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mu2143 01-03-2010 11:36 AM

The Coconut Diet™ - Thyroid Health A Key to Weight Loss
 
Coconut Oil and Oxidative Stress

One of the reasons the long chain fatty acids in vegetable oils are so damaging to the thyroid is that they oxidize quickly and become rancid. Food manufacturers know about this propensity towards rancidity and, therefore, highly refine their vegetable oils. Considerable research has shown that trans fatty acids, present when vegetable oils are highly refined (hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated), are especially damaging to cell tissue and can have a negative affect on the thyroid as well as health in general. Because the longer chain fatty acids are deposited in cells more often as rancid and oxidizing fat, impairment of the conversion of thyroid hormone T4 to T3 occurs, which is symptomatic of hypothyroidism. To create the enzymes needed to convert fats to energy, T4 must be converted to T3.

http://www.coconutdiet.com/thyroid_health.htm

mu2143 01-03-2010 12:07 PM

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So it seems that the saturated oils are the healty fats whe need

You have to remember that in last days of Sumeria just be for the nuclear holocaust there where already making lots of GMO foods. All vegatable oils that go bad with out any vitamines are old GMO's.

Remember also the interview with Dr Pete Peterson he talks obout a very powerfull oil that you need only a drop of a day to keep you healty

Everthing that goes bad quickly wil damage your health. all real knowledge about food is taken away from us.

http://www.heall.com/body/healthupda...oconutoil.html

mu2143 01-03-2010 12:13 PM

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http://www.thescreamonline.com/essay...-1/vegoil.html


“When the attack on coconut oil began,” says Fife, “those medical and research professionals who were familiar with it wondered why. They knew coconut oil did not contribute to heart disease and that it provided many health advantages. Some even stepped forward to set the record straight. But by this time public sentiment had firmly sided with the ASA, and people refused to listen.”

mu2143 01-03-2010 12:15 PM

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One of my familiy members start talking about Coconut oil is bad for you. WTF!!!!!:blink:

mu2143 01-03-2010 12:28 PM

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http://www.premierorganics.org/index...id=61&Itemid=2

Several years ago I met an old couple, who were only a few years apart in age, but the wife looked many years younger than her doddering old husband. She was from the Philippines, and she remarked that she always had to cook two meals at the same time, because her husband couldn't adapt to her traditional food. Three times every day, she still prepared her food in coconut oil. Her apparent youth increased my interest in the effects of coconut oil.

In the l960s, Hartroft and Porta gave an elegant argument for decreasing the ratio of unsaturated oil to saturated oil in the diet (and thus in the tissues). They showed that the "age pigment" is produced in proportion to the ratio of oxidants to antioxidants, multiplied by the ratio of unsaturated oils to saturated oils.

More recently, a variety of studies have demonstrated that ultraviolet light induces peroxidation in unsaturated fats, but not saturated fats, and that this occurs in the skin as well as in the lab.

Rabbit experiments, and studies of humans, showed that the amount of unsaturated oil in the diet strongly affects the rate at which aged, wrinkled skin develops.

Marian-Librarian 01-04-2010 12:40 AM

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I really want to thank you for posting this link!

I have a low thyroid...and I am definitely going to check this info out!

Thanks SOOOO much!!!

<hugs>

Marian

She-Ra 01-04-2010 01:05 AM

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Organic/Virgin coconut oil is fantastic - and used by many of the ancient peoples Asia for cooking or having cold in foods (like with peanut butter and fruit spread sandwiches yummy) as well as a cosmetic i.e. body and hair oil. It's kind of solid (mushy) at room temperature and melts easily at body temperature.

Humble Janitor 01-04-2010 04:19 AM

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So, should I take coconut oil instead of thyroid medication or should I go on a gluten-free diet?

What is best? I probably should consult an actual doctor but I'm open to other opinions.

eleni 01-04-2010 05:01 AM

Re: The Coconut Diet™ - Thyroid Health A Key to Weight Loss
 
Both and consult a naturopath. I have autoimmune hypothyroid, the only way I am able to control it is to eat a grain free diet and use coconut oil, coconut cream, key nutrients suited for my thyroid (medicincal mushrooms, etc)........


