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Those who espouse the idea that all the Ets are bad guys out to eradicate us and take over our planet, need to take a big spoonful of logic then put their brains into gear. It is common belief that Ets created the human race or at least seeded the planet with us. This appears to have happened some hundreds of thousands of years ago. So why do they want to get rid of us now? Why have they taken so long? Why did they allow us to populate the earth to the extent we have? If they wanted the planet for its minerals, they’ve left it a bit late haven’t they? There can’t be much left of any value to them. Let’s face it, there isn’t a lot left that’s useful to us. :sad:

The threat to our planet isn’t from Ets - it’s from ourselves. We got ourselves into this mess and it’s about time we owned up to the fact and did something about it. Take your future in your own hands and do something positive. Stop wondering if UFOs and Ets exist and accept the fact that they do. Put your energies into learning how to make a difference and put what you learn to good use. Become self sufficient to the best of your ability. You don’t have to feed the world nor are you expected to - just making the effort to learn and do self sufficiency in a small way is enough for a start. :thumb_yello:

Once you have your physical being under control, then you can start on your spiritual being. The rewards will be beyond what you dreamed possible - unless you’ve read books on the subject of spiritual growth. In which case, you know what is in store - so give it a go. You’ve got more to gain than you have to lose. :original:

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:thumb_yello: Brinty! As always words of wisdom from you....

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I would say:

...You've got everything to gain and nothing to lose...

Thanks Brinty for this thread, a wonderfull reminder indeed :thumb_yello:

with :wub2: and respect
malletzky

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I am not a doom ang gloomer but to believe that all the ETs are good is to side with Dr. Greer

Like with humanity, logic says that if there are good and bad people here there must be in the rest of the galaxy and universe, there are many contactees like Alex Colier that say that there are some races that are a serious danger for humanity

Why then people like William Cooper, say that the Presidents of the USofA were aware of the treat and did not know how to deal with it?

Et's of benevolent origin have come to this planet and offered to help but they were not taken seriously that has been said by contactee Anna Hayes and Billi Meier, because they did not wanted to give weapons to the governments

It is not the people that is the problem, it is the mind control, food control, television and education brainwashing, etc.

After all the first responsibles for the doom and gloom are the 13 families that by trickery have got humanity to sign a blank check and have taken the planet over from under our feet, those are the ones that control the doom and gloom press and finance movies like 2012 for a reason

Cheers

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The solution to the problem is what we humans need to accomplish. By pointing our finger at an alien to blame, fear, or look to as a way of being rescued is not contributing to the solution - all continue the problem, which is that we've been duped. Blaming, fearing, or waiting to be saved is further delusion. We're the ones who have cooperated with controllers because we didn't know better. Now some of us know better.

That is, some of us have overcome the mind control, food control, television, and education brainwashing, etc. So it's possible.

Our job as a species is to continue this process of overcoming.

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i agree brinty.

thinking were being invaded by negative ET's (as kerry thinks and is developing "light warriors" as her pseudo jedi response to fight the bad guys)


this type of thinking plays into the whole "us vs them" take back my earth its MINE!

well its really not, humans have been a round for a blink of an eye and yes, evidence points to ET's having something to do with our origins.

when you look around at how sh**** ty things are, i have an easier time believing its us that are fighting wars, making shopping malls, building tanks, brainwashing etc etc.

if you want to believe lizard people are responsible thats fine if you want to train your mind to zap them thats fine, but i honestly id work on people getting along and figuring out how to treat people before i get my light sabre to fight aliens.

i think its amusing kerry wants to learn how to remote view and be super spiritual when she cant even do an interview without her monstrous ego showing up and proclaiming she has the latest cutting edge insider info and were all going to be invaded and the earth is almost out of air. gimme a break.

i find it funny so many spiritual/ metaphysical folk want to increase their brain power to levitate or remote view but they dont even know how not to be an a-s-s.

kerry should read and UNDERSTAND some krishnamurti, if she is capable and get past all this duality forming groups of conflict etc.

if you want to believe aliens/lizards are to blame for everything then your having the same victim mentality people have had for ages and is probably why your on this planet anyhow, people need to get past the victim/oppressor mode.

kerry thinks she's john connor from the terminator movies (she posted to go see the movie) and constantly says "you are the resistance" again her ego is leading the way thinking she's some sort of leader against an alien invasion.
pretty silly if you ask me. the sad thing is people listen and believe this poo.

her views on an alien invasion are so ridiculous i believe thats why her and bill will now have seperate blogs because of their increasingly divergent views.

my view is take responsibilty for your actions and your SPECIES actions, we got ourselves in this mess, were not a "slave species of god" as kerry thinks. odds are humans who practice a biologically unstable way of living (i.e the whole of "civilization") can wipe ourselves out by our own greed and pettyness, and the few humans practicing a balanced way of life (indigeneous tribes) will continue on. and none of it will be jabba the hut's or the klingon's fault.

