, had no blood pressure, no heartbeat, "the time to save a child is already dead."

He died a hospital at 4:45 on the 22nd Xiu Zhang declared dead. Shaoyang City CDC blood samples confirmed as Influenza A H1N1 influenza testing. Family belongs to at 10 o'clock on the 23rd to see the hospital medical records issued reads, "preliminary diagnosis" is "influenza, encephalitis, pulmonary hemorrhage, and a stream."

The above translation describes the rapid death of a 10 year old boy in Shaoyang city in Hunan, China.* Recent media reports have warned of the rapid spread of H1N1 in the Chinese countryside and three HA sequences from Hunan were just released at Genbank by the Changsha CDC, which is slightly northeast of Shaoyang city.* The three Hunan sequences (A/Hunan Changsha/SWL4346/2009, A/Hunan Furong/SWL4224/2009, A/Hunan Kaifu/SWL4142/2009) were collected in late November from sections of Changsha city (see map) and each was distinct.* The Furong sequence has closely related to a series of sequences recently released from Changdu, to the west of Hunan, but the other two sequences were unique.*

The Kaifu sequence was collected on the date of hospital admission for the above patient, who may have been the source.* It has a number of non-synonymous changes, including a receptor binding domain change S188N, which is also present in a number of isolates from the United States (primarily Texas, but also New York - see list here), as well as Mongolia, Japan, and Spain.

The co-circulation of multiple H1N1 sequences in a small region in Changsha is cause for concern.* A full set of sequences and more information on patients associated with these sequences would be useful.

timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 06:41 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
They don't want you to know they're plan

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/12...5G_Russia.html

Live feed of underlying pandemic map data here
Commentary
H1N1 D225G in Lungs of Patients Across Russia
Recombinomics Commentary 21:28
December 31, 2009

Vector labs in Novosibursk, Russia has submitted a full set of sequences from lung isolates from patients at three distinct locations in Russia (A/Salekhard/01/2009, A/Tomsk/07/2009, A/Abakan/02/2009).* Although each isolate represents a seperate H1N1 genetic background, all three have D225G.* Since all three isolates came from lung, it is likely that the three infections were fatal, or at least severe, which extends the linkage of D225G with severe or fatal H1N1 cases.* These are the first public HA sequences from Russia with D225G and raise concerns that the establishment of the polymorphism, and/or the related associated polymorphism D225N raises concerns of a new pandemic wave that is markedly more severe that prior pandemic H1N1 waves.

Recent comments by ECDC on the WHO working hypothesis that these changes were due to random mutations generated by uncorrected copy errors and that H1N1 with these changes do no transmit, are not consistent with public data.* In Ukraine, six of six fatal cases have D225G or D225N.* Since these markers are only reported in about 1% of pandemic H1N1 HA sequences, the chances of these markers randomly appearing in 6 of 6 fatal cases is in the trillion to one range.* Similarly, several recently released sequences have both D225G and D225N, including two samples in San Luis Potosi that were collected within one day of each, again creating an event that would require two independent changes at adjacent codon positions for residue 225 in two individuals in the same location at the same time.* The likelihood of these two sets of changes happening independently, when only four samples in the Genbank and GISAID database have both changes, so also extremely unlikely, once again raising serious questions about the scientific basis for the WHO position that these changes are independently generated and are copy errors.* The only data in support of this hypothesis is an attribution to WHO in the ECDC report, which has no scientific basis.

The movement of D225G from one H1N1 genetic background is consistent with homologous recombination, and the clustering in western Ukraine, Sao Paulo, or San Luis Potosi is consistent with transmission.* These developments continue to raise concerns that H1N1 with these receptor binding domain changes will emerge in the next wave.*

Today's report from Ukraine has 29 more fatalities in the past 24 hours, raising the increase in the past 4 days to 94 fatalities.* The report of D225G in lung patients from three different regions in Russia on three different genetic backgrounds increases concerns of an emerging lethal pandemic H1N1, WHO proclamations notwithstanding

timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 06:50 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
They don't want you to know they're plan

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/12...uster_Mex.html


Live feed of underlying pandemic map data here
Commentary
D225G / D225N H1N1 Fatal Cluster in San Lois Potosi Mexico
Recombinomics Commentary 23:54
December 24, 2009

The recently released HA sequences from fatal cases in Mexico has identified a cluster(25M and 40M) with D225G and D225N.* Both isolates, A/Mexico/InDRE50625/2009 and A/Mexico/InDRE50617/2009) have mixed signals and were collected within a day of each other from San Lois Potosi, Mexico.* They are the first two isolates from patients in Mexico with both receptor binding domain changes, D225G and D225N, although the same combination was found in a swine sequence, A/swine/4/Mexico/2009, from an outbreak in the adjacent province of Queretaro in April.* The only other reported human sequence with D225G and D225N was from a fatal case in Utah, A/Utah/42/2009, who died July 28.

Concern about the association of receptor binding domain changes D225G and D225N began to emerge when sequences from cases in Brazil were released.* Two Sao Paulo sequences had D225G and both were from fatal cases.* Two more Sao Paulo sequences had D225N and both cases were also fatal.* Moreover, D225G was also found in fatal cases from 1918 and 1919, and the sequence change led to receptor binding changes that targeted receptor with gal 2,3 linkages, such as cells in the lung.

Reports of large number of fatal lung cases in Ukraine led to predictions that receptor binding domain changes at position 225 would be found.* The prediction was confirmed when Mill Hill released sequences from nine patients in western Ukraine.* Five HA sequences from survivors had no receptor binding domain changes, while all four fatal cases had D225G.* Subsequently the CDC released five HA sequence.* Three matched the demographics and sample number for the Mill Hill survivors.* The other two were unique and were likely fatal cases.* Both of these cases had D225N.