At this time I also take a form of natural thyroid......I went off of it last year and that was a major mistake......I ended up with a TSH level of 140 something and almost ended up in a coma......

Have been gluten free for many many years.......and also consumed raw organic coconut oil for many years and an all organic diet etc; since I was born-despite this I still have thyroid issues......

This is an excellent book on the subject - he is one of the best in terms of thyroid- if not the best.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...X0DER&v=glance

mu2143 01-04-2010 05:06 AM

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One of the Thyroid problems is related to iodine if you do not have enough of this stuff you always feel cold, like cold hand and feets.

http://www.sunfood.com/buy/1/101/Bla...anic-1448.aspx

http://www.sunfood.com/buy/1/101/Kel...anic-1447.aspx

And the other problem if you have heavy metals in your system then you need to detox you body from it. kombucha is one of the way, but if search on the net for it you find many ways thing that can help.

MSG is one of thing that í'm trying not to get in to my system

I did a lot of research in to health and food that how I found out the truth on what going on on this planet. What I noticed that the normal docters in holland knows nothing about health.

But it is your body you should take care of it not some doctor there useles to me anyway! onless your going for a docter who is trained in the natural medicine. Not junk syntectic stuff that destroys your health and supressed the problem not solving it.

I hope you do not have Amalgam Fillings. get them removed will help a lot

mu2143 01-04-2010 05:14 AM

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This is a good doctor the one cured desiree jennings that Cheerleader that got disabled by the flu shot.

http://drbuttar.com/

Gnosis5 01-04-2010 05:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mu2143 (Post 215271)
Coconut Oil and Oxidative Stress

One of the reasons the long chain fatty acids in vegetable oils are so damaging to the thyroid is that they oxidize quickly and become rancid. Food manufacturers know about this propensity towards rancidity and, therefore, highly refine their vegetable oils. Considerable research has shown that trans fatty acids, present when vegetable oils are highly refined (hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated), are especially damaging to cell tissue and can have a negative affect on the thyroid as well as health in general. Because the longer chain fatty acids are deposited in cells more often as rancid and oxidizing fat, impairment of the conversion of thyroid hormone T4 to T3 occurs, which is symptomatic of hypothyroidism. To create the enzymes needed to convert fats to energy, T4 must be converted to T3.

http://www.coconutdiet.com/thyroid_health.htm

Had my thyroid removed in '70. Take Standard Process Symplex F and Prolamine Iodine and Selenium. Use only organic butter and/or first cold pressed organic Spanish olive oil. Dr. Mercola recommends Krill oil too.

No chlorine or fluorides to confuse receptor cells. High protein diet with leafy dark green vegetables to control insulin. Plus healthy doses of cinnamon.

Hope that helps.

Gnosis5 01-04-2010 05:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mu2143 (Post 215679)
One of the Thyroid problems is related to iodine if you do not have enough of this stuff you always feel cold, like cold hand and feets.

http://www.sunfood.com/buy/1/101/Bla...anic-1448.aspx

http://www.sunfood.com/buy/1/101/Kel...anic-1447.aspx

And the other problem if you have heavy metals in your system then you need to detox you body from it. kombucha is one of the way, but if search on the net for it you find many ways thing that can help.

MSG is one of thing that í'm trying not to get in to my system

I did a lot of research in to health and food that how I found out the truth on what going on on this planet. What I noticed that the normal docters in holland knows nothing about health.

But it is your body you should take care of it not some doctor there useles to me anyway! onless your going for a docter who is trained in the natural medicine. Not junk syntectic stuff that destroys your health and supressed the problem not solving it.

I hope you do not have Amalgam Fillings. get them removed will help a lot

RE your mention of heavy metals, found that liquid zeolite (when processed correctly) wonderfully removes heavy metals. I also did an enlightened version of oral chelation. Hubby takes some Spirulina every day to remove heavy metals. Seriously, ladies, heavy metals contributes to facial wrinkles.