-clark

http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com/

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Thank you Clarkent for some healthy common sense...

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Is this true?

This thought had not occurred to me...

I had thought the purpose of the new project was to focus on humans increasing their individual responsibility for themselves by working on their consciousness...

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ditto Superman in disguise
Your site above is very informative and I recommend it.

Abraxasinas

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seashore here's a quote regarding kerry's "light warriors"


"The bottom line is we are facing an invasion of the planet (it's been going on a long time) and we need to take the planet back... and to do so we need an army of light workers fully developed. It's a battle for hearts and minds (and souls). It's all about consciousness.

Anyone submitting ideas or volunteering skillsets put OBIWAN in the subject line.

We are the Resistance!

Blessings,

Kerry

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Thank you.

I interpret her message as being a focus on our consciousness - not eradicating bad guys.

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i see what your saying , but its all about "consciousness" and inner work then why frame it in conflict with an invading army from outerspace? again, she wants to be uber consciouss but what does that even mean when she cant hold her ego in check during an interview and cant have common courtesy to let others speak before she walks all over peoples points of view with a smug attittude.

its annoying because just when there might be some interesting info in an interview about ET's if it doesnt line up with kerry's "invasion/resistance" scenario she skips over it into something that fits her view.

do you see what im saying? whats the point of learning to remote view to fight supposed reptillians when you cant even be a respectful person not full of arrogance and smugness?

kerry is so mired in her imagined role against alien invaders that following her down any vague "consciousness" path would seem as fruitful as following paris hilton in an "anti superficial" movement. in other words-pointless.

i also shy away from "leaders" "followers" and "groups" i cant even go to a big concert because of the worshipful overtones, it just wigs me out.

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Yes, I do see what you're saying and I'm very glad this is being brought to my attention.

Looking back on it I remember thinking to myself that directing the public to learn remote viewing is probably not what we should be focusing on - too esoteric and we need to simply take responsibility for ourselves, that's all...

I also have never been comfortable with the term "warrior," but I just accepted it as something that might be motivational for new people seeking solutions...

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If I'm not mistaken, the term spiritual warrior has ancient beginnings. It's not just about jedi warriors and all of that. A spiritual warrior is one who recognizes that personal power comes from overcoming a war within one's self. A war for correct thinking, correct action. There are probably other folks in the forum who can further explain the term, but I'll try. As a spiritual warrior, one is constantly aware of outside influences or automatic responses that keep one from the true spiritual path, the positive one. For example, the warrior must not make assumptions, the warrior must not take things personally: as no one does anything because of you. Everyone is part of the collective consciousness, "the dream" and the warrior can step outside of this, be objective, and relinquish the parts of the dream that are holding him/her back or causing negative action. Success comes from right action based on winning the personal war, taking one's own power back.

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Gary Van Warmerdam defines spiritual warrior this way:

"The quest of a Spiritual Warrior is for Personal Freedom. Personal Freedom means freedom from fear, illusions, and the fear based beliefs in the mind. In essence it means to win the war over the beliefs in the mind. It is with Personal Freedom that we are free of the human condition of emotional suffering. Spiritual traditions around the world have their own names for this state of awareness including nirvana and heaven. It is a state that is simply described as living your life with unconditional love, gratitude, and respect, for your self, and for others."

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working on your inner self and being balanced is great, i would never disparage that.

but i do take exception that she wants to form a group with that moniker in order to learn how to remote view to "take back" "our" planet, from alien invaders.

its funny how materialistic and un "spiritual" that sentence is. nothing is "ours" and fighting to own anything is what lands our species in the muck were in. besides reptiles were here before us, so if dinosaurs came in big ships wanting the planet back what would kerry do? she needs to get beyond her materialstic/conflict based way of thinking.

id rather kerry work on her own problems and not train a group to develop mind powers, and ill also point out that very group she rails against (the illuminatti/masons) do much the same thing seeking "enlightenment" and "mind expansion" and developing superhuman powers in elite groups, meanwhile no one seeks to develop how to get along with our fellow man.

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Another excellent post^^^

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Brinty: Thanks for bringing this up.

This is exactly what I was getting at on my thread at http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18802

We have some major issues in the "truth" movement that are bigger than just plain old disinformation.

I have a word I'm going to use for this because the issue with the ETs influencing the planet is something that may have some validity, but it is a redirect.