The data from Ukraine led other countries to look more closely at sequences from past cases.* In Norway, 3 sequences were identified.* Two were fatal and one severe.* In France there were two cases and both were fatal, including one that also had H274Y.* Similarly, a case from Illinois also had D225G and H274Y.

However, a fatal case from Utah had mixed signals for both D225G and D225N.* This combination was then found in a swine isolated from Queretaro, Mexico and two fatal cases in the adjacent province, San Luis Potosi also had the same combination.* In all cases the same mixed signals were found at the adjacent positions, strongly suggesting that these sequences were transmitting.* This transmission was further supported by collection dates, which were one day apart.

Transmission of these sequences was also supported by cluster in western Ukraine.* The sequences with D225G or D225N were collected from the same general area in Ukraine at the same time.* The initial spike in cases in Ukraine was followed by school closings and warmer weather.* Cases declined but recently began to surge again as the weather cooled and school re-opened.* There were 20 deaths reported in the past 24 hours, raising concerns of another spike in fatalities (see map).

These data continue to support the linkage between D225G and D225N.* Three more recent cases with these changes (one with D225G and two with D225N) were identified in Mexico, and all three were fatal (and the changes were present as mixtures with wild type).* These ratios may vary by tissue type and isolation procedure and the increasing detection may signal changes in circulating virus.

More details and collections from affected organs in severe and fatal cases would be useful.

timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 06:58 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
You can debate all you want. These reports are coming from the ukrainian ministry of health, so debunk , discredit and ignore the truth , maybe it will go away. I think NOT.

They simply don't want you to know they are here, it spoils they're plans. But they're plans for us are evil. And they need to go not us.


And not one western wire service is carrying all these reports coming out of all these countries, come on give me a break, how is that possible,same answer,we are being kidnapped and replaced.
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Originally Posted by Echo6 (Post 219805)
Personally, I have seen enough evidence to support the idea that something out of the ordinary has been happening in the Ukraine for at least 3-4 months. The exact scale and nature is still open to debate.


burgundia 01-10-2010 07:04 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Timmy...i think I will send you an invitation to come to Poland...Ukraine is not that far away...so you can go there and check with your own eyes...maybe you'll feel calmer...at least you'll be at a distance from FEMA camps.

timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 07:15 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Dont have to come to poland all i have to do is look at the report from the ministry of ukraine and all these other places.....latest thing in my life they don't want me getting my mail.

this is from yahoo



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Originally Posted by burgundia (Post 219867)
Timmy...i think I will send you an invitation to come to Poland...Ukraine is not that far away...so you can go there and check with your own eyes...maybe you'll feel calmer...at least you'll be at a distance from FEMA camps.


timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 07:36 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
if anyone recieves an email like this one IGNORE IT IT IS NOT ME AND JUST ONE MORE EXAMPLE OF HOW IM BEING MESSED WITH


I DID NOT SEND THIS EMAIL THIS IS NOT ME AND DAMN THEM THEY JUST CUT OFF MY EMAIL ACCOUNT AND NOW THIS

THEY ALREADY MURDERED ALL MY REALITIVES AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE NIGHT MARE I LIVE

DO NOT RESPOND TO ANYONE OVER SEAS ASKING FOR MONEY NOT MY STYLE

AND ITS A LIE

no what the **** i didnt send that its a lie dont do it


Quote:
Originally Posted by eleni
saying you are in London and asking for money?

This is it.......

eleni Hello,
This has had to come in a hurry and it has left me in a devastating state.I am in some terrible situation and I'm really going to need your urgent help. Yesterday, unannounced, I came down to the United Kingdom for something urgent. Well we actually got robbed in the Hotel I booked in and they made away with my wallet (which included my cash, diaries and credit cards). My cellphones were not brought along since I did not get to roam them before coming over. The phone cables have been burnt including the Hotel's database has been compromised as well. So all I can do now is pay cash and get out of here quickly. I do not want to make a scene of this which is why I did not call the office or my house, this is embarrassing enough. Please I want you to lend me a sum of 2,050 Pounds, just to clear my Hotel bills and get the next plane home. Kindly help me send the Money via Western Union Money Transfer
Below are the Details to transfer the money

NAME- kevin Rush
ADDRESS- 103 Harley Street
CITY- LONDON

timetotelltheworld 01-10-2010 08:06 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
debunk and discredit bla bla bla

they are replaceing us get it your gone they are here and no one knows your missing

seen them shapeshift know that they are here and working on killing us off....


Quote:

Originally Posted by Myplanet2 (Post 219710)
I sure would love to see this kind of garbage posted in unconfirmed news, or conspiracy research, or off topic, or start a new sub forum, "I'm so terrified my eyes are bleeding". :wall:


joe2288 01-10-2010 08:31 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Tyranny is coming to an end and TPTB are beginning to loose there grip on the

world more and more everyday, as people begin to wake up to the game they

have been playing for millenium. This is a time were people should be more

focused on raising there vibration, rather then focusing on the games of

the world elite, because a shift in the way of thinking is here and the good

will soon outweigh the bad. There are bigger players then TPTB and there

not gonna sit back and watch the world go to hek quietly. This will be more

apparent as we move closer to 2012 and people can choose whether they

wanna vibrate in the lower or higher forms of consciousness. You pick, no one

else will do it for you that i can guarantee you.

burgundia 01-10-2010 08:35 PM

Re: 233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timetotelltheworld (Post 219913)
debunk and discredit bla bla bla

they are replaceing us get it your gone they are here and no one knows your missing

seen them shapeshift know that they are here and working on killing us off....

have you been replaced too?


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