Same here, have no use for doctors and I live better and longer being my own doc. Will occasionally visit a good Naturopath. However for spiritual clearing/healing, that's another matter, and I do feel I need someone I can trust to work with me on that. Maybe that will change later too.

Gnosis

Humble Janitor 01-04-2010 07:50 AM

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Well I don't want to go on a gluten-free diet because that essentially translates into spending even more money on this organic "fad".

GregorArturo 01-04-2010 08:06 AM

Re: The Coconut Diet™ - Thyroid Health A Key to Weight Loss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mu2143 (Post 215278)
You have to remember that in last days of Sumeria just be for the nuclear holocaust there where already making lots of GMO foods. All vegatable oils that go bad with out any vitamines are old GMO's.

I just had to point this out being an archaeology student. Sumeria so doesn't exist. Only Sumer, and the English association with Sumerian. I have to do this all the time, nothing personal, just a pet peeve. Namaste :)

Oh, and btw 100% support behind the Coconut Oil. Lauric acid is only found elsewhere on the planet in mother's milk. Important stuff. I've used it a little this year myself. There's been an AIDS study over the past two years, and it has helped reduce the viral load of HIV in patients. And not to mention, Thai Coconut Soup, aka Tom Kha Gai, is the the top dog of Earth based soups.

mu2143 01-04-2010 11:28 AM

Re: The Coconut Diet™ - Thyroid Health A Key to Weight Loss
 
Just like every archaeology claims that he is an expert onless you have access to vatican libary or went around the world to find the proof your self
you can claim any thing but air. Sorry to dispoint you.

Most of the clay tablets of sumeria is locked up in some warehouse
only some of them where translated. Spoke of nuclear war the reasonfor the clay tablets is two thing everyhing is lost and clay tablest last a very long time.

I research it my self and to conclusion I drawn out of this that the sumeria civilization existed where Irak is now located. the mayan civilization was problaby the other civilization in the same time the sumerian existed

noah flood did happen around 3400BC and from 3000BC till 2000BC there was I existence of high tech civilization between that period that gote lost in a nuclear holocaust.

Also that I've remember servall past live memorys from that time where I was in airplain an huge airport mulitple huge train stations , airplain crash true a flat me walking past some house like in modern time. Me playing painball with high tech stuff that does not exist to day. Me being in the astral world and walked arournd after the nuclear war in house complex with my modern music stuff tv that does not exist today. your claim are hollow and does not mean anything to me:tongue2:

And many many more part where all more technology existed in the past

Quote:

I just had to point this out being an archaeology student. Sumeria so doesn't exist. Only Sumer, and the English association with Sumerian. I have to do this all the time, nothing personal, just a pet peeve. Namaste

mu2143 01-04-2010 11:47 AM

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And more annoying is some one claiming to be an "expert" "archaeology student" you have to remember that you nothing more but a trained smart monkey. Do you really think that they teach you anything remotely close to the truth??

http://www.hallofthegods.org/images/...PTER-PHOTO.jpg

Most expert are nothing but payed professional liars, the better the lie to more pay you get....

Gnosis5 01-04-2010 10:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eleni (Post 215677)
Both and consult a naturopath. I have autoimmune hypothyroid, the only way I am able to control it is to eat a grain free diet and use coconut oil, coconut cream, key nutrients suited for my thyroid (medicincal mushrooms, etc)........


At this time I also take a form of natural thyroid......I went off of it last year and that was a major mistake......I ended up with a TSH level of 140 something and almost ended up in a coma......

Have been gluten free for many many years.......and also consumed raw organic coconut oil for many years and an all organic diet etc; since I was born-despite this I still have thyroid issues......

This is an excellent book on the subject - he is one of the best in terms of thyroid- if not the best.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...X0DER&v=glance

According to Dr. Peter D'Adamo the "O" blood group have more autoimmune and thyroid issues. I had autoimmune issues with thyroid before it was removed.

Stopping grains is great. I can get away with spelt flour (sold at Bulk Barn) and some rice. The long fast (link here) helped my body to re-set itself hormonally.