A redirect is when you give someone a partial truth in order to get them to focus their energy (time, resources, money) on something that is completely irrelevant.

My take is the ET issue is way in left field. Yes, there may be an ET issue. Yes, some may have some influence on the planet.

But, the big big picture is us people and what we are doing to each other. That is the real news. That's the important thing.

Whatever comes out about ETs is just entertainment and is nothing but a redirect.

--sjkted

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Clark: Are you saying that you think the purpose of PLW is to simply teach remote viewing in order to take the planet back from alien invaders? If so, I think you are not aware a of bigger picture and a larger goal. Remote viewing is one small "tool." Some care to learn about it, others do not. There will be many topics that are of interest to you, and some that are not. To dismiss the entire project based on one tiny sliver of information about one particular tool is not giving it a fair chance. How about contributing what you think will be useful? I'm not being a smartmouth here. You must have a lot to offer, or you wouldn't be engaged in this conversation, right? I see that you are 33 years old, old enough to have gathered a lot of insights...go for it, man!

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So long as we can turn off the television, educate ourselves, communicate with each other, assemble with each other, make our own decisions and learn from them, we have FREE WILL.

FREE WILL is independent of any outside sources. Every person already has their own free will, the problem is most pretend it doesn't exist.

It's not easy to be responsible. It will always be more convenient to point your finger elsewhere and find some outside group that is to be made wrong.

My last point is to remind everyone that Hitler was actually elected by the democratic process.

--sjkted

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as, long as you keep one foot parked in the past,
will you ever enter, the future ???

truth is ~ always and, all ways altering-changing-and, shifting

eXchanging & sending energy iS the action that all beings utilise
to communicate/or eXchange

so iT iS important to screen, who it is, you allow

and, who iT iS that you choose NOT to allow

the potenital of choice of duality eXists in everything !!!

except those things,
that move through stages
from colourful caterpillar to plain moth...
or, from plain caterpillar to colourful butterfly
each step is merely, a different metaphoris

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Bingo. If we were to become such a group, how would we be any different? Oh yeah, of course, we would be the good guys :lol3:

--sjkted

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I agree with you...

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im not disparaging people meditating or working on themselves.

im simply bringing to the fore that someone with good intentions (kerry) is very much mired in a materialistic dualistic conflict based viewpoint with her ego leading the way.

im trying to highlight major discrepancies with forming a group with conflict and an end goal of "taking back the planet" from alien invaders. no one seems to be addressing kerry's reasons for forming the group and people seem to arguing that whats wrong with working on your inner issues etc like thats what im criticizing , im not.

im highlighting the fact that her ego is are notable for someone so 'consciouss and spiritual' and that the words used for forming the group include-

-warrior, resistance, invasion, we need an army etc etc

to me this seems wrong headed and at odds with a balanced "spiritual" perspective. che guevara and john conner are archtypes based in conflict, good vs bad , eye for eye.

its good to have the right intentions but as they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. i dont believe she has a very wise or mature standpoint and is prone to believing every alarmist gloom and doom disinfo that comes down the pike.

the only solution im offering is that look at these details and maybe you can actually do more good by not joining any kind of "army" ever, not following leaders, not being part of little exclusive groups. all these things are out of a dualistic conflict , follower/leader , victim/oppressor mindset.

thats what im offering.

-clark

http://superstrangeland.blogspot.com/

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Clark: you have valid points about dualistic conflict. Perhaps we should ask Kerry as to what, exactly, in her direct experience, causes her to use those terms. We should not assume anything here. The words "army" and "invasion" may have been a metaphor, but, maybe not. I have asked Kerry if I could interview her. Wouldn't it be interesting to ask what experiences have caused her to use the exact verbiage that she did? I'm sure both Bill and Kerry are holding back information that they truly wish they could provide to us. I will hold back from being critical until we get more definitive info from both of them. This may take some time.

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Why would they be holding back information? Are you suggesting someone is forcing their hand?

--sjkted

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I think there are a few things going on. First we are programmed by TV to think aliens who come here will want our resources and invade. Look at all the TV shows where the hero fights of alien invasion against all odds.

I also do believe from my own "insight" that there is some sort of conflict about Earth in the alien community. Something to do what travel and "roadways." Due to some sort of collapse of a wormhole or cosmic string Earth is now going to be a cosmic highway crossing. Which will make us more vulnerable over all.

I agree were are a bigger threat to ourselves than from outside. though we see earth as this precious little gem full of resources and life, we are not seen that way by many others. There are tons of planets that have life out there. I do not believe ET will step in and save us from ourselves.

unfortunately people are not going to wake up and do something about anything. they do not understand how far down the rabbit hole we have fallen. The banking mafia has total control of all aspects of our life. The media brainwashes people with their own agendas.