Besides what you are doing now, what else is your body telling you to do or not do?

mu2143 01-04-2010 11:33 PM

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There is a lot of knowledge out there, the best think what you can do that is very simple. Look what your eating

all E number our poision to the body.
avoid shampoo and any other stuff for cleaning you and your clothing. you would not eat it why would you put it on you skin?

same with toothbrush use herbs and oils only no so called natural.

Get a detox from heavy metals something you know that removes it daily. My favored is kombucha tea, because it easy and cheap.

Also check for herb that can help

If you address all of it your health is just going transform you, i'm almost back to my normal weight. lenght is 1.86 m 64/65kg

Quote:

I really want to thank you for posting this link!

I have a low thyroid...and I am definitely going to check this info out!

Thanks SOOOO much!!!

<hugs>

Marian
:welcomeani:

Luana 01-04-2010 11:56 PM

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Mu...What do you use to wash your hair and clothes?

mu2143 01-05-2010 12:10 AM

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Its very cheap its called water, only brush my teeth with oil and herbs:mfr_omg:

You can wash your clothes with wash nut , just do a search for it.
also you can wash your clothes in baking soda.

I do still have herbs for washing my hair if I want too:original:

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Mu...What do you use to wash your hair and clothes?

Sideshow Shaman 01-05-2010 02:50 AM

Coconut Oil
 
Health Tip #1 : use coconut oil.

Most people that need to lose weight have a suppressed metabolism. Eating a tablespoon of coconut oil every day will normalize the metabolism. Eating 2 tablespoons per day is good too, but start with one.

The best coconut oil in the world all comes from one manufacturer in Indonesia (edited: whoops, not Malaysia). The reason it is better than the rest is the manner in which it is processed. It goes through a cold process three stage centrifuge also called 'wet-milled'. This is a custom made scientific grade machine & is not generally public knowledge. This process results in the only known raw coconut oil.

The oil resulting from the above process contains naturally occurring vitamin E, which many people believe coconut oil cannot contain. It is marketed under various names. PM me for further reference, do not want to break any endorsement rules here & "no", I have no financial stake in this.

Traditional processes, while still great, involve pressing/boiling. There are loads of coconut oils claiming to be raw when they are not. Also "virgin" has no meaning beyond marketing in reference to coconut oil, organic (or not) still applies though.

With that said, even 'bad' coconut oil is better than other oils. It even has antibacterial and anti-viral properties. Which is part of why it instantly relieves itchy skin. Using it to moisturize the scalp is amazing for those that have psoriasis/dandruff or those that just want great looking hair. Pro tip: apply to scalp, not all of the hair, it will work outwards. I mix mine with a few drops of Spikenard oil.

Coconut is the only healthy oil that does not hydrogenate at high cooking temperature (300+ degrees Fahrenheit). Because of this it is the only oil suitable for traditional stir fry.

It is very wise to replace all cooking oils with Coconut oil.

...detoxing is a thoroughly different issue...

eleni 01-05-2010 05:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnosis5 (Post 216263)
According to Dr. Peter D'Adamo the "O" blood group have more autoimmune and thyroid issues. I had autoimmune issues with thyroid before it was removed.

Stopping grains is great. I can get away with spelt flour (sold at Bulk Barn) and some rice. The long fast (link here) helped my body to re-set itself hormonally.

Besides what you are doing now, what else is your body telling you to do or not do?

I'm O and need some animal protein. I have done a lot of cleansing, fasting, green juice plus zeolite fasting, (various Zeolites, until I settled on my favorite one which is Quantum)....

I do FIR (far infra red) daily.....use Magnascent iodine, been eating sea vegetables almost daily since I was 12 years old.......avoid raw cruciferous vegetables eat raw butter which is good for thyroid,.......I... do yoga, rebound, etc; too munerous to list here....
got my mouth cleaned up with a biological DDS

My thyroid plummeted when I went raw vegan for 3 years....prior to that I ate a high raw diet with select animal food and was fine......so I went back to that.....plus select herbs (ashwaganda, mushrooms, Quantum's B etc)

eleni 01-05-2010 05:31 AM

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Hal Huggin's suggests baking soda to brush with.....I use that.......

I've never used chemical products on my body, grew up eating organic and using organic skin/hair care.......but beware because even a lot of the organic lines are filled with toxins......

We buy our coconut oil from following places........

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/ their virgin oil de coc creme is what I used for years......I still like the flavor the best.......


http://vivapura.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65 theirs I started using about 18 months ago.....flavor takes some getting used to.....they have GREAT superfoods! We buy a lot from them.......

Humble Janitor 01-05-2010 05:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnosis5 (Post 216263)
According to Dr. Peter D'Adamo the "O" blood group have more autoimmune and thyroid issues. I had autoimmune issues with thyroid before it was removed.

Stopping grains is great. I can get away with spelt flour (sold at Bulk Barn) and some rice. The long fast (link here) helped my body to re-set itself hormonally.

Besides what you are doing now, what else is your body telling you to do or not do?

I don't have Type O blood but I do have a family history of thyroid issues.

The meds I take seem to be sufficient enough and they don't interfere much with my life. I get more energy, better sleep patterns and weight control from them. Maybe I'm alright then?

shiftmonkey 01-05-2010 12:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor (Post 215739)
Well I don't want to go on a gluten-free diet because that essentially translates into spending even more money on this organic "fad".

Organic is a fad? Organically grown produce has at least 3 times the nutritional content of non-organically grown produce. Non-organic produce is completely devoid of all essential trace minerals and is sprayed with highly toxic pesticides which can accumulate in your cells.

shiftmonkey 01-05-2010 12:47 PM

Re: Coconut Oil
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sideshow Shaman (Post 216377)
Health Tip #1 : use coconut oil.

Most people that need to lose weight have a suppressed metabolism.

...detoxing is a thoroughly different issue...

The question you are forgetting to ask is why do these people have a suppressed metabolism? For any lasting effect you have to find the root cause. My girlfriend had a thyroid problem and I did a ton of research about it. Soy is a major culprit that leads to thyroid problems and weight issues. The neurotoxin Aspartame (nutrisweet), and corn syrup are the other 2 food ingredients that lead to weight gain.

2 years ago I lost 40 pounds in less than 6 months by eliminating just those 3 ingredients from my diet- that put me on the path. Now I eat only organic or home grown food. I have eliminated all processed foods completely now. I know what's in every piece of food that goes past my lips.

I have to totally disagree with you about detoxification being a separate issue. Detoxing is probably the number one thing that people should be doing to restore health.

Another major factor in suppressed metabolism and thyroid dysfunction which is often overlooked are mineral imbalances. Not many people talk about the importance of minerals. Minerals are vitally important for proper bio-chemistry. And it's not just a matter of popping mineral supplements. Minerals need to be in proper ratios to each other.

One of the main things that heavy metals do is mess with the way the body utilizes minerals. Heavy metals throw everything out of whack and the person becomes a bio-chemical train wreck- all kinds of problems result. Everything from simple weight gain to cancer. So here again it comes back to detoxification.

I have direct experience with heavy metal toxicity due to chronic mercury poisoning from my fillings. It has taken me years to figure out where my health problems where coming from. I continually detox and I keep making small changes to my diet and lifestyle and my health keeps improving.

Trust the wisdom of the body. It will always lean towards health if properly supported. It will always seek balance (homeostasis). I know a bit about this kind of thing so anyone can PM me if they would like some advice.

mu2143 01-05-2010 01:53 PM

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Exactly, I had health issue from chronic mercury poisoning, but do to my ever increasing knowledge I was adding herbs that containt iodine and I was adding coconut, himalayian crystal salt, chorela over the years. But it is still like swimming against the flow of things. still not knowing that my fillings was the main problem

My weight got only as high as around 80kg(1.86m) and start fighting it again it to lose wheight. But if you have your poisioness fillings in then your body is overloaded with toxins. a toxic body is the main problem why you having health issues.

The main thing is what goes in to your body is the problem
eliminate eating and washing in toxins is the number one.