One of the things the media brainwashes us with is alien life, sci-fi and to boot they present the world as a reality that is false and far from the truth. Another words they lie and brainwash the public.

The public is also being heavily drugged via drinking water, food preservatives and mediactions. Recently the big media tried to make out people are peeing drugs into our water supply. They avoided reporting the fact that drug companies are actually illegally dumping expired products into water supplies. Instead they blamed it on consumers...which made the report seriously ridiculous.

few will actually wake up. I do believe there will be some sort of food shortage in the near future and hope people take precautions and start stocking up. If I am wrong then no harm done...just extra supplies on hand. If I'm right it could save lives.




I think people need to be aware to begin with. As I stated before, they are drugged beyond belief. Kind of hard to have a spiritual awakening when you are drugged.

I had my own experience with mind altering medications. I was given an anti-depressant for inflammation. Not only did I have a constant high, I had a personality change. The meds has a tendency to magnify slight personality quirks. I was always a tad bit 'tomboyish." I never went for pretty dresses and tea parties. I also never got into camo and "boy toys" either.

When I was placed on this medication I found the tomboyish part of my personality explode and the rest of me be suppressed. It was like having a dual personality at times. Mind you, I'm married with a daughter. It was very odd finding myself acting more masculine for no real reason at all.

when I stopped the medication my personality went back to normal...after a month of withdrawal and serve mood swings. I was given this pill, Pamelore and told it would help with the inflammation. It made another person, nearly destroyed my health, my marriage, my family and left me with massive memory gaps, high eye pressures, borderline diabetes and the new found understanding of what a recovering drug addict it.


These meds are given to people for the most mundane reasons. You wanna know what people are acting they way they are? These medications are not only pumped into our water but also through our doctors into us.

People are too far drugged to help themselves.

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Thank you Avalonians for your thoughts on the topic I raised. Discussion of, and explanations for your individual perspectives gives the rest of us something to ponder. What is required by everybody is the wisdom to be able to separate out from all the incoming information we have, what is feasible and what is not. Sadly, this ability to reason is not inherent in many folk. It has been allowed to become dormant and instead, many of us believe whatever it was the last person told us. This can lead to utter confusion when two or more different scenarios are pointed out.

Reasoning - the ability to take a scenario and think through the implications then make a decision on what action should be taken. The first point I would make in such a situation would be to find as many sources for the information in question. Preferably from different original sources. For example, let's take someone who publishes a 'new' version of the Bible in modern English. In this situation, find out whether they just 'modernized' the King James version, (warts and all) or did they re-translate it from the original manuscripts?

Always question where the information was obtained from and, if it's not that simple, how did the person giving the information, arrive at their conclusions? Remember, while the truth is out there somewhere, it will sometimes be so obvious that it will be overlooked - just remember chicken little and the falling sky. First off, don't take television or newspapers too seriously. As the old saying goes, good news never sold a newspaper or put a TV station at the top of the ratings.

I can personally tell of a situation I was in back in the mid 1970s - we had an Irish farm-exchange student stay with us for a couple of weeks. At this time the IRA was active in Dublin and when I found that this chap actually came from the area in question, I asked what the conflict was like to those who actually lived there. His response really woke me up to the exaggeration that was present in TV and newspaper reports. He said that apart from the individuals who were involved in the skirmishes, nobody else new about it.

The bottom line is - don't believe everything you see or hear - particularly if it's on TV or in newspapers. Do your own thinking - don't let 'them' do it for you. Get away from negative thinking as this will be your downfall. If we concentrate on the positive, most of us will come through unscathed.

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It's just a game, light up a little....

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I don't quite see it that way. As clark said the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Something is not right here.

--sjkted

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The word "game" only...raises my suspecions....

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Thanks Brinty for starting this thread and to everyone for a bunch of thoughtful responses. Once everyone learns enough about who and what they really are to move beyond fear, we won't need to have such discussions. The change needed in the world isn't "out there".

Man in the Mirror

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Have you actually registered and looked at the projects?
All i see there are creative projects, nothing to do with "fighting the bad guys".

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Then don't play along...

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I haven't looked at the specifics. I was referring more to the general direction of PA/PC.

--sjkted

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clarkkent,

How refreshing your posts are.:thumb_yello: It is so important that we break free from a beehive mentality. I agree that we need to become leaders rather than passive followers of any school of thoughts. I do my chore, question everything and trust my intuition.

Best regards,

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No worries then. :original:

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