The second is getting nutritions in to your body who are able to remove all of the toxins in your body.

Then your health start really turning around.
Your wil lose weight so easily you can't believe it is real. The problem is why people have a hard time losing weight is because there trying to lose wheight on a false science that you have to eat less fat.

I alwasy said you have to eat less bull Zhit .:mfr_lol:


Quote:

The question you are forgetting to ask is why do these people have a suppressed metabolism? For any lasting effect you have to find the root cause. My girlfriend had a thyroid problem and I did a ton of research about it. Soy is a major culprit that leads to thyroid problems and weight issues. The neurotoxin Aspartame (nutrisweet), and corn syrup are the other 2 food ingredients that lead to weight gain.

2 years ago I lost 40 pounds by eliminating just those 3 ingredients from my diet- that put me on the path. Now I eat everything organic or home grown. I have eliminated all processed foods completely now. I know what's in every piece of food that goes past my lips.

I have to totally disagree with you about detoxification being a separate issue. Detoxing is probably the number one thing that people should be doing to restore health.

Another major factor in suppressed metabolism and thyroid dysfunction which is often overlooked are mineral imbalances. Not many people talk about the importance minerals. Minerals are vitally important for proper bio-chemistry. And it's not just a matter of popping mineral supplements. Minerals need to be in proper ratios to each other.

One of the main things that heavy metals do is mess with the way the body utilizes minerals. Heavy metals throw everything out of whack and the person becomes a bio-chemical train wreck- all kinds of problems result. Everything from simple weight gain to cancer. So here again it comes back to detoxification.

I have direct experience with heavy metal toxicity due to chronic mercury poisoning from my fillings. It has taken me years to figure out where my health problems where coming from. I continually detox and I keep making small changes to my diet and lifestyle and my health keeps improving.

Trust the wisdom of the body. It will always lean towards health if properly supported. It will always seek balance (homeostasis). I know a bit about this kind of thing so anyone can PM me if they would like some advice.

GregorArturo 01-06-2010 03:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mu2143 (Post 215815)
Just like every archaeology claims that he is an expert onless you have access to vatican libary or went around the world to find the proof your self
you can claim any thing but air. Sorry to dispoint you.

Most of the clay tablets of sumeria is locked up in some warehouse
only some of them where translated. Spoke of nuclear war the reasonfor the clay tablets is two thing everyhing is lost and clay tablest last a very long time.

I research it my self and to conclusion I drawn out of this that the sumeria civilization existed where Irak is now located. the mayan civilization was problaby the other civilization in the same time the sumerian existed

noah flood did happen around 3400BC and from 3000BC till 2000BC there was I existence of high tech civilization between that period that gote lost in a nuclear holocaust.

Also that I've remember servall past live memorys from that time where I was in airplain an huge airport mulitple huge train stations , airplain crash true a flat me walking past some house like in modern time. Me playing painball with high tech stuff that does not exist to day. Me being in the astral world and walked arournd after the nuclear war in house complex with my modern music stuff tv that does not exist today. your claim are hollow and does not mean anything to me:tongue2:

And many many more part where all more technology existed in the past

LOL. Complete miscommunication here. Sumer exists. Sumeria doesn't exist. It is a misspelling of the name, as with a bunch of your message, but I don't care about that. It's just like there's the use of Britain and Britannia, except the term Sumeria was invented (and never used previously in the historical record, while Britannia was) by authors in the latter part of the 20th century out of ignorance due to the assumed association with the word Sumerian. Sumer is just historically correct, that's all. You can even check with a dictionary.

And please, give archaeology some respect. There are some very dedicated and beautiful minds in the field who aren't completely full of themselves just cause they are an archaeologist, a college professor, intellectual, and so on... I've met some, and they are beautiful human beings. I am not here to have an ego battle. I am just of tired disinformation & blind faith thinkers, even if it involves a simple -ia :original:

Also remember, not everyone shares your perspective and most specifically your experiences. I am not denying them, and I have had my fair share of run ins with past lives and the astral word but that does not make it evidence for the human body as a whole. You should reflect on how you approached your argument.

Anyway, keep up the great info on coconut oil. The stuff is a blessing. I like your energy. It has a lot of positive and strong intent behind it. Namaste!


:wink2:

mu2143 01-06-2010 04:36 AM

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miscommunication it happens :original:

But real archaeology that really wanted to find the truth.
Found out mostly the hard way ,mostly lose there creditbility and anyting they had that showed that they have found proof that the standard findings are not correct.
they will lose anything pointing out that they can officely claim that there a archaeologist.
there lose there funds too.


Some of them fight back and get some real information like Jonathan Gray and others.
www.beforeus.com

I know sumer is place on the map where it has existed just like the mayan only they twisted and tried to make it look primitive and some how the cities where abandoned. duhh (high tech warfare) Sumerian is like the collective civilizations of land/states, just like America you call it the United states of America.

Only there where not mutch united when they started nuking each other.

jimmer 01-06-2010 06:56 PM

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very interesting discussion.

I'll try coconut oil and see what comes of it.

thanks for the information.

Humble Janitor 01-06-2010 07:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shiftmonkey (Post 216536)
Organic is a fad? Organically grown produce has at least 3 times the nutritional content of non-organically grown produce. Non-organic produce is completely devoid of all essential trace minerals and is sprayed with highly toxic pesticides which can accumulate in your cells.

Then why is it more expensive to buy such foods? When you don't have the ability to grow them, it adds up over time.

If such foods costed LESS than their GMO versions, perhaps more people would have access to them?

Dantheman62 01-06-2010 08:11 PM

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Use one level tablespoon of Thyme to one pint of boiling water and steep for twenty minutes. After cooling and straining it, suggested recipes say to drink two cups a day. The tea also works toward cleansing and building the blood lymphatics and the thyroid and thymus, in addition to assisting in the elimination of radiation poisoning!

cloud9 01-06-2010 08:28 PM

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Great thread and thank you for all those helpful tips. By the way, to Gregor Aurturo and mu2143, just in case, Sumeria is the name of the place or civilization in spanish lol

mu2143 01-06-2010 08:40 PM

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By the way, to Gregor Aurturo and mu2143, just in case, Sumeria is the name of the place or civilization in spanish lol
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Sideshow Shaman 01-07-2010 12:28 AM

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Hey Shift Monkey,
I certainly agree that the questions you raise should be asked. I just felt that detoxing is a much larger topic than coconut oil can deal with on it's own. Your additional information of mercury in relation to the thyroid is worth noting. Also, I think everyone should be actively detoxing, even people without thyroid problems or sluggish metabolism.

Using coconut oil is my health tip #1 because it is easy and gets results when eaten uncooked. Getting people to actually try, and stick with, new things can be extremely difficult.

My mercury fillings were removed 2 or 3 years ago. At the time the first filling was removed (my holistic dentist recommended the most electrically active filling should be removed first) I felt an instant electrical response in a lower leg. In the following days there was a noticeable lessening of "anger" in my thoughts. I do recommend this too.

shiftmonkey 01-07-2010 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Humble Janitor (Post 217485)
Then why is it more expensive to buy such foods? When you don't have the ability to grow them, it adds up over time.

If such foods costed LESS than their GMO versions, perhaps more people would have access to them?

I didn't know that organic food cost less to produce. Are you sure about that? Are you sure that that is true on a commercial scale? The current system is set up and subsidized for factory farms that put out tons of product for the cheapest price possible. And just because regular supermarket food is less expensive is that a good enough reason to put junk in your body?

I totally understand where you are coming from as far as cost goes. It certainly does add up. I'm on a fixed income at the present time- after I pay rent I barely have enough for food. I sacrifice social activities and I drive a crappy looking pick-up truck because I can't afford a car payment and insurance on something nicer. The bottom line is that that stuff is not a priority for me.

Did you know that food expenditure is the number one cost for most people on the planet? What is the number one household expenditure in the USA? Probably house and car payments. We probably spend more money on "disease management" within our antiquated and faulty health care system than most people spend on food. See the problem? It's about priorities. What I put into my body is a priority because I truly know the importance of it through my own research. In the long run it will keep me healthier. I want to stay as far away from doctors and hospitals as I can.

I don't know about you but I want to live a long, happy and healthy life. When you take into account all of the preservatives, pesticides, heavy metals, chemicals, colorings, sugars, flavorings, pollutants, toxic processing agents, and additives in the regular food and water supply in the USA you can see that what most people are ingesting is absolute poison- and in my opinion is not fit for consumption. As a result of the modern diet, most peoples bodies are over burdened with accumulated toxins.

Sometimes when I go into town to run errands I wind up just looking at people walking out of the supermarket and so many of them look so unhealthy and over weight- even the children. I feel so sorry for them because they just don't know. A few years ago I was one of them! I was overweight and felt sick and tired all the time and I didn't understand why.

I apologize that the conversation has drifted away from coconut oil but weight and health issues are so much more complex. Coconut oil is probably great for you but it's just a tiny piece of a puzzle. I have added it to my own diet, but in my opinion there is not one magic bullet that will make you thin and healthy. It has to be a lifestyle choice. We have to continually stretch our awareness to see the bigger picture.

shiftmonkey 01-07-2010 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sideshow Shaman (Post 217654)
Hey Shift Monkey,
I certainly agree that the questions you raise should be asked. I just felt that detoxing is a much larger topic than coconut oil can deal with on it's own. Your additional information of mercury in relation to the thyroid is worth noting. Also, I think everyone should be actively detoxing, even people without thyroid problems or sluggish metabolism.

Using coconut oil is my health tip #1 because it is easy and gets results when eaten uncooked. Getting people to actually try, and stick with, new things can be extremely difficult.

My mercury fillings were removed 2 or 3 years ago. At the time the first filling was removed (my holistic dentist recommended the most electrically active filling should be removed first) I felt an instant electrical response in a lower leg. In the following days there was a noticeable lessening of "anger" in my thoughts. I do recommend this too.

I'm with you my friend. I know that getting people to try and stick with new things is difficult. My own siblings do not see the big picture. But all we can do is offer the information.

I can't even begin to tell you the mental and emotional improvements that I felt after the mercury was taken out of my head. I have a long way to go though. It will take several years of detoxing to get it out of my central nervous system. I had quite a few large fillings that were all over 30 years old and I am dealing with a severe toxicity that has taken a toll on my liver/gall bladder and kidneys.

By the way I think coconut oil is great! I put coconut butter in my oatmeal and it's awesome. The one I buy is a raw/whole food made by Artisana.

Gnosis5 01-07-2010 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by eleni (Post 216422)
I'm O and need some animal protein. I have done a lot of cleansing, fasting, green juice plus zeolite fasting, (various Zeolites, until I settled on my favorite one which is Quantum)....

I do FIR (far infra red) daily.....use Magnascent iodine, been eating sea vegetables almost daily since I was 12 years old.......avoid raw cruciferous vegetables eat raw butter which is good for thyroid,.......I... do yoga, rebound, etc; too munerous to list here....
got my mouth cleaned up with a biological DDS

My thyroid plummeted when I went raw vegan for 3 years....prior to that I ate a high raw diet with select animal food and was fine......so I went back to that.....plus select herbs (ashwaganda, mushrooms, Quantum's B etc)

Hello Eleni,

I thought I was a purist...I hope you don't mind that I copied everything you wrote and put it in my own personal Word file. I intend to mimic some of your routines in order to improve on what I am already doing.

Don't you find that raw meat, like steak tartare and certain sashimi go down better than thoroughly cooked meats? Do you also make your own meat broths?

I have seaweed I purchased from a Korean market and keep forgetting to put it in my broths. It takes some getting used to.

Have you tried the spelt bread.

I have not seen raw butter at the organic market. Organic butter here in Toronto is about $10 a pound, double the price.

What is your take on olive oil?

My body also thinks lard is okay too. How about yours?

Have you tried Adzuki beans?

Zeddo 01-07-2010 03:59 AM

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